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DerSchwarzeMann -> $$$$$$$? (4/4/2004 8:35:31 PM)
Why does this game cost so much? And if someone says that its deap and no feedback upon it, im gonna be really mad. I HAVE RECIEVED MANY RESPONSES CONSIDERING ME BEING A blank THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE EVERYONE WHO CONTRIBUTED, I DO NOT WISH TO RECIEVE ANY MORE RESPONSES. IF YOU MUST PLEASE GO AHEAD. [sm=00000436.gif][sm=00001746.gif][sm=00000947.gif][sm=00000924.gif]

Ol_Dog -> RE: $$$$$$$? (4/4/2004 8:49:03 PM)
"Tis better to be pissed off than ...

Mr.Frag -> RE: $$$$$$$? (4/4/2004 8:49:14 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DerSchwarzeMann Why does this game cost so much? And if someone says that its deap and no feedback upon it, im gonna be really pissed off. [sm=00000054.gif][sm=00000106.gif][sm=00000055.gif] That being the case, it is really cheap! [:'(]

LargeSlowTarget -> RE: $$$$$$$? (4/4/2004 9:01:28 PM)
The topic, scope and complexity of WitP will make it a niche game for hardcore wargamers. There will be no mass market for it. So they can't make a profit by selling it to many many people at a moderate price, but may do so by selling it to a few grognards who are willing to pay a higher price for this gem. Furtermore, it's not a game you will play through in a day or a week or a month. So it might be expensive in absolute terms, but it will be cheap in terms relative to how much fun you will have with it for years to come. How long will $70 bucks entertain you in a bar or disco or a fun park? Two hours, three?

pasternakski -> RE: $$$$$$$? (4/4/2004 9:28:32 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LargeSlowTarget How long will $70 bucks entertain you in a bar or disco or a fun park? Two hours, three? It's the strip clubs and brothels that really cost me. LST, you are exactly right. This game has taken thousands of hours of development and testing, and it will be lucky to sell 5,000 copies. You have to be a certain kind of wargamer, Darkman, before you want to get involved at this level. It's not gonna be a "pull out your aircraft simulator joystick and whip 'er around" experience.

Mr.Frag -> RE: $$$$$$$? (4/4/2004 10:00:46 PM)
What really cracks me up is the epic Turn #1 will actually take you guys longer to set up then most other games in the same price range even last! [:D]

Mike Scholl -> RE: $$$$$$$? (4/4/2004 10:39:53 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DerSchwarzeMann Why does this game cost so much? And if someone says that its deap and no feedback upon it, im gonna be really pissed off. [sm=00000054.gif][sm=00000106.gif][sm=00000055.gif] If you look at it from the point of view of the time and effort that the designers and developers (not to mention the testors) have had to put into it, and the amount of playability it promises to provide, IT'S CHEAP! If you want to see a "rip-off" look at your cable bill.

Admiral DadMan -> RE: $$$$$$$? (4/4/2004 11:14:30 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DerSchwarzeMann Why does this game cost so much? And if someone says that its deap and no feedback upon it, im gonna be really pissed off. [sm=00000054.gif][sm=00000106.gif][sm=00000055.gif] Ok, then be a hozer and don't buy it.

brisd -> RE: $$$$$$$? (4/4/2004 11:44:29 PM)
Hmmm. I recall paying $70 for early pc wargames such War In Russia, Pacific War, all by [&o] Gary Grigsby of 2by3 fame (designers of WITP). I am still playing those games over 10 years later, so they were worth several times that price in terms of game value. I have games that quickly left my harddrive after paying half as much. I echo the former posters comments as well. Finally, one can wait till the game is out and proven a winner before you jump. A game of this scope and learning curve will not appeal to the masses.

Nomad -> RE: $$$$$$$? (4/4/2004 11:50:23 PM)
Let's see. I've had UV since it came out. That's about 2 years or something like 700 days. At an average of 4 hours per day that is 2800 hours of play. It cost me $55.00US with shipping which comes out about 2 cents per hour so far. I think it is well worh it. WitP will probaly get to 1 cent per hour after the first PBEM game of 4 years. [:D]

pad152 -> RE: $$$$$$$? (4/5/2004 1:33:27 AM)
You can always buy two crappy games for $39.00 each or one good one for $69.99. Now you tell me which is cheaper?

RevRick -> RE: To which the congregation replies.. (4/5/2004 1:37:15 AM)
a resounding Amen. I am getting back to playing UV, and look forward to WitP with bated breath.

Rendova -> RE: To which the congregation replies.. (4/5/2004 2:05:43 AM)
We may want to knock off all this "its too cheap" talk... they'll raise the price [8\|]

bilbow -> RE: $$$$$$$? (4/5/2004 2:11:07 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Nomad Let's see. I've had UV since it came out. That's about 2 years or something like 700 days. At an average of 4 hours per day that is 2800 hours of play. It cost me $55.00US with shipping which comes out about 2 cents per hour so far. I think it is well worh it. WitP will probaly get to 1 cent per hour after the first PBEM game of 4 years. [:D] So if I've only gotten 2-3 hours a day on UV over the same 2 years, my cost is 3 or 4 cents per hour. I guess that means I haven't yet got my money's worth! [:D] Get real. $70 is as great a bargain as we'll ever see.

Admiral DadMan -> RE: $$$$$$$? (4/5/2004 3:50:39 AM)
AND WE HAD THIS DISCUSSION ALREADY[sm=00000946.gif]

Mike Scholl -> RE: $$$$$$$? (4/5/2004 4:20:52 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Admiral DadMan AND WE HAD THIS DISCUSSION ALREADY[sm=00000946.gif] Of course we have..., and we'll continue to have it everytime some cheapskate whines about the price.

Mr.Frag -> RE: $$$$$$$? (4/5/2004 4:28:36 AM)
quote: Of course we have..., and we'll continue to have it everytime some cheapskate whines about the price. I have told Matrix to raise the price for having to put up with you guys! [sm=Christo_pull_hair.gif] [sm=00000613.gif] <snicker> [sm=00000613.gif]

CMDRMCTOAST -> RE: $$$$$$$? (4/5/2004 5:41:32 AM)
I agree with everybody but the cheapskate............[sm=00000436.gif]

Rainerle -> RE: $$$$$$$? (4/5/2004 11:46:42 AM)
I don't mind the price of the game itself but hopefully there will be an affordable way to get the game in the old europe (giving the money to Matrix is one thing, throwing it after FedEx, UPS or whatever is a different story).

Marc von Martial -> RE: $$$$$$$? (4/5/2004 3:56:38 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Rainerle I don't mind the price of the game itself but hopefully there will be an affordable way to get the game in the old europe (giving the money to Matrix is one thing, throwing it after FedEx, UPS or whatever is a different story). Since a few weeks you�re able to order directly from our E-Store, but have the product shipped from a european warehouse. You will now simply end up with what a parcel costs to be shipped wihtin the EU [;)]. something around 4.90 EUR. You people should read the general forums too once in a while [:'(] Gru� ins M�nsterland.

tsimmonds -> RE: $$$$$$$? (4/5/2004 6:00:49 PM)
quote: You people should read the general forums too once in a while Too much flaming going on in there.....[;)]

Marc von Martial -> RE: $$$$$$$? (4/5/2004 7:02:54 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: irrelevant quote: You people should read the general forums too once in a while Too much flaming going on in there.....[;)] You probably mix the "general forum" up with the "AOW" forum.

foliveti -> RE: $$$$$$$? (4/5/2004 8:06:34 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Rainerle I don't mind the price of the game itself but hopefully there will be an affordable way to get the game in the old europe (giving the money to Matrix is one thing, throwing it after FedEx, UPS or whatever is a different story). Given the tumble the dollar has taken against the Euro, it will probably be cheaper for you to buy it in the US and pay shipping.

DerSchwarzeMann -> RE: $$$$$$$? (4/5/2004 11:00:53 PM)
So far you r the best person out of everyone here to have presented logical reasoning to their answer[&o][&o]

DerSchwarzeMann -> RE: $$$$$$$? (4/5/2004 11:01:28 PM)
then leave

DerSchwarzeMann -> CMDR......... (4/5/2004 11:06:01 PM)
Who the hell do you think you r? Im trying to form a discussion here, and you come in out of no where and call me a cheapskate? How about trying a little harder and give me an explanation on why this game is so expensive, everyone else here gave me a reasonable answer , so who is the cheapskate here?[X(][:-]

DerSchwarzeMann -> RE: $$$$$$$? (4/5/2004 11:12:06 PM)
RIGHT ON! In Europe every games price goes down by three times. And if not you could always get a fake and get the crack for it. [:'(]

VicKevlar -> RE: $$$$$$$? (4/5/2004 11:35:58 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DerSchwarzeMann then leave Actually...your first post could be considered a troll....that's against Matrix Forum Policy....so is the above response.

VicKevlar -> RE: $$$$$$$? (4/5/2004 11:36:45 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: DerSchwarzeMann RIGHT ON! In Europe every games price goes down by three times. And if not you could always get a fake and get the crack for it. [:'(] Another comments like that (regarding piracy) and you will be going on permanent vacation. You are now warned.

MemoryLeak -> Special response just for DerSchwarzeMann (4/6/2004 1:39:39 AM)
There are too many a$$holes in the world now and this guy is taking up three spaces.

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