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Xargun -> Laying Mines (7/6/2004 7:11:51 PM)

I have several ML in a Mine Warfare TF at a friendly base with retirement on (as per manual) but they do not seem to be laying any mines ? What am I doing wrong ?

Xargun




PeteG662 -> RE: Laying Mines (7/6/2004 7:12:53 PM)

I have the same problem.....right now with the Dutch minelayers.....




Xargun -> RE: Laying Mines (7/6/2004 7:17:30 PM)

I wonder if the Mine Warfare TF has to be CREATED at a size 9 port (or with MLE) to make it work...

Xargun




PeteG662 -> RE: Laying Mines (7/6/2004 7:18:56 PM)

It shouldn't....I thought that was only for reloading the mines! The mines are already aboard so it should work......




Xargun -> RE: Laying Mines (7/6/2004 7:20:49 PM)

Same thoughts here... Have to wait for a beta or someone else to answer this one..

Xargun




pompack -> RE: Laying Mines (7/6/2004 7:27:45 PM)

I created three Mine TFs from the Dutch MLs and mined Palembang, Balikpapan, and Kuching. Then I sent all of them to Sidney to wait for a better day. No problems.

I also set up Oglala at PH and have shuttled her to Midway, Johnston and Palmyra returning to PH each time to reload. Again no problems.




Gyrene -> RE: Laying Mines (7/6/2004 7:29:38 PM)

Hi, make sure you're assigning the Mine Laying TF a destination hex. I've used ML's quite a bit already and they've been laying plenty of mines for my good friends to play with!




Drongo -> RE: Laying Mines (7/6/2004 7:29:56 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Xargun

I have several ML in a Mine Warfare TF at a friendly base with retirement on (as per manual) but they do not seem to be laying any mines ? What am I doing wrong ?

Xargun


What's the TF's destination hex and what is it's home base port?




Xargun -> RE: Laying Mines (7/6/2004 8:19:07 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Drongo

What's the TF's destination hex and what is it's home base port?


I'd rather not say as its in a PBEM, but they are the same... Could this be the problem ?

Xargun




Drongo -> RE: Laying Mines (7/6/2004 8:38:20 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Xargun

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ORIGINAL: Drongo

What's the TF's destination hex and what is it's home base port?


I'd rather not say as its in a PBEM, but they are the same... Could this be the problem ?

Xargun


Probably.

Since I normally send TFs from one base to mine another, I can't say whether you should be able to mine the same hex that you both start in and also have as your home base.

However, if you want to be sure of laying the minefield, set the TFs home base to a different nearby "friendly" port and the TF will lay the minefield in its destination hex (where it starts) and then retire toward its new home base.

You'll obviously need to then bring it back if you want to keep it at the original port but at least it'll have laid the mines.

Cheers




ZOOMIE1980 -> RE: Laying Mines (7/6/2004 8:42:15 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Xargun

I have several ML in a Mine Warfare TF at a friendly base with retirement on (as per manual) but they do not seem to be laying any mines ? What am I doing wrong ?

Xargun


I have mixed results. Sometimes they lay mines, other times they don't. Same in UV. Never did completely figure it all out....




Xargun -> RE: Laying Mines (7/6/2004 8:43:29 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Drongo

Probably.

Since I normally send TFs from one base to mine another, I can't say whether you should be able to mine the same hex that you both start in and also have as your home base.

However, if you want to be sure of laying the minefield, set the TFs home base to a different nearby "friendly" port and the TF will lay the minefield in its destination hex (where it starts) and then retire toward its new home base.

You'll obviously need to then bring it back if you want to keep it at the original port but at least it'll have laid the mines.

Cheers


I'll try it out and let you know.. Thanks for the ideas..

Xargun




byron13 -> RE: Laying Mines (7/6/2004 8:44:42 PM)

Is it possible that they're mining and you just don't know it? The only symbol is that little dot in the upper left corner of the hex. Unless the minefield is in a base hex, I haven't figured out a way to see how many mines are in the field.

I've not had problems with mining - other than the extreme drive down to Sydney for refills. Wouldn't be so bad except the Dutch seem to have 10 gallon fuel tanks.




Xargun -> RE: Laying Mines (7/6/2004 8:45:43 PM)

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ORIGINAL: byron13

Is it possible that they're mining and you just don't know it? The only symbol is that little dot in the upper left corner of the hex. Unless the minefield is in a base hex, I haven't figured out a way to see how many mines are in the field.

I've not had problems with mining - other than the extreme drive down to Sydney for refills. Wouldn't be so bad except the Dutch seem to have 10 gallon fuel tanks.


Its at a base hex and I keep checking each turn to see if there are any mines and there are not.

Xargun




PeteG662 -> RE: Laying Mines (7/6/2004 8:47:11 PM)

Same here but I am not optimistic about this as it hasn't worked in multiple iterations yet. I have sent the MLs to other locations from their base (where they had mines on board already) and they have yet to drop a mine in the water despite reaching their destination! I will try it all sorts of ways and see what happens and post back here if by some miracle the mines start floating!




Mr.Frag -> RE: Laying Mines (7/6/2004 8:49:00 PM)

Form Mine Warfare TF.

Place ML in it.

Give it a destination that is not where it is.

Make sure it is set to Retire.

Poof, mines laid.




Xargun -> RE: Laying Mines (7/6/2004 8:51:05 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Mr.Frag

Form Mine Warfare TF.

Place ML in it.

Give it a destination that is not where it is.

Make sure it is set to Retire.

Poof, mines laid.


So I can send it out a hex.. and then next turn send it back to its starting base and it will mine it ?

Xargun




PeteG662 -> RE: Laying Mines (7/6/2004 8:51:43 PM)

Or so it is supposed to go! LOL Will keep trying it.




Mr.Frag -> RE: Laying Mines (7/6/2004 8:54:26 PM)

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So I can send it out a hex.. and then next turn send it back to its starting base and it will mine it ?


Yep, just make sure it's Do not Retire on the way or it will dump it's mines there instead [;)]




Xargun -> RE: Laying Mines (7/6/2004 8:55:14 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Mr.Frag

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So I can send it out a hex.. and then next turn send it back to its starting base and it will mine it ?


Yep, just make sure it's Do not Retire on the way or it will dump it's mines there instead [;)]



OK... BTW, does it dump all of its mines in one sweep ?

Xargun




Mr.Frag -> RE: Laying Mines (7/6/2004 9:03:04 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Xargun

quote:

ORIGINAL: Mr.Frag

quote:

So I can send it out a hex.. and then next turn send it back to its starting base and it will mine it ?


Yep, just make sure it's Do not Retire on the way or it will dump it's mines there instead [;)]



OK... BTW, does it dump all of its mines in one sweep ?

Xargun


Yes




Charles2222 -> RE: Laying Mines (7/6/2004 10:35:53 PM)

nevermind




byron13 -> RE: Laying Mines (7/7/2004 1:31:04 AM)

I've already seen the Japanese hit mines at both Rabaul and in Hong Kong (a minesweeper hit one in Hong Kong - HAR!). Any idea what kind of density you would need to maintain before you actually stand a legitimate chance of having something hit? My math was so far off on supply ("Oh, sure. You'll have convoys of 700,000 supply all the time") that I'm afraid I off the mark by a factor of 10 or 100.

You know, I've got another question. I lost a DD to unknown causes, which I'm guessing might have been a mine (or sub). So this made me wonder about submarine mining around PH. How would I know if there are any just waiting for the lovely Lady Lex? I assume that the hex won't show a mine symbol until the field is discovered. Can it be found by, say, recon or ASW search? Or does one only find it when a ship goes Kablooey? If you send a minesweeper out on do not retire for a series of hexes, will it spot minefields?




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