Oznoyng -> RE: 3rd NZ and 2nd Marine Divisions? WAY too early? (7/12/2004 8:08:13 PM)
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ORIGINAL: Kid We have decided to attach the US 2nd Marine Division to SOPAC and damage a lot of the elements. One again, with the Game out less then 2 weeks the US player gets screwed by the OOB Fanatics.[8|] The 2nd. Marines are the only unit you get that is deployable early to the SOPAC to counter an early Japanese Dec.-Jan " Rush" with the Elite SBF`s to Noumea ( which starts witha large Airfield ) and worse, Suva. they get there, dig in to level 8 Forts, and put the Naval Betty`s and Nells, with Zero Fighter support in to cut your supply lines to Oz and good luck reinforcing Australia or even winning the Game. It`s Island Hopping Japanese style, they forget about Buna and the Shortlands until later. At least make it a Brigade or a strong, high rated Rgt, there is plenty of evidence above that it was that and was designed as a " Fire Brigade " to counter the Japanese Strategy I outlined above. I mean you ( Matrix ) have gone to the extreme to make the Pearl Army Divisions restricted to the Centeral Pacific, and the Oz and NZ and rest of the West Coast LCU`s are locked up as well. It`s really F****** amazing [X(] , as soon as a few Non Tester type guys who have clearly never even finished the Campaign, start complaning on the Forums about OB stuff like this, and the US ASW routines, you guys want to rush to change the original Grigsby design because these people are too dumb or lazy to use the editor to make the Game the way They Want It. What`s up with that Kid, really ?????? I am a relatively disinterested observer here, since I had no initial opinion either way. In UV, I played USN for the most part, so I can hardly be considered a Jap fanboy. However, from my reading of the thread, 2MD comes into the game too early and with too much capability compared to historical fact. Jap fanboys or not, requesting that the OOB adhere to historical fact as much as possible is reasonable. Matrix agreeing and fixing the OOB is not a capitulation to any "fanboys". As the US, the first six months of the war were grim. Suggesting that it makes life tough on the US not to have that unit early on strikes me as "allied fanboy propaganda" when facts support a reduced capability. As for the ASW side of the game, Allied ASW seems too effective to me too. Reading of the boards and surfing the web for info on Jap sub ops, the accuracy of the USN ASW seems excessive. On the other hand, Jap subs are used differently in WitP than they were historically. Some of the losses can be attributed to that, but the numbers seem to be inflated anyway.
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