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MadDawg -> Transfering air units off Damaged carrier - Bug? (8/6/2004 8:13:09 AM)

Hi Folks,

I am seeing a bit of an odd situation here I thought Id see if anyone could explain. I have a light carrier (CVL Ryujo) that has ended up with the following aircraft on it after its carrier group was in a battle...

12 x AM63 Zero
11 x BN5 Kate
13 x BN5 Kate
11 x D3A Vals
12 x BN5 Kate
11 x D3A Vals

Currently it has 73 systems damage, 39 floatation damaged and 9 fires going, yet it can still transfer planes to land bases from 100 miles out ot sea? Whenever I select a group to transfer to base, they all have the -r next to their name (which I thought meant railroad?) and I can still transfer them.

Sounds like a bug from what i know about the game...any ideas though? This is with 1.21 and the game was started in 1.21.

Dawg




Tankerace -> RE: Transfering air units off Damaged carrier - Bug? (8/6/2004 8:32:12 AM)

wow....I didn't know you could stick that many a/c on a baby flattop.




MadDawg -> RE: Transfering air units off Damaged carrier - Bug? (8/6/2004 8:59:39 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Tankerace

wow....I didn't know you could stick that many a/c on a baby flattop.



I kinda thought that too but I thought we'd tackle one problem at a time. [;)] I think they can hold 150% as transport, but could they actually land that many?

Dawg




Xargun -> RE: Transfering air units off Damaged carrier - Bug? (8/6/2004 10:46:02 AM)

CVEs can carry up to 200% capacity I believe but not CVLs... Maybe 150% is the max they can hold, but nothing can fly off it.. As for the -r next to the bases you can transfer CV air groups to that is a bug and is known - was in v1.00 as well... As to HOW you are allowed to transfer ANY aircraft off that CVL with that load I have no idea... Now if you docked the ship I can fully understand, but actually flying them off ? You shouldn't be able to.

Xargun




Apollo11 -> RE: Transfering air units off Damaged carrier - Bug? (8/6/2004 2:07:11 PM)

Hi all,

quote:

ORIGINAL: MadDawg

Hi Folks,

I am seeing a bit of an odd situation here I thought Id see if anyone could explain. I have a light carrier (CVL Ryujo) that has ended up with the following aircraft on it after its carrier group was in a battle...

12 x AM63 Zero
11 x BN5 Kate
13 x BN5 Kate
11 x D3A Vals
12 x BN5 Kate
11 x D3A Vals

Currently it has 73 systems damage, 39 floatation damaged and 9 fires going, yet it can still transfer planes to land bases from 100 miles out ot sea? Whenever I select a group to transfer to base, they all have the -r next to their name (which I thought meant railroad?) and I can still transfer them.

Sounds like a bug from what i know about the game...any ideas though? This is with 1.21 and the game was started in 1.21.

Dawg


I am 100% sure that I already read similar report here when WitP was first released...

Matrix/2By3 (and WItP BETA testers) is this on bug list?


Leo "Apolo11"




DJAndrews -> RE: Transfering air units off Damaged carrier - Bug? (8/6/2004 2:42:06 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Apollo11


I am 100% sure that I already read similar report here when WitP was first released...

Matrix/2By3 (and WItP BETA testers) is this on bug list?


Leo "Apolo11"


I posted this problem back on July 6 in a thread entitled "Aircraft Transfer from Damged CVs" (sorry I don't know how to link). The problem has a number of variations. I presume it is on "The List" but have received no response or acknowledgement.




Arkady -> RE: Transfering air units off Damaged carrier - Bug? (8/6/2004 2:55:59 PM)

-r after unit name is designation that aircrafts are crated (total number of aircrafts is much more over carrier capacity) and they cannot take-off

and with combined SYS and FLT damage over 50 they cannot fly at all, you can transfer them only in port with airfield size at least 1

But all this aircraft shouldn't ended here because manual states in chapter 7.2.2.16 that: planes won't make an emergency landings on another carrier in such a way as to cause it to exceed 110% of the carrier's aircraft capacity. BUG ?

Arkady




MadDawg -> RE: Transfering air units off Damaged carrier - Bug? (8/6/2004 11:57:36 PM)

In that case bump son one of the testers can let us know [;)]




MadDawg -> RE: Transfering air units off Damaged carrier - Bug? (8/7/2004 9:05:47 AM)

Gonna bump this one again as it looks like there may be a couple of bugs here and it would be nice to know if they are on the fix list.

Dawg




SunDevil_MatrixForum -> RE: Transfering air units off Damaged carrier - Bug? (8/7/2004 10:58:17 AM)

Have you posted this in the support section?




MadDawg -> RE: Transfering air units off Damaged carrier - Bug? (8/7/2004 12:00:17 PM)

No not yet cuase Im not 100% sure this is a bug here or not...maybe something is happening which Im not aware of? I was hoping one of the developers or testers could confirm that this is indeed another bug and weather it is on the fix list or otherwise.

Dawg




Xargun -> RE: Transfering air units off Damaged carrier - Bug? (8/7/2004 12:16:09 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: MadDawg

No not yet cuase Im not 100% sure this is a bug here or not...maybe something is happening which Im not aware of? I was hoping one of the developers or testers could confirm that this is indeed another bug and weather it is on the fix list or otherwise.

Dawg


Not a beta but I remember the post earlier about the -r when transfering planes off a CV (sometimes). Not sure if it was fixed in the patch or not.. So it may be still on the list...

As for the CVL holding that many planes, I have no idea...

Xargun




MadDawg -> RE: Transfering air units off Damaged carrier - Bug? (8/7/2004 1:16:43 PM)

Thanks for the feedback Xargun [:)]. Im guessing this one may be an old bug as I seem to recall it being mentioned once before too, but hopefully that can be confirmed.

Dawg




MadDawg -> RE: Transfering air units off Damaged carrier - Bug? (8/8/2004 12:36:39 AM)

Guys is this on the fix list or is it not a bug? I did pay $80 for this product which has had its fair share of bugs and I did take the time to write this up to help out the developers iron this program out, so some sort of reponse would surely be nice. [:(]

Dawg




Mr.Frag -> RE: Transfering air units off Damaged carrier - Bug? (8/8/2004 1:35:39 AM)

quote:

12 x AM63 Zero
11 x BN5 Kate
13 x BN5 Kate
11 x D3A Vals
12 x BN5 Kate
11 x D3A Vals


I don't see it on the list, but Kid owns the list.

That looks pretty suspect to me, CV's only hold 5 airgroups maximum, you are showing 6 there. Did you provide a save to anyone?




MadDawg -> RE: Transfering air units off Damaged carrier - Bug? (8/8/2004 1:51:59 AM)

Thanks Frag, the developers sure owe you a a favour or two for your time here!

No, I wasnt sure who to send it too. I still have it stored if anyone would like it though (its a PBEM). Hopefully it might help them track it down.

Dawg




Mr.Frag -> RE: Transfering air units off Damaged carrier - Bug? (8/8/2004 2:21:19 AM)

You have the turn before your CV's got spanked as well?

(I assume thats what happened and these are groups that landed there because there was nowhere else)




MadDawg -> RE: Transfering air units off Damaged carrier - Bug? (8/8/2004 4:06:59 AM)

Yep, there was a bit of mutual spanking going on [:)] Id have to do some searching but they should all be in my email.




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