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admiral56 -> BAd landing (9/4/2004 5:02:27 PM)

Big transport TF unloading at Mersing, see horrible results!!!! (all in same day... and night)

What gives, Mersing doesnt even have a CD unit????

Is the fire coming from Singapore 60 miles away???

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/08/41

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Coastal Guns at Mersing, 23,49, firing at TF 8
TF 8 troops unloading over beach at Mersing, 23,49


526 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
AP Amakusa Maru

Japanese ground losses:
4362 casualties reported
Guns lost 6
Vehicles lost 1

Coastal Guns at Mersing, 23,49, firing at TF 8
TF 8 troops unloading over beach at Mersing, 23,49


285 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
AP Kashi Maru, Shell hits 7, on fire
AP Hakutetsu Maru #13, Shell hits 2
AP Miike Maru, Shell hits 1

Japanese ground losses:
2891 casualties reported
Guns lost 1



moses -> RE: BAd landing (9/4/2004 6:26:35 PM)

Pg 99 of manual states "...shot at by Coast guns, artillery and other light weapons such as mortars and AA guns. .... in addition to shots at the ships, troops are shot at seperatly by all enemy weapons."

I'm guessing that you sent the transports in without any fire support. As in real life this is likely to produce a slaughter.



2ndACR -> RE: BAd landing (9/4/2004 10:53:22 PM)

Mersing has an evil Aussie brigade there. One of the best units in Malaya. If you are going to hit Mersing, send a BB equipped bombardment group there too.



Mr.Frag -> RE: BAd landing (9/4/2004 11:03:00 PM)

Just thought I'd mention the obvious since you would look to be a newcomer.

Any landings must be supported by combat ships to suppress the defender fire. Plan on at least 5 ships included with your transport ships to play this critical roll.

The manual doesn't really tell you how critical this is. A couple of ships can make the difference between 500 and 10000 losses.

The number shown is not real, it just gives you an indication of how well suppressed then defenders were. If you see a 4 digit number *ever*, you basically walked into a firing squad with blindfolds on.

Proper suppression will reduce that number into the low hundreds.



admiral56 -> RE: BAd landing (9/5/2004 12:58:28 AM)

Would PC's, PG's and MSW's be enough, or do I need DD's, CL's and CA's ???

I would have thought that airpower would suppress defendes enough.



Mr.Frag -> RE: BAd landing (9/5/2004 1:26:00 AM)

quote:

Would PC's, PG's and MSW's be enough, or do I need DD's, CL's and CA's ???


Depends what you are up against, but any ship with guns helps out. Try it out, experiment. One of the great things about computers is they don't mind if you do it again and again till you get it right [;)]



Mr.Frag -> RE: BAd landing (9/5/2004 1:29:02 AM)

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I would have thought that airpower would suppress defendes enough.


Air power will reduce the defenders, it will not alter the outcome of a landing unless you are talking weeks of constant abuse. Air power is far more effective at preventing the ships from making it to the beaches then stopping the grunts from coming out of their fox holes after the aircraft leave and shooting at you. Very tough (even with today's weapons) to suppress grunts.



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