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vulkansanex -> Sniper Renault?? Mystery tank? (9/12/2004 9:51:33 PM)

Lets see if I am capable of posting a picture here..

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See if anyone knows anything about this? Called an ARL44.

Looks like a Renault D2 body um.. with a Patton turret...??

Post war French - U.S. lovechild??

Anybody know? Just have the image in a WWII book - but no description..

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Belisarius -> RE: Sniper Renault?? Mystery tank? (9/13/2004 1:42:14 AM)

Ah, ARL-44. That's a Char B1 chassis (with plate skirts) and a Schneider turret w/ 90mm gun. It was an "undercover" project started by the French during the German occupation, and got started for real with the liberation. First one ready in 1946, I only think they were used once in a parade in the early 50's though. Not many built.



Major Destruction -> RE: Sniper Renault?? Mystery tank? (9/13/2004 2:21:18 AM)

The tank is modelled in the game. Here is a picture of that parade, perhaps......

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for more information, go here http://www.chars-francais.net/archives/arl44.htm



stevemk1a -> RE: Sniper Renault?? Mystery tank? (9/13/2004 3:56:38 AM)

Is it in the French OOB's or some other?



Maciste -> RE: Sniper Renault?? Mystery tank? (9/13/2004 8:18:32 PM)

Yes, it was the first tank developed for the Post-WWII France, though the design was from the 1940, only about 50-55 tanks were ever built for it was cheaper to buy massproduced m47 Pattons to USA than to massproduce the ARL-44.



Riun T -> RE: Sniper Renault?? Mystery tank? (9/13/2004 10:25:40 PM)

The turret looks solid but what was the side body armor thickness?



Belisarius -> RE: Sniper Renault?? Mystery tank? (9/14/2004 11:45:26 PM)

Incredibly tough to find resources on, unless you happen to sit with a "French post WWII armor" encyclopedia...

The Char B1-bis had 60mm of side armor, and a WAG on my part would be that the ARL 44 in any case didn't have less...



Voriax -> RE: Sniper Renault?? Mystery tank? (9/15/2004 6:05:42 PM)

This page has some armour values..unfortunately it is in Czech..so perhaps one of our Czech members could translate or try to find a web translator.

http://www.mainbattletanks.czweb.org/Tanky/arl44.htm

Voriax



Major Destruction -> RE: Sniper Renault?? Mystery tank? (9/16/2004 2:18:56 AM)

Guessing only, because this is the only value with vertical armour and therefore represents the side armour,
the value of thickness is 45mm
- Boky typ/tlouka (mm)/hel () .......... ocel/45/0



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