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madmickey -> Bosox (10/21/2004 7:00:41 AM)

Unbelievable



Behemoth -> RE: Bosox (10/21/2004 7:04:43 AM)

this is our Year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Good Game Yankees you know deep down we love ya most of all



Behemoth -> RE: Bosox (10/21/2004 7:05:40 AM)

We = The Soxs



crusher -> RE: Bosox (10/21/2004 7:21:33 AM)

wow who cares



Platoonist -> RE: Bosox (10/21/2004 7:31:59 AM)

WTG BoSox! The drama of this series makes the upcoming World Series seem anti-climatic.



Ron Saueracker -> RE: Bosox (10/21/2004 8:37:48 AM)

What drama? When all the big city teams do is outbid the smaller cities on the greedy little buggers, where is the drama? It's as bad a Nascar, where every competitor is stuck in identical rides, regardless of manufacturer. Yawn...[>:]



ZOOMIE1980 -> RE: Bosox (10/21/2004 8:51:30 AM)

Twins knocking off the Evil Empire and then Evil Empire II would have a bigger story. I honestly don't know which franchise I despise most, Yankees or Red Sox???



Ron Saueracker -> RE: Bosox (10/21/2004 9:11:03 AM)

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ORIGINAL: ZOOMIE1980

Twins knocking off the Evil Empire and then Evil Empire II would have a bigger story. I honestly don't know which franchise I despise most, Yankees or Red Sox???


I despise any sports league which fails to recognize the new fiscal realities of today's corporate advertising influenced sporting industry. Salary caps and revenue sharing are a must if major league sports are to survive in anything but name in the future.

Why not save everybody alot of time and effort and simply have all the franchise owners go to an auction where the only thing up for grabs is the pennant, cup, whatever, and bid on it until the richest owner is the guy with the prize?[8|]



Nikademus -> RE: Bosox (10/21/2004 4:57:04 PM)

baseball.....oh so THATS what that huge monstrosity they built south of Seattle is for......

[:'(]



Oliver Heindorf -> RE: Bosox (10/21/2004 5:14:56 PM)

it is unbeliveable...they call Baseball 'sport' [8|] LOL is all I have for it.

yesterday, Werder Bremen won and the day before, Leverkusen beated AS Rom 3:1 THIS is real sport :

http://www.uefa.com/competitions/ucl/

but grats to boston, its always great to see the big teams loose, regardless which game you like.



RevRick -> RE: Bosox (10/21/2004 5:34:11 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Oliver Heindorf

it is unbeliveable...they call Baseball 'sport' [8|] LOL is all I have for it.

yesterday, Werder Bremen won and the day before, Leverkusen beated AS Rom 3:1 THIS is real sport :

http://www.uefa.com/competitions/ucl/

but grats to boston, its always great to see the big teams loose, regardless which game you like.


I don't know. Have you ever been hit in the back by a curve ball that didn't break? Then again, trying to hit a roughly 3 cm spheroid coming toward you at a velocity of anywhere from 90-125 KPH with what amounts to a club with any consistency is not the easiest thing in the world. I played catcher for several years (and as a result am called "NO Knees" by my old team mates) and it's a very interesting sport - when it is played as a sport instead of a business. Personally I think they ought to have revenue sharing amongst the teams, and a salary cap on players. No one in the universe deserves to be paid $25,000,000.00 per annum to play a game.

The ability of Steinbrenner to collect players like some other rich people collect cars is what is leading me to not have any interest in watching the game on TV. And since I am far too old, and too injured, to play the game other than to once in a while play catch with a kid, I have no interest in the World Series. At least in football, they have tried to level the playing field and give each team a chance to compete for the championship, depending on players desire, coaching, and the team leadership, and not just the pocketbook.



madmickey -> RE: Bosox (10/21/2004 5:53:53 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Oliver Heindorf

it is unbeliveable...they call Baseball 'sport' [8|] LOL is all I have for it.

yesterday, Werder Bremen won and the day before, Leverkusen beated AS Rom 3:1 THIS is real sport :

http://www.uefa.com/competitions/ucl/

but grats to boston, its always great to see the big teams loose, regardless which game you like.

First Rugby is a much better European game.
Yeah a real team sport where they decide games by penalty kicks where it is 80% likely of scoring.
(In hockey penalty shots have less than 25% chances scoring).
Your hands are made for coordinated actions your legs are meant for running.
A game where people roll around in the grass if someone touches them hoping to get a penalty kick.
Where they may be 2 scoring chances in a 90 minute game.
Where they is large scale selling of players contract.
Where riots have frequently occurred.
Where wars have broken out.
Where a player was murdered for making a mistake,
This is why people call Non-North American Football a gentleman game play by hooligan and Rugby a hooligan game played by gentleman.



madmickey -> RE: Bosox (10/21/2004 6:00:33 PM)

Adding to Revrick comments off speed pitches go 120kph (75mph) Kph fast ball 155kph (97mph) plus a good pitches is able to put movement even on a fastball. A curve will drop 2 feet just before the plate.



tsimmonds -> RE: Bosox (10/21/2004 6:01:24 PM)

Now, now; no politics![;)]



Oliver Heindorf -> RE: Bosox (10/21/2004 6:11:51 PM)

RevRick, maybe I didnt express myself good enough ( language barrier ) If I look at the players after a game...they hardly sweat at all most in the time...only a little action, short runnings and next break....I mean, where is the constant action...I can feel the thrill of this game but it isnt imho this exhausting like european football or basketball etc. thats why I always joke about MLB....good payed players and they just stand on a green field catching a few balls and run a little bit around ;-) I do see the money problem as well...it is the same with FC Chelsea in the UK....luckily, money cant bring you a good team ! Chelsea, Yankees, Dortmund are the evidence of this



madmickey -> RE: Bosox (10/21/2004 6:18:32 PM)

Oliver by your definition of sweating, Biking is the greatest sport in the world. It even has passing on the course and drama unlike formula 1. How much hand-eye coordination these guys/gals have is questionable but they are probably the toughest athletes as well.



mdiehl -> RE: Bosox (10/21/2004 6:34:07 PM)

Well, well. Sour grapes from the peanut gallery, sour beer from the Canucks, and sour kraut from Europe.

Anyone who thinks baseball is not challenging or that baseball players don't, on the whole, have to work hard to stay in condition or to be good at what they do, has obviously never played it at any level and just as obviously knows nothing about it.

Hey Madmickey, Behemoth, enjoy it while it lasts. I was a Sox follower up through 1986. Haven't had the willingness to follow them since '86. I want them to win but expect nothing. That said....

When, in a few weeks, the inevitable National League champs walk victorious from the field as the World Series Champs, having defeated the Red Sox this year, the bitterness will be greatly buffered by two facts. 1. The Red Sox are the first team ever to go from 0-3 to 4-3 in a 7 game postseason series, and, even better, 2. The Yankees are the first team ever to go suck eggs after being ahead 3 games to zero in a 7 game postseason series.

So maybe it's safe after all to say in print or out loud for the first time in 18 years....

"Go Red Sox!!!!"

P.S. If the Sox win this year, maybe there's hope for the Cubs. I know several Cubs fans who are celebrating the Red Sox amazing triumph.

P.P.S. Pay no attention to the Euroethnicnationalists. They're just bitter because no one in the US thinks "soccer" is a sport that men play.



madmickey -> RE: Bosox (10/21/2004 6:48:10 PM)

Mdiehl I am a Pro-American Canadian, there may be 5 of us in the world and it must be remembered that in early 80s The Expos had one of the highest salaries in baseball and in the early 90s The Blue Jay had one of the highest salaries. They even got the Rocket away from Boston. Also after the game 3 shillacking who gave the Red Sox a chance.



Skyros -> RE: Bosox (10/21/2004 7:14:33 PM)

Awesome!

Now we need to finish the job! hmmmm who would be better St. Louis who beat us in 48 and 67 or Roger Clemens hmmmmm.[:D]



byron13 -> RE: Bosox (10/21/2004 8:51:47 PM)

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ORIGINAL: mdiehl

The Yankees are the first team ever to go suck eggs after being ahead 3 games to zero in a 7 game postseason series.



This is far and away the best part of the series. I'll bet Steinbrenner almost had a stroke - the jerk.

Hey, Sox fans, you better hope you don't win the Series. If you do, you'll have nothing to bitch about, nothing to make conversation about in the pubs, and the Sox will just be another baseball team that won the Series (and came back from three games down to beat the Evil Empire. HA!). Right now, the Sox and Cubs have kind of a mystique because of their hard luck or curses.



madmickey -> RE: Bosox (10/21/2004 9:03:28 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Skyros

Awesome!

Now we need to finish the job! hmmmm who would be better St. Louis who beat us in 48 and 67 or Roger Clemens hmmmmm.[:D]

I remember when the Rocket played his first game for Toronto against Boston, he struck out 16 and glared at the Boston GM after each strike out. Roger had a bunch of police protecting him because the Boston fan were so mad at him (unlike in Europe real riot do not occur), by the end of the game about 1/3 of the fans were cheering for him.



mdiehl -> RE: Bosox (10/21/2004 9:04:58 PM)

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Hey, Sox fans, you better hope you don't win the Series. If you do, you'll have nothing to bitch about, nothing to make conversation about in the pubs,


Speaking for every blueblood from Hartford to Bangor to Montpelier I say...

If that's the price for winning the World Series, we'll take it. We can live with not having to say "wait 'til next year" again for a long, long time. One World Series that ends with the Red Sox crowned world champions in my lifetime would suffice.



Skyros -> RE: Bosox (10/21/2004 9:09:28 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: mdiehl

quote:

Hey, Sox fans, you better hope you don't win the Series. If you do, you'll have nothing to bitch about, nothing to make conversation about in the pubs,


Speaking for every blueblood from Hartford to Bangor to Montpelier I say...

If that's the price for winning the World Series, we'll take it. We can live with not having to say "wait 'til next year" again for a long, long time. One World Series that ends with the Red Sox crowned world champions in my lifetime would suffice.

GO SOX GO



mdiehl -> tempting fate (10/21/2004 9:39:26 PM)

I can forgive the soccer fans, non-Americans who don't follow baseball, and just about everyone who likes baseball but does not understand why this is a big deal. But it is beyond my capacity to express it right now. It has come to my attention however that a ballad has already been written. Here is the link at which you can read the lyrics and download the song:

http://www.thecurseisgone.com/



madmickey -> RE: tempting fate (10/21/2004 9:55:34 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: mdiehl

I can forgive the soccer fans, non-Americans who don't follow baseball, and just about everyone who likes baseball but does not understand why this is a big deal. But it is beyond my capacity to express it right now. It has come to my attention however that a ballad has already been written. Here is the link at which you can read the lyrics and download the song:

http://www.thecurseisgone.com/

As a Canadian, Hockey has to come number 1 and #2 would be American Football (no I do not watch the semi-pro CFL anymore) but for pure drama (you do not need people running around with little chance of scoring to create drama) nothing matches baseball. There have been so many great 7 game series and after game 3 how many (non-New Englander) gave Boston a chance but comeback are more frequent in baseball than in any other sport.



Skyros -> RE: tempting fate (10/21/2004 11:02:41 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: madmickey

quote:

ORIGINAL: mdiehl

I can forgive the soccer fans, non-Americans who don't follow baseball, and just about everyone who likes baseball but does not understand why this is a big deal. But it is beyond my capacity to express it right now. It has come to my attention however that a ballad has already been written. Here is the link at which you can read the lyrics and download the song:

http://www.thecurseisgone.com/

As a Canadian, Hockey has to come number 1 and #2 would be American Football (no I do not watch the semi-pro CFL anymore) but for pure drama (you do not need people running around with little chance of scoring to create drama) nothing matches baseball. There have been so many great 7 game series and after game 3 how many (non-New Englander) gave Boston a chance but comeback are more frequent in baseball than in any other sport.


Old Time Hockey? Eddie Shore!



Central Blue -> some of us are following the "NIT" (10/21/2004 11:04:28 PM)

congrats to all you Sox fans. You have something to keep you occupied while waiting for the patch. I don't get TV, but it was really great radio! I even listened to the entire game 3 just to listen to Miller and Little Joe.

Considering how long the 0-3 jinx has been running it had to go down in dramatic fashion. Really great the way you guys did it against the Yanks. Screw Jeter and his "ghosts." The ghosts have all moved to a cornfield in Iowa. The Marlins proved that, after the Twins proved it, after the Diamondbacks proved it.

If the Cards make it through, I think we'll give you a pretty good tussle. If not, I'll be rooting for the 'Stros.



freeboy -> RE: some of us are following the "NIT" (10/22/2004 12:21:59 AM)

does anyone remember where they where on that fatefull night with the infamous grounder through the legs at first? I was in my Cambridge MAss apt rooting against the RS, For the Mets.. cannot believe it now... so now I live in Colorado I may actually watch a BB game.. I was really offended by the last players strike and as a former player of no mean ability took great offense and have watched few games in last decade.. read 0...


So where were you when the ball was missed?



Central Blue -> RE: some of us are following the "NIT" (10/22/2004 12:26:15 AM)

St. Albans, MO. On my honeymoon.



Admiral DadMan -> RE: some of us are following the "NIT" (10/22/2004 1:23:01 AM)

OMG, I nearly threw myself out of my college dorm room window when the ball went through Buckner's legs...



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