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Tophat -> RE: Presidential Patch or Matrix Elections? (10/29/2004 5:15:01 PM)

I got confused reading your reply so went back to the original offensive post for guidence......once again becoming vexed and needing to stick my Kerry doll...........still lacking pins i have settled on using tiny strips of maskingtape.[&:]



forranger -> RE: Presidential Patch or Matrix Elections? (10/29/2004 5:22:34 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Tophat

I got confused reading your reply so went back to the original offensive post for guidence......once again becoming vexed and needing to stick my Kerry doll...........still lacking pins i have settled on using tiny strips of maskingtape.[&:]


Not only pins, now maskingtape too? Boy, you're risking Abu Ghraib treatment.....



MadmanRick -> RE: Presidential Patch or Matrix Elections? (10/29/2004 5:59:19 PM)

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Not only pins, now maskingtape too? Boy, you're risking Abu Ghraib treatment.....


Yeah, where's Lanie and her leash when you need her? [:D][;)]

Rick

P.S. Don't worry Tophat, I confuse the best of medical minds too! [:D]



Tophat -> RE: Presidential Patch or Matrix Elections? (10/29/2004 6:09:45 PM)

The most disturbing thing is now my kerry doll looks like Lon Chaney as the mummy.Now this has brought back all kinds of boyhood memories of fright and i'm now afraid of my kerry voodoo doll.

All this would not have come to pass had the 1.3 patch comeout............its a vast leftwing conspiracy! I must now consult the oracle of foxnews for guidence...............[&o]



doktorblood -> RE: Presidential Patch or Matrix Elections? (10/29/2004 7:01:35 PM)

Only a Noob would use masking tape on a Kerry doll ... that is yet another job that duck tape would be the superior choice for.



byron13 -> RE: Presidential Patch or Matrix Elections? (10/29/2004 7:11:34 PM)

A friend of Germany sent me the following link:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uselections2004/story/0,13918,1329858,00.html

Apparently, the Guardian (an English paper) thought it would be a good idea if they provided the mailing addresses of unaffiliated voters in Clark County, Ohio, to its readership so the readership could send letters trying to persuade them on how to vote. Since the Guardian is a liberal paper, I assume the intent was to swing the vote to Kerry. Supposedly, over 11,000 Britons responded and requested addresses. This web page provides a sample of the responses from the U.S. It's pretty funny, and many of the responses are typical of what I would have expected. This is legit; there is a link at the bottom of the page to the original article in the Guardian requesting people to write in for addresses.

What was the Guardian staff thinking? Or were they?

Actually, the American election is very big news overseas. While at the Guardian, I cruised around, and they are keeping track of which European papers are endorsing who, and who various Arab ambassadors hope wins. Oddly, the frontpage today indicates that das Bild, a German paper, actually endorses Bush. Who woulda thunk? But there is a whole 'nuther world out there that is just as interested in this election as America is, but we don't seem to realize it.



fbastos -> RE: Presidential Patch or Matrix Elections? (10/29/2004 7:17:16 PM)

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pretty funny, and many of the responses are typical of what I would have expected


That article is in fact very amusing; with like peeps threatening to send the Marines arrest the newspaper folks at the UK...

F.



kellyc -> RE: Presidential Patch or Matrix Elections? (10/29/2004 9:45:21 PM)

I read through some of those e(?)mail responses. It is pretty funny but I'm curious as to this fixation with teeth?????[&:]


Sincerely
Kelly



Tankerace -> RE: Presidential Patch or Matrix Elections? (10/29/2004 10:10:45 PM)

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ORIGINAL: byron13

A friend of Germany sent me the following link:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uselections2004/story/0,13918,1329858,00.html

Apparently, the Guardian (an English paper) thought it would be a good idea if they provided the mailing addresses of unaffiliated voters in Clark County, Ohio, to its readership so the readership could send letters trying to persuade them on how to vote. Since the Guardian is a liberal paper, I assume the intent was to swing the vote to Kerry. Supposedly, over 11,000 Britons responded and requested addresses. This web page provides a sample of the responses from the U.S. It's pretty funny, and many of the responses are typical of what I would have expected. This is legit; there is a link at the bottom of the page to the original article in the Guardian requesting people to write in for addresses.

What was the Guardian staff thinking? Or were they?

Actually, the American election is very big news overseas. While at the Guardian, I cruised around, and they are keeping track of which European papers are endorsing who, and who various Arab ambassadors hope wins. Oddly, the frontpage today indicates that das Bild, a German paper, actually endorses Bush. Who woulda thunk? But there is a whole 'nuther world out there that is just as interested in this election as America is, but we don't seem to realize it.


You're right. The whole world is interested in our elections, and want to shape the outcome. What they, and some Democrats, fail to realize is they can be interested in it all they want, but it is our call. The British can write all they want, the French can whine all they want, and the Swiss can denounce some of us as Brain-washed. But in the end, it will be Americans, not the world, who will determine wo will be the next President.



von Murrin -> RE: Presidential Patch or Matrix Elections? (10/29/2004 11:12:25 PM)

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ORIGINAL: forranger

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ORIGINAL: Tophat

Just read Frags post.....loved it! Unfortunatly I saw MadmanRick's rant again and have now runout of pins for my Kerry doll,causing a morning crisis here! Rick,I hope you are happy now![:'(]


Just called Home Defense Ministry. You have confessed a clear case of doll terrorism. Sorry buddy, you're gonna be taken away to Guantanamo detention camp until you repent your evil deeds and denounce your terror network! [8D]


Shouldn't you be after Chucky? I even heard he's making another terror tape! YOU'RE GOING AFTER THE WRONG GUY!!![:'(]



byron13 -> RE: Presidential Patch or Matrix Elections? (10/30/2004 1:14:16 AM)

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ORIGINAL: kellyc

I read through some of those e(?)mail responses. It is pretty funny but I'm curious as to this fixation with teeth?????[&:]


Sincerely
Kelly


Don't know how things are now, but through at least the seventies there wasn't much focus on orthodontics. While every kid in the U.S. had braces to have lovely straight teeth, the Brits just lived with however the teeth came in - probably because of the awful socialized healthcare system. So you had some pretty bad looking choppers.



fbastos -> RE: Presidential Patch or Matrix Elections? (10/30/2004 2:09:16 AM)

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But in the end, it will be Americans, not the world, who will determine wo will be the next President.


In the end it will be American Corporations who will determine who will be the next President...

F.



Tankerace -> RE: Presidential Patch or Matrix Elections? (10/30/2004 2:10:55 AM)

But Americans none the less..... [:D]



Williamb -> RE: Presidential Patch or Matrix Elections? (10/30/2004 2:12:02 AM)

I miss the old days when Politicians offerd you free booze and hookers for your vote.

now they kept that all to themselves.



forranger -> RE: Presidential Patch or Matrix Elections? (10/30/2004 2:16:22 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Tankerace

But Americans none the less..... [:D]


Sure? How about arab, japanese, chinese, russian investors at Wall Street? Who donates campaign money in hope of later favors?



Tankerace -> RE: Presidential Patch or Matrix Elections? (10/30/2004 2:19:01 AM)

They can donate all they want, but they can't vote. Again, read my post. They can influence the election, but they don't decide it



forranger -> RE: Presidential Patch or Matrix Elections? (10/30/2004 2:31:12 AM)

How many hours does the average all-american voter spend in front of his/her TV? How big was the swing in polls after vietnam veterans started picking on Kerry in sponsored ads? The effect can be measured, and it was in a two digit range, no?



forranger -> RE: Presidential Patch or Matrix Elections? (10/30/2004 2:51:17 AM)

That's what compelled me to use the term brainwashing. On a bright summer day Kerry leads with comfortable 55%, then some vets are shown, looking like they had a rough time after coming home - don't turn this one as ill will on my side, I have high respect of anyone who had to serve over there! - presenting arguments that sounded dictated as hell, and 2 weeks later Kerry is down to about 42%. Not sure on the exact figures as I hoped it to be corrected quickly as soon as the Kerry team reacted, but Kerry took a drop of over 10%, and still has not recovered fully from that one.... So much to limited influence of donated campaign money......



Tophat -> RE: Presidential Patch or Matrix Elections? (10/30/2004 3:08:53 AM)

forranger wrote:

Sure? How about arab, japanese, chinese, russian investors at Wall Street? Who donates campaign money in hope of later favors?


I don't know foranger......how about getting the french and germans to tell us all about being bought? They tookin how many $billion with the "oil for food scam"? Hmmn,lets see they sold their U.N influence to Iraq and more or less made certain the U.s would be involved in a war in Iraq.And by the way,how about those arms shipments from the french violating U.N sanctions and potentially causing the death or injury of U.S servicemen? Now talk to me about those pure and righteous Europeans......please go ahead and enlighten me......



Tankerace -> RE: Presidential Patch or Matrix Elections? (10/30/2004 3:20:24 AM)

Especially the ones who want the US to ask permission from the UN to defend itself. The ones who denounce the war because we didn't find WMD (and they disregard that we found the capability to make WMD), but made us doddle 14 months, giving France and Germany's ol' buddy Saddam time to stash his WMD.

Why should the US be expected to take the UN seriously, when the people running the UN see it as just a way to make a few bucks and screw over America?

Because of corruption and impotence, the UN is about as effective right now as the League of Nations was. Remember them, the guys that turned a blind eye to Hitler and Mussolini. America was smart enough not to pay any attention to the League, for the very same reasons why the UN is becoming just as bad. The UN can't stop famine, it can't stop war, it can't stop scandals, and it couldn't even stop Saddam from thumbing his nose at them. And with the Oil for food scandal, now it is just a joke.



Frank W. -> RE: Presidential Patch or Matrix Elections? (10/30/2004 3:22:10 AM)

interestingly it seems some US posters have similar problems with their leading politicians like we with ours in germany.... [X(]

i guess you must chose the lesser of 2 evils....



Frank W. -> RE: Presidential Patch or Matrix Elections? (10/30/2004 3:24:52 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Tankerace

Especially the ones who want the US to ask permission to defend itself. The ones who denounce the war because we didn't find WMD (and they disregard that we found the capability to make WMD), but made us doddle 14 months, giving France and Germany's ol' buddy Saddam time to stash his WMD.


[:-] saddam also was an old buddy of the US of A.

a little reminder ( guess i donīt have to dig out the pics from rumsfeld shaking hands and smiling with saddam ? )



Tankerace -> RE: Presidential Patch or Matrix Elections? (10/30/2004 3:28:55 AM)

Yeah, he was an ol' buddy. But we never took kickbacks from him either. We sold him a bunch of weapons, and then when we realised he was the enemy, in 1991 we weren't hesitant to kick his a**.

To the Germans and French, I am not saying your countries are corrupt. My argument is against the United Nations, and the people that run it. I do not believe that the majoity of the French and German people endorsed or condoned the kickbacks being taken.



von Murrin -> RE: Presidential Patch or Matrix Elections? (10/30/2004 3:49:45 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Frank W.

interestingly it seems some US posters have similar problems with their leading politicians like we with ours in germany.... [X(]

i guess you must chose the lesser of 2 evils....


I prefer to think of it as the evil of two lessers.[;)]



Williamb -> RE: Presidential Patch or Matrix Elections? (10/30/2004 3:57:09 AM)

[image]http://a1636.g.akamai.net/7/1636/797/b81725404756e3/graphics.boston.com/news/packages/iraq/images/ideas_0302.jpg[/image]

Back in 1975, Saddam Hussein (center) was accompanied by Jacques Chirac (wearing glasses), then France's prime minister, on a tour of a nuclear power station.

[image]http://www.zdf.de/ZDFheute/img/20/0,1369,2063444,00.jpg[/image]
Chriac and Sadaam when Sadaam became President of Iraq.


[image]http://www.zdf.de/ZDFheute/img/23/0,1369,2063447,00.jpg[/image]



RUPD3658 -> RE: Presidential Patch or Matrix Elections? (10/30/2004 4:00:18 AM)

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ORIGINAL: William Amos

[image]http://a1636.g.akamai.net/7/1636/797/b81725404756e3/graphics.boston.com/news/packages/iraq/images/ideas_0302.jpg[/image]

Back in 1975, Saddam Hussein (center) was accompanied by Jacques Chirac (wearing glasses), then France's prime minister, on a tour of a nuclear power station.

[image]http://www.zdf.de/ZDFheute/img/20/0,1369,2063444,00.jpg[/image]
Chriac and Sadaam when Sadaam became President of Iraq.


[image]http://www.zdf.de/ZDFheute/img/23/0,1369,2063447,00.jpg[/image]

I guess we should be thanking the Israelis for taking out the reactor. Got to love a country that could care less about public opinion and just worries about it's own safety. We could learn a thing or two from them.



madmickey -> RE: Presidential Patch or Matrix Elections? (10/30/2004 4:14:23 AM)

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ORIGINAL: forranger

How many hours does the average all-american voter spend in front of his/her TV? How big was the swing in polls after vietnam veterans started picking on Kerry in sponsored ads? The effect can be measured, and it was in a two digit range, no?

I really do not want to get into politics (and waste my time) but a Swiss lurker who has really only posted on political points
To The Swiss who allowed Italian Jews to be transported in rail car through Switzerland on the way to the death camp
To this Swiss who were banker to Nazis and refused to pay Jewish survivor their deposit until The USA applied pressure (I am Canuck) do not insult the American in general.



Tophat -> RE: Presidential Patch or Matrix Elections? (10/30/2004 4:18:32 AM)

Frank W.

saddam also was an old buddy of the US of A.


Yea,Saddam was killing Iranians....and keeping iranians out of UAE and Saudi.....remember that quick little easy victory saddam tried to score off Iran after the Shaw decamped? So we used ole saddam........used 'em like a cheap pair of shoes....and it worked.We also saved access to that nice oil for you freeloading europerfectionists........your hypocracy still turns my stomach.



madmickey -> RE: Presidential Patch or Matrix Elections? (10/30/2004 4:20:36 AM)

Tankerace what authorized weapons did the American sell Iraq? I am not criticizing you; my country Canada probably sold more. They had Soviet planes, missles, guns and Tanks, They had French planes, and The French were still trying to sell certain weapons even in 2003. The South African shipped artillery. They had Chinesse missle and radar system.



Tankerace -> RE: Presidential Patch or Matrix Elections? (10/30/2004 4:36:38 AM)

All I know is we gave them ammo, and a bunch of surplus crap. I don't kow details, but I know we did it because at the time (late 1980's) we considered Iran the bigger threat, and we were trying to make sure Iraq didn't go under during the Iran-Iraq war.



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