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Tolwyn -> NEED Answer re TLD DGEN Data Files (12/26/2004 11:27:43 PM)
TLD DGEN replaces MANY files; some with different sizes and dates. How does this AFFECT installing OVER FB+AEP+PF version 3.03?

tankeriv -> RE: NEED Answer re TLD DGEN Data Files (12/27/2004 6:25:17 PM)
The patch adds new things, TLD does not contain any of the files that came with the patch.

HomeFries -> RE: NEED Answer re TLD DGEN Data Files (12/31/2004 8:14:13 PM)
Tankeriv, I have the same concerns; it seems that some of the files are older and/or smaller than the ones they are replacing. I run FB+AEP+PF, and I also have BoE with the Boe AEP Patch and Starshoy's BoE-PF update. I guess the bottom line is: is there anything i need to copy and paste to guarantee compatibility with both addons? Thanks in advance,

tankeriv -> RE: NEED Answer re TLD DGEN Data Files (1/2/2005 4:59:58 PM)
The new BOE update doesn't contain anything that overwrites things that came with TLD. TLD itself does overwrites some BOE stuff. Like : Briefing files + some medall packs. US briefings English briefings. If you want to avoid this then it is best to do as Tolwyn described at the SimHQ board to install TLD into an emtpty directory and move all : campaign. planes. .DB .mis files to your DGen directory. (found in the TLD installation DGen folder.) + all skins to the skins directory. If PF not installed please copy the new DGen file to you IL2 directory as well.

Kelm -> RE: NEED Answer re TLD DGEN Data Files (1/2/2005 7:22:32 PM)
Mad Gonzo, Sorry, but where can i find the Starshoy's BoE-PF update ?

Hard Sarge -> RE: NEED Answer re TLD DGEN Data Files (1/2/2005 8:30:05 PM)
try here http://justflight.com/en/(ksh3kw3hlraghb55adwvi42y)/index.aspx if not, then go justflight.com and click on free downloads HARD_Sarge

Kelm -> RE: NEED Answer re TLD DGEN Data Files (1/2/2005 9:31:42 PM)
Ok, thanks a lot.

HomeFries -> RE: NEED Answer re TLD DGEN Data Files (1/2/2005 10:41:19 PM)
Kelm, Actually, Starshoy's PF update isn't supported by Justflight. He did it on his own. The link is: BOE-PF Update Enjoy!

HomeFries -> RE: NEED Answer re TLD DGEN Data Files (1/2/2005 10:48:44 PM)
Tankeriv, I didn't see any new posts about this in the merged simhq forum. Do you refer to this post? @ Starshoy in which starshoy says that the datafiles must contain the following: quote: campaignsDeW.dat planesDeW.dat squadronsDeW.dat Their content must be: ===== campaignsDeW.dat ========= (BoE) Western Front Fighter. Dynamic campaign for German Western Front fighter pilot. France44 May 1944: France Normandy June 1944: The Invasion BerlinAir44 September 1944: Berlin Air Defense BalatonAir44 November 1944: Hungary Air Defense Ardennes December 1944: Ardennes Offensive BerlinAir45 February 1945: The Last Days ====== planesDeW.dat ====================== [France44] BF_109G6 FW_190A8 BF_109G6Late [Normandy] BF_109G6 FW_190A8 BF_109G6Late ME_262A2A [BerlinAir44] BF_109G6Late FW_190A8 BF_109G6AS BF_109G14 [BalatonAir44] BF_109G6Late FW_190D9 FW_190A8 BF_109G6AS BF_109G10 BF_109G14 [Ardennes] FW_190D9 FW_190A8 FW_190A9 BF_109G6AS BF_109G10 BF_109G14 BF_109K4 ME_262A2A [BerlinAir45] ME_262A1A FW_190D9 FW_190A9 BF_109G6AS BF_109G10 BF_109G14 BF_109K4 ====== squadronsDeW.dat ========= I_JG2 II_JG2 III_JG2 I_JG26 Stab_KG51a00 I_JG3 II_JG3 III_JG3 IV_JG3 I_JG1 II_JG1 III_JG1 II_JG4 III_JG1_1 Stab_JG11 I_JG26 Stab_JG26 I_JG27 II_JG27 II_JG27 III_JG27 IV_JG27 Stab_JG27 II_JG5_1 I_JG5_3 II_JG5_3 III_JG5_3 Stab_JG53 III_JG54 I_JG77 II_JG77 III_JG77 Stab_JG77 I_JG5 II_JG5 ====================== Thanks for the reply.

Hard Sarge -> RE: NEED Answer re TLD DGEN Data Files (1/2/2005 11:11:24 PM)
Sorry my bad, didn't know there was a BOE/PF update, thought he meant the update after AEP oh well thanks for adding the link HARD_Sarge

HomeFries -> RE: NEED Answer re TLD DGEN Data Files (1/2/2005 11:27:04 PM)
No problem Hard Sarge. It is understandably confusing. I found that from a SimHQ post.

Kelm -> RE: NEED Answer re TLD DGEN Data Files (1/2/2005 11:53:11 PM)
Ok, thanks Mad Gonzo for your link. BTW, Thanks anyway to Hard Sarge, for trying to help me. Honestly, i ve bought TLD, but i ve not installed it. In my actual install, i have a merged install of FB&PF, BoE, and Operation Fall Blau (Case Blue at Matrix), but when i see that LTD can overwrite several files, i have prefered not to install it, and waiting to have a solution, in how making a good install. So like the question have been asked by Tolwyn...I have thinked, that having more information about this, would be better, than erasing my actual game's campaign, with a bad install. PS: Sorry for my poor english.

HomeFries -> RE: NEED Answer re TLD DGEN Data Files (1/3/2005 5:28:40 AM)
Kelm, Here's what you can do: 1) install TLD into a separate folder 1.5) You may want to back up the medal and background files in your Missions\Campaign folder since TLD overwrites some of these. Personally, I like the default medals, but the backgrounds are pretty cool. 2) Copy the non-dgen files into their appropriate IL-2 FB folders (this way you at least get the skins and the single missions). Note - you do not have to copy the medals and backgrounds files to your IL-2 FB folder if you don't want to. 3) Make a back-up of your Dgen folder (the Dgen folder is nested in your main IL-2 FB folder) 4) Follow the advice Tankeriv gave me earlier in this thread This way, you can try out TLD and if it overwrites something that BOE needs, you can always restore from your backup Dgen folder. I intend to try this shortly. Hope this helps,

Kelm -> RE: NEED Answer re TLD DGEN Data Files (1/3/2005 11:59:41 AM)
Mad Gonzo, Thanks for your reply. I understood point one and two. And if i have well understood point 3, i made a backup of my actual Dgen folder, and when i want to play with the LTD's campaign, i move my original Dgen folder in an outside folder, and replace it by the LTD Dgen folder, from the seperate install of this addon. Sorry for this last question...but like i'am not very accustomed with english forum, i prefer have a confirmation, before installing this addon.

HomeFries -> RE: NEED Answer re TLD DGEN Data Files (1/4/2005 7:51:55 AM)
Tankeriv, After following your advice, it appears that the following files directly conflict with BoE: campaignsUSB.dat USD.dat DeJ.dat the campaignsDeW.dat did not exist in the TLD install directory despite the fact that the TLD installer tried to overwrite planesDeW.dat. I'm not sure if this is by design or an ommitted campaign, but regardless I edited the existing file to cover down on what Starshoy said the file should include. I merged all of the corresponding PlanesXXX.dat files so that shouldn't be a problem. However, it doesn't appear that the campaignsXXX.dat files can be merged; they appear to each have a single heading/description and then theaters listed below. Can they be merged, or if not, how can I go about moving individual theaters to other campaign data files (e.g. the TLD HE-111 campaigns in DeJ to the stock DeB datafile, or is there a better way of doing this? Thanks in advance for your assistance. BTW, the campaigns I did get to work are very nice. Thanks for the great work.

HomeFries -> RE: NEED Answer re TLD DGEN Data Files (1/4/2005 9:58:07 PM)
All, [8D][8D]I think I've made it work![8D][8D] 1) Overwriting any of the DeW.dat files is unnecessary; the TLD DeW files are identical to the TLD DeV files and appear to be unnecessary. You can leave the original DeW files as BoE intended. 2) BoE USB and USD files are used for US Fighters and P-38 campaigns respectively. They cannot be merged with the TLD USB and USD files. However, since both TLD campaigns use the same planes and squadrons, I merged them into USE.dat files. I created a campaignsUSE.dat to merge both USB and USD files: campaignsUSE.dat * (TLD) - US Fighter. Dynamic fictional campaign for an American fighter pilot. ArdennesTLDusLuft46 March 1945: The Battle of the Bulge continues. (Bodenplatte Luft 46) BerlinTLDUS Berlin 1945: The very last and most desperate months of the war. the TLD planesUSB.dat and squadronsUSB.dat can just be copied to your Dgen folder as planesUSE.dat and squadronsUSE.dat. You do not need to overwrite your BoE USB and USD dat files. 3) The TLD DeJ is a He-111 Luft 46 campaign that conflicts with BoE. DeD is also a TLD He-111 campaign, but does not conflict. So to not overwrite the BoE Jabo campaigns, I merged the appropriate lines to create these files: campaignsDeD.dat * (TLD) He-111 Bomber. OT Dynamic campaign for He-111 bomber pilot LvovTLD Lvov Summer 44 ArdennesTLDLuft46B February 1945: Operation Fruhlings Ehrwachen continues. planesDeD.dat* [LvovTLD] HE_111H2 HE_111H6 [ArdennesTLDLuft46B] HE_111H2 HE_111H6 the squadronsDeD.dat file can remain as is. This should take care of any merging necessary. No other BoE files need to be overwritten by TLD. Tankeriv, please correct me if you see any problems. I have not run into any showstoppers yet. Everyone else, please back up your dgen folder before attempting this. Hope this helps,

Tolwyn -> RE: NEED Answer re TLD DGEN Data Files (1/5/2005 12:41:00 AM)
Darn it! I knew I was right about this. Basically, we need to have a patch released that addresses the DeW overwritten files. Most definately, TLD overwrites BOE's: planesDeW.dat file and squadronsDeW.dat files; rendering some BOE campaigns as useless.

HomeFries -> RE: NEED Answer re TLD DGEN Data Files (1/5/2005 8:07:10 AM)
Tolwyn, Not really. All you need to do is restore your original planesDeW.dat and squadronsDeW.dat files, or just write them up as Starshoy posted. I think the DeW files were duplicates that unintentionally made it into the install; the DeV files are identical. You get the same Luft46 Tankbuster campaign with the DeV files without needing to overwrite your DeWs.

Tolwyn -> RE: NEED Answer re TLD DGEN Data Files (1/5/2005 11:55:31 PM)
Starshoy also said that if we use his original file, then some TLD campaigns will not work; or will cease to function because the DeW campaign had not been renamed. There is still an issue.

HomeFries -> RE: NEED Answer re TLD DGEN Data Files (1/6/2005 12:21:56 AM)
I wonder if we're talking apples and oranges here: 1) I didn't have a campaignsDeW.dat file in my TLD installation (it merely attempted to overwrite the planesDeW and squadronsDeW) 2) the planesDeW and squadronsDeW files were identical to their corresponding DeV files (same squadrons, plane and referenced the Luft46TB campaign). Therefore I took them to be the same thing as the DeW files. If you actually have a TLD DeW file that points to something other than the Ju-87G1 Ardennes 45 Tankbuster Campaign, then I may have to repair my TLD install, although I haven't modified it.

Tolwyn -> RE: NEED Answer re TLD DGEN Data Files (1/6/2005 6:15:23 AM)
I don't know how to make it any clearer. Starhoy's File, PF 3.03 + BOE: campaignsDeW.dat planesDeW.dat squadronsDeW.dat Their content must be: ====== planesDeW.dat ====================== [France44] BF_109G6 FW_190A8 BF_109G6Late [Normandy] BF_109G6 FW_190A8 BF_109G6Late ME_262A2A [BerlinAir44] BF_109G6Late FW_190A8 BF_109G6AS BF_109G14 [BalatonAir44] BF_109G6Late FW_190D9 FW_190A8 BF_109G6AS BF_109G10 BF_109G14 [Ardennes] FW_190D9 FW_190A8 FW_190A9 BF_109G6AS BF_109G10 BF_109G14 BF_109K4 ME_262A2A [BerlinAir45] ME_262A1A FW_190D9 FW_190A9 BF_109G6AS BF_109G10 BF_109G14 BF_109K4 ====== squadronsDeW.dat ========= I_JG2 II_JG2 III_JG2 I_JG26 Stab_KG51a00 I_JG3 II_JG3 III_JG3 IV_JG3 I_JG1 II_JG1 III_JG1 II_JG4 III_JG1_1 Stab_JG11 I_JG26 Stab_JG26 I_JG27 II_JG27 II_JG27 III_JG27 IV_JG27 Stab_JG27 II_JG5_1 I_JG5_3 II_JG5_3 III_JG5_3 Stab_JG53 III_JG54 I_JG77 II_JG77 III_JG77 Stab_JG77 I_JG5 II_JG5 ====================== BTW, can I sue for copyright violation? BerlinAir45 February 1945: The Last Days TLD Files: planesDeW.dat 08/20/2004 [ArdennesTLDLuft46TB] JU_87G1 squadronsDeW.dat 08/20/2004 I_StGOne II_StGOne I_StG2 II_StG2 III_StG2 IV_StG2 Stab_StG2 4_StG2 I_StG77a II_StG77a III_StG77a IV_StG77a Stab_StG77a IV_LG1

HomeFries -> RE: NEED Answer re TLD DGEN Data Files (1/6/2005 7:26:27 AM)
Concur with the above. What I am saying is that when you set your DeW files as Starshoy specified above, you still aren't losing a TLD campaign. That TLD campaign is captured in the DeV file. Open your TLD planesDeV.dat file and you'll see that it is the same as the TLD DeW file you posted above. Same holds true for the squadronsDeV.dat file. It appears that we are in violent agreement[:D]

tankeriv -> RE: NEED Answer re TLD DGEN Data Files (1/7/2005 12:29:44 AM)
tolwyn, I am currently working on a patch for TLD. Could you please contact me at tld(-at-)airwarfare.com and summarize the most important things you have found. Sorry for that but due everything spread on all boards I miss some things. Thanks in advance.

Tolwyn -> RE: NEED Answer re TLD DGEN Data Files (1/7/2005 9:46:51 AM)
I'll do my best. I should email you with Starshoy's email address! THAT would be the BETTER alternative. NOT that you have done ANY THING AT ALL WRONG... That is not my intention or point... only that by some coincidence, files have been (and only 2!!) replaced on accident. Would that be okay with you? My main goal is only that TLD doesn't interfere with any BOE files or any original DGEN/*.dat files. That is only my concern. :D

tankeriv -> RE: NEED Answer re TLD DGEN Data Files (1/7/2005 11:53:14 AM)
I already have Starshoy's email adress. Soon a copy of TLD will head for him. The very point is that I am doing all my best to read all forums and see if I can find any posts from people that have requests or reporting bugs that it is starting to dazzle me. Not that there are that many bugs but its that I need to seperate real bugs from hoaxes / jokes. Not that I don't like jokes but sometimes there are incredibly long threads for just a tiny small thing and well. find it [:D] Well I am doing all my best and thats something I can promise. Best Alex

Kelm -> RE: NEED Answer re TLD DGEN Data Files (1/7/2005 3:35:02 PM)
Hello tankeriv, I follow this thread, and like i already said, i ve bought TLD, but i have also not install it, because i have BoE, on my IL2FB install... I'am not a "pro", that can modify several files of the game, to give a compatibility between these two addons, but i will be greatful, if you can made a patch that allow a full compatibility between TLD and BoE. My main "use" of IL2 is offline, and i like a lot all the addon that i have bought previously, like BoE, Operation fall Bau...So i hope not to wait a long time, to have a fix that allow to add without problem TLD, in my actual install. PS: I hope also that matrix will propose soon Operation Barbarossa by DD. ...and sorry if my englis is not very correct...

Tolwyn -> RE: NEED Answer re TLD DGEN Data Files (1/7/2005 9:35:19 PM)
Yeah. I have nothing else to report regarding the issue. Just looks like one or more of the TLD campaigns is "named" the same as the BoE campaign(s)... And that those 2 *DeW.dat files overwrote the BoE ones of the same name... I'm not a DGEN editing expert... especially when it comes to the DAT files. Maybe just for Case Blue, a translated readme.

tankeriv -> RE: NEED Answer re TLD DGEN Data Files (1/7/2005 10:31:12 PM)
Well I will put all information given in this thread and at all other forum boards and make some sort of checklist of it. And make sure all has been solved. I will keep you informed.

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