Any reason CS ships cannot bombard???

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Tanaka -> Any reason CS ships cannot bombard??? (2/3/2005 5:08:01 AM)
Seems like they have the guns for it. Also APD's are not allowed as well....

mogami -> RE: Any reason CS ships cannot bombard??? (2/3/2005 6:39:30 AM)
Hi, Well if you get really technical quite a few CV have guns. I want to know why submarines can't bombard.

Ron Saueracker -> RE: Any reason CS ships cannot bombard??? (2/3/2005 8:30:08 AM)
Can ducks deliver pizza?[;)]

Mr.Frag -> RE: Any reason CS ships cannot bombard??? (2/3/2005 12:39:49 PM)
Yea, I'd like to use my original Lexington & Saratoga as a Bombardment TF with their 8" guns, Enterprise & Yorktown can come along for close in support with their 5" guns [:D] Yes, it's too early in the morning for me to be posting [X(]

michaelm75au -> RE: Any reason CS ships cannot bombard??? (2/3/2005 1:10:12 PM)
You can't torpdeo a Base?[&:] Reminds of an old McHale Navy episode where a torpedo is fired from a sub, runs up the beach of their island and blows up the cache of "supplies". Michael

Richelieu -> RE: Any reason CS ships cannot bombard??? (2/3/2005 3:09:34 PM)
Hey, I don't see why Tanaka's question would be so funny. [:-] AV are more or less converted civilian ships, but CS are Scout Cruisers and looked like light japanese cruisers, with DP guns under turrets. They were made for patrol or DD task forces reinforcement, I don't see why they could not attack / bombard along with DDs and cruisers. This is obviously true for APDs (japanese APDs are nothing else that old DDs).

tanker4145 -> RE: Any reason CS ships cannot bombard??? (2/3/2005 3:12:24 PM)
I don't no why they can't, never tried myself.

Mr.Frag -> RE: Any reason CS ships cannot bombard??? (2/3/2005 3:13:23 PM)
Whoops, wrong question ... What do you mean specifically? Both APD & CS can be put in a bombardment TF. As to the merits of getting in close enough to use 5" guns and take counter fire from 6" shore batteries with no armor ... well, to each their own.

Andrew Brown -> RE: Any reason CS ships cannot bombard??? (2/3/2005 3:21:10 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Mogami I want to know why submarines can't bombard. Well, a Japanese submarine DID bombard Sydney and Newcastle in Australia during WW2 (no - I am NOT advocating that this be added).

rtrapasso -> RE: Any reason CS ships cannot bombard??? (2/3/2005 3:54:21 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Andrew Brown quote: ORIGINAL: Mogami I want to know why submarines can't bombard. Well, a Japanese submarine DID bombard Sydney and Newcastle in Australia during WW2 (no - I am NOT advocating that this be added). IJN subs also bombarded the west coast of US on occasion (shelled a refinery early in the war, iirc). I don't count the time my father's ship accidentally shelled San Diego during AA practice and then left port in a hurry (steaming over a telephone/telegraph cable and destroying it in its haste) This went down in the "official histories" as an IJN sub attack - true story![:-][:D][X(] PS - IJN subs were also known to shell "island outposts" such as Midway. They also shelled Hawaii (Hilo and other places, iirc). EDIT UPDATE: I checked with my father - he says the city struck by their AA practice was Ventura, California not San Diego. He also says the Navy "did a nice job in covering it up."

mogami -> RE: Any reason CS ships cannot bombard??? (2/3/2005 3:58:55 PM)
Hi, A real long time ago it was one of the features I asked for. I had visons of driving the Allied player nuts shelling isolated places.

rtrapasso -> RE: Any reason CS ships cannot bombard??? (2/3/2005 4:03:52 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Mogami Hi, A real long time ago it was one of the features I asked for. I had visons of driving the Allied player nuts shelling isolated places. It WOULD be cool! Well, maybe in 10 years when they release WITP 2!

Marten -> RE: Any reason CS ships cannot bombard??? (2/3/2005 4:20:54 PM)
by this time i should finish my current game... [:D]

Ron Saueracker -> RE: Any reason CS ships cannot bombard??? (2/3/2005 5:01:23 PM)
I think it would have sucked given the bombardment model. Too many bombardments as is. US were going to use Narwhal to bombard the Emperors coastal residence but decided it might make the Japanese even more bent on death for the Emperor.

Tanaka -> RE: Any reason CS ships cannot bombard??? (2/3/2005 6:54:20 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Mr.Frag Whoops, wrong question ... What do you mean specifically? Both APD & CS can be put in a bombardment TF. As to the merits of getting in close enough to use 5" guns and take counter fire from 6" shore batteries with no armor ... well, to each their own. thats just it. they can be put into a bombardment task force but they do not do anything. check the combat report. only the bbs, ca's, cl's, dd's participate....

Mr.Frag -> RE: Any reason CS ships cannot bombard??? (2/3/2005 7:17:04 PM)
quote: thats just it. they can be put into a bombardment task force but they do not do anything. check the combat report. only the bbs, ca's, cl's, dd's participate.... Thats why I asked what you meant ... they are not coded as a valid ship type to do bombardment.

Tanaka -> RE: Any reason CS ships cannot bombard??? (2/3/2005 7:29:14 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Mr.Frag quote: thats just it. they can be put into a bombardment task force but they do not do anything. check the combat report. only the bbs, ca's, cl's, dd's participate.... Thats why I asked what you meant ... they are not coded as a valid ship type to do bombardment. does this mean they will be coded to do bombardment??? [:)] PG boats can be put in a bombardment taskforce as well but do not bombard either even though some have guns as big as destroyers....

Mr.Frag -> RE: Any reason CS ships cannot bombard??? (2/3/2005 7:45:22 PM)
quote: does this mean they will be coded to do bombardment??? Don't know, might break things like the AI who has a tough enough time figuring out what ships to use for what.

RUPD3658 -> RE: Any reason CS ships cannot bombard??? (2/3/2005 10:09:34 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Mr.Frag Yea, I'd like to use my original Lexington & Saratoga as a Bombardment TF with their 8" guns, Enterprise & Yorktown can come along for close in support with their 5" guns [:D] Yes, it's too early in the morning for me to be posting [X(] Why stop there? Close to 40mm range! [sm=00000106.gif]

Ron Saueracker -> RE: Any reason CS ships cannot bombard??? (2/3/2005 10:21:17 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Tanaka quote: ORIGINAL: Mr.Frag quote: thats just it. they can be put into a bombardment task force but they do not do anything. check the combat report. only the bbs, ca's, cl's, dd's participate.... Thats why I asked what you meant ... they are not coded as a valid ship type to do bombardment. does this mean they will be coded to do bombardment??? [:)] PG boats can be put in a bombardment taskforce as well but do not bombard either even though some have guns as big as destroyers.... Darn! USS Charleston is a perfect bombardment ship for small landings!!![&:]

tsimmonds -> RE: Any reason CS ships cannot bombard??? (2/3/2005 10:24:51 PM)
quote: Darn! USS Charleston is a perfect bombardment ship for small landings!!! Charleston sank one of my subbies a few days back. [:@] I definitely think it should become a PT tender.

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