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steve99x -> Japanese taking control of Allied Ships! (3/7/2005 2:53:37 AM)
anyone have a problem with this? I've been having AP's and AK's and one lone CL being taken over by the Japanese computer control, and taking these ships to one of their ports to "pick up a unit and uload at..." I can take back control, but after a turn or two... the JN take it back. one ship went all the way to the enemy base, and then was immediately bombed and turned into a coral reef. any ideas?????

PeteG662 -> RE: Japanese taking control of Allied Ships! (3/7/2005 3:57:16 AM)
Any zones on computer control? If not then exactly what port is this happening from and did you recapture the port from the Jap AI at some point?

steve99x -> RE: Japanese taking control of Allied Ships! (3/7/2005 5:33:51 AM)
I had all but East and Southeast under computer control... when this started happening, I put the South under my control and it still keeps happening.. the "hijacked" CL wants to head to Japan... a few APs want to pull troops off of Truk (isolated base) and another is Medang, but none of these have ever bee under my control. maybe if I put everything under human control?

Mr.Frag -> RE: Japanese taking control of Allied Ships! (3/7/2005 6:12:15 AM)
Is this Truk under Allied control?

castor troy -> RE: Japanese taking control of Allied Ships! (3/7/2005 1:15:28 PM)
Just posted this in another thread: Had this bug too. Under what control is your base? I´ve got this bug if I take an enemy base and it stays under an enemy command. If I take Chandpur and place some ships there every two or three turns a TF is formed because the base is still under British HQ. It´s the same problem with my aircraft. Placed in a base under enemy HQ and my aircraft forget their ordered target. It´s reset every turn. This doesn´t happen if the base is under my control and my HQ. If I change HQ I have to spend PP but the next turn it´s again an enemy HQ. My base under enemy HQ and then these two bugs appear: planes forget their ordered target and TFs are built.

steve99x -> RE: Japanese taking control of Allied Ships! (3/7/2005 3:38:27 PM)
no... I've never taken control of it, just beat the crap out of it and left it to wither... the same for the other bases... never touched 'em. Medano and Kobe... they seem to be the ones the hijacked ships are heading towards.

Mr.Frag -> RE: Japanese taking control of Allied Ships! (3/7/2005 3:49:41 PM)
Any ships at sea have this happen? Or is this specifically ships in port at a base that once was enemy.

castor troy -> RE: Japanese taking control of Allied Ships! (3/7/2005 3:52:28 PM)
In my case, only ships in port have gone crazy. And the planes of course.

steve99x -> RE: Japanese taking control of Allied Ships! (3/7/2005 6:24:12 PM)
seems to have happened while the TF's were either anchored or docked at a friendly base. the only time I noticed it maybe happening at sea is when I would send it back to it's home port and it would attempt to defect again! it could have made it back to port and then head out again... didn't notice.

steve99x -> RE: Japanese taking control of Allied Ships! (3/8/2005 9:43:28 PM)
now they're trying to shanghai the Arizona!!! anyone else having this problem???

Mr.Frag -> RE: Japanese taking control of Allied Ships! (3/8/2005 9:58:23 PM)
A couple of folks have reported this. It appears that for whatever reason, the AI thinks it still owns the base so anything put there it takes as it's own.

castor troy -> RE: Japanese taking control of Allied Ships! (3/9/2005 1:20:51 PM)
Don´t place planes or ships in a base if it´s still under enemy HQ. Look at this example. I took Lunga, now it´s a Jap base still under Allied South Pacific command. If I place ships there, now and then they go wild. If I order my bombers a specific hex as target they just ignore it and it´s reset to commanders disrection the next turn. In my case this happened also in Chandpur! Seems to me it only appears if a base is taken by an amphibious assault, never had it if i attack from landside. That´s nearly a game breaker if you´ve got this bug in a real important base and you can´t really use it.

WhoCares -> RE: Japanese taking control of Allied Ships! (3/9/2005 3:39:39 PM)
Link: Another thread with the same topic I reported similar stuff there: quote: Yepp, I have it the other way around as Japanese in Soerabaja(sp?). Disbanded about twenty merchants and some escorts there just to find them send to San Francisco to pick-up whatever there is I played this game several time (taking control and disbanding the TF) just to find them in a new TF a turn or two later. Now I keep them in a TF or sent the to other bases. Only MLs kept in harour for repair. I abbroached S. over land, so no, I don't think that it matters how you got your claws on the base. I think S. is put under allied control when it happens, but I would have to check this again. 'My' Lunga is/was under allied contol but conducted Naval Attacks vs. allied shipping anyway. Edit: No, so far it did not happen to ships in TFs, no matter whether docked or not.

castor troy -> RE: Japanese taking control of Allied Ships! (3/9/2005 5:11:16 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: WhoCares Link: Another thread with the same topic I reported similar stuff there: quote: Yepp, I have it the other way around as Japanese in Soerabaja(sp?). Disbanded about twenty merchants and some escorts there just to find them send to San Francisco to pick-up whatever there is I played this game several time (taking control and disbanding the TF) just to find them in a new TF a turn or two later. Now I keep them in a TF or sent the to other bases. Only MLs kept in harour for repair. I abbroached S. over land, so no, I don't think that it matters how you got your claws on the base. I think S. is put under allied control when it happens, but I would have to check this again. 'My' Lunga is/was under allied contol but conducted Naval Attacks vs. allied shipping anyway. Edit: No, so far it did not happen to ships in TFs, no matter whether docked or not. If I put planes on naval attack on Lunga they also attack. But if I order a specific target e.g. port attack on Efate they do a port attack on another port. Have you ever had this? They don´t accept "my" target, AI just switches to another target. Next day I check target is reset to "commanders disrection" although it should stay on my ordered target until "I" change or reset it.

steve99x -> RE: Japanese taking control of Allied Ships! (3/9/2005 6:23:53 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: castor troy Don´t place planes or ships in a base if it´s still under enemy HQ. Look at this example. I took Lunga, now it´s a Jap base still under Allied South Pacific command. If I place ships there, now and then they go wild. If I order my bombers a specific hex as target they just ignore it and it´s reset to commanders disrection the next turn. In my case this happened also in Chandpur! Seems to me it only appears if a base is taken by an amphibious assault, never had it if i attack from landside. That´s nearly a game breaker if you´ve got this bug in a real important base and you can´t really use it. is there a way to see if the base is still under an enemy HQ? I'm playing against the Jap AI and don't know of a way to check that... my problem is with Palau... took the base... no enemy troops left, and it's now my HQ base for invasions of PI & NG... I have ships hijacked ships heading our every which way! BIG bug!!!!

Mr.Frag -> RE: Japanese taking control of Allied Ships! (3/9/2005 6:58:37 PM)
If you look at the base's HQ, it will not be one of yours as the AI has toggled it back to one of theirs.

steve99x -> RE: Japanese taking control of Allied Ships! (3/9/2005 8:04:33 PM)
your right! the same is true for a Palau, Saipan, Yap and a few others in the Marianas... except Guam... any way to correct this????

Mr.Frag -> RE: Japanese taking control of Allied Ships! (3/9/2005 8:21:01 PM)
Not that I know of at this point in time.

steve99x -> RE: Japanese taking control of Allied Ships! (3/14/2005 6:37:39 PM)
another update on this... REALLY a game killer at this point... I spend the first part of every turn re-directing "hi-jacked" TF's... now they're even coming out of a base that has been captured AND is normally listed as US Navy base, as opposed to Palau, Yap and Ulithi still holding IJ Navy status after capture. I guess just a report for next version...

Cmdrcain -> RE: Japanese taking control of Allied Ships! (3/15/2005 5:38:02 AM)
Seems I've been hit with this bug after taking Noumea... As Japanese.. [:@] OTOH it seems that the allied AI thinking noumeas its port has been sending supplies and troops to it... and my KB parked there is having a field day sinking allied shipping.. I had sunk Lex,Sara,the E, yorktown already in action nearby losing one CV and one damaged, and just sunk the hornet that was sent down towards suva... [:'(]

pad152 -> RE: Japanese taking control of Allied Ships! (3/15/2005 6:01:40 AM)
steve99x I've had this happen too, the way to fix it is to remove all ships from the effective port (sail them one hex way), save game, exit game, restart, load save, then bring the ships back to port, and the problem should go away.

Cmdrcain -> RE: Japanese taking control of Allied Ships! (3/16/2005 7:14:52 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Mr.Frag If you look at the base's HQ, it will not be one of yours as the AI has toggled it back to one of theirs. See my Noumea thread. Base is under a japanese command before disbanding and still is next turn when ships disbanded are sent off on Allied computer controlled errands.. so the port bug hits even if its under proper command.. I've even switched bases command to southeast fleet from 4th and still port bug. So it occurs even without a base toggeled back.. Otoh in my noumea problem, Lunga/gudacanel switchs from japanese to south pacific each turn, I set to japanese it reverts.. but Noumea is different, it doesn't revert.. I think these Computers are getting so darn powerful we maybe are creating an AI... humm maybe all the PC's connected to Internet have created an AI that sneaks in through connection and is having fun with us humans [:D][:D][:D]

Cmdrcain -> RE: Japanese taking control of Allied Ships! (3/16/2005 7:16:15 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: pad152 steve99x I've had this happen too, the way to fix it is to remove all ships from the effective port (sail them one hex way), save game, exit game, restart, load save, then bring the ships back to port, and the problem should go away. No joy

Sardaukar -> RE: Japanese taking control of Allied Ships! (3/16/2005 1:52:19 PM)
I just noticed I have one USN CL under US Army [:-] command, commanded by Army Major in Scen 16. Looks bit weird...but no biggie. Probably some minor database glitch. Cheers, M.S.

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