donkuchi19 -> RE: Uniforms?????? (5/6/2005 3:09:24 AM)
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ORIGINAL: pixelpusher Just finished making the updated Austrian white uniforms. Made some of their pants sort of a - blue / gray. But it is very faint, almost white. (Some austrian uniforms were blue white coats w/ blue pants.) Thus some of the units will be all white, and some will be white w/ white-blue/gray pants. Coats are very white. I'm somewhat concerned that they'll be legible on the detailed battle screen, but I suppose it will be OK since they will be the only units with this much brightness. [image]local://upfiles/16293/DB33219D1EE34CA99C5551D3DA6B048F.jpg[/image] Ok, since you brought this up pixelpusher. Disclaimer : I will use the NATO symbols exclusively and I again say that I bring up the following so you can be prepared when the hordes of Napoleonic enthusiasts come this way. I have nothing against the game designers and I TRULY wish them only the best, but I am forced to say that this is embarrassing. White (in general) is better for the Austrian infantry. Thank you. I am shocked at what I see. It leaves me wondering if this is really supposed to be a Napoleonic game. This is NOT a complaint about "too many buttons" or anything else that could be called inconsequential. It is rather an educated observation about something glaringly obvious. I am sorry, but not one uniform shown above even looks like it belongs to the Austrian Army of the Napoleonic Era. The closest is the Lancer. Some specifics are the red epaulettes and the red football shoulder pads that the kneeling infantryman and the artillerist at the bottom has. (The Austrian Army didn't have them at all.) If anyone disputes this, I would like to ask them to tell us all what Austrian regiment or branch of service these illustrations represent. (Please.) The figures are way, way too muscular and they look like they're wearing spandex. I am certain that the artist has made many wonderful contributions and deserves great praise for all of them, but it really looks like he should go back to "the drawing board" and redo this aspect game. The cannons, muskets and horses look right. There will be people who will come after me that will point these things out and they most likely will do it in a less respectful way. With so much attention to Napoleonic detail, they will wonder why this aspect of the game has gotten the short shrift. They will wonder if other aspects will get the same treatment and I fear that they probably not buy the game. You see, I want them all to buy it. I want this game to be VERY successful -period. 1. Will these images be moddable? 2. Will the NATO symbols be available at the Strategic Level? If, the answer to either of these two questions is "yes," then please feel free to do nothing. If the answer is "no" to both, then I respectfully submit that there needs to be some more work done. We can all agree that what is seen on the screen is very important. I understand how important it is to have the game released and not end up in endless modifications. I want it released too. We've been waiting far too long for something like this game. Please take that extra step (wherever it needs to be) and cross into the end zone for the score. You're too close to stop now. I am not one to beat up developers on thier choices, but being one who loves using miniatures to recreate Napoleonic battles, uniforms are very important to me. I guess it comes down to your target audience. Die hard Napoleonics (like me) will likely be turned off by the uniform errors. Casual strategy gamers might not care. From following many of the boards on Matrix's site, I think you will find more Grognards than casual gamers. This may be a mistake to overlook these errors. I for one would look for Austrian gunners with their brown uniforms, Lancers with their green uniforms, Cuirassiers with their Black Curaiss on the front, Austrian Infantry in all white except for facings and such, Austrian officers with a gold or yellow sash, Hungarian Infantry with white tops and blue pants with yellow lace, infantry wearing either the helmet or the shako, and guards with their fur caps with the peaks. I was (and may still be) looking forward to this game but it might end up being a sticking point on whether I purchase it or not. These are just my two cents and you can agree or not, but take them for what they are worth. Thanks
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