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mc3744 -> RE: Winning the war (9/16/2005 2:34:31 PM)
June 3rd, 1942 INDIA-BURMA In the picture the two attacks vectors and the units involved. They are all at full strength. Bangkok's air symbol has turned hot red. Since it’s (11) hexes from Akyab I’ve retreated all my air units. I’m going to do some recon over Bangkok. I could move fighters in, but I don’t want to waste time in the training. I now have (4) squadrons approaching (80) exp, in a few days they’ll be upgraded to Spitfire’s and Hurricane’s. Now I only have (2) serious (73-75 exp) fighter squadrons. I’d rather engage in a winning situation. (20) good fighters are not a winning situation, draw at best. I’ve discovered something I didn’t know for sure. Until (2) weeks ago I’ve been using my heavies form DH - size (9) -. I then moved them to Dacca – size (6) – to be closer to the targets. It turns out that the airfield size is way more important than the distance. In DH op damages were always over-compensated by the repair rate, in Dacca every turn the ready aircrafts decrease. I’ve grounded them all as they are below 50% efficiency. I’ll move them back to DH and I’m moving ENG units into Dacca to speed-up the airfield build-up. The LB airlift supplies to Chungking have been turned to ground attack duties (with some good results) as the Japs are LRCAPping over Chungking (and shot down quite a few last turn). The TR in Ledo are flying supplies in Kunming. CHINA One of the basic infantry rules is: under heavy fire spread out. Well I’m doing that. Bombing Burma I noticed that he had split units. I’m actually bombing sections. Hence I thought to do the same in China. Why should I stay concentrated under heavy bombing? So all the divisions coming under fire are being split. It should ease a bit the beating. Or –at least – confuse him for a couple of days. AUSTRALIA This last hex is proving the slowest, not even (10) movement points per turn! [:@] I don’t know why here the movement is so slow. CENPAC The carriers threat seems to be over. Apparently he is withdrawing. I’ll wait a bit more and then resume the Australian lifeline. SOPAC Un NZ Bde is moving to Suva. He has no planes there, no other units and he is trying to starve me out. If, as it seems, he has spread thin I may cause him some troubles. Anyway I’m still far, plenty of time to change my mind. Same goes for strengthening Christmas. [image]local://upfiles/11282/7EE70DEE20654BCDB6A98D0E62A23CF0.jpg[/image]

mc3744 -> RE: Winning the war (9/17/2005 12:54:28 AM)
June 5th, 1942 INDIA-BURMA My advance has been spotted and he is moving units NE of Mandalay. Akyab now has 450 mines and counting. CHINA [:(] Chunking’s SE wing has fallen yesterday, also the road to Chengtu is cut. Basically it’s a big, huge, enormous mess. Japanese units everywhere, there isn’t a front anymore. I’m going to retreat into the main cities and stick there until I’ll be able to kick his air force back … or until I’m done! PI Manila has eventually fallen. But something strange has happened. The VPs are now 19.500 – 5.800. I only lost few hundreds, not 1.200! He got those 1.200, which is obviously much better. Now, even loosing Chungking (3.600), I still stand a chance to avoid auto-victory. AUSTRALIA Good news and bad news. The bad news. It’s taking forever to enter Daly. All my units are advancing at different speeds. The Australian tanks got there first (despite starting two days later), alone, and have been beaten senseless. I don’t understand this. Is this a bugged hex?!? [:@] [:@] Good news: see the picture. He only has (1) division and (1) regiment!! [:D] It means that (2) Div + (2) Bde + (1) HQ will be more than enough to keep him engaged. Hence I have (1) HQ + (4) Div + (4) Bde + (3) Tanks to clear the flanks. I should not get optimistic, but I am, just a little [;)]. I dare say there’s hope. PACIFIC The carriers keep annoying me in the Pacific. They are simply slowing me down a few days, but it bothers. It is actually a good thing because he is wasting so much fuel … still it annoys me. [image]local://upfiles/11282/D466E88C338F4ECCB180CC52D06672C2.jpg[/image]

mc3744 -> RE: Winning the war (9/18/2005 6:27:11 PM)
June 8th, 1942 INDIA-BURMA Training, bombing, mining, advancing. Nothing’s changed. CHINA A huge mess. I’m retreating. I’m going to hold in Changsha, Ichang and Chungking and I’ll retreat all the rest of the Chinese Army towards Kunming. I can’t hold the front and I don’t want to loose all the units. One day I’ll be able to come back. AUSTRALIA I’m in Daly with (2) Div and (2) Bde plus (1) HQ. He does not dare attack me. I’m moving the other units for the encirclement. Meanwhile the sixth Australian Division has arrived, It’ll be a strategic reserve. Two more Base Forces and one AA are en route. One B-17 squadron upgraded to B-24D. PACIFIC Jap carriers still hanging around and consuming fuel. I’m taking a long detour to get to Bora Bora and Wellington, but I’m getting used to it. MLE’s are en route for PH. I’ll set up a ‘sub mining centre’ in Palmyra. The South Dakota is now available in SF. [8D] Right now I don’t know what to do with the (7) available BBs I have.

mc3744 -> RE: Winning the war (9/19/2005 11:47:36 AM)
June 11th, 1942 INDIA-BURMA Since I had enough Spit’s I upgraded a (16) Lysander’s squadron at (79) exp. I wanted to wait for (80), but I guess (79) will do. For the rest same as usual. The heavies are back in DH and pounding oil and resources, which will soon be out. I’ll then put them on ground attack with the mediums. Right now I really stand a chance to re-open the Burma trail. CHINA Full retreat wherever I can. See picture. AUSTRALIA The movement is as slow as on the mountains!! It’s taking forever. [:@] This feature/bug may cost my offensive, he will have time to bring reinforcements from PI. I can’t believe it. [:@] [:@] PACIFIC The carriers are fishing. My transport convoy with the RCT I was taking to Christmas sank a Jap sub closing on Christmas. Immediately he sent the carriers North to get the potential convoy … Naughty boy, I expected the move and retreated the convoy at full speed. [;)] I have time and I have fuel, he has neither. [:'(] ---------------------------- The collapsing China front [image]local://upfiles/11282/3C8DC91D5CFE4B17A300048F7B86BB2F.jpg[/image]

mc3744 -> RE: Winning the war (9/20/2005 11:55:20 AM)
June 13th, 1942 INDIA-BURMA Bad weather is keeping many planes on the ground. CHINA The retreat continues. *AUSTRALIA* [:-] Apparently my troops are moving in a swamp, infested by mosquitoes and trolls and they are fighting their way through. They move 2-3 miles per day. I guess by winter time they may have moved one hex. This really sucks. [:@][:@][:@] PACIFIC Jap carriers have disappeared from the radar, I’m moving back to in to Christmas. In SF the BBs Maryland, California, Idaho and North Carolina, all radar equipped, are leaving for PH with an escort of destroyers and the CA Vincennes, CLAA Atlanta and CL Nashville. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The air pool so far. Not bad. Air losses are now 2.000:3.000 in my favour. [image]local://upfiles/11282/6D82EED2223A44D4B71FBD99DEADD1D1.jpg[/image]

mc3744 -> RE: Winning the war (9/20/2005 4:20:00 PM)
June 14th, 1942 INDIA-BURMA Heavy rains everywhere keep my planes down. The enemy has seen my second attack vector … good! [;)] CHINA The drama unfolds. AUSTRALIA [:-] Tropical storms over Alice keep my heavies down, those same storm are flooding the swamps around Daly and my men struggle in the water. And I thought Central Australia was desert like!! [sm=dizzy.gif] We are hoping for ice in winter, maybe we’ll be able to get through! [:o] PACIFIC Looks like Christmas will remain in Allied hands. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You can see how my best fighter pilots are all in the India-Burma theatre. Several are now above 70, but not enough. Training continues. [image]local://upfiles/11282/8971FB437FBE476E815294C175FB89B3.jpg[/image]

Kereguelen -> RE: Winning the war (9/20/2005 4:53:19 PM)
Interesting to notice that you converted some RAF Sqn to Wirraways. Training them up as fighter-bombers before reconverting to more useful planes? Your action at Daly Waters takes too much time. Terrain issue or just too high disruption? China: Unbelieveable, he should not be that strong but it seems that he's indeed able to attack wherever he wants. How is your supply level at Chungking and Kunming? Red? K

mc3744 -> RE: Winning the war (9/20/2005 6:46:48 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Kereguelen Interesting to notice that you converted some RAF Sqn to Wirraways. Training them up as fighter-bombers before reconverting to more useful planes? Your action at Daly Waters takes too much time. Terrain issue or just too high disruption? China: Unbelieveable, he should not be that strong but it seems that he's indeed able to attack wherever he wants. How is your supply level at Chungking and Kunming? Red? K Hi K [:)] It's easier and more convenient to train using Wirraway's. They have a longer range (than any other British fighter) and I don't waste more precious planes with training operational losses. Disruption and fatigue are still low, there's something wrong with the terrain. They move as if in the Burmense forest or Chinese mountains. Orange. I'm also really surpised by his strength, in no other game I have running the Japanese are able to attack on every front, and successfully!

mc3744 -> RE: Winning the war (9/21/2005 12:35:46 AM)
June 15th, 1942 INDIA-BURMA Last turn I spotted planes in Rangoon, I had no idea of the number and type, no info from the recon. I decided to take a risk. I sent all my heavies on airfield attack at 6.000 ft. At the end of the day it’s been very good. [8D] In the picture the air losses for today. He lost (52) planes vs. (25) of mine. (20) of which were Zero’s in air to air, (20) lost pilots! [:D] He is obviously bringing back air support for his ground units. I foresee several air battles in the near future. CHINA The retreat continues, so far no unit has been completely cut off. AUSTRALIA Nothing’s moving. I couldn’t be more pissed. [:-] [:@] PACIFIC The 24th US RCT is unloading in Christmas. A convoy with MLE, AS, AD, ML and an escort of DDs is heading for Palmyra, followed by subs. I’ll start mining Canton, Baker and the surrounding atolls. Let’s see how he likes it. [;)] ------------------- Air losses [image]local://upfiles/11282/ACFDF4EEA12842319544BB15BC8A09EE.jpg[/image]

mc3744 -> RE: Winning the war (9/21/2005 2:05:52 AM)
June 17th, 1942 Breakthrough in Burma INDIA-BURMA The Burma Corps, 18th UK Div and 254th UK Tank Bde ran across the fleeing units from Akyab in the hex SE of the town. I immediately ordered a shock attack and the Tank Bde managed to pursue the retreating units into Magwe. Now he has two useless units in Magwe, plus – I believe – a section of a division. I’m going to ground attack with every available bomber and I’ll go with a deliberate attack. If I get lucky and I take Magwe, he is in real trouble. I would immediately fly an Indian Brigade in. The Northern attack is incoming. And that’s the strong one! I may have gotten the first important breakthrough in the war. See picture. One (16) Buffalo’s squadron has reached (80) exp and has been upgraded to Hurricane’s (only 12 Spits were available). I’m so close to being able to really stand the ground with my fighters. CHINA In the picture the retreat paths. [image]local://upfiles/11282/5729708B75684224983779F82B15D16E.jpg[/image]

WhoCares -> RE: Winning the war (9/21/2005 10:35:08 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mc3744 June 15th, 1942 INDIA-BURMA Last turn I spotted planes in Rangoon, I had no idea of the number and type, no info from the recon. ... This is most likely due to a serious design flaw - the allied player already sees the japanese setup for the next day. [sm=nono.gif]

mc3744 -> RE: Winning the war (9/21/2005 12:19:43 PM)
Yep, I posted a few weeks ago on this. Apparently many think it's not too serious. The main explanation - as I understood it - is that the Allies would have more spies and local support than the Japanese, hence better intelligence.

AmiralLaurent -> RE: Winning the war (9/21/2005 3:17:10 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mc3744 Yep, I posted a few weeks ago on this. Apparently many think it's not too serious. The main explanation - as I understood it - is that the Allies would have more spies and local support than the Japanese, hence better intelligence. Except that it works also on Japan... The bug is not that the Allied shows the Japanese air units that just moved, it is that the game is showing an airfield symbol in every occupied enemy airfield, even if you never reconed it. Same for ports.

WhoCares -> RE: Winning the war (9/21/2005 3:55:41 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: AmiralLaurent ... Except that it works also on Japan... The bug is not that the Allied shows the Japanese air units that just moved, it is that the game is showing an airfield symbol in every occupied enemy airfield, even if you never reconed it. Same for ports. But with an important difference: the japanese see the allied composition from the last turn, but the allies see the japanese setup for the next day! So the japanese player must hope that the allied player does not redeploy his forces while the allied player can make his decisions with a fair knowledge of the japanese setup. Anyway, we will not solve it in this thread so we better leave it for the nice AAR [;)]

mc3744 -> RE: Winning the war (9/21/2005 5:07:25 PM)
June 18th, 1942 AIR WAR The combined strikes in India-Burma and Australia scored a 37:52 in my favour today. The air war is looking good! [:D] INDIA-BURMA The Tank Bde did not manage to conquer Magwe, it was worth trying though. Now a second section of the 55th Division has joined the Japanese forces. I’ll have to wait for the 18th UK Div and for the Northern attack to start. My air force keeps rocking. [8D] The first Spitfire equipped squadron – N0. 20 Squadron RAF –, while escorting bombers over Magwe, has been engaged by a superior number of Zero’s. They shot one down and damaged a second without suffering any loss. The scoring pilot has an experience of (81). The following wave of bombers from Chandpur, escorted by Kitty’s and P-40E’s, managed to shoot down several Zero’s with just a couple of losses. Eventually some satisfactions!! [:'(] CHINA Full retreat. Chungking supplies are in light orange. In Sining two stranded Chinese divisions have arrived and there are now (3), plus (2) Base Forces and full supplies. If I’ll manage to reopen the Burma trail …… AUSTRALIA I decided to go for a daylight strike over Daly, (33) airplanes destroyed on the ground. [;)] From now on I’ll use the heavies (as soon as they recover) for ground attack in support of the advancing units. I’ll have to switch target every day to avoid his LR CAP and, once in a while, I’ll hit the airfield again. More units are on their way to Alice and Daly. In the picture the actual depressing situation. I move 3-5 miles a day. PACIFIC The ocean is quiet and pacific. [:D] ---------------------------------- Operation Freedom [image]local://upfiles/11282/C840250B2E244F2F92D126C32D553B4D.jpg[/image]

Kereguelen -> RE: Winning the war (9/21/2005 5:28:44 PM)
Hi, Australia: No worries about his flanking unit (the one near the Gulf of Carpentaria)? Could become a problem if he manages to cut your supply lane with it! Maybe worth a bomber attack if you can spare any (at least you'll know then which kind of unit is at your flank). Burma: It's a pity that the assault of your tank brigade failed! How many days until 18th British Division and the forces from Imphal will arrive? K

mc3744 -> RE: Winning the war (9/21/2005 5:45:49 PM)
Hi K, *Australia* Judging from the speed, the flanking units has to be a Tank Rgt. I still have (3) Bde and (1) Tank Bn in reserve. And I can also recall any unit from Daly, he doesn't even know what's in there. If he tries to cut the way it shouldn't be too difficutl to kick him back with the air support I can get from Alice. Still your suggestion - as usual [:)] - makes sense. I'll bomb him a bit [:D], just to get to know him better. Burma It's going to take another couple of weeks. The 18th is now at (20) on (60). The Northern attack is at (30). I'll have to hold the position with the air support.

Kereguelen -> RE: Winning the war (9/21/2005 6:48:24 PM)
Australia: Maybe he'll even assume that you don't have enough reserves to counter his outflanking maneuver when you bomb him there[:D]. Burma: I'ld expect that he'ld move at least one division to Burma now because he cannot afford to loose there. But I fear that your troops move too slow to defeat him in Central Burma before he'll move some reinforcements to this front. Thus it may be a good idea to make a port attack on Rangoon with your heavies in the near future, should hamper his ability to unload reinforcements and kill off some supplies. In case you conquer an airfield in Central Burma: Make sure that you have one or two base forces ready to be flown in from Chandpur (and maybe an Indian or Chindit brigade). Chandpur is malaria-free and troops airlifted from there should be fresh. K

mc3744 -> RE: Winning the war (9/21/2005 11:11:37 PM)
A couple of due replies. Thanks WhoCares for the "nice AAR" [:D] Hey K, I'm not expecting to be able to win anything in Burma, just to draw more troops there and to pound them with my air force. At best to hit his air force too. As I'm doing right now. It's such a satisfaction to beat him in dog fighting [:'(] I'll think about the Rangoon port. I have a wolfpack of (5) subs just outside, maybe they can catch something.

mc3744 -> RE: Winning the war (9/21/2005 11:12:59 PM)
June 19th, 1942 INDIA-BURMA I checked the speed once again. It appears the units SE of Akyab are moving (1) mile per day. It’s going to take more than a month for the 18th UK Div to get to Magwe. The Northern attack is going at (2) miles per day. Hence they’ll be over the river in approx. (2) weeks. The Spit’s rock! Once again they engaged Zero’s over Magwe, 4:0 for the Spit’s!! [:D] [8D] One Buffalo’s squadron has hit (80) exp and has just been upgraded to Spitfire’s. For some reason the weather seems to affect more daylight flights than night time ones, hence I’ve switched several to night training. They fly more often. CHINA I tried to kick out the first two Japanese divisions arrived in Chungking … I got a 0:1 in my teeth. [X(] Last time I use the Chinese on the offensive. AUSTRALIA The surrounding Jap unit has disappeared, but I’m not too worried right now. I’m waiting to be able to attack Daly’ Eastern flank. PACIFIC Happily mining Christmas and surroundings and waiting for the July upgrades.

mc3744 -> RE: Winning the war (9/22/2005 1:04:40 PM)
June 21st, 1942 AIR WAR Today a nice 26:81! [8D] INDIA-BURMA Bad weather is hampering the air operations. Supplies are unloading in Akyab. Bombing Rangoon resources. It’s the closest base with any oil/resources left. Next one will be Moulmein. CHINA Japanese units arriving in Chunking keep shock attacking and loosing thousands of men. I find this rule really silly. [:-] After Sining has expanded to airfield (4), it has gotten his attention back. Which is good because I have plenty of supplies there and he has stopped bombing Lanchow where the supplies were much more critical. AUSTRALIA The airfield bombing has been great. (51) planes destroyed on the ground. [X(] In the picture Daly’s Eastern flank. I think I can take it. I’ll wait a couple of days to recover the heavies, bomb him a bit and then I’ll attack. Marines Para Bn are unloading in Townsville, they may come in handy for future operations. PACIFIC Suva has eventually fallen, they sure did put up a great fight. I’m betting he is not going any further, too many open fronts for him now. -------------------------------- Operation Freedom [image]local://upfiles/11282/494DB48A0D8E4A74854A8718A904267D.jpg[/image]

mc3744 -> RE: Winning the war (9/22/2005 11:38:04 PM)
June 23rd, 1942 INDIA-BURMA Nothing new. CHINA He is trying to cut my retreat NW of Pakhoi. It may be a big loss. AUSTRALIA The flanking unit was indeed a Tank Regiment, the 8th. In the picture some of my heavies merrily bombing it. The Australian Cav Div is going to intercept them. I’ll bomb them into little tiny pieces! [sm=00000106.gif] PACIFIC As usual. [image]local://upfiles/11282/9779F7FF244B49C9BC0E05D13C8A6B66.jpg[/image]

mc3744 -> Bug (9/23/2005 12:52:46 AM)
We've hit a bug. My leading Indian Division appear to have crossed the river NE of Mandalay. However: 1) no shock attack on crossing 2) hex is still considered Japanese only 3) if I click on the unit I'm brought back to the starting hex 4) if I move the unit, it considers the starting hex as the starting point That division, beside her hundreds assault points, was the one the others were following. My whole Burma offensive may be screwed by this bug [:@][:@][:@] I'll have to wait and see what happens, but I'm really worried. Such a bug could mean a serious blow to the whole game. It would be totally altered. [:-]

Terminus -> RE: Bug (9/23/2005 12:55:46 AM)
Are you using 1.6 or 1.602?

AmiralLaurent -> RE: Bug (9/23/2005 12:57:19 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mc3744 We've hit a bug. My leading Indian Division appear to have crossed the river NE of Mandalay. However: 1) no shock attack on crossing 2) hex is still considered Japanese only 3) if I click on the unit I'm brought back to the starting hex 4) if I move the unit, it considers the starting hex as the starting point That division, beside her hundreds assault points, was the one the others were following. My whole Burma offensive may be screwed by this bug [:@][:@][:@] I'll have to wait and see what happens, but I'm really worried. Such a bug could mean a serious blow to the whole game. It would be totally altered. [:-] This is the bug the v1.602 version of the game is correcting. You may come back one day, upgrade and redo the turn. It works for me.

mc3744 -> RE: Bug (9/23/2005 1:00:41 AM)
1.60

Terminus -> RE: Bug (9/23/2005 1:02:14 AM)
You've been struck by the Follow All bug, which was fixed in 1.602. It's been so long since it happened to me, that I've forgotten how to resolve it, because it CAN be resolved. Anyone else?

mc3744 -> RE: Bug (9/23/2005 1:04:07 AM)
Thanks guys [&o], I'm discussing with GH. We do one more turn, if it is still screwed, we'll try going back, upgrading ad re-doing.

Terminus -> RE: Bug (9/23/2005 1:05:07 AM)
I can 99.99% guarantee you that it will remain screwed.

AmiralLaurent -> RE: Bug (9/23/2005 1:06:22 AM)
I think your unit is gone, continuing won't restore it. ALso AFAIK upgrading games from v1.6 to v1.602 won't make units disappear, as upgrading games from v1.5 to v1.6 do.

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