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Oleg Mastruko -> Minor, nitpicky, evil geographical remark (7/2/2005 5:16:40 AM)

Corfu on the map is not Corfu - it's island of Keffalonia. Corfu is the island north of it, very much near the Albania coast... though I don't think this has any repercussions on the gameplay.

Here I just had to say it [sm=00000622.gif]

O.




Hertston -> RE: Minor, nitpicky, evil geographical remark (7/2/2005 7:42:16 AM)

On a related subject, and being nitpicky indeed [;)] , I thought "Kent" as the name for the whole of southern England was a bit weird too (Kent proper is the bit in the SE corner, BTW). A much better choice would have been "Wessex", which while out of its historical context is at least a lot more geographically accurate.




Arsan -> RE: Minor, nitpicky, evil geographical remark (7/2/2005 11:17:44 AM)

Hey, you both are really nitpickers!! [;)]
Have you take a look at the Iberian Peninsula???
Its that strange looking thing just south of France...
Spain its weird but Portugal... its awfull!!
Why can't the map be a little wider so the western and easter borders don't look so compressed?? [&:][&:]




Baron Hendrik -> RE: Minor, nitpicky, evil geographical remark (7/2/2005 11:52:07 AM)

Its just an old style, like maps were in this time. I personally like it and in my opinion it brings a good atmosphere in the game.




Arsan -> RE: Minor, nitpicky, evil geographical remark (7/2/2005 1:09:22 PM)

I love the old-style-hand-drawn look of the map, dont get me wrong!
Itīs the shape of the Iberian Peninsula or the eastern border (Turkey...) of the map what i'm talking about.

Anyway, this isn't a meidieval game. XIX century maps were very preceise and exact. Maybe not the ones about Africa or Asia but Europe was perfectly charted by then. I dont think this was an intended effect, really.
I suspect the reason is to be able to fit all the map in the square minimap area on the lower right corner.

Maybe this issue could be modable... What about a Panavision map??[:)]




Mr. Z -> RE: Minor, nitpicky, evil geographical remark (7/2/2005 5:38:29 PM)


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Have you take a look at the Iberian Peninsula???
Its that strange looking thing just south of France...
Spain its weird but Portugal... its awfull!!
Why can't the map be a little wider so the western and easter borders don't look so compressed?? [&:][&:]

The map is distorted at the edges in order to fit all of Europe into the space with a miniumum of empty areas (northern Russia, North Atlantic, etc.)




Naomi -> RE: Minor, nitpicky, evil geographical remark (7/2/2005 5:46:11 PM)

In addition to geographical exactness, I vote for improved graphics (some icons, mouse cursors and pop-up menus w/ room for improvement).




SLTxDarkknight -> RE: Minor, nitpicky, evil geographical remark (7/2/2005 6:34:58 PM)

[8|] talk about a sniper[:D]




bluemonday -> RE: Minor, nitpicky, evil geographical remark (7/2/2005 7:05:57 PM)

Fix the Polish flag!




pixelpusher -> RE: Minor, nitpicky, evil geographical remark (7/5/2005 2:15:59 AM)

quote:

Itīs the shape of the Iberian Peninsula or the eastern border (Turkey...) of the map what i'm talking about.

Anyway, this isn't a meidieval game. XIX century maps were very preceise and exact. Maybe not the ones about Africa or Asia but Europe was perfectly charted by then. I dont think this was an intended effect, really.
I suspect the reason is to be able to fit all the map in the square minimap area on the lower right corner.


Mr. Z is exactly correct, but allow me to expand a bit;

The map has a lot of memory overhead, so it's important to get the most out of it. The map is a lambert conical projection based on modern maps, but it's distorted to expand the middle; ie central europe where most of the napoleonic action happend. Sort of like a fisheye effect centered on the centered roughly on Vienna. It's rotated slightly from true north to allow the British Isles, North Africa and the Med into a better rectangular shape. Otherwise there would be really large empty quarters of the map, esp. off the north atlantic and in Russia. Even as it is, there are still some big empty spaces (n.w. africa / sahara). Downside it that the corners get squished.

So it's an intentional effect, but meant to improve the historic gameplay, not the flavor / innacuracies of the maps of the day.




kerguelen -> RE: Minor, nitpicky, evil geographical remark (7/5/2005 3:09:18 AM)

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centered roughly on Vienna


BTW Vienna is not in Styria! [;)]




LaVean -> RE: Minor, nitpicky, evil geographical remark (7/5/2005 5:20:15 AM)

BTW the French are the ones that created Tunisa...but that won't be for another 70 years or so.




YohanTM2 -> RE: Minor, nitpicky, evil geographical remark (7/5/2005 5:52:37 AM)

Way to start something Oleg <eg>




Smiffus64 -> RE: Minor, nitpicky, evil geographical remark (7/5/2005 9:37:33 AM)

Don't get me started on the whole Batavia thing..

Ok, I will, the Batavian Republic was the name for the united provinces (the Netherlands) during the french occupation.




Mr. Z -> RE: Minor, nitpicky, evil geographical remark (7/5/2005 4:39:38 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Smiffus64

Don't get me started on the whole Batavia thing..

Ok, I will, the Batavian Republic was the name for the united provinces (the Netherlands) during the french occupation.

The province names can't really be changed from scenario to scenario. Hence we had to pick one or the other. Since 1805 is the default scenario, "Batavia" seemed like an appropriate name for the province.




Mr. Z -> RE: Minor, nitpicky, evil geographical remark (7/5/2005 4:40:39 PM)


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ORIGINAL: LaVean

BTW the French are the ones that created Tunisa...but that won't be for another 70 years or so.

Tunis, Tunisia, what's the difference [;)]




Mr. Z -> RE: Minor, nitpicky, evil geographical remark (7/5/2005 4:44:20 PM)


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ORIGINAL: kerguelen

quote:

centered roughly on Vienna


BTW Vienna is not in Styria! [;)]

It's a complicated matter. The short answer is, we know [;)]




Becket -> RE: Minor, nitpicky, evil geographical remark (7/5/2005 5:05:58 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Yohan

Way to start something Oleg <eg>


Yes, good show O.

[&o]




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