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Freedom205 -> Do Mega Campaigns work with 8.4? (7/12/2005 5:53:20 PM)
Dumb question guys, I havnt played SpWaW for quite awhile, but am thinking of playing a bit more. Would my old Mega campaigns work fine?

Terminus -> RE: Do Mega Campaigns work with 8.4? (7/12/2005 6:15:56 PM)
Desert Fox and Screaming Eagles work just fine for me after I updated to 8.4. I say go for it!

Beetlecat -> RE: Do Mega Campaigns work with 8.4? (7/14/2005 4:50:31 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Mike Hall Dumb question guys, I havnt played SpWaW for quite awhile, but am thinking of playing a bit more. Would my old Mega campaigns work fine? I've posted an issue I had with my MC's crashing when turning on Command & Control, but it's being looked at at the moment. I'm curious if anyone else can replicate that behavior. Before you patch to 8.4, make a copy of your SPW@W folder as a backup (it's easier than re-installing...) :) Otherwise, if you don't use Command & Control, patch away! :)

johnhulten -> RE: Do Mega Campaigns work with 8.4? (7/14/2005 7:32:11 PM)
I've had the same problemwith crashes in MC using 8.4 with CC on. Glad they are looking into it.

slyone -> RE: Do Mega Campaigns work with 8.4? (7/14/2005 11:54:55 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Beetlecat quote: ORIGINAL: Mike Hall Dumb question guys, I havnt played SpWaW for quite awhile, but am thinking of playing a bit more. Would my old Mega campaigns work fine? I've posted an issue I had with my MC's crashing when turning on Command & Control, but it's being looked at at the moment. I'm curious if anyone else can replicate that behavior. Before you patch to 8.4, make a copy of your SPW@W folder as a backup (it's easier than re-installing...) :) Otherwise, if you don't use Command & Control, patch away! :) I'm having the same problem with Command & Control on.

Procrustes -> RE: Do Mega Campaigns work with 8.4? (7/24/2005 12:20:38 PM)
I get a crash-to-desktop every time I try to use the MC's with C&C now that I have installed 8.4. Works great if I turn off C&C, crashes if I don't. I'm about to delete and start over. Does'nt seems like there is much to "look into" - hope this can be fixed relatively soon. Best,

johnhulten -> RE: Do Mega Campaigns work with 8.4? (7/24/2005 3:22:43 PM)
Concerning the problem of the crash to desktop using 8.4, Mega Campaigns and Command Control, to remedy the problem [&o] is it possible to continue a Mega Campaign in progress by reinstalling SPWAW Generals Edition 8.3, and then copying the save game folder from the 8.4 version to the 8.3 version?

Wild Bill -> RE: Do Mega Campaigns work with 8.4? (7/25/2005 8:26:14 AM)
I have not tried it, but I don't think it should be a problem, John. WB

Alby -> RE: Do Mega Campaigns work with 8.4? (7/25/2005 9:17:25 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Procrustes I get a crash-to-desktop every time I try to use the MC's with C&C now that I have installed 8.4. Works great if I turn off C&C, crashes if I don't. I'm about to delete and start over. Does'nt seems like there is much to "look into" - hope this can be fixed relatively soon. Best, I imagine.."look into" means....try to find out what could possibly cause this to happen... then fix it. [:)]

Procrustes -> RE: Do Mega Campaigns work with 8.4? (7/27/2005 5:40:09 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Alby quote: ORIGINAL: Procrustes I get a crash-to-desktop every time I try to use the MC's with C&C now that I have installed 8.4. Works great if I turn off C&C, crashes if I don't. I'm about to delete and start over. Does'nt seems like there is much to "look into" - hope this can be fixed relatively soon. Best, I imagine.."look into" means....try to find out what could possibly cause this to happen... then fix it. [:)] What I'm suggesting is that this appears to be a universal problem that should be acknowledged, not seqestered on a back forum page. [:)] I mean, perhaps I'm mistaken but I got the impression that no-one has found that C&C still works with v8.4, right? Why not take the patch off-line, or at least put a big warning on the download page that it causes trouble with C&C? C&C is a major component of the game - we're encouraged to use it and those of us that do find that it changes the game considerably. It was quite a bummer to find it broken - I'd much rather have C&C than the other things the patch was purported to fix. Best,

slyone -> RE: Do Mega Campaigns work with 8.4? (7/27/2005 12:25:55 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Procrustes quote: ORIGINAL: Alby quote: ORIGINAL: Procrustes I get a crash-to-desktop every time I try to use the MC's with C&C now that I have installed 8.4. Works great if I turn off C&C, crashes if I don't. I'm about to delete and start over. Does'nt seems like there is much to "look into" - hope this can be fixed relatively soon. Best, I imagine.."look into" means....try to find out what could possibly cause this to happen... then fix it. [:)] What I'm suggesting is that this appears to be a universal problem that should be acknowledged, not seqestered on a back forum page. [:)] I mean, perhaps I'm mistaken but I got the impression that no-one has found that C&C still works with v8.4, right? Why not take the patch off-line, or at least put a big warning on the download page that it causes trouble with C&C? C&C is a major component of the game - we're encouraged to use it and those of us that do find that it changes the game considerably. It was quite a bummer to find it broken - I'd much rather have C&C than the other things the patch was purported to fix. Best, I completely agree!

Alby -> RE: Do Mega Campaigns work with 8.4? (7/28/2005 1:30:34 AM)
well since Mike Wood did nothing to the Mega Campaigns in the 8.4 patch. he was unaware anything was wrong. He said he is addressing the issue... Im sure it will be corrected in next patch.

Procrustes -> RE: Do Mega Campaigns work with 8.4? (7/28/2005 5:44:43 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Alby well since Mike Wood did nothing to the Mega Campaigns in the 8.4 patch. he was unaware anything was wrong. He said he is addressing the issue... Im sure it will be corrected in next patch. The mech.exe was modified, and the mech.exe runs the megacampagns [:)]. I'm stunned that no one thought to run a megacamp scenario with the patch before releasing it, but everyone makes mistakes. I'm (kinda) sure it will be fixed in the next patch, too - but given the way things work I'm just not so sure that we will see it anytime soon. I'm still assuming that this problem is pretty universal, since no one has come forward to say that C&C still works after the patch - am I right? If so, it seems reasonable to suggest that in the meantime either the patch is taken down or a big flag warning people about this bug is posted with it. I'm glad this isn't a problem for you, Alby - but I feel like you are "poo-pooing" the problem for those of us that happen to like C&C and who spend more time playing the MC's than the other parts of the game. [:)] To me this was a really big deal - I'm working out-of-town, stuck in a hotel nights and now my game is dead until I can get back home and re-install it. Thank god for Medieval Total War! [;)] Best wishes, Procrustes

Alby -> RE: Do Mega Campaigns work with 8.4? (7/28/2005 10:36:38 PM)
Not poo pooing at all...I'm just stating that nothing really can be done by me or anyone except for Mike Wood. ActuaLLY , probably only Erik Rutins or Alex Fiedler, can actually post a warning, have you contacted them? there may be others, but those are the ones I know of. Can you not have someone emaoil you the 8.3 mech.exe?? that way you could still play the game. A mistake looks like it has been made, but asking who or why doesnt help get the patch out. [:)] As far as my testing has showed...this only happens in the mega campaigns...c and c works in regular battles....am I correct?

Procrustes -> RE: Do Mega Campaigns work with 8.4? (7/29/2005 6:54:54 AM)
Hi Alby, Actually, I never asked "who or why" - I really don't care and I don't know anyone at Matrix etc. You were the one who has been dropping names. What I asked was whether the problem w/ C&C and the MC's was universal or not - I get the impression it is. What I suggested is that if it is universal that someone at Matrix would have acknowledged this publicly. Whether they do or not now is irrelevant to me, since I already got "bit by the bug". SPWAW is a free game - Matrix only makes money of the MC's. Therefore it would seem prudent to protect their interests by stopping other folks from ending up like I did. C'est la vie. I've said my piece, I'll go back to lurking now. Best to everyone, P. (Sorry - forgot to answer your last question. Yes, C&C still works for me with the regular scenarios - I just don't like to play them. Most were designed to be played w/ C&C off - and they really suck when you try to turn it on. Also, I've played them out - I'd rather keep going with my different MC's when I can. I have the option of playing a different game in the meantime.)

slyone -> RE: Do Mega Campaigns work with 8.4? (7/29/2005 5:50:53 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Alby Not poo pooing at all...I'm just stating that nothing really can be done by me or anyone except for Mike Wood. ActuaLLY , probably only Erik Rutins or Alex Fiedler, can actually post a warning, have you contacted them? there may be others, but those are the ones I know of. Can you not have someone emaoil you the 8.3 mech.exe?? that way you could still play the game. A mistake looks like it has been made, but asking who or why doesnt help get the patch out. [:)] As far as my testing has showed...this only happens in the mega campaigns...c and c works in regular battles....am I correct? Is actually replacing mech.exe with the one from v8.3 solving the problem?

Alby -> RE: Do Mega Campaigns work with 8.4? (7/30/2005 12:45:33 AM)
If they worked with the 8.3 mech then it should...I have not tried it tho....Not sure I stil have the 8.3 mech.

Alby -> RE: Do Mega Campaigns work with 8.4? (7/30/2005 9:05:12 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Procrustes Hi Alby, Actually, I never asked "who or why" - I really don't care and I don't know anyone at Matrix etc. You were the one who has been dropping names. What I asked was whether the problem w/ C&C and the MC's was universal or not - I get the impression it is. What I suggested is that if it is universal that someone at Matrix would have acknowledged this publicly. Whether they do or not now is irrelevant to me, since I already got "bit by the bug". SPWAW is a free game - Matrix only makes money of the MC's. Therefore it would seem prudent to protect their interests by stopping other folks from ending up like I did. C'est la vie. I've said my piece, I'll go back to lurking now. Best to everyone, P. (Sorry - forgot to answer your last question. Yes, C&C still works for me with the regular scenarios - I just don't like to play them. Most were designed to be played w/ C&C off - and they really suck when you try to turn it on. Also, I've played them out - I'd rather keep going with my different MC's when I can. I have the option of playing a different game in the meantime.) Erik and Alex are admins here at Matrix....people who would have the ability to post messages on download pages...

Procrustes -> RE: Do Mega Campaigns work with 8.4? (8/1/2005 4:36:21 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: slyone Is actually replacing mech.exe with the one from v8.3 solving the problem? I'm not sure, but I think that re-installing the previous version might be safer than just copying the old mech.exe over - just so you don't end up with some new, odd OOB incompatability or something. Just a guess....

Alby -> RE: Do Mega Campaigns work with 8.4? (8/2/2005 6:02:23 AM)
Nothing was chnaged in the oobs you can put 8.3 mech back in until patch is released..no problem

Procrustes -> RE: Do Mega Campaigns work with 8.4? (8/2/2005 5:15:53 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Alby Nothing was chnaged in the oobs you can put 8.3 mech back in until patch is released..no problem Thanks for the info!

RUPD3658 -> RE: Do Mega Campaigns work with 8.4? (8/9/2005 3:06:36 AM)
Biggest change I have noticed in MCLV under 8.4 is that KV tanks can be destroyed much easier. It used to take 30-40 hits from 50mm at range 1 on a side/rear shot to disable a KV under 8.3. Now after 20-30 hits I am getting a kill! I even had one destroyed at range 2 by a side shot from a 20mm ACPR round. [X(] Definitly makes the game easier.

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