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Big B -> RE: Maybe OT--Greatest Leader Ever (7/21/2005 10:49:57 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Terminus

Hail, Hail, Freedonia, Land of the Brave and Free!!![:D]

"Those are my principles, and if you don't like them... well, I have others."
- Rufus T. Firefly




Marc von Martial -> RE: Maybe OT--Greatest Leader Ever (7/22/2005 12:10:04 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Terminus

Of course, he couldn't have done it without his opposite German number, quite possible one of the worst military leaders ever:



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My vote for the "best" [:D]

I type this while looking at the Hogans Heroes Action figures [;)]




RBWhite -> RE: Maybe OT--Greatest Leader Ever (7/22/2005 12:17:42 AM)

Col. John "Hanabal" Smith




jchastain -> RE: Maybe OT--Greatest Leader Ever (7/22/2005 12:19:23 AM)

Surely this board has not forgotten the leader we all worshipped in our youth... Col. Wilma Deering!

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Terminus -> RE: Maybe OT--Greatest Leader Ever (7/22/2005 12:35:16 AM)

HamanaHamanaHamanaHamanaHamanaHamana!!![sm=00000280.gif]




RBWhite -> RE: Maybe OT--Greatest Leader Ever (7/22/2005 1:43:18 AM)

Well, I wasn't that young when Col. Deering was around.

I will say she is the finest looking Col. I've ever ran into




Terminus -> RE: Maybe OT--Greatest Leader Ever (7/22/2005 1:46:02 AM)

And that uniform... Wasn't standard attire for a colonel in any military force I've ever heard of!




rogueusmc -> RE: Maybe OT--Greatest Leader Ever (7/22/2005 2:32:14 AM)

You are forgetting that cute little skirt thingy she wore when they changed formats and started exploring space


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RBWhite -> RE: Maybe OT--Greatest Leader Ever (7/22/2005 2:44:46 AM)

I don't know about some of you guys having all these old television stars pictures at the ready seems a little odd[sm=00000280.gif]




Monter_Trismegistos -> RE: Maybe OT--Greatest Leader Ever (7/22/2005 2:49:04 AM)

Greatest leader?

Jan Karol Chodkiewicz - for slaughtering 3 times bigger Swedish army at Kircholm 1605.




jchastain -> RE: Maybe OT--Greatest Leader Ever (7/22/2005 2:49:47 AM)

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ORIGINAL: RBWhite

I don't know about some of you guys having all these old television stars pictures at the ready seems a little odd[sm=00000280.gif]


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KG Erwin -> RE: Maybe OT--Greatest Leader Ever (7/22/2005 3:12:02 AM)

Without a doubt, THIS guy [:D]:

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Big B -> RE: Maybe OT--Greatest Leader Ever (7/22/2005 7:00:12 AM)

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ORIGINAL: KG Erwin

Without a doubt, THIS guy [:D]:

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Hmm,
Another heavy hitter...and HE always got the girl!




ilovestrategy -> RE: Maybe OT--Greatest Leader Ever (7/22/2005 8:04:06 AM)

I know this guy isn't the greatest but he is my favorite. Julius Ceasar. the dude simply rocked. Anyone that can lay a seige and fight off every barbarian in the area at the same time while getting votes in Rome deserves a little recogniton. He may not be the best but damn he was good. He would have been pissed though if he would have known that Government buildings would have metal detectors someday [sm=00000280.gif][sm=00000280.gif][sm=00000280.gif][sm=00000280.gif][sm=00000280.gif]




Rainerle -> RE: Maybe OT--Greatest Leader Ever (7/22/2005 10:26:15 AM)

Stop playing with the knife, Brutus !!! [:D]




Zakhal -> RE: Maybe OT--Greatest Leader Ever (7/22/2005 11:03:25 AM)

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C.G.E Mannerheim

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C.G.E Mannerheim.

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Coat-of-arms of the Mannerheim family of barons.

*Spoke six languages: Swedish, Finnish, Russian, French, German and English.

*Served 30 years in the Imperial Russian army.

*Fought in the Russo-Japanese war as a junior officer of a dragoon regiment 1904-1905.

*Lead a "scientific expedition" to china and asia in 1906.
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*Appointed commander of the Uhlan Regiment of the Life Guard of his Majesty the Emperor.

*Nominated "a general in the imperial entourage".

*Fought in ww1.

*Serving in the ranks of the 4th Army in 1914, his actions in the defence battle of Krasnik earned him the Sword of St George.
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*Awarded the 4th class decoration of the Order of St George on the 18th of December, 1914, for his merits of commanding his brigade with excellent skill and bravery when guarding the flank of the sniper brigade of the Guard.

*In October and November 1914, Mannerheim’s brigade participated, in the ranks of the 9th Army, in the battles of Ivangorod, Tsharnyjlas-Zvolja, Politshna, Zvolen, Kutshk, Gezin, Leshtshiny, Komork, Piotrkovits, Pintshov, Hraberzh, Pomovits, Vavrzhentshits and Krakov.

*From 18 February, 1915, Mannerheim commanded the 12th Cavalry Division, consisting of Ahtyr Hussar Regiment, Belgorod Uhlan Regiment, Starodubov Dragoon Regiment, Orenburg Cossack Regiment, and some Don and Turkestan mountain batteries. He distinguished in the battle of Opolje in August and September 1915, and served as the acting commander of the second Cavalry Corps on several occasions in 1915. During the defensive battle the division was stationed in Fundul-Moldav in May and June 1917.

*Commanded a large Russo-Rumanian group Wrancza on the Rumanian front in the Carpathian Mountains from 11 December, 1916, till 7 January, 1917 and participated in six battles.

*Appointed commander of the 6th Cavalry Corps on the 12th of June 1917, and participated in its ranks, in the battles on the Rumanian front in July and August, 1917.

*Fought and won in the independence war as a white general.

*Internationally respected military leader. Even in Russia today there is a growing interest toward him.

*Had his own flag day.

*Succeeded in uniting the nation in a courageous battle against the enemy far superior in force.

*Received thank-you letters from the russian prisoners of war.

*Refused to actively participate in the siege of Leningrad.

*Was able to fight a truce and armistice from the allies.

Military Ranks

Non-commissioned officer, July 7, 1888
Cornet, August 8, 1889
Cornet of the Guard, July 27, 1891
Lieutenant of the Guard, August 30, 1893
Subaltern Cavalry Captain of the Guard, July 22, 1899
Cavalry Captain of the Guard, December 6, 1902
Lieutenant Colonel, October 7, 1904
Colonel, November 29, 1905
Major General, February 13, 1911 (returned to the rank of officer of
the Guard, December 24, 1913)
Lieutenant General, April 25, 1917
General of Cavalry, March 7, 1918
Field Marshal, May 19, 1933 (in connection with the 15th
anniversary of the end of the War of Independence)
The title of Marshal of Finland on his 75th birthday, June 4, 1942

*Laid to rest with military honors 1951.

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The birthday celebration of Mannerheim 1942 aroused attention abroad, when the leader of Germany, Adolf Hitler, paid homage to him and appeared among his numerous congratulants. From the Soviet point of view, Mannerheim symbolized the anti-Soviet attitudes of the Finns. Nevertheless, even Stalin admitted that Finland and the Finns, under the leadership of Mannerheim, had emerged from the war with credit.


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Marshalls meet

Hermann Göring, a pilot of the First World War, spent the 1920s in Sweden. There he married Karin Kantzow, whose sister was married to Count Eric von Rosen, the person who had donated the first aeroplane to the Finnish air force. Göring adored his wife and had a hunting palace built for her, which he named Karinhall. Mannerheim visited the palace on his hunting expeditions.

During Hitler’s reign, Göring held different posts, he was, e.g., Prime Minister of Prussia, Commander of the Air Force and the leader of the Four-year Plan. While chairman of the Defence Council, Mannerheim was invited by Göring to familiarize himself with German aircraft industry in September 1935. Later on this acquaintance proved useful. Through Eric von Rosen’s mediation Mannerheim was made aware of Göring’s impressions of the development of world politics from the German point of view. In the course of the Second World War, Göring’s personal influence in Germany diminished.




Big B -> RE: Maybe OT--Greatest Leader Ever (7/23/2005 12:09:58 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Zakhal

...C.G.E Mannerheim
snip..

Yes, but how many years did his TV Show run?[:D]




jchastain -> RE: Maybe OT--Greatest Leader Ever (7/23/2005 12:17:02 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Big B

Yes, but how many years did his TV Show run?[:D]


Careful there BB. If that is the rationale we are using, then the list would have to include...


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Big B -> RE: Maybe OT--Greatest Leader Ever (7/23/2005 12:19:37 AM)


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ORIGINAL: jchastain

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ORIGINAL: Big B

Yes, but how many years did his TV Show run?[:D]


Careful there BB. If that is the rationale we are using, then the list would have to include...


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lol who the heck was that!?




jchastain -> RE: Maybe OT--Greatest Leader Ever (7/23/2005 12:22:39 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Big B

lol who the heck was that!?


Corporal Max Klinger from one of the longest running TV shows of all time, M*A*S*H




Big B -> RE: Maybe OT--Greatest Leader Ever (7/23/2005 12:34:30 AM)


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ORIGINAL: jchastain


Corporal Max Klinger from one of the longest running TV shows of all time, M*A*S*H

Ok, he looked familiar...and he did always wear dresses. For the life of me I didn't recognize him as Lady Liberty!




jchastain -> RE: Maybe OT--Greatest Leader Ever (7/23/2005 12:38:26 AM)

Was from an episode where McArthur was coming through for a visit. Mac just ended up driving through the camp and by the road, there was Klinger as lady liberty herself. A rather obscure reference to be sure but the picture just seemed especially appropriate for a discussion of great military leaders.




ilovestrategy -> RE: Maybe OT--Greatest Leader Ever (7/23/2005 5:58:21 AM)

Klinger was just too cool. I was laughing hard when I first saw that episode in 72. 1972? wow, that was along time ago [X(]




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