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Kereguelen -> RE: Question for Mike Wood regarding 4E and 2E level bomber attacks... (10/6/2005 12:53:38 PM)
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ORIGINAL: mullk Let's ban all Allied 2E and 4E bombers! According to folks here 10,000 should just be able to raise a dust cloud over their target. [8|] I think the real problem that people have here is that Allied bombers were never used in bunches of more than 50-70 planes (except for the B-29 raids) but in the game, the Allies can get that many 4E bombers going by January or February of 1942. Hi, the biggest raid against Rabaul was flown by 87 B-24's, 114 B-25's, 14 Beaufighters, and 125 P-38's (just as example for a big Allied raid before the arrival of the B-29; and there were many more big raids), but this was in 1943. Thus you're only partly right with your statement. But you're certainly right with your statement that such raids were not flown in early 1942 (and maybe even in the whole year 1942). But players tend to use what is available to them. This is the same for both Japanese and Allied players, I've seen (in AAR's) and suffered from (in own PBEM) large Japanese raids involving 350+ Sallies in 1942. I'm quite sure that the Japanese never launched raids involving that many planes (certainly not in 1942, Marianas, Okinawa and other late-war battles were fought under different conditions for both sides). And big Sally raids ostensibly do some damage! And now, what should be the conclusion from this? Do we have a problem (only) with the efficiency of Allied heavy bombers in this regard? IMHO the problem rather seems to come from the ability of players' to employ very large strikes early in the game. It is simply too easy to concentrate and support large amounts of planes and then launch large air strikes. This ability comes from two features of the game: The abundance of aviation support and the way, airfields are handled (too many planes are able to launch from medium sized airbases, AF sizes 5-7). Somewhat related to this seems to be that flak as a deterrend for raids seems to be underrated in the game. In short: By further reducing the capabilities of Allied heavy bombers we'll not adress the true problem. Other problems seem to be the results of port attacks and night-bombing by heavies, but that's a different topic. K
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