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Greyshaft -> RE: What is the Ugliest Aircraft of All Time? (10/14/2005 12:31:27 AM)


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ORIGINAL: RevRick

I've always been fond of the following

[image]local://upfiles/1228/D8062BC4E5BF4C85B98E5AB578C487CF.jpg[/image]


Yup. I sit corrected. This is not a Defiant. But while I'm here eating humble pie, is it my imagination or is this plane missing its canopy? There seem to be guide rails behind the cockpit to hold the canopy but the dang canopy just ain't there.



Terminus -> RE: What is the Ugliest Aircraft of All Time? (10/14/2005 12:35:22 AM)

Part of the Roc's (and the Defiant's, for that matter) upper fuselage retracted to allow the gun turret to rotate fully. The three aircraft pictured all have different settings displayed for the camera.



warhead2 -> RE: What is the Ugliest Aircraft of All Time? (10/16/2005 8:30:34 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Greyshaft


quote:

ORIGINAL: RevRick

I've always been fond of the following

[image]local://upfiles/1228/D8062BC4E5BF4C85B98E5AB578C487CF.jpg[/image]

Actually I like the Defiant also... but I can't figure out why the closest one has a bent starboard wing [&:]
it's the negro pilot,a black thang



invernomuto -> RE: What is the Ugliest Aircraft of All Time? (10/17/2005 12:15:02 AM)

Here is my vote...

[image]local://upfiles/14274/2384642013094284AD4520E3BBCABAD4.jpg[/image]



stevemk1a -> RE: What is the Ugliest Aircraft of All Time? (10/17/2005 2:00:48 AM)

Actually, that last one's kinda purdy ... [:)]



DandricSturm -> RE: What is the Ugliest Aircraft of All Time? (10/17/2005 2:14:33 AM)

R-4B


[image]local://upfiles/17653/6B2BABC7089E4A84896EA70AE58A2E56.gif[/image]
Probably looked pretty good to the 3 British soldiers and the pilot of the L-1 shot down 100 miles behind enemy lines when Lt. Carter Harmon, preparing the way for the Jolly Green Giants, performed the first helicopter rescue mission on Apr 25-26, 1944



Cap Mandrake -> RE: What is the Ugliest Aircraft of All Time? (10/17/2005 5:32:30 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Terminus

The Blackburn Roc (pictured above) and the Blackburn Skua were both Royal Navy Fleet Air Arm aircraft. The Boulton Paul Defiant was a RAF aircraft, and actually quite attractive considering the gun turret.


Good point, and this guy was a real looker except for his nose


[img]http://www.hollywoodlegends.com/images/durante.gif[/img]

Re. the Defiant, I think it is a mixture of discordant design elements and just plain stupid engineering decisions. It is UGLY!

That French bomber is incomprehensibly ugly. It looks liek a boy scout troop put together some corrugated roofing with leftovers from a backyard greenhouse kit. I doubt the LSD theory. Timothy Leary could ahve done better than that.



Puukkoo -> RE: What is the Ugliest Aircraft of All Time? (10/17/2005 2:51:23 PM)

This plane looks actually rather beautiful among those certain ones


[image]local://upfiles/17444/2B71E97042FF496AAF53332BA5CE63C5.jpg[/image]



oi_you_nutter -> RE: What is the Ugliest Aircraft of All Time? (10/17/2005 5:15:14 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Puukkoo

This plane looks actually rather beautiful among those certain ones


[image]local://upfiles/17444/2B71E97042FF496AAF53332BA5CE63C5.jpg[/image]


i would have to agree, it has sleek lines



oi_you_nutter -> RE: What is the Ugliest Aircraft of All Time? (10/17/2005 5:16:26 PM)

Handley Page Heyford

this is what happens when the production people have the design drawing upside down

[image]http://www.rafmuseum.org.uk/london/exhibitions/not-quite-extinct/images/PC74-41-97.jpg[/image]



Cap Mandrake -> RE: What is the Ugliest Aircraft of All Time? (10/17/2005 5:28:54 PM)

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ORIGINAL: oi_you_nutter

Handley Page Heyford

this is what happens when the production people have the design drawing upside down

[image]http://www.rafmuseum.org.uk/london/exhibitions/not-quite-extinct/images/PC74-41-97.jpg[/image]


Good Lord! The guys on the production line shold have refused to build it, or at least stopped after the first one.



oi_you_nutter -> RE: What is the Ugliest Aircraft of All Time? (10/17/2005 7:07:16 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

quote:

ORIGINAL: oi_you_nutter

Handley Page Heyford

this is what happens when the production people have the design drawing upside down

[image]http://www.rafmuseum.org.uk/london/exhibitions/not-quite-extinct/images/PC74-41-97.jpg[/image]


Good Lord! The guys on the production line shold have refused to build it, or at least stopped after the first one.


funnily enough not many were made, it was a plane that was obsolete as soon as it flew. the biplane design does make me wonder where the bomb bay is located and did the lower wing ever get in the way of the bomb load when it was being droppped


the 1930's was a period of transition for aircraft designers, look at the brilliance of designs such as the Spitfire, Bf109, B17 etc and compare it to the Heyford... luckily Handley Page do redeem themselves with the Halifax bomber during WW2



Puukkoo -> RE: What is the Ugliest Aircraft of All Time? (10/17/2005 9:10:02 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: oi_you_nutter

quote:

ORIGINAL: Cap Mandrake

quote:

ORIGINAL: oi_you_nutter

Handley Page Heyford

this is what happens when the production people have the design drawing upside down

[image]http://www.rafmuseum.org.uk/london/exhibitions/not-quite-extinct/images/PC74-41-97.jpg[/image]


Good Lord! The guys on the production line shold have refused to build it, or at least stopped after the first one.


funnily enough not many were made, it was a plane that was obsolete as soon as it flew. the biplane design does make me wonder where the bomb bay is located and did the lower wing ever get in the way of the bomb load when it was being droppped


the 1930's was a period of transition for aircraft designers, look at the brilliance of designs such as the Spitfire, Bf109, B17 etc and compare it to the Heyford... luckily Handley Page do redeem themselves with the Halifax bomber during WW2


Lol. It was so ugly that it had to be build upside-down.



soldier -> RE: What is the Ugliest Aircraft of All Time? (10/17/2005 11:39:24 PM)

My eyes My eyes [8D]



MadScot -> RE: What is the Ugliest Aircraft of All Time? (10/18/2005 6:22:46 AM)

Almost anything from Blackburn and General Aircraft, or their predecessors, stands a decent shot at the title.

The Skua/Roc is actually pretty good by Blackburn standards; some of the inter-war stuff was diabolical. They must have shot the entire design office after the war, because there's no way anyone with a hand in that lot was in the same room as a Buccaneer blueprint.....

If I can sort out how to upload, I'll post an example of their 'art'.....

this is a Blackburn 'B20'. It's a Seaplane thingie .....

[image]local://upfiles/11817/F8385187D8E448F79D6265C4AA500AEC.jpg[/image]



MadScot -> RE: What is the Ugliest Aircraft of All Time? (10/18/2005 6:27:47 AM)

The Blackburn Beverley is pretty ugly too.... the undercarraige is fixed, by the way. Just, well, because.

[image]local://upfiles/11817/04C440D6922D4A0381B88E1543FA00A6.jpg[/image]



Terminus -> RE: What is the Ugliest Aircraft of All Time? (10/18/2005 5:21:18 PM)

Here's a double whammy: the Sikorski S-51 and Piasecki PV-17 (in the foreground).



[image]local://upfiles/16369/A7B5CBD1A4EB4C19BCC0223513084BF8.jpg[/image]



Cap Mandrake -> RE: What is the Ugliest Aircraft of All Time? (10/18/2005 8:17:33 PM)

Teriminus;

Sure it looks funny when in the employ of the USCG, but you need to appreciate the industrial design and marketing benefits too.

[image]local://upfiles/7983/98F8A79CB37A4F3C80D8D28E96D422E5.jpg[/image]



Cap Mandrake -> RE: What is the Ugliest Aircraft of All Time? (10/18/2005 8:19:49 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: MadScot

Almost anything from Blackburn and General Aircraft, or their predecessors, stands a decent shot at the title.

The Skua/Roc is actually pretty good by Blackburn standards; some of the inter-war stuff was diabolical. They must have shot the entire design office after the war, because there's no way anyone with a hand in that lot was in the same room as a Buccaneer blueprint.....

If I can sort out how to upload, I'll post an example of their 'art'.....

this is a Blackburn 'B20'. It's a Seaplane thingie .....

[image]local://upfiles/11817/F8385187D8E448F79D6265C4AA500AEC.jpg[/image]


WOW. That is a cut and paste thing right? You having us on?



Terminus -> RE: What is the Ugliest Aircraft of All Time? (10/18/2005 9:28:55 PM)

If only...



Martti -> RE: What is the Ugliest Aircraft of All Time? (10/18/2005 11:18:52 PM)

The cockpit in Siebel Si 201 is... well...

[image]http://www.luftarchiv.de/flugzeuge/siebel/si201.jpg[/image]



oi_you_nutter -> RE: What is the Ugliest Aircraft of All Time? (10/19/2005 12:42:50 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Martti

The cockpit in Siebel Si 201 is... well...

[image]http://www.luftarchiv.de/flugzeuge/siebel/si201.jpg[/image]


thats a pretty airplane but why bother with an aerodynamic engine nacelle, when the cockpit had the aerodynamic qualities of a brick !



mbatch729 -> RE: What is the Ugliest Aircraft of All Time? (10/19/2005 1:37:48 AM)

What about the A-10 Warthog???

[image]local://upfiles/3303/491E82F5E7334BCEB47C32F7F29D1C64.jpg[/image]



Terminus -> RE: What is the Ugliest Aircraft of All Time? (10/19/2005 1:38:34 AM)

Compared to some of the abominations we've seen so far, the Warthog is a regular Spitfire![;)]



Martti -> RE: What is the Ugliest Aircraft of All Time? (10/19/2005 2:02:25 AM)

Airspeed AS.39

[image]http://www.jaapteeuwen.com/ww2aircraft/pictures/jpg/airspeed%20as39.jpg[/image]



Cap Mandrake -> RE: What is the Ugliest Aircraft of All Time? (10/19/2005 5:55:42 AM)

That oughta be illegal [:-]



watchtower -> RE: What is the Ugliest Aircraft of All Time? (10/19/2005 6:07:32 AM)

Not only ugly but looks dangerous to me - not one, but three tails to shoot off!!



watchtower -> RE: What is the Ugliest Aircraft of All Time? (10/19/2005 6:10:19 AM)

The wheel under the midsection looks a bit Heath- Robinson!!



rtrapasso -> RE: What is the Ugliest Aircraft of All Time? (10/19/2005 5:20:39 PM)

Just saw "Richard III" movie (MGM 1995 with Ian McKellan). This was done using the original dialogue, but with costumes, props pretty much from the interwar (mid -late 30's) period (of course with lots of anachronisms).

In the latter part of the movie, the Queen-Mother gets on the most spectacularly ugly airplane i've seen in motion - some sort of hideous biplane transport that the Handley Page Handford brought to mind. Unfortunately, AFAIK, they did not give a credit to the airplane (but i'd sure like to know what it was!) Anyone else see this or know what it was? (The movie is playing on Starz or Showtime this month).



Terminus -> RE: What is the Ugliest Aircraft of All Time? (10/19/2005 5:26:55 PM)

That was a most peculiar movie! Unfortunately, I don't remember the airplane, but that might be findable...



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