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Sneer -> RE: short break (8/27/2006 2:28:23 PM)

that's history
show your skill
end result is not a victory but how you achieve it




Raverdave -> RE: short break (8/28/2006 2:31:23 PM)

Starting to get some new toys.   P-38 Js have started to arrive along with the P-47 Ds  [:D]  I am in love with the QM.  [&o]




Sneer -> RE: short break (8/28/2006 2:35:53 PM)

your toys are my problems that's obvious
japanese soldiers and sailors will die sooner than retreat from battle





Sneer -> RE: short break (8/29/2006 9:19:51 PM)

9/10/43
in 2-3 days smaller group of isolated chinase forces will be eliminated /mountines south of Yenan/- another 30k troops out of map and out of game

there will be last group120k chinase /north of sian/
no activity beside LBA on my pacific perimeter









Raverdave -> RE: short break (9/4/2006 3:00:43 PM)

I think that I gave Sneer a bit of a shock today.......B-17s over Buna with escort from P-38's....all the way from Cooktown.  [:D]  Pity that little damage was done.




Sneer -> RE: short break (9/4/2006 4:00:57 PM)

yes I'm shocked - not even single hit into undefended runway
looks like allied operation is postponed if we see that kind of allied propaganda[:D]
Raverdave missed opportunity to hit DEI when I had strong 1st line bases but no reinforcements on hand
now 110k elite troops from chungking - all 99 exp reached their new location in dei - Thanks to fast troops transport that alredy waited at canton - and they moved unspotted through only sub infested region within my peimeter
3inf div and 3 inf BDE are available in main bases to go with counterinvasion - as well as enough supplies and assault small transports [8D] they are even nicely prepared for most probablr targets
let's see - you wrote about 2 weeks you need to go for timor - you had some nice chances - now i see this region secured till 44


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 09/17/43

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Day Air attack on Buna , at 55,90


Allied aircraft
P-38J Lightning x 21
B-17E Fortress x 36


Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 4 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
18 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 11000 feet
18 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 11000 feet
/pathetic




veji1 -> RE: short break (9/4/2006 4:29:31 PM)

Hmm... This game is going to be very interesting in the long run, Sneer has certainly learned from the mistakes made by PZB : In 1944 don't use the KB to attack his CVTF, just have it as a deterrent : IF he has to use it to cover all his thrusts because KB might show up, then it will take a lot longer for him to advance, because of all the fuel burnt and the wear and tear suffered by his major fleet units...

And at the same time using the CVLs or small CVs to do a bit of commercial raiding so as to  force him to keep CVEs or even some CVLs in convoys...

And with PDUs on things will be different as well... I really look forward to all that....




Sneer -> RE: short break (9/4/2006 4:46:49 PM)

you ar only partly right
if his carriers meet mine during invasion i can beat him again and he knows it
second such defeat means serious problem to war ending in 45
so he lures me into revealing my bird farms  - they are ready to action
i had 200+ zekes on R&D but it did not accelerate - now I have all my fleet carriers with zekes
no match for hellcat but not in case where i have 2:1 and in defensive mode close to my bases with lba
9/43 - historical timetable indicates that CEN PAC operation should be conducted by allies - if they dare of course
there are attempts to go through thursday /PM but no risk to me seen in this region at this moment
but with reverse midway such delay is well understood




veji1 -> RE: short break (9/4/2006 5:06:11 PM)

you are right, of course, what I meant is that a reverse midway for him means additionnal delay of 3-5 months, while a Midway for you spells the end of KB as an effective threat and means he can speed up his operations considerably... While the threat posed by a live KB means things will be lots slower... Giving you times to build very effective ground defenses and to groom you Airforce...




Sneer -> RE: short break (9/4/2006 5:17:27 PM)

defence is quite good - i stopped expansion when i reached my targets only to have additional time and resources to build key bases
my policy is to have everything - no matter how far away from perimeter at 9 forts so even lone BF can stand against para raiders
airforce is in good shape as I don't fight allies[8D] - if they don't want to come to me i do not go to them
exp lvl are good - i have stopped my frames construction - i can go for attrition battle over major area




veji1 -> RE: short break (9/4/2006 6:06:40 PM)

I remenber seeing a while ago a screenshot of one of your frontline Tojo sentais, it had the right amount of planes, more or less, but double the amount of pilots IIRC, how do you do that ?

( When I disband the a sentai in another, I get the pilots and the planes, which I don't want because they might be torched on the ground and take AF space... ).




Sneer -> RE: short break (9/4/2006 6:26:59 PM)

I use half strenght units mixed with full strenght one
it often gives 40+ planes with 50+ pilots
yes some of them can be torched but i have them more than needed
Tojos & tonys - over 2000
zero 3a and 2 - almost 2k
jacks 700
200+ of KI45 and Ki 43IIa
losses are low till that date -




Raverdave -> RE: short break (9/5/2006 4:12:11 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Sneer


if his carriers meet mine during invasion i can beat him again and he knows it



[:D][:D][:D][:D] I bloody hell I laughed so hard I nearly crapped my pants ! [:D][:D][:D]

Hey japboy this is what is heading your way:-


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jumper -> RE: short break (9/5/2006 10:04:57 PM)

Disband-downgrade-upgrade. If you donīt want to wait till all planes are repaired, you can divide the target unit, disband your unit to the one of those parts, downgrade and upgrade that part and rebuild the unit. You will have all pilots together and only 1/3 planes will be damaged..

I just re-read what I wrote and I must admit my english sucks.. But this method really works fine.. [;)]




Sneer -> RE: short break (9/5/2006 10:53:35 PM)

[>:][>:][>:][>:][>:][>:]




Sneer -> RE: short break (9/5/2006 11:43:49 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: jumper

Disband-downgrade-upgrade. If you donīt want to wait till all planes are repaired, you can divide the target unit, disband your unit to the one of those parts, downgrade and upgrade that part and rebuild the unit. You will have all pilots together and only 1/3 planes will be damaged..

I just re-read what I wrote and I must admit my english sucks.. But this method really works fine.. [;)]


a bit gamey
key elite units are already ready to fight




Sneer -> RE: short break (9/5/2006 11:46:22 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Raverdave


quote:

ORIGINAL: Sneer


if his carriers meet mine during invasion i can beat him again and he knows it



[:D][:D][:D][:D] I bloody hell I laughed so hard I nearly crapped my pants ! [:D][:D][:D]

Hey japboy this is what is heading your way:-


[image]local://upfiles/5619/A02BC9B005F94986B50084B6FACBAA6E.jpg[/image]


propaganda
you wrote to me that we will have carrier duel at timor in 2 weeks - it was in game month ago
I see no will to fight on allied side




Sneer -> RE: short break (9/7/2006 12:52:29 PM)

damn i would play a turn
what a pity - day free and no turn to do
or as always Raverdave forgot to send turn to my home adress and it waits till tuesday in the office [:(]
yesterday Dave signalled that all chinase troops lost in chungking may respawn at karachi [8|][&:][X(]
i will gladly receive some details




aztez -> RE: short break (9/7/2006 8:22:22 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Sneer

damn i would play a turn
what a pity - day free and no turn to do
or as always Raverdave forgot to send turn to my home adress and it waits till tuesday in the office [:(]
yesterday Dave signalled that all chinase troops lost in chungking may respawn at karachi [8|][&:][X(]
i will gladly receive some details




Those Chinese units will respawn in Karachi! That will be quite an sight in India! [;)]




Sneer -> RE: short break (9/7/2006 8:55:34 PM)

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 09/22/43
I think I understand
there is sth like 8 Southeast asia chinase divisions so they will respawn at karachi probably
not that I agree with this but ....
meanwhile heavy air raid on Asansol
165 enemy fighters defended bombers from my 145 planes
exp for both sides was at 70+ I think
my planes are painfully old - tonys are a bit outdated and that's the main reason I think
60 enemy planes for 120 samurais almost all A2A- bad day  only 30 pilots live after battle 80% casualty rate for veteran units always hurts

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Day Air attack on Asansol , at 31,21
 
Japanese aircraft
J2M Jack x 15
Ki-61 KAIc Tony x 130
 
Allied aircraft
Thunderbolt II x 25
Liberator VI x 103
P-40N Warhawk x 72
P-38G Lightning x 72
B-24D Liberator x 43
 
Japanese aircraft losses
J2M Jack: 12 destroyed
Ki-61 KAIc Tony: 98 destroyed
 
Allied aircraft losses
Thunderbolt II: 8 destroyed, 3 damaged
P-40N Warhawk: 16 destroyed, 3 damaged
P-38G Lightning: 24 destroyed, 10 damaged
 
Japanese ground losses:
164 casualties reported
 
Airbase hits 30
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 128




veji1 -> RE: short break (9/8/2006 11:08:55 AM)

how did decide to stand and fight ? Aren't you supposed to avoid battle as much as possible whenever it isn't capital to stop his aerial offensive, ie whenever he is not coupling it with ground offensive...

This is a big defeat... Your biggest since your CV victory... Keep up the fight and trains pilots, you have some rank filling to do...




Sneer -> RE: short break (9/8/2006 3:07:33 PM)

it is big but not the biggest one
i lost almost 300 planes in 2  days not so long ago over jamshedpur






veji1 -> RE: short break (9/8/2006 4:22:54 PM)

Oupps... Sorry I didn't pay attention enough... BTW, I didn't mean to criticise or anything, just asking a question, but I guess since this is an open AAR you cannot enter too much into details without revealing to much of you operational methods.

Keep it up and make the emperor proud !!




Sneer -> RE: short break (9/8/2006 6:39:12 PM)

no offence :-) all readers are welcome




Sneer -> RE: short break (9/9/2006 10:57:37 AM)

[8|]

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veji1 -> RE: short break (9/9/2006 11:07:04 AM)

hmmm... I wouldn't call that gamey, because this LCUs are part of SEAC, so gamewise it is acceptable...  But the in WITP the allies are a coalition facing a unique country ( well one could talk about IJN and IJA being 2 countries... )... The question is what is the abilities of each member of the coalition to deploy outside their original box..

US troops could perfectly well deploy in India, they would just have to be transported across the atlantic and round Africa.. Same for UK troops in West coast... but the idea that Chinese troops could appear in Karachi once China is under jap boot... well... I am not sure it is plausible... You could talk about some form of resistance like French and Poles in exile, but then that means not enough manpower to man 8 divs...

If you are fine with it, then its OK, other wise you could argue with Raver that each of them should stop allowinf reinforcements once it reaches 80 or 100 Assault points, to emulate the limited exiled chinese manpower ?

Anyway, If you are both fine with, then it's OK.

Keep up, Banzai !!!




Sneer -> RE: short break (9/9/2006 12:24:45 PM)

i don't have any idea what to do
sooner or later it will be over 1k AV maybe even close to 2  and it will be cannon fodder with chinase replacement
i think you are right
units are ok but soon their replacements should be turned off
let's see what Raverdave suggest






Raverdave -> RE: short break (9/9/2006 3:32:44 PM)

Well I think that Chinese troops are f**cking usless........I'll use them maybe in India to keep the the locals in check....or i might make them do a LONG march back to China.




Sneer -> RE: short break (9/10/2006 11:16:19 AM)

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 09/27/43
small jap success today
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TF 1135 encounters mine field at Lautem (33,78)
 
Allied Ships
CL Raleigh, Mine hits 1
CL Achilles, Mine hits 1,  on fire
 
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Naval bombardment of Lautem, at 33,78
 
Allied Ships
CL Newcastle
CL Birmingham
CL Dauntless
CL Emerald
CL Hobart
CL Achilles,  on fire
CL Leander
CA Frobisher
CA Hawkins
CA Cornwall
 
Japanese ground losses:
138 casualties reported
Guns lost 3
 
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Day Air attack on Dili , at 31,77
 
Japanese aircraft
no flights
 
Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk III x 16
Beaufighter Mk 21 x 23
 
Japanese aircraft losses
No Japanese losses
 
Allied aircraft losses
Beaufighter Mk 21: 1 damaged
 
Japanese ground losses:
5 casualties reported
 
Aircraft Attacking:
 7 x Beaufighter Mk 21 bombing at 2000 feet
14 x Beaufighter Mk 21 attacking at 100 feet
 2 x Beaufighter Mk 21 attacking at 100 feet
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Day Air attack on San Jose , at 41,53
 
Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 79
 
No Japanese losses
 
Runway hits 11
 
Aircraft Attacking:
18 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 10000 feet
13 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 10000 feet
19 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 10000 feet
 6 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 10000 feet
 9 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 10000 feet
 3 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 10000 feet
 3 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 10000 feet
 6 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 10000 feet
 2 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 10000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Darwin at 36,84
 
Japanese aircraft
G3M Nell x 18
G4M2 Betty x 13
 
Japanese aircraft losses
G3M Nell: 4 damaged
G4M2 Betty: 6 damaged
 
Allied Ships
DD Jenkins, Bomb hits 1
DD Grayson, Bomb hits 1,  on fire,  heavy damage
DD Gridley, Bomb hits 6,  on fire,  heavy damage
DD Meredith
DD Conway
 
Aircraft Attacking:
 1 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 5000 feet
 2 x G3M Nell bombing at 5000 feet
 4 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 5000 feet
 4 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 5000 feet
 4 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 5000 feet
 4 x G3M Nell bombing at 5000 feet
 4 x G3M Nell bombing at 5000 feet
 4 x G3M Nell bombing at 5000 feet
 4 x G3M Nell bombing at 5000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Darwin at 36,84
 
Japanese aircraft
G4M2 Betty x 3
 
Japanese aircraft losses
G4M2 Betty: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
 
Allied Ships
CA Indianapolis, Bomb hits 1
 
Aircraft Attacking:
 2 x G4M2 Betty bombing at 5000 feet
 
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Ground combat at 47,26
 
Japanese Bombardment attack
 
Attacking force 119058 troops, 1251 guns, 384 vehicles, Assault Value = 3590
 
Defending force 125898 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 1524
 
 
 
Allied ground losses:
115 casualties reported
 
 




Sneer -> RE: short break (9/10/2006 4:33:50 PM)

10/1/43
time for stats
additional data on request

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