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RE: 3x3 PBEM game - 12/8/2005 1:47:08 AM

Gen.Hoepner

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ORIGINAL: pauk

I believe that is better, but never played on AB map so i would prefer (and pfnognoff too) vanilla). the reason for that is i would probably made some mistake due unknown map.

What is last official patch? I'm on 1.6..

now, GH i'm taking my steel helmet too (yeah, cant wait for WiR too) and moving in front of TV to watching how Barcelona is going to kick Udinese *ss

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now, GH i'm taking my steel helmet too (yeah, cant wait for WiR too) and moving in front of TV to watching how Barcelona is going to kick Udinese *ss

Well...WiR will probably be the last game i'll buy for the next 10 years

I'll take out my cross of Iron ( 1939 original!

and my granfather's italian military boots ( original!) for playing it

Udinese went out. You bring unluck Pauk...your comrades should not be happy about that

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However we still have 3 teams in the CL cup....Milan ( my team), Inter and Juve. Do not see where Hjyduk ( sp?!?!?!) Split is playing at the moment

yeah...ok...you won the Devis cup...i know

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RE: 3x3 PBEM game - 12/8/2005 9:33:30 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Gen.Hoepner

Well...WiR will probably be the last game i'll buy for the next 10 years
I'll take out my cross of Iron ( 1939 original! and my granfather's italian military boots ( original!) for playing it

Interesing... i see that we will have something to talk about it! Your gf was in Air force?

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ORIGINAL: Gen.Hoepner

Udinese went out. You bring unluck Pauk...your comrades should not be happy about that.
However we still have 3 teams in the CL cup....Milan ( my team), Inter and Juve. Do not see where Hjyduk ( sp?!?!?!) Split is playing at the moment

yeah...ok...you won the Devis cup...i know

Yep, I'm magnet for unluck

And for a Hajduk, I'm passive supporter of Dinamo Zagreb, and these two clubs love each other like Lazio and Roma

. You should ask hawker about Hajduk, I believe that he could be Hajduk fan.

Yes, we won Davis cup this year, last few years Janica Kostelic dominated in WC skiing, our football national team was 3rd on the world (we also qualified for Germany!)... not a bad for a nation with barely more than 4 milion souls

but yes, our FCs sucks....

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RE: 3x3 PBEM game - 12/8/2005 9:38:45 AM

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hi, "Roman"

...

we (Japs) are not discuss yet about PDU, but if we going to play with them we will certainly propose some rules....

As for first turn, i think that is a best first turn suprise for all Allied theatres except the China. We (read: I, the great Tojo

) don't won't to give Allies free intel where we are going to strike first turn and IMHO, it will not affect Allies significantly - and we are going to strike only one major port (or none)...

Do you find that acceptable?

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RE: 3x3 PBEM game - 12/8/2005 10:00:22 AM

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My personnal home rule would be to allow Chinese to move freely, and British some limited liberty (their Catalina were shadowing convoys for 2 days), like for example the possibility to move air units and change their orders, but not move ships and ground units.

As for PDU, the simplest home rule I know is the one forbiding the convert of medium bombers to heavy ones.

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RE: 3x3 PBEM game - 12/8/2005 10:46:13 AM

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Interesing... i see that we will have something to talk about it! Your gf was in Air force?

No, fortunately for him not( very few italian aviators survived the slaughter). My GF was a volunteer (sp?) officer ( he was a university teacher so was not sent to the front at the beginning). He served in Albania/Greece, then Libia, then managed to get back before the collapse, then was again volunteer in the "brigate nere" on the eastern border ( fighting the ita-yugo comunist partisans)...the pow camp.

Anyway, for PDU... my suggestion remains the same: Mediums upgrade strickly to mediums. Heavy to Heavy. So to say: Lilies do not become Sallies; Sonias/Anns/Marys remain DB; allied 2 Engines remain 2 engines.

Do we need something for the "overstacking"? Me, as allied...i don't really care...but the croatians probably, as playing on jap side, may want to say something about it.

Dinamo Zagreb? Wasn't that the first team of my beloved Zvonimir Boban?....that man should become president!

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RE: 3x3 PBEM game - 12/8/2005 12:26:18 PM

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I'd guess you're from Milano then? And lol, Boban for president. The would be like, I don't know...Berllusconi was your prime minister or something...oh wait...
Seriously, I'm bit sceptical but he couldn't do more damage then present old farts. Or could he?

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RE: 3x3 PBEM game - 12/8/2005 12:44:04 PM

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ORIGINAL: Honda

I'd guess you're from Milano then? And lol, Boban for president. The would be like, I don't know...Berllusconi was your prime minister or something...oh wait...
Seriously, I'm bit sceptical but he couldn't do more damage then present old farts. Or could he?

No, i'm from a place close to venice.

Anyway...Boban is good looking, fashionable ( probably the best-dressed man in Europe so far

)...what else do you need in a president?

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RE: 3x3 PBEM game - 12/8/2005 4:41:46 PM

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ORIGINAL: Gen.Hoepner
Anyway...Boban is good looking, fashionable ( probably the best-dressed man in Europe so far )...what else do you need in a president?

Can't argue with that. Not that I take much notice, but I guess he does dress very well. Two months ago I was in a great restauraunt in northern Croatia. It's a bit exclusive, but not as much in prices as in its reclusiveness. It's actually fun because all the animals you get to eat walk around free. You should see a 100+ kg pig run next to you while you're eating. Fun! All I could see was two hams when it was running off. Anyway, what I wanted to say was that Boban was there with his wife and two kids and dog or dogs, whatever. I have a pic of little Boban with my niece playing :)
And yes, he was dressed very nicely. We, the locals, didn't pay much attention to him, nut you should have seen a group of Italians poiting to him and saying "Boban! Boban!" like he was part of the tour :) Funny
I know he is very popular in Italy, but there are some things that don't agree with me. But that doesn't matter, it's his life. He can live it any way he wants.
Cheers

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RE: 3x3 PBEM game - 12/12/2005 2:32:21 PM

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So guys? Are we ready?

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RE: 3x3 PBEM game - 12/12/2005 3:16:35 PM

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I'm ready myself. But the Japanese side needs maybe more time....

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RE: 3x3 PBEM game - 12/12/2005 9:10:45 PM

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greetings....

we are currently discussing about PDU - one of us want to play with PDU while two others are not so excited with that.

Our "dead-line" is still after Christmas and before New Year (yes, Japs are really need lots of time for initial turn)

Waiting for 1.8 is not a good option (IMO), doubt that new patch will be out in next month or two....

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RE: 3x3 PBEM game - 12/24/2005 4:45:08 PM

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hi, i've lost contact with hawker.... GH, are you still in touch with him?

EDIT: it seems that i've lost contact with GH too...

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RE: 3x3 PBEM game - 12/26/2005 3:28:38 PM

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Hi to our esteemed opponents... we are getting close to done our turn. Here are agreed house rules, but there is still open questions:

WHAT ALLIES FIND ACCEPTABLE IF:

#1. we strike PH
#2. Manila
#3. Singapore...

please let us know...

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ORIGINAL: pauk

#1. one port attack on turn one (our choice PH, Sing, Manila)
#2. no creation allied TF on turn 1
#3. only PTs in TF (no DDs or other ships!); however, the Allies is allowed to do it in their yard - a far away from war area
#4. Allies are suprised on turn one (except the China -STILL OPEN TO DISCUSS!)
#5. no intentional creating of "naval coast guard" ... lone PGs, MSWs, AKs etc and placing them as early warning system (better than radar!) for both sides
#6. no moving units from Kwantung before PPs are spent!
#7. no teleprot invasions for Japs on turn one (this could be discussed and agreed for some more limitations - example: only historical landings are allowed on turn one, other landings in northern Borneo, Malaya, and Philippines can occur on turn 2)
#8... LIMITING THE NIGHT BOMBING... (example: one ac group is allowed to do night attack per turn, can agree on max number of ac allowed to night attack per turn)
#9. if Soviet is activated, only Allied air units which pay PP to be transfered to Soviet command may go there. Soviet were very reluctant to have foreign units in their bases. It was possible but not on a large scale, so I think the PP cost may simulate this.
#10. no overstacking airplanes on AF (level 3 max 150, level 4 max 200 etc...)

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RE: 3x3 PBEM game - 12/27/2005 12:25:18 AM

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greetings....

it depends...

most of my games have simply house rule - if i'm going to PH on turn one - no giving orders for USA (i leave to my opponents decision if they want to move air units in the PI or not - as you know PI were also caught by suprise, but we are ok with restricted movements in the PI) - British, Dutch and Aussies can move (time difference).

so, if we hit Manila on turn one then would be logical (IMHO) no Allied movement on PI and east of PI (time difference)

Singapore: no movement, transfering air units in Malaya and DEI. I'm not sure what about units at PH and West Coast...

Of course, we shall inform you which target is choosed before you start giving your orders.

PS: Our third team-mate is on hollidays (ccccc...) but he will be ready on Thursday...

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RE: 3x3 PBEM game - 12/27/2005 4:59:12 PM

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I use same home rule as yours. If PH is attacked, then limited movement is allowed in PI (only air units) and full movement in Malaya. Other area are not allowed to move (still being in peacetime routine).

If there is no PH attack, PI will be completely surprised, Malaya a little (only air units may move) and nothing will move elsewhere.

If Singapore is attacked, nothing will move on the map on the Allied side.

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RE: 3x3 PBEM game - 12/30/2005 4:32:38 PM

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greetings...

Amiral, that's sounds good. As i can see, GH is back into the action and we can start our game....

We are doing our turn right now, so please be patient little more guys...

we will start our AAR section soon (usual separate AAR; no lurking to other side etc....)

Oh, yes, we are going for Singapore and will try not to exploit first turn suprise (like attacking Manila AF knowing that there are many fighters)

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RE: 3x3 PBEM game - 12/30/2005 6:30:44 PM

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GH is out for skiing for the week-end but I think we can start next week.

Why was I sure you will go for Singapore ? Now where is my plan to take Tokyo with the 2nd USMC Division in January 1942 ? Sh..t, I said it !

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RE: 3x3 PBEM game - 12/30/2005 11:07:25 PM

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Maybe because i scream all over the forum about results at PH on turn one

... after all, I'm the Tojo here, and my generals have to agree with my plan

Now seriously, I'm fine with start after the New Year.

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RE: 3x3 PBEM game - 12/30/2005 11:31:01 PM

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hi,

yes, of course

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RE: 3x3 PBEM game - 12/31/2005 3:55:59 PM

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forgot to mention that two of us are on 1.602. I will upgrade too... i hope that is not a problem for you guys?

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RE: 3x3 PBEM game - 1/4/2006 3:09:17 PM

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errr.... i do not see reasons why would someone transfer planes from CVs and other ships...

If you referring to mixing air groups on carrier capable, well it is little bit gamey for me at this moment.

Existing TFs are allowed to move but we expecting no plot at turn one (ie: Wake invasion - American CV's aren't allowe to attack japanese surface TFs at turn one at Wake

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RE: 3x3 PBEM game - 1/11/2006 7:08:40 PM

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since we have divided area, i think that the easiest solution would be one ac group allowed per player... but let's see what the other guys think about it before accepting this...

one more thing to discuss.... i've asked Amiral about landings at non base hex. Personally i have my own rules about it - ie i would never land with small unit to prevent 100 000 enemy soldiers capture.... i would never land in hx between Manila and Naga (but that's not my theatre!)...

Amiral respond and i'm agree with him 100%! here it is (hope you don't mind about qouting your e-mail message - but that is exactly what is my view too)

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I think this question should be discussed between all players and an agreement met. Better to ask it on the forum, in the "opponents searched" section.

My POV is that, contrary to what people said, landings in "open hexes" are resolved by the game as landings in bases. "Casualties" (ie disabled squads) occur probably with the same proportion and if the hex is defended defending artillery will fire on troops and ships. The only difference being that there is no trace in the reports of these landings if they are done outside bases. So they are OK for me. I think some railyard hexes on the map are vulnerable to landings and should be defended.

The tiny unit, para or not, blocking retreat paths is another matter. I myself find it badly handled by WITP and needing a lot of home rules to deal with. Watch the last turns of my AAR "Bloody Pacific". Akyab is held by a depleted Bde and a base force and besieged by a Jap Div. I have a strong SNLF in the hex NE of the base and planned to land another NW of it, so cutting all retreat paths, before attacking the base and capturing the garrison. But a British Bde arrived by unknown means to the hex NW of Akyab and my SNLF was bady disrupted in the landing, leaving 800 able Japanese (of a force of 1800-1900) to face 4500 British. Nevertheless in WITP terms the retreat path was closed.
In this particular case I said to my opponent that I will wait one day to see if he is able to rout me there. If he didn't succeed, I would say my forces were able to create a roadblock and this will be enough to block Akyab forces (that are only slightly stronger in assault value to my blocking force). When he wrote that I was sure I will be routed but my SNLF repulsed at 0 to 1 the Allied shock attack ! So I will try to take Akyab now.

What do you guys think (CiC for Malaya, Burma, Australia Command, India, China..)?

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RE: 3x3 PBEM game - 2/13/2006 8:03:30 PM

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i'm on 1602.

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RE: 3x3 PBEM game - 2/14/2006 12:03:56 AM

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Me also.

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RE: 3x3 PBEM game - 2/22/2006 1:01:20 AM

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Hi, Tell your pal Lt Calley not to post or I'll lock the thread. If he had changed his avatar and sig line along with his screen name I might not have caught on since I was not looking for him. His old avatar and sig line gave him away.

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