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ORIGINAL: c92nichj

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My advice is that practice makes perfect when drawing counters

And how can we apply this in MWIF, will practice get me to draw better units there aswell?

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1 - Captured units are repainted to match the new owner.

2 - Permanently acquired units are repainted to match the new owner (e.g., Netherlands naval units, Norwegian transport, Bearn).

3 - Lend leased units get a horizontal middle stripe the color of the country from whence they came (since they are mostly owned by the controlling player, there is less of the original owning country's color).

4 - Loaned units get a horizontal bottom stripe for color of the borrowing player (mostly owned by the original player, so there is more of that color).

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5 - Units from aligned minor countries are recolored to match the controlling major power. Some notable exceptions are Poland, Spain, and Turkey which are left as is. This decision primarily affects units from the Balkans, southern Asia, and South America.

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ORIGINAL: stretch

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5 - Units from aligned minor countries are recolored to match the controlling major power. Some notable exceptions are Poland, Spain, and Turkey which are left as is. This decision primarily affects units from the Balkans, southern Asia, and South America.

Will there be any type of info remaining that with a quick visual glance one can tell the country (other than by the unit name)? I know it doesn't really matter but it adds to the richness of the experience. Maybe something like the commonwealth units which have a center color and a letter or two showing if its canadian, indian, south african, etc. Speaking of which, I assume that is reproduced. I don't recall seeing any of them in the unit pics posted earlier in this thread.

It may be stupid but if #5 makes aligned minor units look exactly like the major powes units, I think we lose a tiny bit of aesthetic appeal. I could get over it, of course.

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ORIGINAL: Rorgg

Standardize on either the ISO 2-letter abbreviations or the Olympic 3-letter abbreviations, inventing to fill in where necessary. A mix is just messy.

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ORIGINAL: stretch

Possibly these ?

2 Letter ISO

3 letter olympic

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ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets
Oh, how lovely. I'll go with the 3 letters since they should be easier for the players to figure out.

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ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets
Yeah, I cut out the CorelDraw middle man. Here's a revisit of the German SS

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ORIGINAL: Frederyck
The counters look wonderful. Excellent job! I have one question, though. The MOTs have their small filled in circles "the wheels" only tangentially touching the rectangle above. On the real life counters, it looks like they are somewhat more overlapping. Is this an effect of the larger images on screen?

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ORIGINAL: Greyshaft

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ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets
Oh, how lovely. I'll go with the 3 letters since they should be easier for the players to figure out.

You'll need a bit of poetic licence for Yugoslavia

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ORIGINAL: c92nichj

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Off on the horizon is the issue of the status boxes, the choice of their colors and other manipulations to convey come of the items you mentioned.

Talking about the status boxes are they slightly larger than the counter itself? To me it looks like there is an extra pixel on each side of the counter. Is that intentional or could you use that extra pixel to add a tiny 3-D effect to the counters.

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5 - Units from aligned minor countries are recolored to match the controlling major power. Some notable exceptions are Poland, Spain, and Turkey which are left as is. This decision primarily affects units from the Balkans, southern Asia, and South America.

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ORIGINAL: Shannon V. OKeets

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ORIGINAL: pak19652002

I'm another member of this forgotten minority and have raised this issue several times in the past. Steve has assured me that Matrix publishes its games in full compliance with the Americans with Disabilities Act.

In other words, he promised to make important information available in ways color blind people can perceive.

So, how do the counters look to you? Should I try to put certain units next to each other?

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Right now I am leaning towards Chris' (CWIF's) solution to the various units with dual affiliations:

1 - Captured units are repainted to match the new owner.

2 - Permantently acquired units are repainted to match the new owner (e.g., Netherlands naval units, Norwegian transport, Bearn).

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3 - Lend leased units get a horizontal middle stripe the color of the country from whence they came (since they are mostly owned by the controlling player, there is less of the original owning country's color).

4 - Loaned units get a horizontal bottom stripe for color of the borrowing player (mostly owned by the original player, so there is more of that color).

5 - Units from aligned minor countries are recolored to match the controlling major power. Some notable exceptions are Poland, Spain, and Turkey which are left as is. This decision primarily affects units from the Balkans, southern Asia, and South America.

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Yeah, I cut out the CorelDraw middle man. Here's a revisit of the German SS

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ORIGINAL: pak19652002

Regarding lines, the black outlines in the CWIF counters appear thicker to me and all the same width. Therefore I can't really notice that the status bar is bigger. Maybe using slightly wider lines (all of the same width) would solve this problem, which does, unfortunately, convey the impression that the counters aren't "done"...which, of course, they aren't.

Peter

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ORIGINAL: Froonp

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Right now I am leaning towards Chris' (CWIF's) solution to the various units with dual affiliations:

1 - Captured units are repainted to match the new owner.

2 - Permantently acquired units are repainted to match the new owner (e.g., Netherlands naval units, Norwegian transport, Bearn).

Well, you need to be carefull here in my opinion, because there are 2 kinds of "Permantently acquired units".
Netherlands naval units stay Dutch units after the Netherlands and or the NEI fall, because the Netherlands are only incompletely conquered. So those units do not cooperate with other minors aligned to the CW, as the Danish (who also are incompletely conquered) for example. The Yugoslavian ships on the other hand become CW units after the fall of Yugoslavia, because Yugoslavia is completely conquered. So the ex-yugoslav ships cooperate with all the others ships from minors aligned to the CW.
So I think that you should use two rules :
2a - Permantently acquired units and naval units from completely conquered aligned countries are repainted to match the new owner (e.g., Yugoslavian & Polish naval units, Bearn).
2b - Permantently acquired units from incompletely conquered aligned countries stay as they are (e.g., Dutch & Danish naval units).
This should be to help the player understand why the Danish & the Dutch ship are refusing to dock at the same port for example (not cooperating has lots of bad sides thatt the player will be aware of from the rule book).

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3 - Lend leased units get a horizontal middle stripe the color of the country from whence they came (since they are mostly owned by the controlling player, there is less of the original owning country's color).

4 - Loaned units get a horizontal bottom stripe for color of the borrowing player (mostly owned by the original player, so there is more of that color).

5 - Units from aligned minor countries are recolored to match the controlling major power. Some notable exceptions are Poland, Spain, and Turkey which are left as is. This decision primarily affects units from the Balkans, southern Asia, and South America.

Here I'll have the same reserve as for 2.
Units from aligned minor countries do not cooperate with each others. Mexicans & Brazilians for example do not cooperate when both are aligned by the USA, and do not cooperate with the CW units, so both cannot end a move in the same hex for example, they cannot enter a CW home country, cannot stack with a CW unit, so if you change their color to the US color you will end with a 6-5 US MOT (Brazilian in fact) that cannot stack with a British unit in Malta and will wonder why.
I think that Minor country units should stay their color.

Cheers !
Patrice

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ORIGINAL: Froonp

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Yeah, I cut out the CorelDraw middle man. Here's a revisit of the German SS

I feel they are better.
However, I can't tell the yellow printed from the white printed easily enough. Maybe make them more yellow ? Or a yellowish red ?
On this shot the green of the MAR is more green, it is OK for me, and the Blue of the ART & PARA would need to be slightly more blue.
For the white print SS units, the color of the surrounding line and of the MOT wheels should be white to have the box not seeming smaller.

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ORIGINAL: Froonp
Now that you shot the Corel middleman, I'd like to see the Japanese again, because the Red of the German TD unit was looking good on the German shot. Could you post a new shot of the Japanese, and why not a new shot at all of the countries ? It is too bad if our previous comments where not right on spot because of the Corel middle conversion.

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ORIGINAL: Rorgg

well, Yugoslavia had an IOC code, I think it was just "YUG."

Aha! A quick search shows Wikipedia as usual to be my saviour:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_IOC_country_codes

includes the defunct ones down at the bottom.

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ORIGINAL: Rorgg

Of course, remember some of those flags have changed since 1940.