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RE: Test Thread - 1/31/2006 7:20:51 PM   
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I'm seeing a biz plan to sell signs like this over the net. I need one that say, "Warning: neurotic dog."

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RE: Test Thread - 1/31/2006 7:22:37 PM   
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RE: Test Thread - 1/31/2006 7:27:52 PM   
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Hmmm, let me think. Recruiting scandals would leave out SMU and A&M. I don't think Rice was in the SW conference. Baylor?


Rice WAS in the SWC, and was where i went to undergrad school. I am not sure i remember who were all the teams in the SWC, but there was Texas, Texas Tech, Arkansas, University of Houston (admitted late), Texas A&M, Baylor, SMU, TCU, and Rice. Of course, we also played some non-conference teams, and we were a very popular team to have play at various homecoming games for the other side (thus assuring a lopsided victory and glowing feelings among the other universities Alum.) If we were lucky, we might have TCU come to our homecoming, but even then it was iffy.

It was a rather rough conference for us - i think in my last year, of the 11 teams that we played, 8 were in the top 20 when we played them...


EDIT: from posts below, i can see i need to clarify this: use of WE in this means the school (in general), not me personally!!

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RE: Test Thread - 1/31/2006 7:40:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		i tried to find a reference to the W-L of the 70's and came up with this:

"As for the football team, it set a record in late 2005 by losing its 14th consecutive game. This streak - the longest active in college football at the time ..."

Glad(?) to see we are keeping up the tradition...

BTW, there is also this:

"The Rice baseball team won the College World Series in 2003, blasting Stanford 14-2 in the final game. Because of the academic quality of the two finalists, the series earned nicknames such as the "RBIs and SATs Series." The victory made Rice University the smallest school in 51 years to win a national championship at the highest collegiate level of the sport. This is Rice's only national championship in a team sport."

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RE: Test Thread - 1/31/2006 7:53:22 PM   
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Status: offline 		News Flash: i was wrong when i said Rice lost the 50/50 chance at becoming conference champions - apparently they beat TCU somewhere along the line, as they were 1994 SWC football champions! This alone probably did in the conference!

Hoo-hah! and i only found out about it 12 years later... i guess they didn't flaunt it too much as it was pretty much a coin-toss between the two bottom teams in the conference... but the only ones that were eligible to win..,

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RE: Test Thread - 1/31/2006 8:06:01 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well Robert, you have my respect. While Rice may not have dominated college football, it is an outstanding academic school, who also managed to field some respectable teams all things considered. I went to a number of Owls games as a kid growing up in Houston in the 70's. I may have seen you play. What position did you play?



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RE: Test Thread - 1/31/2006 8:12:32 PM   
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RE: Test Thread - 1/31/2006 9:01:17 PM   
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Well Robert, you have my respect. While Rice may not have dominated college football, it is an outstanding academic school, who also managed to field some respectable teams all things considered. I went to a number of Owls games as a kid growing up in Houston in the 70's. I may have seen you play. What position did you play?



No, no, no!! i did not play (and i am sorry if i gave that impression) - i merely cheered them on, and many of them lived across the hall, etc. i used to be really interested in football in general, but once players started topping $1 mill/year for salaries, i thought it was no longer a game. College football also kind of lost my respect due to the massive cheating scandals that (i think) led to the demise of the SWC...

You are correct, though, about the respectable quality of Rice teams. i was just looking for records and found a big website that has all the college football team records dating back years and years. It also runs a statistical analysis on who are the best teams, by analyzing win/loss ratios, and by the difficulty in schedules. To my surprise, Rice actually rated #1 for two years: 1977 and 1979 if you do the "schedule" method. Not that you'd know it by looking at the win-loss ratio: 1/10/0 both years. i guess that goes to show how you can lie with statistics!!!

BTW - i was in Houston until Aug 1973, so i guess it was possible we could have crossed paths...

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RE: Test Thread - 1/31/2006 9:12:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		Rice, as I recall was a great football team decades ago, maybe back in the 30's or 40's. That was back in the day of the real student athelete. Now college teams are nothing more than the minor leagues for the pros and Univesities jump on those cash cows.

I find it somewhat amazing that people slam pro football players for being mercenaries. Yet, from my point of view, they aren't guilty of anything more than being gifted athletes and capitalists. Its the colleges that amaze me. They cash in on the students and often fail to uphold reasonable academic standards for them.

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RE: Test Thread - 1/31/2006 9:13:31 PM   
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RE: Test Thread - 1/31/2006 9:17:20 PM   
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RE: Test Thread - 1/31/2006 9:18:38 PM   
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RE: Test Thread - 1/31/2006 9:22:45 PM   
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Rice, as I recall was a great football team decades ago, maybe back in the 30's or 40's. That was back in the day of the real student athelete. Now college teams are nothing more than the minor leagues for the pros and Univesities jump on those cash cows.

I find it somewhat amazing that people slam pro football players for being mercenaries. Yet, from my point of view, they aren't guilty of anything more than being gifted athletes and capitalists. Its the colleges that amaze me. They cash in on the students and often fail to uphold reasonable academic standards for them.



i don't want to give the impression that i slam pro athletes - more power to them if they can get this money. However, i do think it sort of has a lot to say about society, where a pro athlete will make more money in 1 year than a teacher or engineer (or most anyone else, for that matter) in their lifetimes. Colleges/Universities also have the peculiar double standard you noted, but it is THOUGHT to be a moneymaker for the school. However, most of the time the financial records are OFF LIMITS for examination, and no one really knows what the real story is.

Apparently, someone finally got to do an audit at Rice, iirc, and they found the football program deeply in the red. There was already a lot of tension between the academics and athletics department, and this has strengthened the call of some to dump the football program. Given Rice's academic orientation, this might happen. The excuse in the past was "well, the football program makes money for the school".

Of course, i don't know what they would do with a 73000 seat stadium. This thing (the stadium) is sort of bizarre, considering when i went there the entire student population was about 1400, and not all of them went to the games. We were generally outnumbered by the rival team's student body even when we played at home. On the road - forget it!!

The few people i know that actually went on road trips to see the football games (when they weren't in a bus with other students) regretted it deeply.

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RE: Test Thread - 1/31/2006 9:55:01 PM   
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Oh well, guess I will let it go. I have more important things to attend to like trying to throw Graycompany back out of India!

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RE: Test Thread - 1/31/2006 9:56:35 PM   
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RE: Test Thread - 1/31/2006 10:00:18 PM   
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RE: Test Thread - 1/31/2006 10:01:05 PM   
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Yeah, the universities talk a good game when it comes to athletics. I suppose I'm just a skeptic of beureaucratic systems. I'd love to go to a school like UT and analyze thier books, find out how much of the money that comes in from football goes directly toward academic programs. Here in Colorado, CU just got done renevating its stadium and did away with some student seating in favor of corporate sky boxes. The now ex-CU Regent was often seen in those corporate sky boxes hob-knobbing with the execs.

Oh well, guess I will let it go. I have more important things to attend to like trying to throw Graycompany back out of India!


Are you at University of Colorado/Boulder? i had a friend that got a PhD or two there and i used to go out there to visit.

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RE: Test Thread - 1/31/2006 10:06:46 PM   
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Boulder is a great place, I would love to live there when my career allows it.

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RE: Test Thread - 1/31/2006 10:17:00 PM   
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Nope, my girlfriend graduated from CU last year. I got my undergrad at UNC, that's University of Northern Colorado.

Boulder is a great place, I would love to live there when my career allows it.



Yeah, my friend really liked it and would like to go back there, i think, but is on the East Coast...

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RE: Test Thread - 1/31/2006 11:15:48 PM   
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RE: Test Thread - 1/31/2006 11:17:39 PM   
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RE: Test Thread - 1/31/2006 11:21:15 PM   
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Sure got quiet here...

I think we left them speechless with our brillance.

or it might be that I forgot to shower!

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RE: Test Thread - 1/31/2006 11:22:55 PM   
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RE: Test Thread - 1/31/2006 11:23:36 PM   
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RE: Test Thread - 1/31/2006 11:23:37 PM   
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RE: Test Thread - 1/31/2006 11:23:55 PM   
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RE: Test Thread - 1/31/2006 11:24:28 PM   
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or perhaps everyone is working....slackers!



Too lazy and I'm enjoying the (unplanned) sabbatical too much to look for a job yet.

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RE: Test Thread - 1/31/2006 11:24:57 PM   
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RE: Test Thread - 1/31/2006 11:25:04 PM   
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If Rice really wanted to make some money off their sports program, they could just disband the football team and rent out the stadium.

True. They could just have Janet Jackson half-time shows every week.

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RE: Test Thread - 1/31/2006 11:25:42 PM   
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Sure got quiet here...

I think we left them speechless with our brillance.

or it might be that I forgot to shower!


as Rice University football program managed to kill the Southwest Athletic Conference, it isn't too surprising that it could stun members of The Thread...

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