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ORIGINAL: amwild

Steve,

Since I am a relative newbie to WiF, I can't really comment on all these options.

However, a friend asked me the following rules-based question, which I am now passing on as well as I undetstand it:

In cardboard WiF, production is limited to those unit types for which there are counters available in the box and not yet deployed to the map - i.e. only a limited number of any unit type can be produced.

Since a computer does not have any such physical limits on the number of each unit type counter that can be produced, is it possible to set an option so that:

1. The numbers of each unit type that may be produced is limited to those available as counters in cardboard WiF
or
2. Unlimited numbers of each unit type may be produced.

I would expect that there may be named units - such as HQs - that it might not be desirable to produce in numbers in excess of those available in cardboard WiF.

So, will MWiF have limited, unlimited or selectable limits on production of units?

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ORIGINAL: amwild

Steve,

Since I am a relative newbie to WiF, I can't really comment on all these options.

However, a friend asked me the following rules-based question, which I am now passing on as well as I undetstand it:

In cardboard WiF, production is limited to those unit types for which there are counters available in the box and not yet deployed to the map - i.e. only a limited number of any unit type can be produced.

Since a computer does not have any such physical limits on the number of each unit type counter that can be produced, is it possible to set an option so that:

1. The numbers of each unit type that may be produced is limited to those available as counters in cardboard WiF
or
2. Unlimited numbers of each unit type may be produced.

I would expect that there may be named units - such as HQs - that it might not be desirable to produce in numbers in excess of those available in cardboard WiF.

So, will MWiF have limited, unlimited or selectable limits on production of units?

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ORIGINAL: c92nichj

Thanks for the list, it looks very much like the one I suggested with a few exceptions. Let me motivate them, not expecting you to change the list but just for the sake of it.

19. ITPE - I feel this option keeps the naval warfare more fluid.

20 Suprised Zoc's - Especiallly if playing with 1d10 I feel that France is a to tough nut to crack. To keep the historical timeline of vichying 22/6 '40 is very difficult against a component opponent. Suprised ZOC's will enable you to get through the ardennes as was done historically.

Facility repair. Keeping engineers repairing factories and subs is to much of a logistical problem than a strategic issue.

I feel that option 40 would be more forgiving for novice players to make mistakes in China. With the new map it will very easy to make a wrong move that gives the chineese an opportunity to kill off the japaneese army. It is more forgiving for the chineese as well as it discourages any early attacks, which you cannot afford to make.

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19. ITPE - I feel this option keeps the naval warfare more fluid.

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20 Suprised Zoc's - Especiallly if playing with 1d10 I feel that France is a to tough nut to crack. To keep the historical timeline of vichying 22/6 '40 is very difficult against a component opponent. Suprised ZOC's will enable you to get through the ardennes as was done historically.

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respecfully disagree here. Surprised ZoC makes for a 1939 Conquest of France too easy, and thus a harsh anti-CW strategy (Fall of Gibraltar in late 40 / early 41) too easy too, and nearly a no-brainer.
I used to play always with this option since it existed, but abandonned it because of that.

Blitzkrieg and Offensive Chits can break the French line quite easily in M/A or M/J 40 (baring very bad luck, but luck is also part of the game), and it is fine that way.

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If the CW does not abandon France, I do not see how the french line breaks easily by M/A '40, playing with 1D10 table, even if you play with the 2D10 table it is difficult to break the french line even with an offensive chit or two. Discounting extreme luck or poor wallied play I never seen France be Vichied/conquered by 22/6 '40.

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ORIGINAL: composer99

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If the CW does not abandon France, I do not see how the french line breaks easily by M/A '40, playing with 1D10 table, even if you play with the 2D10 table it is difficult to break the french line even with an offensive chit or two. Discounting extreme luck or poor wallied play I never seen France be Vichied/conquered by 22/6 '40.

I have no experience using the 1D10 table, so I could not say how difficult it is to break the French line or not, but I can say that with 2D10 it is quite do-able without using O-Chits. Provided you knock over the Netherlands while the Commonwealth's sea lift is otherwise occupied (say, shipping troops to the Med), you can run over Belgium pretty easy. Whether the Allies advance the one hexrow into Belgium or not, you can just put all your strongest ARM/MECH forces into two hexes by the hex you want to hit, make sure it's all flipped (or at least the corps are all flipped), and as long as the weather is good the blitz mods will take care of the rest. Oh, and roll higher than a 4 or 5.