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M-FB or NFL Head coach - 2/23/2006 9:24:48 PM

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Can someone give me a reason to buy Maximum football, with no licens.
When EA games are realeasing a game with the same consept soon.. And properly with licences'

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RE: M-FB or NFL Head coach - 2/23/2006 10:00:31 PM

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Two words: replay value.

A licensed game becomes outdated within a year because names change. Hence the reason why companies make whole new games every year.

MF will be as good of a game 5 years from now as it is today. Try saying that about Madden 2001 now.

Plus there's the customizability of MF, different rules available, etc.

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RE: M-FB or NFL Head coach - 2/23/2006 10:30:34 PM

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No reason to buy Max FB, if you want a license and everything that goes with it. Max won't have one.

i've never been an either/or guy. If both games are good, and did something i wanted a football game to do, i'd buy both.

But if you're only going to buy one. Wait. See what NFL Head Coach final feature list looks like. Get the info you need from them. Interestingly enough, i haven't seen any new info about what will be in this game or how it will work. But there is a link saying that the game will be released April 4th.

http://www.gamespot.com/ps2/sports/nflheadcoach/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26020476&pid=930413

Hopefully, by then Max FB is up and running and you can get the skinny on it. Then you can make your decision.

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RE: M-FB or NFL Head coach - 2/23/2006 11:46:32 PM

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MF will be as good of a game 5 years from now as it is today.

If history is any indication, that's a distinct possibility.

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RE: M-FB or NFL Head coach - 2/24/2006 1:23:11 AM

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never been an either/or guy. If both games are good, and did something i wanted a football game to do, i'd buy both.

But if you're only going to buy one. Wait. See what NFL Head Coach final feature list looks like

I'm buying maximum football period, but thats a lot of time updating rosters, but if you done mind it's good

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RE: M-FB or NFL Head coach - 2/24/2006 4:07:38 AM

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Can someone give me a reason to buy Maximum football, with no license, when EA games are realeasing a game with the same consept soon.. And properly with licences'

NFL Head Coach will be ported from consoles, so it may not have as much depth or be as open as Maximum-Football. Madden Football was killed for league gamers because it became a console arcade game.

I would have been really interested in NFL Head Coach had I not seen the screenshots and found out that it likely will be console crippled. NFL Head Coach could be a good game, but so far, it doesn't look impressive.

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RE: M-FB or NFL Head coach - 2/24/2006 5:08:31 AM

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Marauders,

What screenshots from NFL Head Coach have you seen. Because so far, i've only seen two.

i keep feeling like i'm missing something. Especially after i snooped around today and saw the announcement/rumour of an April 4th release date. i'm wondering how they are ready to release something that they've never released a full feature list for the game. Or shown any screenshots. i haven't even seen any interviews by developers talking about the game.

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RE: M-FB or NFL Head coach - 2/24/2006 5:43:22 AM

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I can't help but think that NFL head coach will have alot of restrictions like Madden does and it will probably just be roster updates and different 2d screens for every new edition and maybe take out 2 features and add a crappy from time to time.

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RE: M-FB or NFL Head coach - 2/24/2006 5:43:53 AM

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What screenshots from NFL Head Coach have you seen. Because so far, i've only seen two.

That's about all there is to see. Nothing substantial about head coach and GM gaming is shown. So far, it looks like The Sims coaching expansion more than anything else.

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RE: M-FB or NFL Head coach - 2/24/2006 11:34:41 AM

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Thanks for all the replys..
And you're right.. There is a lack of information about NFL Head coach..
Think in going to buy M-FB.. Can always edit some of the names..
Again.. thanks for the replys

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RE: M-FB or NFL Head coach - 2/24/2006 8:56:45 PM

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What screenshots from NFL Head Coach have you seen. Because so far, i've only seen two.

That's about all there is to see. Nothing substantial about head coach and GM gaming is shown. So far, it looks like The Sims coaching expansion more than anything else.

Thanks, Marauders.

The Sims, yeah that's a good description.

What's weird is that not only has EA Sports not released any info about this game. i haven't many people in forums clamoring for info. Here and other boards that i frequent, there are people constantly talking about MaxFB (both positive and negative) but nothing about Head Coach. No one is demanding any info. No one is demanding any screen shots. No one is demanding a release date.

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RE: M-FB or NFL Head coach - 3/7/2006 9:23:12 PM

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Can someone give me a reason to buy Maximum football, with no licens.
When EA games are realeasing a game with the same consept soon.. And properly with licences'

I do not believe it, EASports is all about the mean green and fluff of Sports Gaming (their terrible play editing FootBall Games are just perfect examples)! Look at how they are making one-Video Game for each: Arena, Street, CFB and NFL and making money. Why would they stop (beyond selling out development of FootBall) when they can sucker their customers into buying it. F.P.S.: F.B.P. '98 was and still is better than any EASports' FootBall Game made. I am not sure, yet, about Maximum FootBall; however, it is not hard to go beyond just fluff.

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RE: M-FB or NFL Head coach - 3/18/2006 11:02:13 PM

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ORIGINAL: koooo4

Can someone give me a reason to buy Maximum football, with no licens.
When EA games are realeasing a game with the same consept soon.. And properly with licences'

I do not believe it, EASports is all about the mean green and fluff of Sports Gaming (their terrible play editing FootBall Games are just perfect examples)! Look at how they are making one-Video Game for each: Arena, Street, CFB and NFL and making money. Why would they stop (beyond selling out development of FootBall) when they can sucker their customers into buying it. F.P.S.: F.B.P. '98 was and still is better than any EASports' FootBall Game made. I am not sure, yet, about Maximum FootBall; however, it is not hard to go beyond just fluff.

---I don't bout some EA games

-But Arena footbal is pretty Good
-Madden is way better than fps '98 and '97

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RE: M-FB or NFL Head coach - 3/19/2006 2:39:27 AM

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-Madden is way better than fps '98 and '97

Dude, you must be smokin' some wicked stuff.

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RE: M-FB or NFL Head coach - 3/19/2006 3:08:56 AM

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Agreed!

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RE: M-FB or NFL Head coach - 3/19/2006 3:35:49 AM

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1-Don't call me dude

2-YOu must be smoking some wicked stuff.

3-If FPS pro was such a better game it'd b around and madden probably wouldn't and we'd all be tlaking about how good it is.

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RE: M-FB or NFL Head coach - 3/19/2006 4:35:40 AM

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Whatever dude.

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RE: M-FB or NFL Head coach - 3/19/2006 8:33:47 AM

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If FPS pro was such a better game it'd b around and madden probably wouldn't and we'd all be tlaking about how good it is.

I would suspect that many people in this forum still have FBPro available to play. It is still around, but it is dated. It was killed after Vivendi took over Sierra. Vivendi did not want to take on the EA Sports behemoth.

Madden looks good, but it is a console arcade game. EA Sports wonders why the PC sales are so low when the game actually offers less on the PC than on the console versions. If Madden had open files and league creation utilities, as well as an AI that didn't have to cheat to work, it would have been great. But it has been weighed; it has been measured, and it has been found wanting.

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RE: M-FB or NFL Head coach - 3/20/2006 12:44:32 AM

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It is still around, but it is dated. It was killed after Vivendi took over Sierra. Vivendi did not want to take on the EA Sports behemoth.

Madden looks good, but it is a console arcade game. EA Sports wonders why the PC sales are so low when the game actually offers less on the PC than on the console versions. If Madden had open files and league creation utilities, as well as an AI that didn't have to cheat to work, it would have been great. But it has been weighed; it has been measured, and it has been found wanting.

1- That's what i meant by not around, it's dated old, no new versions coming out

2- Madden has good a.i AND It's adjustible

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RE: M-FB or NFL Head coach - 3/21/2006 9:00:06 AM

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If Sierra was never sold I think we would still have Fbpro today.

Vivendi killed off alot of successfull games like Leisure Suit Larry and a much anticipated Lord of the Rings Game that never made it to the shelves. Also a Basketball game that was gonna be like fbpro

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RE: M-FB or NFL Head coach - 3/21/2006 9:59:35 AM

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Leisure Suit Larry

Now that was a game!

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RE: M-FB or NFL Head coach - 3/21/2006 8:01:58 PM

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Still playing FPS Pro 98, along with many, which is a huge compliment to how good the game is given the amount of time that has gone by since it was supported.

Madden is pretty CFL_Fan_7, but FPS Pro is the true meat and potatoes. I don't care about pretty, I want flexibility and the tools to design plays and make a difference.

I was reading through the FBPro manual the other (needed something while doing a #2 ;), and still cannot believe how much thought, detail, and intelligence was biult into that game back then. Oh where it would be today...

Maximum Football is the future gents...

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RE: M-FB or NFL Head coach - 3/21/2006 8:02:43 PM

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Leisure Suit Larry

Now that was a game!

God bless Larry

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RE: M-FB or NFL Head coach - 3/22/2006 9:31:03 AM

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If Sierra was never sold I think we would still have Fbpro today.

Vivendi killed off alot of successfull games like Leisure Suit Larry and a much anticipated Lord of the Rings Game that never made it to the shelves. Also a Basketball game that was gonna be like fbpro

Forgot about Basketball Pro, I think they had a forum up right before they moved off to to Bull Riding Pro insted.

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RE: M-FB or NFL Head coach - 3/22/2006 10:08:21 AM

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Why is this thread in the Wishlist area?

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RE: M-FB or NFL Head coach - 3/22/2006 3:16:52 PM

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Why is this thread in the Wishlist area?

Because I wish it would go away?

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RE: M-FB or NFL Head coach - 3/22/2006 10:21:15 PM

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If Sierra was never sold I think we would still have Fbpro today.

Vivendi killed off alot of successfull games like Leisure Suit Larry and a much anticipated Lord of the Rings Game that never made it to the shelves. Also a Basketball game that was gonna be like fbpro

Forgot about Basketball Pro, I think they had a forum up right before they moved off to to Bull Riding Pro insted.

Wow! i forgot about Basketball Pro, too. Sigh...

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RE: M-FB or NFL Head coach - 3/23/2006 2:10:18 AM

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I remember seeing a screen shot of both Baseball Pro 99 and Basketball Pro 99, I beleive both games were going to use a very similar engine as Football Pro 99.

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RE: M-FB or NFL Head coach - 3/23/2006 6:02:06 PM

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Still playing FPS Pro 98, along with many, which is a huge compliment to how good the game is given the amount of time that has gone by since it was supported.

Madden is pretty CFL_Fan_7, but FPS Pro is the true meat and potatoes. I don't care about pretty, I want flexibility and the tools to design plays and make a difference.

I was reading through the FBPro manual the other (needed something while doing a #2 ;), and still cannot believe how much thought, detail, and intelligence was biult into that game back then. Oh where it would be today...

Maximum Football is the future gents...

-YOU CAN DESIGN PLAYS!!
-THey use authentic NFL playbooks too

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RE: M-FB or NFL Head coach - 3/23/2006 11:58:59 PM

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-THey use authentic NFL playbooks too

Not really. Games may use playbooks based on an NFL style, but none of them are even close to an NFL playbook. NFL playbooks are huge, and no coach would give up their playbook to any game company. I am sure B.C. and Old Coach can back me on this.

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