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RE: IS 2 Sneer vs Andy Mac - 4/13/2006 1:52:17 PM   
Sneer


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Status: offline 		i forgot to mention - 1st assault on Manila today !!!

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great day of Japanese Forces - 4/13/2006 9:44:13 PM   
Sneer


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Status: offline 		Carriers found POW and sunk her
nells hit 2 cruisers at palembang
naval action at kavieng and 2 DD sunk
airfield in singapore hit - however andy moved torp planes out
114 allied planes vs 50 jap this turn - this mod is really bloosy
manila attack - forts taken down to 0 0:1 result
ap 2:1 advantage in numbers
big disruption
biggest surprise
dutch BC station at christmas Isl - i doubt i will catch them but i will try
second surprise canton Isl tf without air cover
arizona ate 6 torps ( should sink after that) and nevada 1 - i took risk and decided to stay day more
there are many subs around and there is tf south of unknown type
great victory today - celebrations announced in Tokyo



AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/20/41

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Sub attack at 45,55

Japanese Ships
PC Shonan Maru #2, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
PG Kure Maru #5
PC Ch 3
PC Ch 2
PC Ch 1
PC Shonan Maru #1
PC Kyo Maru #12
PC Kyo Maru #11
PC Kyo Maru #2

Allied Ships
SS S-39

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Kuching at 27,56

Japanese Ships
CL Isuzu, Shell hits 1
CL Tama, Shell hits 1
DD Minekaze, Shell hits 2
DD Asagao, Shell hits 1, on fire
DD Fuyo, Shell hits 1
DD Karukaya

Allied Ships
DD Evertsen, Shell hits 5, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
DD Van Speyk, Shell hits 13, on fire

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ASW attack at 45,55

Japanese Ships
DD Hikugumo
DD Soragumo
DD Harugumo
DD Kaosame
DD Asashio

Allied Ships
SS S-39, hits 1

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TF 216 troops unloading over beach at Jolo Island, 39,59


Japanese ground losses:
67 casualties reported

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Sub attack at 32,74

Japanese Ships
SS RO-68

Allied Ships
AK Surigao, Torpedo hits 1, on fire


Allied ground losses:
32 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

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Sub attack at 22,54

Japanese Ships
SS RO-63

Allied Ships
AK Hermion, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

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Day Air attack on Singapore , at 22,51

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 65
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 17
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 8
Ki-32 Mary x 47
Ki-51 Sonia x 78

Allied aircraft
Sea Hurricane x 22
Wirraway x 2
Brewster 339D x 3
Hurricane IIb x 17
Spitfire Vb x 11
Kittyhawk I x 6
P-40B Tomahawk x 13
Beaufighter IC x 2
Spitfire Type 355 x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 11 destroyed, 5 damaged
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 3 destroyed, 2 damaged
Ki-44-IIb Tojo: 7 destroyed
Ki-32 Mary: 6 destroyed, 17 damaged
Ki-51 Sonia: 10 destroyed, 34 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Sea Hurricane: 15 destroyed
Wirraway: 2 destroyed
Brewster 339D: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
Hurricane IIb: 10 destroyed
Spitfire Vb: 9 destroyed
Kittyhawk I: 8 destroyed
P-40B Tomahawk: 9 destroyed
Beaufighter IC: 2 destroyed
Spitfire Type 355: 2 destroyed
Beaufort I: 2 destroyed
Wellington III: 1 destroyed
Hudson I: 1 destroyed
Blenheim IV: 1 destroyed
Defiant II: 1 destroyed
Swordfish: 1 destroyed


Allied ground losses:
10 casualties reported

Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 67

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
7 x Ki-32 Mary bombing at 2000 feet
11 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
30 x Ki-32 Mary bombing at 2000 feet
20 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
2 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
2 x Ki-32 Mary bombing at 2000 feet
2 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
2 x Ki-32 Mary bombing at 2000 feet
3 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 21st Mixed Brigade, at 30,35


Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 3


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
8 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Merak at 19,59

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 27

Allied aircraft
Hawk 75A x 3
Brewster 339D x 8
Martin 139 x 11

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Hawk 75A: 2 destroyed
Brewster 339D: 4 destroyed
Martin 139: 2 destroyed, 7 damaged

Japanese Ships
CV Soryu
CV Donryu

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x Martin 139 bombing at 6000 feet
1 x Martin 139 bombing at 6000 feet
2 x Martin 139 bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Martin 139 bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Merak at 19,59

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 27

Allied aircraft
Sea Hurricane x 9
Swordfish x 24
Albacore x 12
Martin 139 x 7

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Sea Hurricane: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged
Swordfish: 8 destroyed, 8 damaged
Albacore: 11 destroyed
Martin 139: 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
CVL Taiho
CV Soryu
CL Suzuka
CV Donryu

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Martin 139 bombing at 10000 feet
4 x Martin 139 bombing at 10000 feet
1 x Albacore launching torpedoes at 200 feet
1 x Swordfish launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x Swordfish launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x Swordfish launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x Swordfish launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x Swordfish launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 99,98


Allied aircraft
F4F-3 Wildcat x 3
B-17D Fortress x 3
B-17E Fortress x 1


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
PG Aikoku Maru

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-17D Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
1 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 17,62

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 25
D3A2 Val x 24
B5N2 Kate x 33

Allied aircraft
CW-21B Demon x 2
P-40B Tomahawk x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 2 destroyed, 5 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
CW-21B Demon: 3 destroyed
P-40B Tomahawk: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged

Allied Ships
BB Prince of Wales, Bomb hits 5, Torpedo hits 6, on fire, heavy damage
DD Jervis

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x D3A2 Val bombing at 2000 feet
4 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x D3A2 Val bombing at 2000 feet
4 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
9 x D3A2 Val bombing at 2000 feet
3 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
9 x D3A2 Val bombing at 2000 feet
4 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 24,58

Japanese aircraft
G3M Nell x 6

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Bengalen

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Palembang at 20,55

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 16
G3M Nell x 13

Allied aircraft
Hawk 75A x 9
Brewster 339D x 13
Hurricane IIb x 2

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
G3M Nell: 1 destroyed, 6 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Hawk 75A: 3 destroyed
Brewster 339D: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged
Hurricane IIb: 2 damaged

Allied Ships
CL Perth, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
CA Hawkins, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 45,65

Japanese aircraft
G3M Nell x 8

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M Nell: 5 damaged

Allied Ships
AS Canopus, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Ormoc at 44,56

Japanese aircraft
G3M Nell x 7

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Sagoland, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Ormoc at 44,56

Japanese aircraft
G3M Nell x 11

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Anshun, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Roxas at 43,55

Japanese aircraft
B5N2 Kate x 8

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Fortuna, Bomb hits 6, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B5N2 Kate bombing at 5000 feet
4 x B5N2 Kate bombing at 5000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Singkawang at 25,56

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 3
G3M Nell x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M Nell: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
DD Van Speyk, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Pontianak at 24,57

Japanese aircraft
G3M Nell x 3

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Mapia

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Canton Island at 100,100

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 20
B5N2 Kate x 36

Allied aircraft
F4F-3 Wildcat x 2

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 24 damaged


Allied Ships
BB Arizona, Torpedo hits 6, on fire, heavy damage
BB Nevada, Torpedo hits 1
BB Maryland
CA Chicago
DMS Boggs, Torpedo hits 4, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Merak at 19,59

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 24

Allied aircraft
Sea Hurricane x 4
Hurricane IIb x 3
Martin 139 x 3
P-40E Warhawk x 2

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Sea Hurricane: 2 destroyed
Martin 139: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
CVL Taiho

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Martin 139 bombing at 10000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 28,55


Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 3
B-17E Fortress x 2


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
CL Tama
DD Asagao

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Blenheim IV bombing at 10000 feet
2 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 10000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 45,60

Japanese aircraft
G3M Nell x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M Nell: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
AP Basilan, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 24,54

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 21
G3M Nell x 2

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Patras, Torpedo hits 1, on fire

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 52,65

Japanese aircraft
G3M Nell x 20

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AVD Heron, Bomb hits 1, on fire

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x G3M Nell bombing at 10000 feet
4 x G3M Nell bombing at 10000 feet
4 x G3M Nell bombing at 10000 feet
4 x G3M Nell bombing at 10000 feet
4 x G3M Nell bombing at 10000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 23,52

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 3
G3M Nell x 3

Allied aircraft
Sea Hurricane x 2
P-40B Tomahawk x 1

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
AK Straat Soenda

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 34,48

Japanese aircraft
B5N2 Kate x 6

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
PG Tutuila, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Christmas Island IO at 15,62

Japanese aircraft
G3M Nell x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M Nell: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged

Allied Ships
BC Australia
BC De Zeven Provincien

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x G3M Nell bombing at 5000 feet
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 5000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 21,56

Japanese aircraft
G3M Nell x 3

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Empire Ibex, Torpedo hits 1, on fire

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Sub attack at 32,74

Japanese Ships
SS RO-68

Allied Ships
AK Surigao, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage


Allied ground losses:
36 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 1


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Ground combat at Manila

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 149432 troops, 1316 guns, 224 vehicles

Defending force 68665 troops, 394 guns, 263 vehicles

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 0

Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 0)


Japanese ground losses:
6316 casualties reported
Guns lost 145
Vehicles lost 14

Allied ground losses:
1522 casualties reported
Guns lost 18
Vehicles lost 3


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Ground combat at 50,29

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 22356 troops, 191 guns, 70 vehicles

Defending force 14289 troops, 72 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1


Japanese ground losses:
213 casualties reported
Guns lost 7

Allied ground losses:
123 casualties reported
Guns lost 3


Defeated Allied Units Retreating!


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RE: IS 2 Sneer vs Andy Mac - 4/13/2006 11:03:45 PM   
Sneer


Posts: 2654
Joined: 10/29/2003
Status: offline 		small kb low on fuel after this raid - northern route too dangerous - torp planes + PT boats - going to Davao
Bataan taken
baby KB chased by US carriers - hopefully they missed my place - they have 2/4 hexes speed advantage - so it may be hot - i'll try to force them to burn their fuel in chase so they will be unable to strike
nells ordered to strike on 2 damaged cruisers in palembang
there is a movement like on highway close to singapore i fear he may sneak single transport with supply
good news -retalitory strike on kuantan hit almost empty airfield -all DB were moved to singora
also blockade of PI is almost 100% working - my naval forces hunted many ships - rest - almost all was hit by my bombers
singapore with so strong airpower is a pain in the ass

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/21/41

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Sub attack at 97,105

Japanese Ships
SS I-9

Allied Ships
DD Porter
DD Blue
BC Constitution
DD Shaw
DD Dewey
DD Tucker
DD Fanning
DD Flusser

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Night Time Surface Combat at 41,55

Japanese Ships
CL Naka
DD Arashi
DD Hatsuaki
DD Hatsunatsu
DD Urakaze
DD Tokitsukaze
DD Yukigumo
DD Yaegumo

Allied Ships
AK Anakan, Shell hits 31, and is sunk

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Night Time Surface Combat at 41,55

Japanese Ships
CL Naka
DD Arashi
DD Hatsuaki
DD Hatsunatsu
DD Urakaze
DD Tokitsukaze
DD Yukigumo
DD Yaegumo

Allied Ships
AK Candesa, Shell hits 46, and is sunk

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Night Time Surface Combat at 41,55

Japanese Ships
CL Naka
DD Arashi
DD Hatsuaki
DD Hatsunatsu
DD Urakaze
DD Tokitsukaze
DD Yukigumo
DD Yaegumo

Allied Ships
AK Paz, Shell hits 54, and is sunk
AK Capillo, Shell hits 26, and is sunk

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Night Time Surface Combat at 41,56

Japanese Ships
PC Shumushu, Shell hits 1
PC Hachijo, Shell hits 2
PC Kunashiri

Allied Ships
AS Holland, Shell hits 6, on fire, heavy damage

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Day Air attack on Kuantan , at 24,48

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 42
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 11
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 3

Allied aircraft
Sea Hurricane x 16
Wirraway x 3
Hurricane IIb x 11
Spitfire Vb x 3
CW-22 Falcon x 5
Blenheim IV x 40
Wellington III x 23
Hudson I x 29
Beaufort I x 16
P-40B Tomahawk x 2
B-17D Fortress x 3
B-17E Fortress x 15
LB-30 Liberator x 6
Beaufighter IC x 14
Spitfire Type 355 x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 6 destroyed, 16 damaged
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 6 destroyed
Ki-44-IIb Tojo: 2 damaged
Ki-51 Sonia: 7 destroyed
G3M Nell: 1 destroyed
Ki-32 Mary: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Sea Hurricane: 10 destroyed
Wirraway: 2 destroyed
Hurricane IIb: 4 destroyed, 3 damaged
Spitfire Vb: 2 destroyed
Blenheim IV: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged
Wellington III: 1 destroyed
Hudson I: 5 damaged
P-40B Tomahawk: 1 destroyed
B-17E Fortress: 1 damaged
LB-30 Liberator: 1 damaged
Beaufighter IC: 8 destroyed
Spitfire Type 355: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
358 casualties reported

Airbase hits 7
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 39

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 10000 feet
3 x LB-30 Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-17D Fortress bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Blenheim IV bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Beaufort I bombing at 10000 feet
7 x Blenheim IV bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Hudson I bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Hudson I bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Blenheim IV bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 10000 feet
4 x Wellington III bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Beaufort I bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Hudson I bombing at 10000 feet
3 x LB-30 Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Blenheim IV bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Beaufort I bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Blenheim IV bombing at 10000 feet
2 x Blenheim IV bombing at 10000 feet
6 x Hudson I bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Hudson I bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Blenheim IV bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 10000 feet
4 x Wellington III bombing at 10000 feet
2 x Beaufort I bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Hudson I bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Beaufort I bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Blenheim IV bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Hudson I bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Hudson I bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Blenheim IV bombing at 10000 feet
2 x Wellington III bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 10000 feet
2 x Hudson I bombing at 10000 feet
2 x Beaufort I bombing at 10000 feet
2 x Blenheim IV bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 10000 feet
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Day Air attack on Imperial Guards Division, at 30,35


Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 3


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
9 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 103,96


Allied aircraft
B-17D Fortress x 3
B-17E Fortress x 2


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
PG Aikoku Maru

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-17D Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
2 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 17,69

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 29
D3A2 Val x 49
B5N2 Kate x 47

Japanese aircraft losses
D3A2 Val: 2 damaged
B5N2 Kate: 4 damaged

Allied Ships
DD Nubian, Bomb hits 1, on fire
CL Danae, Bomb hits 4, Torpedo hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
DD Javelin, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Jersey, Bomb hits 7, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
DD Jervis, Bomb hits 1, on fire
DD Janus

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x D3A2 Val bombing at 2000 feet
1 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
6 x D3A2 Val bombing at 2000 feet
2 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
9 x D3A2 Val bombing at 2000 feet
9 x D3A2 Val bombing at 2000 feet
4 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
9 x D3A2 Val bombing at 2000 feet
9 x D3A2 Val bombing at 2000 feet
4 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on TF at 17,69

Japanese aircraft
B5N2 Kate x 35

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
DD Active, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
2 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on TF at 54,67

Japanese aircraft
G3M Nell x 8

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AVD Heron, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x G3M Nell bombing at 10000 feet
4 x G3M Nell bombing at 10000 feet
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on TF, near Manila at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
B5N2 Kate x 9

Allied aircraft
P-40E Warhawk x 3

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
TK Gertrude Kellogg, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on TF at 40,55

Japanese aircraft
G3M Nell x 13

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AS Holland, Torpedo hits 6, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 17,69

Japanese aircraft
D3A2 Val x 23
B5N2 Kate x 68

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 3 damaged

Allied Ships
DD Janus, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
DD Hereward, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
DD Javelin, Bomb hits 3, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Nubian, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
DD Jervis, on fire

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
5 x D3A2 Val bombing at 2000 feet
2 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
1 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
9 x D3A2 Val bombing at 2000 feet
9 x D3A2 Val bombing at 2000 feet
4 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on TF at 24,54

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 22
G3M Nell x 9

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Bengalen, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on TF at 23,52

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 3
G3M Nell x 6

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Patras, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on TF at 22,54

Japanese aircraft
G3M Nell x 6

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Straat Soenda, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 23,52

Japanese aircraft
G3M Nell x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M Nell: 3 damaged

Allied Ships
AK Kota Gedeh, Torpedo hits 1, on fire

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Pontianak at 24,57

Japanese aircraft
G3M Nell x 3

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Mapia

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 22,54

Japanese aircraft
G3M Nell x 3

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Empire Ibex, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Christmas Island IO at 15,62

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 29
D3A2 Val x 19

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Empire Strength, Bomb hits 8, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x D3A2 Val bombing at 2000 feet
9 x D3A2 Val bombing at 2000 feet
9 x D3A2 Val bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Muntok at 21,55

Japanese aircraft
G3M Nell x 2

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Elcano, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet

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Ground combat at Bataan

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 4710 troops, 22 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 2430 troops, 54 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 10 to 1 (fort level 4)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Bataan base !!!



Allied aircraft
no flights


Allied aircraft losses
PBY Catalina: 3 destroyed

Japanese ground losses:
105 casualties reported
Guns lost 4

Allied ground losses:
885 casualties reported
Guns lost 22


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Ground combat at Manila

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 3896 troops, 90 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 66544 troops, 357 guns, 258 vehicles



Allied ground losses:
89 casualties reported
Guns lost 2


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Ground combat at Jolo Island

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 956 troops, 2 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles

Japanese assault odds: 8 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Jolo Island base !!!




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RE: IS 2 Sneer vs Andy Mac - 4/14/2006 10:52:55 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Sneer

singapore with so strong airpower is a pain in the ass



Hi, i found that defensive position in Malaya skies can achive air victory.

Since every clever Allied player using his planes in the offensive actions his airfields are almost empty (no CAP no grounded planes) it could be good idea to ambush him with 60-80 Zeros and break his will to fight there. (it worked against Andy)


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RE: IS 2 Sneer vs Andy Mac - 4/14/2006 11:00:48 AM   
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Status: offline 		you may see i often use 60-80 fighters in one place but...
remember there are more planes in this mod - 2 spitfires + 4 hurris sqn + defiants + 2 beufighters +2 wirraways+ dutch
second there is whole AVG here and third there are sea hurricanes taken off CV - 3 sqn of them
there is no way a tactic from stock version to work
nominally he has 17 sqn of Fgt or FB in singapore + dutch it is over 200 of fighters
80 zeros can't break their will

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RE: IS 2 Sneer vs Andy Mac - 4/17/2006 7:37:56 PM   
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RE: IS 2 Sneer vs Andy Mac - 4/17/2006 8:51:19 PM   
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Status: offline 		1st day of heavy beating delivered to JPN
it is one thing to read that NIK mod has leaking cap and second one to see 30+ elite zeros unable to disrupt attack of 17 unescorted dauntless ( only 1 was shot down )
i fear that from one extreme ( stock version) we moved to second extreme -( Nik mod)
carrier battles will be extremaly interesting in this game - a lot of sunk ships should be seen

i gambled to stay with my forces one day longer at canton and i lost
i had some hope that US TFs sprinting from suva will be low of fuel and that battle will occur next turn but they managed to position well
overaggressivness costed me CVE ( second CVE is HD and 2 CVL are MD)
i have 30 fighters but can't lauch them
BTW i was very surprised to see devastators with range of 4

tomorrow assault on manila - it should be taken soon - but i still have no idea what to do with released forces. (2.2-2.5k)
reinforcing singapore is wrong way of thinking - 38th from HK will unload next day at khota baru and my forces will reach 2.5k-3.0k of strenght - enough - it will be my regional reserve force in case Andy realises how strong is he there
local air superiority is still in Andy's hands but it can be contested
there is no way to support with navy and Andy will have 2k + troops on rising forts
looks like unless i starve them there is no way to finish that campaign in malaya - with good luck i can take johore baru but there is no way i can cross river at singapore -with so strong enemy it will be massacre and our nice land combat engine will use shock attack on every troops - bridgeheads are unknown to matrix staff
if Andy will be smart he will rotate troops between Singapore and Johore and counterattack in good moment - i belive he is good enough player to see it - shame on me i noticed that so late

at scenerio beginning there is 40k supply at Singapore
I assume with so many ships at sea in last 3 weeks he could double that figure and he will be able to move troops and supply in as long as he keeps batavia secured
with so high supply he will fight for air superioirity by all means available - atrition fight for Japan with lowered supplies in this mod can be decisive - i hope i will be not the first player who will loose war in 42 during malaya campaign

so my next step will be taking Java - starting with batavia or going by southern borneo with 1 big operation - but i don't have so big transport lift

Question is - is Andy able to push me out of Malaya when he decides to reinforce with 1-2 good inf div within next month??? - i know it is weird but i'm still impressed with amount of changes in this mod - i doubt if Andy is fully ready to rethink whole strategic situation ???
1 bad result of my attack at Johore and Andy's counterattack can push me out of place - weird isn't it ??

there is no doubt - there will be no fight for india - there is doubt there will be any fight in burma in 1st half of 42

One good thing : i think i will end taking Japan player job and next game will be IS2 but as allied - i don't really have any clue how to solve the task Alikchi delivered to me
it is interesting game and obviously i will try to see what happens in DEI in next month
but i would bet all my money for allied player at this moment



AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/22/41

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Sub attack at 16,71

Japanese Ships
SS I-159

Allied Ships
DD Ashanti, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

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Day Air attack on Palembang , at 20,55

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 24
G3M Nell x 53

Allied aircraft
Hawk 75A x 3
Brewster 339D x 12
Hurricane IIb x 1

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 2 destroyed
G3M Nell: 1 destroyed, 11 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Hawk 75A: 2 destroyed
Brewster 339D: 3 destroyed, 4 damaged
Hurricane IIb: 1 destroyed

Allied Ships
CA Hawkins, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage


Allied ground losses:
6 casualties reported

Port hits 2
Port fuel hits 1
Port supply hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x G3M Nell bombing at 5000 feet
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 5000 feet
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 5000 feet
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 5000 feet
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 5000 feet
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 5000 feet
5 x G3M Nell bombing at 5000 feet
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 5000 feet
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 5000 feet
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 5000 feet
3 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 5000 feet
2 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 5000 feet
3 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on 71st Reserve Division, at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 31
Ki-21-II Sally x 129
Ki-48-I Lily x 24

Allied aircraft
P-40E Warhawk x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-II Sally: 2 destroyed, 16 damaged
Ki-48-I Lily: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged


Allied ground losses:
189 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Aircraft Attacking:
18 x Ki-21-II Sally bombing at 10000 feet
11 x Ki-21-II Sally bombing at 10000 feet
13 x Ki-21-II Sally bombing at 10000 feet
20 x Ki-21-II Sally bombing at 10000 feet
15 x Ki-21-II Sally bombing at 10000 feet
23 x Ki-48-I Lily bombing at 10000 feet
15 x Ki-21-II Sally bombing at 10000 feet
20 x Ki-21-II Sally bombing at 10000 feet
15 x Ki-21-II Sally bombing at 10000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 102,104


Allied aircraft
F4F-3 Wildcat x 2
B-17D Fortress x 3
B-17E Fortress x 1


Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
PG Hokoku Maru

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-17D Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
1 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 17,73

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 29
D3A2 Val x 42
B5N2 Kate x 23

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Modjekerto, Bomb hits 7, on fire, heavy damage
AK Tjisaroea, Bomb hits 7, on fire, heavy damage
AK Duymaer van Twist, Bomb hits 15, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x D3A2 Val bombing at 2000 feet
3 x B5N2 Kate bombing at 5000 feet
5 x D3A2 Val bombing at 2000 feet
9 x D3A2 Val bombing at 2000 feet
9 x D3A2 Val bombing at 2000 feet
4 x B5N2 Kate bombing at 5000 feet
4 x B5N2 Kate bombing at 5000 feet
4 x B5N2 Kate bombing at 5000 feet
4 x B5N2 Kate bombing at 5000 feet
4 x B5N2 Kate bombing at 5000 feet
9 x D3A2 Val bombing at 2000 feet
9 x D3A2 Val bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Manila at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
B5N2 Kate x 9

Allied aircraft
P-40E Warhawk x 2

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
TK Gertrude Kellogg, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 103,90

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 50

Allied aircraft
F4F-3 Wildcat x 14
SBD Dauntless x 34
TBD Devastator x 36

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 2 destroyed, 5 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-3 Wildcat: 9 destroyed
SBD Dauntless: 10 destroyed, 14 damaged
TBD Devastator: 6 destroyed, 15 damaged

Japanese Ships
CVE Taiyo, Bomb hits 4, on fire
BB Settsu, Bomb hits 1
CVL Unho, Bomb hits 1
CVL Junho, Bomb hits 1, on fire
CVE Hosho, Bomb hits 5, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
2 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
3 x TBD Devastator bombing at 5000 feet
3 x TBD Devastator bombing at 5000 feet
4 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
4 x TBD Devastator bombing at 5000 feet
4 x TBD Devastator bombing at 5000 feet
4 x TBD Devastator bombing at 5000 feet
4 x TBD Devastator bombing at 5000 feet
4 x TBD Devastator bombing at 5000 feet
4 x TBD Devastator bombing at 5000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 103,90

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 31

Allied aircraft
SBD Dauntless x 17

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
SBD Dauntless: 1 destroyed, 15 damaged

Japanese Ships
CVE Hosho, on fire, heavy damage
CVE Taiyo, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
BB Settsu

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 103,90

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 34

Allied aircraft
F4F-3 Wildcat x 6
SBD Dauntless x 17

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 4 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-3 Wildcat: 3 destroyed
SBD Dauntless: 4 destroyed, 9 damaged

Japanese Ships
CVE Hosho, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
BB Settsu
CVL Unho, Bomb hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
2 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 103,90

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 29

Allied aircraft
F4F-3 Wildcat x 9
SBD Dauntless x 34
TBD Devastator x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-3 Wildcat: 1 destroyed, 7 damaged
SBD Dauntless: 10 damaged
TBD Devastator: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
CVE Taiyo, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
CVE Hosho, Bomb hits 8, on fire, heavy damage
CVL Junho, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
CVL Unho, Bomb hits 1, on fire
CL Aoba, Bomb hits 2
CL Tenryu

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
1 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
2 x TBD Devastator bombing at 5000 feet
4 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
3 x TBD Devastator bombing at 5000 feet
4 x TBD Devastator bombing at 5000 feet
4 x TBD Devastator bombing at 5000 feet
4 x TBD Devastator bombing at 5000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 100,92

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 21
B5N2 Kate x 35

Allied aircraft
F4F-3 Wildcat x 41

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 3 destroyed, 1 damaged
B5N2 Kate: 7 destroyed, 20 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-3 Wildcat: 7 destroyed, 6 damaged

Allied Ships
CV Saratoga
CA Salt Lake City
BC Constellation, Torpedo hits 1
CV Enterprise

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 100,92

Japanese aircraft
B5N2 Kate x 8

Allied aircraft
F4F-3 Wildcat x 34

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 8 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-3 Wildcat: 1 damaged


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Ground combat at Manila

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 3960 troops, 93 guns, 0 vehicles

Defending force 66773 troops, 365 guns, 265 vehicles



Allied ground losses:
299 casualties reported
Guns lost 9



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RE: IS 2 Sneer vs Andy Mac - 4/18/2006 12:50:22 AM   
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Status: offline 		So far I have only played as the Allies. In this game it seems to me that the Japanese cannot make too many mistakes from Day 1 or they could pay for them.
It seems that it is very bloody for both sides and I said so on Andy's AAR.
Do you think the Allied are a little too strong at the beginning??
I will wait till later in the year (after 1.8 and some more playtesting of IS) before I try this scenario.

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RE: IS 2 Sneer vs Andy Mac - 4/18/2006 1:16:55 AM   
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Status: offline 		i think they got far too many ground units too fast
andy brown's map is best way to stop blitz inland war

but look at numbers

in stock version there is sth like 500AP in malaya and still it takes many players quite long to bring it down - usually jap forces are +/- 2k AP strong

in IS i have 2.5-3k AP - as JAP forces are slightly stronger
enemy has over 2k AP + forts + river at singapore + air forces at least as strong as Jap ones

show me where operation was planned with amphibious elements without air superiority with low supply margin when there no number/quality advantage against defensor

we are equal with air strenght
there are 20+ fgt/FB sqn in close area + bomber force
strong CD guns cover airfields as well as good number of torpedo planes

i'm 50% stronger in land units ( in stock version Jap player is 3 times stronger)

simply adding same amount of forces changes multiples and favours defender
unless i take batavia i will be unable to stop supply / reinforcements flowing to Singapore

i did not check reinforcements for Andy but i wouldn't be surprised if they are bigger and earlier than in stock version
you need to put 2 inf div in Java fast till end of Jan 42 and Singapore is almost safe for next few months

i don't have supply / equipment for atrition war in DEI -- it is barely enough for blitz in stock version

normally your first decision is to increase zero production to sth like 200 and oscars 120-200
i don't have enough supply to start building up factories over 100 zeros and 80-100 oscars
and i'm forced to atrition fight in DEI

mistakes.... you are stronger but it seems that your margin of loss is even smaller than in stock version

i like concept of stronger navies and new ships but hate what i see in terms of land combat
with java supported by 2 inf div and with 1-2 div/bde units brought to SIngapore - there are many units in india to choose from - there is no way of taking Singapore in 1st half of 42 - even more
there is good chance of retaking malayas from japanese player
with lot of supply and so many units ( there are 49 units in Johore and Singapore) your forts will raise very very fast and i think as long as he is supplied he can build them faster than i can bring them down + what casualty rate should be expected when attacking fortified position without air superiority and with almost equal inf units ??????
i think it is sth Alikchi did not think long enough
and now they discuss how to save UK capitals - i wrote i will not play such game
i'm thinking for how long i will be able to play this game before I give up
if sth like this would be IRL there would be no war
it was report about weak defences in malaya and DEI which influenced Jap HQ about going for war

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RE: IS 2 Sneer vs Andy Mac - 4/18/2006 1:22:46 AM   
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Status: offline 		At least half of the troops present in malayas should be relocated in india and it should be players decision if he wants sending them to Singapore

500 AP at forts 5 needs 2.5k AP to counter and at lvl 9 4.5K is needed
2k AP at forts 5 needs 10k AP to counter and at lvl 9 18k is needed

consider this math with lvl 9 forts which will be in 2 weeks in Singapore + shock attack after river crosing ( i have never seen all troops crossing one day - so there should be 2-3 attacks done by perts of army)
looks like whole Southern AREA ARmy is not enough to attack Singapore


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RE: IS 2 Sneer vs Andy Mac - 4/18/2006 2:10:45 AM   
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Status: offline 		"IF" you get through Malaya and take Singapore, then Ragoon will be at level 9 fort and impossible to take and thus no break into Burma. Thus, India will be like the US West Coast and unreachable except for a possible raid.

It looks more like the China theater with better Allied resources and counter punch capabilities.

Any increase in Allied forces (naval, air, land) needs to be off set with about 3:1 increase by the Japanese to give them a chance. It looks like the Allies will be at Tokyo's doorstep by mid-43.

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RE: IS 2 Sneer vs Andy Mac - 4/18/2006 10:17:42 AM   
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sadly speaking i don't see any reason why to go for war in such military conditions
2-4 carriers can't offset beeing short by something like 10 divisions :-)

you are wrong war will be shorter as it will be maximum effort for taking Java & celebes - palembang will not be secured as well as java
there is not enough fighters to cover all resource places + supress Singapore and be present in Burma and pacific so allies will be free for strategic bombing immiedietaly after taking them

my usual answer is taking them is a very short time span - each with base force and designated fighter force

more resources damaged with less supply

simple OOB "on paper" comparison is not enough - for me Alikchi made very unbalanced mod in LCU /strategic deployment

there is big fun with navy and new toys but main idea is to secure land objectives


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RE: IS 2 Sneer vs Andy Mac - 4/19/2006 8:20:05 PM   
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Status: offline 		bad weather prevented US carrier from attack
i hope that Andy will fear staying too long in area
he got no news from my CVs for a time


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/23/41

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Sub attack at 27,45

Japanese Ships
AK Hawaii Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
PC Shonan Maru #17
PC Takunan Maru #5
AP Nichiryo Maru
PC Ch 16
PC Ch 13
PC Ch 14
PC Ch 15
PC Ch 32
PC Ch 18
PC Ch 17

Allied Ships
SS Uproar, hits 7, on fire

Japanese ground losses:
28 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

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Day Air attack on 5th Division, at 22,49


Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 12
Wellington III x 9
Hudson I x 13
Beaufort I x 6
P-40B Tomahawk x 3
B-17E Fortress x 9
LB-30 Liberator x 3


Allied aircraft losses
Wellington III: 2 damaged
Hudson I: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
128 casualties reported
Guns lost 6
Vehicles lost 1

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 10000 feet
3 x LB-30 Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Blenheim IV bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Beaufort I bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Blenheim IV bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Blenheim IV bombing at 10000 feet
6 x Hudson I bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Hudson I bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Blenheim IV bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 10000 feet
6 x Wellington III bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Beaufort I bombing at 10000 feet
4 x Hudson I bombing at 10000 feet
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Day Air attack on 18th Division, at 22,49

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 15

Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 12
Wellington III x 6
Hudson I x 9
Beaufort I x 5
P-40B Tomahawk x 2
B-17E Fortress x 9
LB-30 Liberator x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 5 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim IV: 8 damaged
Wellington III: 2 damaged
Hudson I: 4 damaged
Beaufort I: 2 damaged
B-17E Fortress: 6 damaged
LB-30 Liberator: 3 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
100 casualties reported
Guns lost 5

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 10000 feet
3 x LB-30 Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Blenheim IV bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Beaufort I bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Hudson I bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Hudson I bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Blenheim IV bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 10000 feet
2 x Beaufort I bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Hudson I bombing at 10000 feet
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Day Air attack on 200th US Coast AA Regiment, at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 9
Ki-32 Mary x 73

Allied aircraft
P-40E Warhawk x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-32 Mary: 4 destroyed, 38 damaged



Allied ground losses:
82 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Aircraft Attacking:
28 x Ki-32 Mary bombing at 2000 feet
10 x Ki-32 Mary bombing at 2000 feet
31 x Ki-32 Mary bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 25,45

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 14

Allied aircraft
B-17D Fortress x 3
Beaufighter IC x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Beaufighter IC: 1 destroyed

Japanese Ships
AP Taiyo Maru, Bomb hits 1

Japanese ground losses:
36 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-17D Fortress bombing at 10000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 28,51


Allied aircraft
B-17D Fortress x 3


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
DD Hato

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-17D Fortress bombing at 10000 feet

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Ground combat at Manila

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 144425 troops, 1143 guns, 320 vehicles, Beginning Assault Value = 2680

Defending force 66423 troops, 355 guns, 259 vehicles, Beginning Assault Value = 1426

Japanese max assault: 2046 - adjusted assault: 816

Allied max defense: 1497 - adjusted defense: 2937

Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 0)


Japanese ground losses:
2909 casualties reported
Guns lost 58
Vehicles lost 5

Allied ground losses:
2645 casualties reported
Guns lost 35
Vehicles lost 9



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RE: IS 2 Sneer vs Andy Mac - 4/21/2006 6:39:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		good fortune reversed in afternoon when cloud cover dispersed
2 cvl sunk with all planes trapped on them
settsu and cruised damaged


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/24/41

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Sub attack at 103,94

Japanese Ships
SS I-174

Allied Ships
AO Neosho, Torpedo hits 1, on fire

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Day Air attack on 55th Division, at 30,35


Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 3


Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 1 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 98,87


Allied aircraft
F4F-3 Wildcat x 4
SBD Dauntless x 23
TBD Devastator x 14


Allied aircraft losses
SBD Dauntless: 2 damaged
TBD Devastator: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
CVL Unho, Bomb hits 4, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
CL Aoba, Bomb hits 1, on fire
BB Settsu, Bomb hits 2
DD Nenohi, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
CVL Junho, Bomb hits 3, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
1 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
2 x TBD Devastator bombing at 5000 feet
4 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
4 x TBD Devastator bombing at 5000 feet
4 x TBD Devastator bombing at 5000 feet
4 x TBD Devastator bombing at 5000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 98,87


Allied aircraft
F4F-3 Wildcat x 8
SBD Dauntless x 30
TBD Devastator x 17


Allied aircraft losses
SBD Dauntless: 3 damaged
TBD Devastator: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
BB Settsu, Bomb hits 1, on fire
CL Kinugasa
CL Tatsuta, Bomb hits 1
CVL Junho, Bomb hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
DD Hatsushimo

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
3 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
1 x TBD Devastator bombing at 5000 feet
4 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
4 x TBD Devastator bombing at 5000 feet
4 x TBD Devastator bombing at 5000 feet
4 x TBD Devastator bombing at 5000 feet
4 x TBD Devastator bombing at 5000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 98,87


Allied aircraft
F4F-3 Wildcat x 9
SBD Dauntless x 28
TBD Devastator x 14


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
DD Kisaragi
CL Aoba, on fire
CL Yura
BB Settsu, Bomb hits 1, on fire

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
3 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
2 x TBD Devastator bombing at 5000 feet
4 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
4 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
4 x TBD Devastator bombing at 5000 feet
4 x TBD Devastator bombing at 5000 feet
4 x TBD Devastator bombing at 5000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 27,46


Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 3


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
PG Unkai Maru #1

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Blenheim IV bombing at 10000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Kota Bharu at 24,45

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 21
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 42

Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 13
Wellington III x 12
Hudson I x 10
B-17D Fortress x 2
B-17E Fortress x 19
LB-30 Liberator x 6
Beaufighter IC x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 11 damaged
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 14 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim IV: 5 damaged
Wellington III: 1 destroyed, 5 damaged
Hudson I: 2 destroyed, 3 damaged
B-17E Fortress: 19 damaged
LB-30 Liberator: 6 damaged
Beaufighter IC: 3 destroyed

Japanese Ships
AP Nichiryo Maru
AP Jinshu Maru, Bomb hits 2
AK Shinamogawa Maru
AP Taiyo Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AP Kanayamasan Maru
AP Daigen Maru
AK Tairyu Maru
AP Sakido Maru
AP Kaedesan Maru
AP Takayo Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
PC Ch 13
AK Sanko Maru
AP Otori Maru

Japanese ground losses:
86 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x LB-30 Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
4 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Blenheim IV bombing at 10000 feet
4 x Hudson I bombing at 10000 feet
2 x Hudson I bombing at 10000 feet
4 x Blenheim IV bombing at 10000 feet
2 x Wellington III bombing at 10000 feet
2 x Hudson I bombing at 10000 feet
3 x LB-30 Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 10000 feet
2 x Wellington III bombing at 10000 feet
4 x Wellington III bombing at 10000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 29,50


Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 3


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
DD Fuyo

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Blenheim IV bombing at 10000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 98,85

Japanese aircraft
F1M2 Pete x 16

Allied aircraft
F4F-3 Wildcat x 28

Japanese aircraft losses
F1M2 Pete: 11 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-3 Wildcat: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
CV Saratoga
CV Enterprise

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x F1M2 Pete bombing at 2000 feet
4 x F1M2 Pete bombing at 2000 feet
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ASW attack at 103,94

Japanese Ships
SS I-174

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Sub attack at 103,94

Japanese Ships
SS I-174

Allied Ships
AO Neosho, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage


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Ground combat at Manila

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 3952 troops, 92 guns, 0 vehicles, Beginning Assault Value = 2506

Defending force 63570 troops, 319 guns, 253 vehicles, Beginning Assault Value = 1369



Allied ground losses:
120 casualties reported
Guns lost 1



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RE: IS 2 Sneer vs Andy Mac - 4/21/2006 7:58:24 PM   
Sneer


Posts: 2654
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Status: offline 		BB malaya hunted near Palembang
enemy carriers did not try to eliminate settsu group and retreat to PH
US BB at Suva
Dutch BCs moves to ceylon
in 3-4 days i should be ready with invasion on PM but must decide what to do with KB first
i'm tempted to raid south pac - i know us bbs are there - and they are defenceless at suva

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/25/41

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TF 64 encounters mine field at Bataan (42,51)

Japanese Ships
MSW Choun Maru #18
MSW W.18
MSW Choun Maru #7
MSW Banshu Maru #52
MSW W.19
MSW W.16
MSW W.15

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ASW attack at 9,39

Japanese Ships
SS I-165, hits 3

Allied Ships
DD Dordtrect
DD Hertog Hendrik
DD Van der Heyden
DD Ijseelmer
DD Noordbrabant
DD Katham
DD Groningen

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Sub attack at 101,97

Japanese Ships
SS I-170

Allied Ships
AO Sepulga, Torpedo hits 1, on fire

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Sub attack at 21,53

Japanese Ships
SS I-154

Allied Ships
AK Mabella, Shell hits 3, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

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Day Air attack on 9th Division, at 22,49


Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 19
Wellington III x 7
Hudson I x 14
Beaufort I x 7
P-40B Tomahawk x 3
B-17D Fortress x 3
B-17E Fortress x 9
LB-30 Liberator x 3


Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim IV: 1 damaged
Hudson I: 3 damaged
B-17E Fortress: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
137 casualties reported
Guns lost 5

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 10000 feet
3 x LB-30 Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-17D Fortress bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Blenheim IV bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Beaufort I bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Blenheim IV bombing at 10000 feet
5 x Blenheim IV bombing at 10000 feet
6 x Hudson I bombing at 10000 feet
5 x Hudson I bombing at 10000 feet
8 x Blenheim IV bombing at 10000 feet
4 x Wellington III bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 10000 feet
4 x Beaufort I bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Hudson I bombing at 10000 feet
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Day Air attack on 21st Mixed Brigade, at 30,35


Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 3


Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 1 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
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Day Air attack on 5th Division, at 22,49

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 9
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 3

Allied aircraft
Blenheim IV x 14
Wellington III x 8
Hudson I x 7
Beaufort I x 9
P-40B Tomahawk x 2
B-17D Fortress x 2
B-17E Fortress x 9
LB-30 Liberator x 2

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 4 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Wellington III: 2 damaged
Hudson I: 2 damaged
Beaufort I: 1 damaged
B-17D Fortress: 1 damaged
B-17E Fortress: 3 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
50 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Beaufort I bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 10000 feet
2 x LB-30 Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 10000 feet
2 x B-17D Fortress bombing at 10000 feet
4 x Blenheim IV bombing at 10000 feet
4 x Blenheim IV bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Blenheim IV bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Hudson I bombing at 10000 feet
2 x Hudson I bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Blenheim IV bombing at 10000 feet
4 x Wellington III bombing at 10000 feet
4 x Wellington III bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Beaufort I bombing at 10000 feet
2 x Hudson I bombing at 10000 feet
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Day Air attack on 31st Reserve Division, at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 27
Ki-21-II Sally x 143
Ki-48-I Lily x 15

Allied aircraft
P-40E Warhawk x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21-II Sally: 9 damaged
Ki-48-I Lily: 2 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed


Allied ground losses:
233 casualties reported
Guns lost 5

Aircraft Attacking:
18 x Ki-21-II Sally bombing at 10000 feet
27 x Ki-21-II Sally bombing at 10000 feet
11 x Ki-21-II Sally bombing at 10000 feet
27 x Ki-21-II Sally bombing at 10000 feet
24 x Ki-21-II Sally bombing at 10000 feet
15 x Ki-48-I Lily bombing at 10000 feet
6 x Ki-21-II Sally bombing at 10000 feet
15 x Ki-21-II Sally bombing at 10000 feet
15 x Ki-21-II Sally bombing at 10000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 21,53

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 22
G3M Nell x 14

Allied aircraft
Sea Hurricane x 13

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 2 destroyed
G3M Nell: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Sea Hurricane: 7 destroyed

Allied Ships
BB Malaya, Torpedo hits 4, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 27,67

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 27
D3A2 Val x 24
B5N2 Kate x 23

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Vyner Brooke, Bomb hits 13, on fire, heavy damage
AK Tasman, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x D3A2 Val bombing at 2000 feet
3 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
9 x D3A2 Val bombing at 2000 feet
9 x D3A2 Val bombing at 2000 feet
4 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B5N2 Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Muntok at 21,55

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 3
G3M Nell x 10

Allied aircraft
Brewster 339D x 2

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M Nell: 1 damaged


Allied Ships
TK P. P. Buisman, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Muntok at 21,55

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 17
G3M Nell x 10

Allied aircraft
Brewster 339D x 2

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Allied Ships
AK Matua, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AK Utsire
AK Needwood, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Sub attack at 102,96

Japanese Ships
SS I-169

Allied Ships
AO Neosho, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage


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Ground combat at Manila

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 4064 troops, 96 guns, 0 vehicles, Beginning Assault Value = 2574

Defending force 64102 troops, 326 guns, 257 vehicles, Beginning Assault Value = 1374



Allied ground losses:
195 casualties reported
Guns lost 1



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RE: IS 2 Sneer vs Andy Mac - 4/22/2006 3:59:56 PM   
Sneer


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Status: offline 		it is weird to me - i noticed p-38F lighting over Singapore in last days of DEC
how the hell i can fight for air superioirity there
1st assault for Johore was very bloody - forts reduced to 5 - numerical advantage less than 2:1 adjusted 1:5
looks like best idea is to withdraw

sweep mission bring 1:1 losses of my zero against his combined cap
my daitais are 60% strong now as losses are too high
i can't win skies over Singapore even if 80% of my fighters is used over Malaya

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few data about air war in malayas - 4/22/2006 9:17:54 PM   
Sneer


Posts: 2654
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Status: offline 		in iron storm due to several factors air war looks diffrently than in stock version
there are plenty of allied planes inmalaya bases and close to them
as I pointed earlier there are 20 fgt sqns in singapore after few days
and most of them are good and very good planes ( hurris/ spitfires /avg tomahawks , P38F )
ap 250-300 + we all know replacements rates are quite high
there is more 4e bombers at start too
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there is no way japan can block singapore from supply within first months - i think it can be block after Java is taken
with 2k Assault value of troops there is no way to defeat malayan garrison in fight - it needs to be starved first
meanwhile allies can close any malayan airfield within range of their bombers and allied player is forced to attrition play what in stock version happens no sooner than in mid 42 when industry is built up and planes reserves are available
here is example from last combat report
with problem with dealing with bombers in this mod I already posted in thread in main forum
( durability of bombers are increased to lower bloodiness) - there is no way you can stop bombers from reaching targets - AA Changes from Nik mod are not implemented in this game
daily plane losses are 2x - 3x higher than in any stock game I played - despite NIK mod which decrease bloodiness


Day Air attack on Kuantan , at 24,48

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 26

Allied aircraft
Sea Hurricane x 24
Wirraway x 15
Brewster 339D x 6
Hurricane IIb x 36
Spitfire Vb x 29
Kittyhawk I x 9
CW-22 Falcon x 7
Blenheim IV x 58
Wellington III x 28
Hudson I x 38
Beaufort I x 23
P-40B Tomahawk x 8
P-40E Warhawk x 5
B-17D Fortress x 9
B-17E Fortress x 39
LB-30 Liberator x 10
P-38F Lightning x 5
Beaufighter IC x 24
Spitfire Type 355 x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 23 destroyed
Ki-51 Sonia: 14 destroyed
Ki-32 Mary: 9 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Sea Hurricane: 7 destroyed, 9 damaged
Wirraway: 10 destroyed
Brewster 339D: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged
Hurricane IIb: 9 destroyed, 12 damaged
Spitfire Vb: 7 destroyed, 11 damaged
Kittyhawk I: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged
Blenheim IV: 1 damaged
Wellington III: 2 damaged
Hudson I: 1 damaged
Beaufort I: 1 damaged
P-40B Tomahawk: 3 destroyed, 2 damaged
P-40E Warhawk: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged
P-38F Lightning: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged
Beaufighter IC: 2 destroyed

Japanese ground losses:
796 casualties reported
Guns lost 8

Airbase hits 33
Airbase supply hits 8
Runway hits 116

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 15000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 10000 feet
4 x LB-30 Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-17D Fortress bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Blenheim IV bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Beaufort I bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Blenheim IV bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Blenheim IV bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Blenheim IV bombing at 15000 feet
3 x Hudson I bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Hudson I bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Blenheim IV bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 10000 feet
4 x Wellington III bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Beaufort I bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Hudson I bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 10000 feet
3 x LB-30 Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-17D Fortress bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Blenheim IV bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Beaufort I bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Blenheim IV bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Blenheim IV bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Blenheim IV bombing at 15000 feet
3 x Hudson I bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Hudson I bombing at 10000 feet
4 x Wellington III bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Beaufort I bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Hudson I bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 10000 feet
3 x LB-30 Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-17D Fortress bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Blenheim IV bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Blenheim IV bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Blenheim IV bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Blenheim IV bombing at 15000 feet
3 x Hudson I bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Hudson I bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Blenheim IV bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Beaufort I bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Hudson I bombing at 10000 feet
2 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 10000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 10000 feet
2 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 10000 feet
2 x Beaufort I bombing at 10000 feet
2 x Blenheim IV bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Blenheim IV bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Blenheim IV bombing at 15000 feet
3 x Hudson I bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Hudson I bombing at 10000 feet
2 x Blenheim IV bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Beaufort I bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Blenheim IV bombing at 10000 feet
2 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Blenheim IV bombing at 15000 feet
3 x Hudson I bombing at 10000 feet
2 x Hudson I bombing at 10000 feet
2 x Wellington III bombing at 10000 feet
3 x Beaufort I bombing at 10000 feet

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RE: few data about air war in malayas - 4/22/2006 9:19:23 PM   
Sneer


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Status: offline 		last turn - there were many similar




in my second current PBEm it almost 4 months of combat until my losses reached similar level and meanwhile i had malaya /PI /java / east india campaigns finished
in this mod i lost same number in 3 weeks


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RE: few data about air war in malayas - 4/22/2006 9:22:19 PM   
Sneer


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Status: offline 		shape of zero fighters
there are no planes in the pool
factories are during building up
I can't fight air war for which allies are ready and for which they force me




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RE: few data about air war in malayas - 4/22/2006 9:23:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		oscars are in slightly better shape but their pool is almost empty
and oscars can't shoot 4e bombers which started harassing me in great numbers




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i see no point in further play - 4/22/2006 9:36:02 PM   
Sneer


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Status: offline 		Sorry Alikchi but i find this scenario too highly unbalanced to play as Japan
it is over for me -too many toys to allies too fast but what makes this mission impossible is deployment of these toys -

my prediction is that :
Manila will fall within next two weeks
PM will be taken within next two weeks
for burma 3-6 months will be needed and there is no way to cover it from air
Singapore will not fall sooner than 3-4 months after cutting off - if allied player is smart and reinforce Java with troops from india than Java will not fall sooner than in next 3-4 months
estimated fall of fortress - june- september 42
meanwhile Japanese fighter force will disappear - monthly losses that allies can survive costs japan more than monthly production

can Malayas be ignored in the opening ?- they can - but you need to be prepared that you will loose resources and HI from Bangkog and Saigon within first half of 42
also you will be unable to take palembang before Singapore is taken as well as resource island close to it - otherwise industries will be in ruins
Japan don't have enough supply to survive such events

I can withstand beating - in myPBEM against Raverdave see him taking initiative but also know that if there is no space for Japan at the beginning war will be very short
Japan will be in full retreat within next 12 months and war in my estimation will end in the end of 43

i want to thank all Witp -maniacs that support Alikchi and us players in this game


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RE: i see no point in further play - 4/23/2006 11:54:58 AM   
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Status: offline 		YOu amke some good points Sneer, but I don't think it will be so hard to isolate Singapore, and if it can be isolated, is there really a need to capture before Burma offense starts? For that matter, who says Burma must be taken?

You may well be correct, but Japanese carrier power seems very strong, and naval production has built in surplus right off the bat (I have finished the warship production tables - BTW) so a couple carriers can be accelerated and moved up a year or two. So I see Japan have major control over the water for quite some time.

That being said, I'm only into day 3 of my Iron Storm game so I'm not truly qualified to rebut your claims yet!

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RE: i see no point in further play - 4/23/2006 12:53:35 PM   
Sneer


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Status: offline 		it is a matter of how fast you can take java - taking java before taking malayas or PI leaves you with too little troops available
you need to go there with troops from PI - i think that clearing luzon and minadanoa in 4 weeks is result i shouldn't be ashamed in the community - these are only troops available to you.
it means that they land java in late January or early Feb - in stock version - basing on easier map it takes at least month to clear java - here allies can double defenders forces easily - 2 months? maybe even 3 or 4 with really sgood defence
so we have april - since april Singapore is cut off but it has 100k-150k suppiles inside and extremaly strong cap - i actually lost fighter war in malaya in first 3 weeks of war - japan can't sustain such losses - allies can - i don't see eggageration in my calculations

Burma - Japan needs every bit of buffer zone for later stage of war
if you leave burma to allies you should forget about Hanoi , Bangkok and Saigan as HI and resource centers - they will be in ruins and you will be short on fighters by this time

killing Japan resources is a key to winning WITP - i managed to take under my boots china easily within 42 in my second PBEM only because i concentrated on resources
if you loose industrial potential of indochina you are toasted sooner than you think

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RE: i see no point in further play - 4/23/2006 8:51:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'm still a relative new comer so you are probably right. Once Alikchi and I pick up the pace we will find out in a few months.

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