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RE: Lunacy AND Shrewdness - 6/20/2006 1:12:16 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Redd

    So whadda ya think Dave, should he turtle up in southern Oz or defend forward ?


The recent change that made all of the northern Australia bases malaria-free makes it much harder to defend up there, because now the Japanese player can grab any base and build it up without fighting malaria. Previously, only Darwin was malaria-free so an Allied player could afford to make a stand at Darwin and let a Japanese player try his luck in the other bases. It was still risky, but malarial bases are tough to expand.

Now, the Allied player has to face the possibility of multi-divisional invasions at any of four bases that aren't quite close enough together to be mutually supporting. And these four bases are very close to a half dozen DEI bases that the Japanese player can build up. As well, there are no inland bases that are safe from naval bombardment in northern Oz.

Therefore, in a game like this where things are going badly for the Allies, it is a lot better to be building up southeastern Oz and defending the Aussie reinforcement locations. That doesn't mean to leave the four northern bases empty, but it does mean to be prepared to withdraw quickly in the face of superior force.

Dave Baranyi

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RE: Lunacy AND Shrewdness - 6/20/2006 1:17:20 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Nomad

I really don't understand why the developers didn't consider this. They considered that the Japanese player might try invading the USA and made a rule for it. Why not a rule that if any base in India is taken by the Japanese then some reinforcements are moved up some. There were forces avaliable to the British, but they did not need to move them to India since it was not under attack. And while we are at it, why didn't they have the reinforcements scheduled for Karachi arrive in Australia after a 30 or 60 day delay?


That's a very legitimate question to ask Don and Gang. Hopefully they are looking at this AAR.

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RE: Lunacy AND Shrewdness - 6/20/2006 2:04:37 PM   
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Trust me karachi is as safe as houses I assume you have a big chunk of your lande forces in the hex prepping for Karachi with massive supply stockpiles.

He can hurt you with bombardments he may even reduce the forts but the Urban bonus is impregnable. Pull out the AF its just free points at this stage wait until you have a massive stockpile of Hurris and Spits before trying to rebuild your AF

5th Indian Div is not far away as is 25th Indian Div.

Every reinforcement you recieve he needs to match 8 X to take the hex as you will always be in supply.

I think he has missed any chance of taking karachi



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RE: Lunacy AND Shrewdness - 6/20/2006 2:06:46 PM   
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RE: Lunacy AND Shrewdness - 6/20/2006 9:27:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		How many engineers, engineer vehicles, and motorized support do you have in Karachi?? These effect how fast you repair damages and re-build forts.

I am starting to feel that taking Karachi may not be possible or take so long that it upsets his other timetables. Nemo will propably gain air superiority, but he still has to knock down all those forts and then over come all those bonuses and get 2:1 odds for him to capture it. Right??


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RE: Lunacy AND Shrewdness - 6/20/2006 9:33:55 PM   
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Status: offline 		well he gets to use the battleline so that can help, I mean creating Two Bombard Tfs with roughly 3 BBs and 3 CAs each... Rotating them to blast the hell out of the place... then bombarding with planes as well.. I guess he'll need all the troops he can muster... I actually have no Idea...

But taking India leaving Karachi brings nothing to Japan, so i guess he'll do all he can to take, even if it means no going for the subsequent targets...

How long does it take for the CEA to get to Karachi once China is cleared ? Would it be possible that he just leaves a blocking force and keeps the AF closed waiting for the whole CEA to come by while he does something else with the SEA ?

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RE: Lunacy AND Shrewdness - 6/21/2006 12:48:41 AM   
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well he gets to use the battleline so that can help, I mean creating Two Bombard Tfs with roughly 3 BBs and 3 CAs each... Rotating them to blast the hell out of the place... then bombarding with planes as well.. I guess he'll need all the troops he can muster... I actually have no Idea...



There is a way to defuse the effect of the Japanese battleline, if you still have transports in Karachi. When he comes to attack, whether with the battleline, the KB or both, form your transports into single ship "Transport" TFs and set them to stay in the hex (Destination and Home Base both Karachi, as well as "patrol" setting.) The planes and surface ships will waste their ammunition on each individual single ship TF. Then "pop up" your own surface combat ships to fight the next turn against ammo depleted opponents.

It's a desperate move, but think of it as being equivalent to the use of "fire ships" to try to break up a superior force.

Good luck -

Dave Baranyi

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RE: Lunacy AND Shrewdness - 6/21/2006 5:55:59 AM   
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There is a way to defuse the effect of the Japanese battleline, if you still have transports in Karachi. When he comes to attack, whether with the battleline, the KB or both, form your transports into single ship "Transport" TFs and set them to stay in the hex (Destination and Home Base both Karachi, as well as "patrol" setting.) The planes and surface ships will waste their ammunition on each individual single ship TF. Then "pop up" your own surface combat ships to fight the next turn against ammo depleted opponents.

It's a desperate move, but think of it as being equivalent to the use of "fire ships" to try to break up a superior force.


Clever thinking -- and this is an "Anarchy Rules" game!

Incidentally, I would agree with the posters about the developers not forseeing a Japanese charge into India -- except that they MUST have known. This problem popped up many times and was discussed at length in the Pacific War forum. Perhaps they thought that the monsoon rules would take care of the problem?

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RE: Lunacy AND Shrewdness - 6/21/2006 6:38:26 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Capt. Harlock

quote:

There is a way to defuse the effect of the Japanese battleline, if you still have transports in Karachi. When he comes to attack, whether with the battleline, the KB or both, form your transports into single ship "Transport" TFs and set them to stay in the hex (Destination and Home Base both Karachi, as well as "patrol" setting.) The planes and surface ships will waste their ammunition on each individual single ship TF. Then "pop up" your own surface combat ships to fight the next turn against ammo depleted opponents.

It's a desperate move, but think of it as being equivalent to the use of "fire ships" to try to break up a superior force.


Clever thinking -- and this is an "Anarchy Rules" game!

Incidentally, I would agree with the posters about the developers not forseeing a Japanese charge into India -- except that they MUST have known. This problem popped up many times and was discussed at length in the Pacific War forum. Perhaps they thought that the monsoon rules would take care of the problem?


Hah! The "monsoon rules" just improve the situation for the Japanese player because the continuous bad weather in all Indian bases under "advanced weather" negates the ability of the Allied bombers to attack advancing Japanese forces.

BTW - I realized the advantage of the "fire ship" approach in my game against Yank. When I was trying to escape from the Philippines against Treespider I kept my ships together in normal TFs and had them all sunk. When I sent them out individually against Yank his forces ran out of ammo after the first half dozen or so attacks and he had to send them back to port for supplies, which allowed the rest of my ships to escape.

Anyway, when you think of it, it was much more usual for ships to sail in single-ship TFs at the beginning of the war than in big multi-ship TFs. We've just gotten used to using big TFs because of the convenience in the Game.

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RE: Lunacy AND Shrewdness - 6/21/2006 6:50:14 AM   
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I am afraid that Karachi is doomed. The RAF has been shattered, the airbase is closed and I have begun pulling the 4Es with the range out of Karachi into the Soviet Union


BTW - have you been "withdrawing" your short-range planes? You want to disband as many air units as possible because they come back in 90 days, as compared to 6 months if they are destroyed on the ground in the final assault. But be certain to re-assign them to some other HQ than SEAC first - SWPAC for example - so they don't get stuck in "limbo" instead of coming back somewhere like Oz.

Good luck -

Dave Baranyi

(Been there, done that... )

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RE: Lunacy AND Shrewdness - 6/21/2006 11:02:20 AM   
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Status: offline 		Karachi is doomed only if forts are going down fast
there will be enough time for this I think
even best fortress busters will need few weaks to finish such place
attack - 3-4 days reast and attack again  and after 2-3 attacks full week is always needed  - it is optimistic for attacker - there always may go bad dices and troops will need i.e. 2 weeks rest
the only problem i see is that eng units need to repair facilities before thay raise forts - it is place i would like to decide myself in game

advice - for all bases under heavy bomber attacks
put all units on no replacement - never  and never have more than 4-5 planes repaired in sqn
so if you have more you do not reinforce if all are in good shape  draw next 4-5 - it helps avoiding unnecessary losses on the ground
never enter loop with sqns loosing many planes on the ground
i assume you will be closed for a while
wait till your runway <50% dmg than you can start reinforcing
till that moment - forget about air units

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RE: Lunacy AND Shrewdness - 6/24/2006 3:38:18 AM   
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Status: offline 		Here's an update.  Not much happening.  Although I am surprised at the lack of hammering Nemo is doing to Karachi.

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 05/25/42
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TF 1035 encounters mine field at Dutch Harbor (103,36)

Allied Ships
MSW Courtenay

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TF 1064 encounters mine field at Dutch Harbor (103,36)

Allied Ships
MSW Quatsino

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TF 1035 encounters mine field at Dutch Harbor (103,36)

Allied Ships
AK Empire Summer, and is sunk
MSW Courtenay

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TF 1064 encounters mine field at Dutch Harbor (103,36)

Allied Ships
MSW Quatsino

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Day Air attack on 10th Group Army, at 39,34

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 34

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
14 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
31 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet
3 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Colombo , at 14,24

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 18
G3M Nell x 54
Ki-21 Sally x 35
Ki-49 Helen x 26

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M Nell: 3 damaged
Ki-21 Sally: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Wirraway: 2 destroyed

Airbase hits 14
Airbase supply hits 13
Runway hits 72

Aircraft Attacking:
26 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
6 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 6000 feet
15 x G3M Nell bombing at 6000 feet
20 x G3M Nell bombing at 6000 feet
6 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 6000 feet
2 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 6000 feet
6 x G3M Nell bombing at 6000 feet
5 x G3M Nell bombing at 6000 feet
2 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 6000 feet
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 6000 feet
2 x G3M Nell bombing at 6000 feet
3 x G3M Nell bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
2 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on Koepang , at 28,77


Allied aircraft
Brewster 339D x 18
Hudson I x 45


Allied aircraft losses
Hudson I: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
77 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Port hits 1
Port supply hits 3

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Hudson I bombing at 5000 feet
3 x Hudson I bombing at 5000 feet
3 x Hudson I bombing at 5000 feet
3 x Hudson I bombing at 5000 feet
3 x Hudson I bombing at 5000 feet
3 x Hudson I bombing at 5000 feet
3 x Hudson I bombing at 5000 feet
3 x Hudson I bombing at 5000 feet
3 x Hudson I bombing at 5000 feet
3 x Hudson I bombing at 5000 feet
3 x Hudson I bombing at 5000 feet
3 x Hudson I bombing at 5000 feet
3 x Hudson I bombing at 5000 feet
3 x Hudson I bombing at 5000 feet
2 x Hudson I bombing at 5000 feet
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Day Air attack on Koepang , at 28,77


Allied aircraft
Catalina I x 4
Hudson I x 16


Allied aircraft losses
Catalina I: 1 damaged
Hudson I: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
36 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Port hits 1
Port supply hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Hudson I bombing at 5000 feet
3 x Hudson I bombing at 5000 feet
3 x Hudson I bombing at 5000 feet
3 x Hudson I bombing at 5000 feet
3 x Hudson I bombing at 5000 feet
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Day Air attack on French Frigate Shoal , at 104,68


Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 12


No Allied losses

Runway hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 17000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 17000 feet
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Day Air attack on Chungking , at 43,32

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 22
Ki-46-II Dinah x 1
Ki-15 Babs x 2

Allied aircraft
I-16c x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-15 Babs: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
I-16c: 1 damaged

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Day Air attack on Karachi , at 21,3

Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 15

Allied aircraft
Lysander I x 1
Mohawk IV x 3
Buffalo I x 5
Hurricane II x 3
Kittyhawk I x 9
P-40E Warhawk x 1

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3 Zero: 5 destroyed, 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Mohawk IV: 1 destroyed
Buffalo I: 3 destroyed
Hurricane II: 1 destroyed
Kittyhawk I: 3 destroyed, 2 damaged
P-40E Warhawk: 1 damaged

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Day Air attack on TF at 21,4

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 18

Allied aircraft
Mohawk IV x 2
Vildebeest IV x 2
Blenheim I x 9
Blenheim IV x 17
Wellington III x 10
Martin 139 x 2
Beaufort V-IX x 14
B-26B Marauder x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Vildebeest IV: 2 destroyed
Blenheim I: 4 damaged
Blenheim IV: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged
Wellington III: 2 damaged
Martin 139: 1 destroyed
Beaufort V-IX: 3 destroyed, 8 damaged
B-26B Marauder: 3 damaged

Japanese Ships
BB Yamashiro, Bomb hits 1
BB Nagato
BB Hyuga, Bomb hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x Martin 139 bombing at 7000 feet
3 x Blenheim IV bombing at 7000 feet
3 x Blenheim I bombing at 7000 feet
1 x Beaufort V-IX launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x Blenheim I bombing at 7000 feet
2 x Wellington III bombing at 7000 feet
2 x Wellington III bombing at 7000 feet
2 x Blenheim IV bombing at 7000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 7000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 7000 feet
2 x B-26B Marauder bombing at 7000 feet
3 x Blenheim IV bombing at 7000 feet
3 x Blenheim IV bombing at 7000 feet
3 x Blenheim I bombing at 7000 feet
2 x Beaufort V-IX launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x B-26B Marauder bombing at 7000 feet
4 x Beaufort V-IX launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x Beaufort V-IX launching torpedoes at 200 feet
This is frustrating.  If I could just get one or two torpedo hits, I'd put a real dent in his ability to shell karachi into oblivion.  As it is, the bomb its are generally useless.  A bit surprised that he would let the battleline take the risk though.
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Ground combat at Chungking

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 3150 troops, 106 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 6633

Defending force 172228 troops, 1192 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3811



Allied ground losses:
29 casualties reported


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Ground combat at 42,30

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 17321 troops, 180 guns, 5 vehicles, Assault Value = 246

Defending force 8749 troops, 9 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 54

Japanese max assault: 241 - adjusted assault: 234

Allied max defense: 53 - adjusted defense: 47

Japanese assault odds: 4 to 1


Japanese ground losses:
33 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 1

Allied ground losses:
6 casualties reported


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Ground combat at 40,36

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 10284 troops, 161 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 200

Defending force 3156 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 77

Japanese max assault: 197 - adjusted assault: 192

Allied max defense: 73 - adjusted defense: 7

Japanese assault odds: 27 to 1


Japanese ground losses:
26 casualties reported

Allied ground losses:
92 casualties reported


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RE: Lunacy AND Shrewdness - 6/24/2006 4:49:48 AM   
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Status: offline 		I have a question about DMSs accompanying a bombardment task force.  Will they work to clear the mines while the bombardment task force bombards or do they need to be in separate task forces?

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RE: Lunacy AND Shrewdness - 6/24/2006 5:52:59 AM   
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I'm not sure from personnal experience, but in most AARs that I've read they have been embedded in the TFs themselves. Seemed to work well.

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RE: Lunacy AND Shrewdness - 6/24/2006 10:04:30 AM   
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RE: Lunacy AND Shrewdness - 6/24/2006 4:59:36 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'm not sure if the DMS sweep the mines, but they do prevent your CA/BB from using their hulls as minesweepers. 

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RE: Lunacy AND Shrewdness - 6/25/2006 5:02:37 PM   
itsjustme

 

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TF 1049 encounters mine field at Adak Island (98,36)

TF 1049 troops unloading over beach at Adak Island, 98,36



Allied ground losses:
158 casualties reported


Just trying to keep him honest and give him something to think about.
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TF 1064 encounters mine field at Dutch Harbor (103,36)

Allied Ships
MSW Quatsino

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Karachi at 21,3

Japanese Ships
BB Yamashiro
BB Hyuga
CA Nachi
CA Mogami
CA Mikuma
CA Kumano
CA Aoba
CA Kinugasa
CA Furutaka
DD Hatsukaze
DD Natsushio

Allied Ships
AK Empire Pennant, Shell hits 14, and is sunk

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Karachi at 21,3

Japanese Ships
BB Yamashiro, Shell hits 2
BB Hyuga, Shell hits 1
CA Nachi
CA Mogami
CA Mikuma
CA Kumano
CA Aoba, Shell hits 1
CA Kinugasa
CA Furutaka
DD Hatsukaze
DD Natsushio

Allied Ships
DD Tjerk Hiddes, Shell hits 43, and is sunk
DD Tenedos, Shell hits 51, and is sunk

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Karachi at 21,3

Japanese Ships
BB Yamashiro
BB Hyuga
CA Nachi
CA Mogami
CA Mikuma
CA Kumano
CA Aoba
CA Kinugasa
CA Furutaka
DD Hatsukaze
DD Natsushio

Allied Ships
PT PT-36
PT PT-37

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Karachi at 21,3

Japanese Ships
BB Yamashiro
BB Hyuga, Shell hits 4
CA Nachi
CA Mogami, Shell hits 2
CA Mikuma
CA Kumano
CA Aoba
CA Kinugasa
CA Furutaka
DD Hatsukaze
DD Natsushio

Allied Ships
DD Arrow, Shell hits 59, and is sunk
DD Norman, Shell hits 33, and is sunk

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Naval bombardment of Colombo, at 14,24 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!


Allied aircraft
no flights


Allied aircraft losses
SB-2c: 1 destroyed
Wirraway: 1 destroyed

80 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
DD Hamakaze
DD Isokaze, Shell hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
DD Kagero, Shell hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
DD Akigumo
CL Abukuma, Shell hits 5, on fire, heavy damage
CA Ashigara, Shell hits 4
CA Myoko, Shell hits 3
CA Chokai, Shell hits 8
CA Takao, Shell hits 4, on fire
CA Chikuma
CA Tone, Shell hits 1
BB Fuso
BB Kirishima
BB Hiei
BB Haruna
BB Kongo


Allied ground losses:
2344 casualties reported
Guns lost 54
Vehicles lost 1

Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 24
Port hits 15
Port fuel hits 5
Port supply hits 2
This was a nice surprise. I don't think I did any real damages to his heavies, but I do think I dinged up some escorts pretty well.
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Naval bombardment of Karachi, at 21,3


Allied aircraft
no flights


Allied aircraft losses
Swordfish: 1 destroyed
PBY Catalina: 3 destroyed
Wellington III: 1 destroyed
Dakota I: 3 destroyed
Beaufort V-IX: 1 destroyed
Catalina I: 1 destroyed
Mohawk IV: 1 destroyed
Blenheim IV: 1 destroyed

Japanese Ships
CA Furutaka
CA Kinugasa
CA Aoba
CA Kumano
CA Mikuma
CA Mogami
CA Nachi
BB Hyuga
BB Yamashiro

Allied Ships
BB Warspite, Shell hits 18, on fire, heavy damage


Allied ground losses:
3788 casualties reported
Guns lost 36
Vehicles lost 1

Airbase hits 7
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 28
Port hits 11
Port fuel hits 1
And here my support guys get nuked again.
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Naval bombardment of Colombo, at 14,24


Allied aircraft
no flights


Allied aircraft losses
SB-2c: 2 destroyed

Japanese Ships
DD Makigumo
BB Yamato


Allied ground losses:
558 casualties reported
Guns lost 16

Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 16
Port hits 2
Port fuel hits 1
Port supply hits 1

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Naval bombardment of Amchitka Island, at 96,36 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

112 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Allied Ships
CA Chicago
CA Louisville
CA Northampton, Shell hits 21
CA Indianapolis, Shell hits 30
CA Portland
BB Mississippi
BB New Mexico
BB Idaho
BB Colorado

Japanese ground losses:
376 casualties reported
Guns lost 13
While this looks really bad for the Northampton and Indianapolis, there was really no damage to them at all. I'll send this force back to Amchitka for a curtain call.
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TF 1049 encounters mine field at Adak Island (98,36)

TF 1049 troops unloading over beach at Adak Island, 98,36



Allied ground losses:
198 casualties reported

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Sub attack at 21,4

Japanese Ships
BB Yamashiro, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
DD Natsushio
DD Hatsukaze
CA Mikuma

Allied Ships
SS O19
Finally! This makes two BBs that will be in drydock for a while. I am hopeful that I can continue to nibble away at the battleline. If I could disable another 3 or 4, his chances of taking Karachi are much reduced. Wishful thinking perhaps, but there are more subs on their way to Karachi and he's going to have to run the risk if he wants to bombard.
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Day Air attack on 10th Group Army, at 39,34

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 38

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
26 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
35 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet
3 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on French Frigate Shoal , at 104,68


Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 12


No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 17000 feet
3 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 17000 feet
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Day Air attack on 1st Tank Regiment, at 36,25


Allied aircraft
SB-2c x 13


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
7 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 1

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x SB-2c bombing at 5000 feet
3 x SB-2c bombing at 5000 feet
3 x SB-2c bombing at 5000 feet
3 x SB-2c bombing at 5000 feet
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Day Air attack on 120th USN Base Force, at 42,58

Japanese aircraft
A5M4 Claude x 67
D3A Val x 92
B5N Kate x 161
Ki-27 Nate x 100
Ki-51 Sonia x 16
Ki-15 Babs x 2

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet
18 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet
9 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet
6 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet
18 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet
6 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet
6 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
6 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
4 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
20 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet
18 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet
4 x A5M4 Claude bombing at 2000 feet
15 x A5M4 Claude bombing at 2000 feet
15 x A5M4 Claude bombing at 2000 feet
4 x A5M4 Claude bombing at 2000 feet
15 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet
15 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet
4 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
15 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
4 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet
14 x A5M4 Claude bombing at 2000 feet
15 x A5M4 Claude bombing at 2000 feet
11 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
11 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet
11 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
12 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet
9 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
9 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet
11 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
11 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet
9 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
11 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet
11 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet
9 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
8 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet
9 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
3 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet
12 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet
4 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet
3 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet
9 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet
9 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet
11 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet
3 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet
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Day Air attack on 71st Chinese Division, at 39,35

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 25

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
13 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
25 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 21st Chinese Corps, at 43,32

Japanese aircraft
Ki-48 Lily x 62
Ki-46-II Dinah x 1
Ki-15 Babs x 2

Allied aircraft
I-16c x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-48 Lily: 2 destroyed, 3 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
I-16c: 1 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet
10 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet
7 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet
9 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet
15 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet
10 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on 81st PA Division, at 42,58

Japanese aircraft
A5M4 Claude x 26
D3A Val x 47
B5N Kate x 71
Ki-27 Nate x 43
Ki-51 Sonia x 9
Ki-15 Babs x 2

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
71 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet
3 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet
3 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet
3 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet
9 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet
3 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet
3 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
3 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
3 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
7 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet
6 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet
3 x A5M4 Claude bombing at 2000 feet
5 x A5M4 Claude bombing at 2000 feet
5 x A5M4 Claude bombing at 2000 feet
3 x A5M4 Claude bombing at 2000 feet
5 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet
6 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet
3 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
6 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
3 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
3 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet
5 x A5M4 Claude bombing at 2000 feet
5 x A5M4 Claude bombing at 2000 feet
6 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
4 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet
6 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
6 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet
6 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
3 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet
6 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
4 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet
4 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
5 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet
4 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet
3 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
4 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet
4 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
3 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet
4 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet
3 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet
4 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet
5 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet
6 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet
2 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 19,9

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 7

Allied aircraft
Blenheim I x 5
Blenheim IV x 3
Wellington III x 2
B-26B Marauder x 5

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim I: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
Blenheim IV: 1 destroyed
B-26B Marauder: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
APD APD-38
APD APD-35, Bomb hits 1, on fire
APD APD-36
APD APD-2
APD APD-46

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Blenheim I bombing at 7000 feet
2 x Wellington III bombing at 7000 feet
1 x Blenheim IV bombing at 7000 feet
1 x Blenheim IV bombing at 7000 feet
3 x B-26B Marauder bombing at 7000 feet
1 x Blenheim I bombing at 7000 feet
1 x B-26B Marauder bombing at 7000 feet

Nibbling away at his ASW forces too. Hopefully the combination will permit more sub attacks and consequently more damage to his heavies
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Day Air attack on TF at 19,7

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 8
A6M3 Zero x 7

Allied aircraft
Blenheim I x 2
Beaufort V-IX x 8

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 damaged
A6M3 Zero: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Blenheim I: 1 destroyed
Beaufort V-IX: 1 destroyed, 5 damaged

Japanese Ships
BB Yamashiro, on fire

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x Blenheim I bombing at 7000 feet
3 x Beaufort V-IX launching torpedoes at 200 feet
3 x Beaufort V-IX launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 19,9

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 6

Allied aircraft
B-26B Marauder x 2

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-26B Marauder: 1 damaged

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ASW attack near Adak Island at 98,36

Japanese Ships
SS I-124, hits 10

Allied Ships
MSW Guysborough
MSW Caraquet
PG Moncton
PG Vancouver


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Ground combat at Chungking

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 320022 troops, 3581 guns, 27 vehicles, Assault Value = 6248

Defending force 176387 troops, 1238 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3845



Allied ground losses:
322 casualties reported
Guns lost 1


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Ground combat at 42,30

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 17436 troops, 185 guns, 4 vehicles, Assault Value = 248

Defending force 8827 troops, 11 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 54

Japanese max assault: 250 - adjusted assault: 236

Allied max defense: 54 - adjusted defense: 51

Japanese assault odds: 4 to 1


Japanese ground losses:
50 casualties reported
Guns lost 4

Allied ground losses:
10 casualties reported


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Ground combat at Chengtu

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 8186 troops, 8 guns, 515 vehicles, Assault Value = 261

Defending force 16592 troops, 58 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 265

Japanese max assault: 448 - adjusted assault: 85

Allied max defense: 257 - adjusted defense: 101

Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 3)


Japanese ground losses:
163 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Vehicles lost 12

Allied ground losses:
369 casualties reported
Guns lost 10


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Ground combat at Chandpur

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 19933 troops, 123 guns, 1 vehicles, Assault Value = 386

Defending force 10519 troops, 129 guns, 2 vehicles, Assault Value = 132

Japanese max assault: 316 - adjusted assault: 196

Allied max defense: 97 - adjusted defense: 43

Japanese assault odds: 4 to 1 (fort level 1)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Chandpur base !!!


Japanese ground losses:
227 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
Vehicles lost 1

Allied ground losses:
11041 casualties reported
Guns lost 71

Nothing surprisng here. These guys were trapped in the original invasion.

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RE: Lunacy AND Shrewdness - 6/25/2006 11:59:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		I think you made a major mistake in sending the RN to try conclusions with Nemo at Bombay, instead of waiting for him just off Karaichi. and if he takes his time getting there, you could always have tried a few more bombardments of his ground troops.

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RE: Lunacy AND Shrewdness - 6/26/2006 12:06:34 AM   
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Status: offline 		generally, I would completely agree with you.  however, as you will note, I had completely lost air superiority and leaving those surface forces in Karachi simply meant that they would go to the bottom without getting any licks in.  Instead, I was able to take some of the IJN with me.  If I had maintained control of the air, I would not have gone on that suicide run.

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RE: Lunacy AND Shrewdness - 6/26/2006 12:53:24 AM   
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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 05/31/42
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Naval bombardment of Adak Island, at 98,36

Allied Ships
CA Chicago
CA Louisville
CA Northampton
CA Indianapolis
CA Portland
BB Mississippi
BB New Mexico
BB Idaho
BB Colorado

Japanese ground losses:
499 casualties reported

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 12
Port hits 2
Port supply hits 11
A bit of damage to the aleutians.  I am attacking the next turn and expect to push these guys off the island and establish a bit of a forward base for bombardment runs into Amchitka.
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Day Air attack on 10th Group Army, at 39,34

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 46

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
20 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
35 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet
7 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet
4 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Karachi , at 21,3

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 102
A6M3 Zero x 13
Ki-21 Sally x 194
Ki-49 Helen x 7
Ki-46-II Dinah x 7

Allied aircraft
Mohawk IV x 6
Hurricane II x 1

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 7 destroyed, 32 damaged
Ki-49 Helen: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Mohawk IV: 4 destroyed
Hurricane II: 1 destroyed
Dakota I: 4 destroyed
B-25C Mitchell: 20 destroyed
Blenheim I: 2 destroyed
Beaufort V-IX: 8 destroyed
Blenheim IV: 3 destroyed
PBY Catalina: 2 destroyed
Buffalo I: 1 destroyed
Vildebeest IV: 1 destroyed


Allied ground losses:
115 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 11
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 138

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
5 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
6 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
9 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
9 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
13 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
8 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 6000 feet
7 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
8 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
5 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
6 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
9 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
2 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
2 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
2 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
2 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
2 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
2 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet

Disaster.  Somehow the b-25b's upgraded to c's and the ones on the ground got slaughtered.  This brings up an interesting question however.  I tranferred all my 4es to Irktusk to rest and rebuild.  They are now fully rebuild and morale in the high 90s.  I was considering flying them back into Karachi and setting them immediately to airfield attack.  Thoughts on this?  I'd love to put a pasting on Nemo's airfields when he least expects it.
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Day Air attack on Trimcomalee , at 15,25

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 9

Allied aircraft
SB-2c x 3

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
SB-2c: 1 destroyed

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Day Air attack on French Frigate Shoal , at 104,68


Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 10


No Allied losses

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 4

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 17000 feet
4 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 17000 feet
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Day Air attack on 120th USN Base Force, at 42,58

Japanese aircraft
A5M4 Claude x 59
D3A Val x 106
B5N Kate x 152
Ki-27 Nate x 108
Ki-51 Sonia x 14
Ki-15 Babs x 2

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet
18 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet
13 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet
6 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet
20 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet
5 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet
5 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
5 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
4 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
20 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet
20 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet
4 x A5M4 Claude bombing at 2000 feet
13 x A5M4 Claude bombing at 2000 feet
13 x A5M4 Claude bombing at 2000 feet
4 x A5M4 Claude bombing at 2000 feet
13 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet
13 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet
4 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
15 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
4 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet
12 x A5M4 Claude bombing at 2000 feet
13 x A5M4 Claude bombing at 2000 feet
13 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
11 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet
13 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
11 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet
9 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
9 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet
11 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
9 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet
10 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
11 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet
11 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
9 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet
8 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
9 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet
8 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
3 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet
10 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet
4 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet
3 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet
8 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet
9 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet
13 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet
3 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet
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Day Air attack on 71st Chinese Division, at 39,35

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 24
Ki-48 Lily x 81

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
74 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet
11 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet
21 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet
5 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet
9 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet
15 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet
6 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet
6 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet
5 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet
3 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet
9 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on 81st PA Division, at 42,58

Japanese aircraft
A5M4 Claude x 32
D3A Val x 53
B5N Kate x 79
Ki-27 Nate x 50
Ki-51 Sonia x 9
Ki-15 Babs x 2

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
6 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet
3 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet
6 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet
3 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet
9 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet
3 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet
3 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
3 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
3 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
9 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet
8 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet
3 x A5M4 Claude bombing at 2000 feet
6 x A5M4 Claude bombing at 2000 feet
6 x A5M4 Claude bombing at 2000 feet
3 x A5M4 Claude bombing at 2000 feet
7 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet
6 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet
3 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
6 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
3 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
3 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet
7 x A5M4 Claude bombing at 2000 feet
7 x A5M4 Claude bombing at 2000 feet
6 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
4 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet
6 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
5 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet
5 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
4 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet
6 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
6 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet
4 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
5 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet
6 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
6 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet
4 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
4 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet
4 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
3 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet
6 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet
3 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet
4 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet
5 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet
6 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet
2 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet
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ASW attack at 93,60

Japanese Ships
PC Ch 24
PC Ch 21
PC Takunan Maru #10
PC Takuna Maru #7
PC Takuna Maru #6
PC Shonon Maru #11
PC Shonon Maru #10
PC Shonon Maru #3
PC Sonan Maru #6
PC Sonan Maru #5
PC Kyo Maru #7
PC Kyo Maru #6
PC Fumi Maru #3

Allied Ships
SS S-31, hits 7,  on fire


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Ground combat at Chungking

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 180202 troops, 2194 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 5209

Defending force 176098 troops, 1242 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3849



Allied ground losses:
133 casualties reported


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Ground combat at 42,30

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 17380 troops, 180 guns, 3 vehicles, Assault Value = 246

Defending force 8858 troops, 11 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 55

Japanese max assault: 248 - adjusted assault: 200

Allied max defense: 55 - adjusted defense: 67

Japanese assault odds: 2 to 1


Japanese ground losses:
29 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Vehicles lost 1


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Ground combat at 23,47

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 5332 troops, 183 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 55

Defending force 1930 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2



Allied ground losses:
41 casualties reported


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RE: Lunacy AND Shrewdness - 6/26/2006 1:15:43 AM   
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Post #: 111
RE: Lunacy AND Shrewdness - 6/26/2006 1:23:56 AM   
itsjustme

 

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Status: offline 		I am just wondering if it will work or if my bombers will be so tired from the flight that they will just get caught on the ground.  Thoughts?

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Post #: 112
RE: Lunacy AND Shrewdness - 6/26/2006 2:08:07 AM   
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Status: offline 		The morale of your 4e bombers will not go down from the transfer, but they will have high fatigue which will lead to higher than normal combat loses. However, since this is a "no holds bar" game, I say go for it.

You might to do it on a turn when there is bad weather (rain) at Karachi and allow them a chance to rest.

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Post #: 113
RE: Lunacy AND Shrewdness - 7/1/2006 12:04:07 AM   
itsjustme

 

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 06/03/42
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TF 1064 encounters mine field at Dutch Harbor (103,36)

Allied Ships
MSW Quatsino

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ASW attack at 93,61

Japanese Ships
PC Ch 24
PC Ch 21
PC Takunan Maru #10
PC Takuna Maru #7
PC Takuna Maru #6
PC Shonon Maru #11
PC Shonon Maru #10
PC Shonon Maru #3
PC Sonan Maru #6
PC Sonan Maru #5
PC Kyo Maru #7
PC Kyo Maru #6
PC Fumi Maru #3

Allied Ships
SS Flying Fish, hits 1

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Karachi at 21,3

Japanese Ships
BB Kongo
BB Haruna
BB Hiei
BB Kirishima
BB Yamato
BB Hyuga
CA Tone
CA Chikuma
CA Takao
CA Maya
CA Chokai
CA Myoko
CA Nachi
CA Ashigara
CA Mogami
CA Mikuma
CA Kumano
CA Aoba
CA Kinugasa
CA Furutaka
DD Akigumo
DD Makigumo, Shell hits 2
DD Oyashio, Shell hits 1
DD Nowaki

Allied Ships
PT PT-36
PT PT-37, Shell hits 1, and is sunk

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Naval bombardment of Karachi, at 21,3


Allied aircraft
no flights


Allied aircraft losses
Dakota I: 4 destroyed
Beaufort V-IX: 3 destroyed
Blenheim I: 1 destroyed
B-25C Mitchell: 10 destroyed
PBY Catalina: 1 destroyed
Hurricane II: 1 destroyed
Blenheim IF: 1 destroyed
Swordfish: 1 destroyed
Wellington III: 1 destroyed
Kittyhawk I: 1 destroyed
Mohawk IV: 1 destroyed

Japanese Ships
CA Furutaka
CA Kinugasa
CA Aoba
CA Kumano
CA Mikuma
CA Mogami
CA Ashigara
CA Nachi
CA Myoko
CA Chokai
CA Maya
CA Takao
CA Chikuma
CA Tone
BB Hyuga
BB Yamato
BB Kirishima
BB Hiei
BB Haruna
BB Kongo

Allied Ships
SS KXVII, hits 31,  on fire,  heavy damage
AK Empire Adur, Shell hits 19,  on fire,  heavy damage
AP Dardanus, Shell hits 18,  on fire,  heavy damage
SS Grenadier, hits 25,  on fire,  heavy damage
MSW Cromarty, Shell hits 3,  on fire,  heavy damage
AK Empire Wildebeeste, Shell hits 13,  on fire,  heavy damage


Allied ground losses:
11244 casualties reported
Guns lost 107
Vehicles lost 30

Airbase hits 21
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 93
Port hits 57
Port fuel hits 5
Port supply hits 6
The Battline just nukes me.... 
 
The loss of these ships in harbor is not unexpected and really unavoidable.  They all had significant system and flotation damage and would have been unable to make a run to safety.

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TF 1035 encounters mine field at Dutch Harbor (103,36)

Allied Ships
SS Grenadier, and is sunk
SS KXVII, and is sunk
AK Empire Wildebeeste, and is sunk
AK Empire Adur, and is sunk
AP Dardanus, and is sunk
MSW Courtenay

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TF 1064 encounters mine field at Dutch Harbor (103,36)

Allied Ships
MSW Quatsino

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TF 1007 encounters mine field at Amchitka Island (96,36) - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

476 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Allied Ships
DMS Perry, Shell hits 75,  on fire,  heavy damage
DMS Hopkins, Shell hits 101,  on fire,  heavy damage
DMS Southard, Shell hits 91,  on fire,  heavy damage
CA Indianapolis, Mine hits 1
BB New Mexico, Mine hits 1
BB Mississippi, Mine hits 1

This really pisses me off and I don't understand it.  The DMSs were in the same task force as the BBs and CAs and escort bombardment was turned off.  They get plastered by the coastal guns and sink, yet my heavies don't get hit at all.  Anyone care to try and explain?
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Day Air attack on 10th Group Army, at 39,34

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 38

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
13 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
35 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet
3 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Karachi , at 21,3

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 9
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 52
Ki-21 Sally x 33
Ki-49 Helen x 36
Ki-46-II Dinah x 6

Allied aircraft
Lysander I x 1
Mohawk IV x 1
Hurricane II x 1
Kittyhawk I x 2
P-40B Tomahawk x 1
P-40E Warhawk x 1

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 3 destroyed, 1 damaged
Ki-21 Sally: 13 damaged
Ki-49 Helen: 1 destroyed, 10 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Lysander I: 1 destroyed
Mohawk IV: 1 damaged
Hurricane II: 2 destroyed
P-40B Tomahawk: 1 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 2 destroyed
B-25C Mitchell: 5 destroyed
Vildebeest IV: 1 destroyed
Beaufort V-IX: 2 destroyed
Dakota I: 3 destroyed
Buffalo I: 1 destroyed
PBY Catalina: 1 destroyed
Catalina I: 1 destroyed


Allied ground losses:
27 casualties reported

Airbase hits 9
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 51

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 6000 feet
5 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on Karachi , at 21,3

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 43
A6M3 Zero x 6
Ki-21 Sally x 104
Ki-49 Helen x 6
Ki-46-II Dinah x 4

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 2 destroyed, 25 damaged
Ki-49 Helen: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Kittyhawk I: 2 destroyed
Dakota I: 2 destroyed
B-25C Mitchell: 6 destroyed
Beaufort V-IX: 3 destroyed
Hurricane II: 2 destroyed
PBY Catalina: 3 destroyed
Catalina I: 1 destroyed


Allied ground losses:
49 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 8
Runway hits 61

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
6 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
5 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
6 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
9 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
1 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
2 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
2 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on Karachi , at 21,3

Japanese aircraft
Ki-46-II Dinah x 2

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-46-II Dinah: 1 destroyed

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Day Air attack on Trimcomalee , at 15,25

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 12

Allied aircraft
SB-2c x 2

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M Nell: 1 destroyed


Runway hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x SB-2c bombing at 5000 feet
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Day Air attack on Colombo , at 14,24

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 11
Ki-21 Sally x 27
Ki-49 Helen x 19

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 1 damaged
Ki-49 Helen: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Wirraway: 1 destroyed

Airbase hits 17
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 50

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
9 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 6000 feet
9 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on 71st Chinese Division, at 39,35

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 24
Ki-48 Lily x 76

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
38 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet
6 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet
24 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet
5 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet
15 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet
9 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet
7 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet
6 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet
8 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on 81st PA Division, at 42,58

Japanese aircraft
A5M4 Claude x 67
D3A Val x 155
B5N Kate x 170
Ki-27 Nate x 171
Ki-51 Sonia x 20
Ki-15 Babs x 4

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
8 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet
20 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet
18 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet
6 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet
18 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet
6 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet
6 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
5 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
5 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet
20 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet
20 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet
15 x A5M4 Claude bombing at 2000 feet
4 x A5M4 Claude bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
13 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
4 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet
14 x A5M4 Claude bombing at 2000 feet
15 x A5M4 Claude bombing at 2000 feet
11 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
9 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet
13 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
12 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet
9 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
9 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet
11 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
9 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet
9 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
11 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet
13 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
11 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet
9 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
9 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet
9 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
3 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet
3 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet
3 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet
8 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet
10 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet
11 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet
3 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet
3 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet
3 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet
7 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet
7 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet
9 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet
3 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet
3 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
3 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
3 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
3 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet
9 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet
9 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet
6 x A5M4 Claude bombing at 2000 feet
3 x A5M4 Claude bombing at 2000 feet
3 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
7 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
3 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
3 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet
5 x A5M4 Claude bombing at 2000 feet
5 x A5M4 Claude bombing at 2000 feet
6 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
4 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet
6 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
6 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet
6 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
4 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet
6 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
4 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet
5 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
4 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
4 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet
4 x D3A Val bombing at 2000 feet
4 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet
3 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet
4 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet
3 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet
4 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet
4 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet
6 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet
2 x B5N Kate bombing at 21000 feet
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Day Air attack on Karachi , at 21,3

Japanese aircraft
Ki-46-II Dinah x 1

No Japanese losses

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Day Time Surface Combat, near Karachi at 21,3

Japanese Ships
BB Kongo
BB Haruna
BB Hiei
BB Kirishima
BB Yamato
BB Hyuga
CA Tone
CA Chikuma
CA Takao
CA Maya
CA Chokai
CA Myoko
CA Nachi
CA Ashigara
CA Mogami
CA Mikuma
CA Kumano
CA Aoba
CA Kinugasa
CA Furutaka
DD Akigumo
DD Makigumo
DD Oyashio
DD Nowaki

Allied Ships
PT PT-36, Shell hits 9, and is sunk

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Naval bombardment of Amchitka Island, at 96,36 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

214 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Allied Ships
CA Chicago, Shell hits 17
CA Louisville, Shell hits 15
CA Northampton
CA Indianapolis
CA Portland, Shell hits 26
BB Mississippi
BB New Mexico
BB Idaho, Shell hits 25
BB Colorado, Shell hits 29

Japanese ground losses:
27 casualties reported

This looks bad, but none of the ships suffer any flotation damage and the highest system damage is 7. 
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Ground combat at Chungking

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 180822 troops, 2215 guns, 7 vehicles, Assault Value = 3491

Defending force 175892 troops, 1235 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3860



Allied ground losses:
154 casualties reported
Guns lost 1


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Ground combat at Chengtu

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 7914 troops, 8 guns, 493 vehicles, Assault Value = 242

Defending force 16547 troops, 56 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 261

Japanese max assault: 191 - adjusted assault: 36

Allied max defense: 261 - adjusted defense: 106

Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 3)


Japanese ground losses:
80 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Vehicles lost 5

Allied ground losses:
623 casualties reported
Guns lost 29

All in all a very frustrating turn.  I am trying to find someplace to hit back, but Nemo is doing  a great job of defending everywhere with decent strength.

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RE: Lunacy AND Shrewdness - 7/1/2006 1:51:35 PM   
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RE: Lunacy AND Shrewdness - 7/1/2006 2:20:48 PM   
Fishbed

 

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quote:

TF 1007 encounters mine field at Amchitka Island (96,36) - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

476 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Allied Ships
DMS Perry, Shell hits 75, on fire, heavy damage
DMS Hopkins, Shell hits 101, on fire, heavy damage
DMS Southard, Shell hits 91, on fire, heavy damage
CA Indianapolis, Mine hits 1
BB New Mexico, Mine hits 1
BB Mississippi, Mine hits 1

This really pisses me off and I don't understand it. The DMSs were in the same task force as the BBs and CAs and escort bombardment was turned off. They get plastered by the coastal guns and sink, yet my heavies don't get hit at all. Anyone care to try and explain?

This phase was a minesweeping phase. Any MS that enters an enemy base mined hex is subject both to sweeping and to become dead meat for the coastal batteries. Looks like you triggered a double battery fire phase for his forces - the minesweeping one and the naval bombardement one. Bad luck

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RE: Lunacy AND Shrewdness - 7/3/2006 2:40:14 AM   
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TF 1035 encounters mine field at Dutch Harbor (103,36)

Allied Ships
MSW Courtenay

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TF 1064 encounters mine field at Dutch Harbor (103,36)

Allied Ships
MSW Quatsino

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Day Air attack on 10th Group Army, at 39,34

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 29

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
12 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
26 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet
3 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Chungking , at 43,32

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 22
Ki-48 Lily x 94
Ki-46-II Dinah x 5
Ki-15 Babs x 9

Allied aircraft
I-153c x 3
I-16c x 7

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-27 Nate: 2 destroyed
Ki-48 Lily: 2 destroyed, 15 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
I-153c: 3 destroyed
I-16c: 2 destroyed, 3 damaged


Allied ground losses:
6 casualties reported

Airbase hits 15
Airbase supply hits 6
Runway hits 65

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 16000 feet
13 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 16000 feet
6 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 16000 feet
10 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 16000 feet
9 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 16000 feet
5 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 16000 feet
3 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 16000 feet
3 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 16000 feet
11 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 16000 feet
6 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 16000 feet
3 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 16000 feet
6 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 16000 feet
2 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 16000 feet
3 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 16000 feet
3 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 16000 feet
3 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 16000 feet
2 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 16000 feet

Chungking continues to get pounded.

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Day Air attack on Colombo , at 14,24

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 8
Ki-21 Sally x 21

Allied aircraft
Wirraway x 7

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 7 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Wirraway: 1 damaged

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 7

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on 1st Tank Regiment, at 36,25


Allied aircraft
SB-2c x 7


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
6 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 1

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x SB-2c bombing at 5000 feet
3 x SB-2c bombing at 5000 feet
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Day Air attack on 119th USAAF Base Force, at 38,59

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 133

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
57 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet
20 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet
19 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet
6 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet
23 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet
7 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet
7 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet
21 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet
24 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 2nd Chinese Cavalry Corps, at 45,35

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 10

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x Ki-27 Nate bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 51st Base Force, at 108,86

Japanese aircraft
G4M1 Betty x 11

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed, 8 damaged


Allied ground losses:
18 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 20,6


Allied aircraft
Wellington III x 3


Allied aircraft losses
Wellington III: 3 damaged

Japanese Ships
BB Haruna

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Wellington III bombing at 7000 feet

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Ground combat at Chungking

Japanese Bombardment attack

Attacking force 163940 troops, 2085 guns, 9 vehicles, Assault Value = 3316

Defending force 172406 troops, 1208 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3862



Allied ground losses:
268 casualties reported


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Ground combat at 42,30

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 17337 troops, 172 guns, 5 vehicles, Assault Value = 250

Defending force 7701 troops, 1 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 46

Japanese max assault: 253 - adjusted assault: 27

Allied max defense: 41 - adjusted defense: 49

Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1


Japanese ground losses:
4 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Allied ground losses:
13 casualties reported


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Post #: 117
Houston, we have a problem - 7/9/2006 10:02:43 PM   
itsjustme

 

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Status: offline 		It's become clear to me that Nemo is upset with me.  I need advice on how to deal with this.

Nemo has engaged Karachi and in an effort to defend this critical city in this lunacy game, I have begun moving everything but the kitchen sink into Karachi.  This was permitted by our agreed upon rules at the beginning of the game (teleportation around the map was permissible).  Now as it is becoming clear that taking Karachi will be VERY difficult, if not impossible, Nemo is complaining about the teleportation tactic.  In response to his concerns, I have offered the only compromise I believe I can live with: A cease fire until 10.43, no offensives out of Karachi until after that date, no airborne operations out of Karachi until after I have cleared the city hex adjoining Karachi (this will permit Nemo some level of comfort and no need to use forces to garrison other cities) and no naval sorties from Karachi until after 10.43.   To date Nemo has chosen not to accept the trade off, which is fine, however, I need to know whether to continue to move troops into Karachi or not.  Instead it appears that he is going to take another run at trying to reduce Karachi and then decide if to take my offer.  This is obviously unfair on a number of levels.

I understood from the beginning that if Karachi fell I would lose access to these troops for the remainder of the game (something completely not possible IRL, but something I accepted as an agreed upon rule), now, however, it seems to me that while Nemo is more than happy to take advantage of the Japanese first move teleportation, he is incensed by my willingness to use it to my advantage.  He also appears to be upset with my flying bombers through Russia to Karachi.  Again, this was not suggested as impermissible during our negotiations of the game.

Can someone please provide some insight on the reasonableness of my position?  I am enjoying the game very much, but believe that what is good for the goose should be good for the gander.  Thanks for reading and hopefully I'll be back to posting combat updates soon.

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RE: Houston, we have a problem - 7/9/2006 10:15:13 PM   
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< Message edited by Nomad -- 7/9/2006 10:34:15 PM >

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Post #: 119
RE: Houston, we have a problem - 7/9/2006 10:17:23 PM   
itsjustme

 

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Status: offline 		Nomad,

Thanks for your reply.  Although I appreciate the response, please don't quote from Nemo's AAR (no matter how innocuously) as I don't want to be subject to any accusations of having information not intended for my eyes.

Thanks again for posting and I appreciate the support.

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