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RE: Europe - 4/20/2006 6:56:23 PM   
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Think I'll "modify" the Clarke...


Do it! It's only pixels!

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RE: Europe - 4/20/2006 7:09:33 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Speedy

Also,

Guys we have the 'Frapper' which shows where some people are located..........

Frapper???

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RE: Europe - 4/20/2006 7:13:23 PM   
Ursa MAior

 

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We should start a where are you from topic I dont wanna exclude the yanks/rebels. Mdielh or demosthenes might get insulted if we keep talking about Europe only.

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RE: Europe - 4/20/2006 7:13:29 PM   
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RE: Europe - 4/20/2006 7:37:41 PM   
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Croatian Mines, don't look like any of the ones I saw when I was over there...


I'm guess you were a in UN mission ?

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RE: Europe - 4/20/2006 7:40:52 PM   
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RE: Europe - 4/20/2006 7:51:59 PM   
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Status: offline 		I recently partook in a DNA reasearch project to explore our deep ancestry. The people in white coats took a look at my Y chromosome, which, as you probably know, is passed down "whole" from father to son. It thus explores my line of paternal descent only, which of course make up on a small part of my total genetic heritage.

Turns out I descend on the paternal side from a group of people who migrated from the Middle East to Europe via the Balkans about 20,000 BC. Archeologically they're associated with the so-called Gravettian culture. You've probably seen the little, fat Venus figurines these people fashioned, among other things.

Haplogroup I, as this branch of the human tree is called, is found throughout Europe and to a lesser extend Asia Minor, and by extension whereever the descended of migrants from these areas live.

Haplogroup I is particularly prevelant on Sardinia, the northwestern Balkans, and Scandinavia. Nowhere do they make up a majority of the population.

Populations with > 15% haplogroup I:

Italian (Sardinia): 42.3%
Bosnian: 42.0%
Swedish (South Sweden): 40.5%
Norwegian: 40.3%
Danish: 38.7%
Slovenian: 38.2%
Croat (mainland): 38.1%
German: 37.5%
Gagauz (Moldova): 31.6%
Saamic: 31.4%
Macedonian (northern Greece): 30.0%
Moldavian: 28.3%
Dutch: 26.7%
Swedish (North Sweden): 26.3%
Russian (Adygea): 24.4%
French (Low Normandy): 23.8%
Albanian: 23.6%
Hungarian: 22.8%
Russian (Cossacks): 22.7%
Romanian: 22.2%
Ukrainian: 21.9%
Mordvin: 19.3%
Byelorussian: 19.0%
Russian (Kostroma region): 18.9%
Estonian: 18.6%
English: 18.4%
Polish: 17.8%
Russian (Belgorod region): 16.7%
Scottish (Scottish Isles) 16.5%
French (Southern France): 15.8%

Different samples will come up with different numbers, but the trends are the same.

For the technically inclined, I belong to the haplogroup subclade I1a-AS4

It also appears I've got a strange mutation on a segment of my Y-chromosome. GF1 thinks it explains allsorts...

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RE: Europe - 4/20/2006 8:24:40 PM   
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RE: Europe - 4/20/2006 8:26:45 PM   
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Croatian Mines, don't look like any of the ones I saw when I was over there...


Don't look Bosnian either...

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RE: Europe - 4/20/2006 8:39:27 PM   
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RE: Europe - 4/20/2006 8:41:08 PM   
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Status: offline 		Actualy the first king of the United Kingdom was the Scottish king James VI who became King James I of England and the United Kingdom after Elizabeth I died :)

Scotland has its own set of laws, both criminal and Civil and the Stone of Destiny (the fake one at leastwas returned to Scotland and now lives in Edinburgh Castle

Margaret Thatcher actually broke the act of union when she initaited the Poll Tax in Scotland a year before England, soooo I am wondering if we are still united

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RE: Europe - 4/20/2006 8:41:19 PM   
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RE: Europe - 4/20/2006 8:54:04 PM   
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RE: Europe - 4/20/2006 8:55:31 PM   
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Croatian Mines, don't look like any of the ones I saw when I was over there...


Pink pansy, it's not like you ever stepped on one!

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< Message edited by Honda -- 4/20/2006 8:59:04 PM >

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RE: Europe - 4/20/2006 8:57:17 PM   
Radzy

 

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unfortunatly i do only know Žalgiris = green forest (Grunwald - where Teutonic knights were defeated by Lithuanians)



It is my sad duty to inform You, that You are partially wrong... Grunwald was indeed place of one of greatest medieval battles (probably 3rd most bloody). But it were Poles who defeated Teutonic Knights... Lithuanians were also there and took part in battle (along with Tatars & Czechs) but as their army consisted mostly of light cavalry they could not stand against heavy armored cavalry of Teutonic Order Guests.

By the way I'm Polish too...:)

KR
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RE: Europe - 4/20/2006 9:06:07 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well seaid... from what i know that Lithuanian light Cavalery probed the Teutonic knights lines reveling covered holes dug to trap polish heavy Cavalery... any way from that moment ouer nations stood toghter for nearly 400 years

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RE: Europe - 4/20/2006 9:08:20 PM   
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(\.../)
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Why aren't both eyes on bunny of the same size?


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RE: Europe - 4/20/2006 9:17:57 PM   
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Well seaid... from what i know that Lithuanian light Cavalery probed the Teutonic knights lines reveling covered holes dug to trap polish heavy Cavalery... any way from that moment ouer nations stood toghter for nearly 400 years


Did the Polish Winged Lancers exist at the time of Grunwald?

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RE: Europe - 4/20/2006 9:18:49 PM   
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Why aren't both eyes on bunny of the same size?


Acid test.

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RE: Europe - 4/20/2006 9:32:14 PM   
Przemcio231


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RE: Europe - 4/20/2006 9:33:36 PM   
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RE: Europe - 4/20/2006 9:41:35 PM   
Przemcio231


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Status: offline 		Well small error they were created in the early 16th Century and i think their finest victory came in 1605 near Kircholm were Polish army consisting of 1400 infantry 2400 cavalery and few cannons faced Swedish army od 8,500 Infantry , 2500 cavalery and 11 Cannons at the end poles lost about 100 KIA and 200 WIA of wich only 13 were Winged Lancers called Hussars and the Swed's lost some 6,500 to 7000 men... The other great Victory of the Hussars came in 1683 when they Charged the Turks besieging Wienna Routing their army completly...

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RE: Europe - 4/20/2006 9:42:59 PM   
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Well not i think they were created somwhere in the end of the 16th century


I know they fought to lift the Turkish siege of Vienna in 1683, under Jan III Sobieski...

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RE: Europe - 4/20/2006 9:51:42 PM   
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Status: offline 		Exactly but there they only routed the Turks inflicting them about 10.000 Casualitys some time ago near the Place called Parkany where the Turkish Army was completly wiped out

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RE: Europe - 4/20/2006 9:53:34 PM   
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RE: Europe - 4/20/2006 9:54:41 PM   
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RE: Europe - 4/20/2006 9:56:53 PM   
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and here's the painting... of a polish Winged Lancer





Your Lancer lost its wings!


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RE: Europe - 4/20/2006 10:08:43 PM   
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Did the Polish Winged Lancers exist at the time of Grunwald?


Nay, Polish Winged Lancers (Husaria, hussars) were first presumably "used" during Battle of Orsza 1514. However as the separate formation they were first used in late XVI century...

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RE: Europe - 4/20/2006 10:10:50 PM   
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Well small error they were created in the early 16th Century and i think their finest victory came in 1605 near Kircholm were Polish army consisting of 1400 infantry 2400 cavalery and few cannons faced Swedish army od 8,500 Infantry , 2500 cavalery and 11 Cannons at the end poles lost about 100 KIA and 200 WIA of wich only 13 were Winged Lancers called Hussars and the Swed's lost some 6,500 to 7000 men... The other great Victory of the Hussars came in 1683 when they Charged the Turks besieging Wienna Routing their army completly...


And in 1656 outside Warsaw the Poles/Hussars were decimated by the Swedes.

Win some lose some.

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RE: Europe - 4/20/2006 10:13:12 PM   
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