Slitherine

1. Soviet Navy variant. This variant is designed to be played by PBEM, or playing as the Allies against the Japanese AI. In this version, The Soviet fleet is present from the start of the scenario. This variant can ONLY be played if the Game Option "Automatic Submarine Options" ("Auto Sub Ops") is NOT used, as the AI cannot properly handle a Soviet fleet.
   
   
2. No Soviet navy variant. This variant is designed to be played by PBEM, playing as the Allies against the Japanese AI or playing as the Japanese against the Allied AI. In this version, the Soviet fleet becomes available around the time of automatic Soviet activation (450801) and not before, even if the Soviets are attacked. Note: CHS is not really designed to be played with an Allied AI, due to difficulties that the AI has with some of the new island bases that have been added to the scenario.
   
   
3. Modified A2A variant: This variant has modified scenario data similar to that used in the "Nik Mod" by Nikademus. Specifically, the following data changes are applied:
   
   * The endurance values of all aircraft are increased by 50%.
   * The effect rating of all AA/DP weapons has been increased by 50%.
   * The accuracy ratings of all air-to-air weapons has been decreased by 50%.
   * The maximum speed value range has been compressed by halving the difference between actual aircraft max speed and a centre point of 350 MPH.
   
   
4. Experimental A2A variant: This variant has modified scenario data similar to that used in the "Nik Mod" by Nikademus, but with some additional changes. Specifically, the following data changes are applied:
   
   * The starting experience values of all Allied pilots has been decreased by 10%, except for USN pilots.
   * The starting experience values of all USN and Japanese pilots has been decreased by 5%.
   * The Zero bonus has been removed (this is compensated for by the larger reduction in Allied pilot experience).
   * The endurance values of all aircraft are increased by 50%.
   * The effect rating of all AA/DP weapons has been increased by 50%.
   * The accuracy ratings of all air-to-air weapons has been decreased by 50%.
   * The maximum speed value range has been compressed by halving the difference between actual aircraft max speed and a centre point of 350 MPH.
   
   This variant is UNTESTED and EXPERIMENTAL. use at your own risk! This variant may also change, depending on the success, or otherwise, of these modifications.
   

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TOAWIII .... my finals!

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ORIGINAL: irrelevant

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TOAWIII .... my finals!

Tough choice

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ORIGINAL: RAM

Damn! it sucks to see that after so much work you've done on the soviet fleet OOB and to include it into CHS 2.0, most of it will be gone because this issue (until august 1945, that is).

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ORIGINAL: Andrew Brown

There looks to be a big problem (another one) with the Soviet fleet. I noticed a message in the WitP Support forum that ships cannot refuel from Soviet ports even when the Soviets are active. I have to admit that this is someting I didn't test. All of the testing I did with the Soviet fleet was with them not activated - to see how they would behave while the SU was neutral (answer - not very well).

I just did a quick test and I think that other poster ("Yuri") is right. Ships, even Soviet ones, cannot refuel from Soviet ports even after the Soviets are activated. I think this is a bug, as I remember that in the early days of WitP Allied subs could refuel at Vladivostok, which was a huge loophole in the game, and this was plugged by the designers. It looks like they may have made that "plug" so big that it prevents ALL refuelling from Soviet ports for the entire game. And I won't be holding my breath waiting for this bug to be fixed.

Oh well, the Soviet fleet appears to be a "one shot" wonder. I can leave the Soviet fleet variant there for the sake of curiosity, but the fleet will not be all that useful!

Andrew

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ORIGINAL: Ron Saueracker

I'm finally going to convert the CHS to a non respawn version based on 2.0. I'll send it to Andrew after I've completed it for verification and adoption.

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ORIGINAL: DD696

I notice that Aden receives just 1000 tons of supply per day, and 2-3 other locations in India receive about 200 tons each per day. There is also not much fuel arriving at Aden. Will this cause a significant shortage of supplies/fuel or is this the design? I did not notice disabled supply/oil centers during my quick scan of the area.

1. Aden did not have the resources and oil centres, and additional daily fuel and supplies, that were removed when the Middle East base was removed. That had now been fixed - Aden now has the combined oil. resources, fuel and supplies from the former Aden and Middle East bases.
   
2. Many Chinese LCUs had incorrect planning targets. Some Soviet LCUs and a few other Allied LCUs were also affected. All Allied LCUs have now had their planning targets set correctly (this was a product of the same WitP editor "effect" that also affected some Japanese LCUs, which was already corrected).
   
3. The following LCUs have had their Arrival dates changed to 0 (were in the range 411201 to 411207):
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   Unit
   3085 9th RDH Cavalry
   144 222 Group RAF
   1740 1st Man. Dist. Army
   1741 2nd Man. Dist. Army
   1744 3rd Man. Dist. Army
   1749 4th Man. Dist. Army
   1750 5th Man. Dist Army
   2896 11th US CBT
   2672 73rd US
   2674 82nd US
   2677 83rd US
   
4. The "2nd Marine Para" LCU has had its arrival date changed from 411208 to 411209, so that it will arrive on map.
   
5. A number of Soviet ships had incorrect arrival dates in both the "Soviet Fleet" and "No Soviet Fleet" scenarios. All have now been fixed.
   
6. The Liberator VI endurance is now the same as the B-24J - 835.
   

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ORIGINAL: Andrew Brown

CHS is now at version 2.02.

Here is the list of fixes:

1. Aden did not have the resources and oil centres, and additional daily fuel and supplies, that were removed when the Middle East base was removed. That had now been fixed - Aden now has the combined oil. resources, fuel and supplies from the former Aden and Middle East bases.
   
2. Many Chinese LCUs had incorrect planning targets. Some Soviet LCUs and a few other Allied LCUs were also affected. All Allied LCUs have now had their planning targets set correctly (this was a product of the same WitP editor "effect" that also affected some Japanese LCUs, which was already corrected).
   
3. The following LCUs have had their Arrival dates changed to 0 (were in the range 411201 to 411207):
   Slot
   Unit
   3085 9th RDH Cavalry
   144 222 Group RAF
   1740 1st Man. Dist. Army
   1741 2nd Man. Dist. Army
   1744 3rd Man. Dist. Army
   1749 4th Man. Dist. Army
   1750 5th Man. Dist Army
   2896 11th US CBT
   2672 73rd US
   2674 82nd US
   2677 83rd US
   
4. The "2nd Marine Para" LCU has had its arrival date changed from 411208 to 411209, so that it will arrive on map.
   
5. A number of Soviet ships had incorrect arrival dates in both the "Soviet Fleet" and "No Soviet Fleet" scenarios. All have now been fixed.
   
6. The Liberator VI endurance is now the same as the B-24J - 835.
   

The scenario is available for download from my CHS web page (link in top post).

Andrew

PS: Please keep informing me of any errors that you find.

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ORIGINAL: DD696

I reckon you are right, Halsey. I just fired up the stock scenerio 15 as well as the new CHS 2.02 scenerio 159 playing 1.800.1 with the Japanese set as the computer player and myself as the Allied player. In both cases I am able to get in the first move on 7 December. I can form up the battle line at Pearl Harbor and sail them out of harm's way. Just did so in stock...moved all the capital ships and some DD escorts out of Pearl to the south. I can do so many more things to protect the allies on their 7 December turn that I just just very surprised I never remembered doing it before. It always seemed like the Allies never before "got" a turn on 7 December....that their turns began on 8 December 1941. Always remembered the Japanese got first crack at the Allies.....Day of Infamy and all that. Just tried my 3.00 version of RHS and the Allies do not get a move on 7 Dec 1941....the scenerio loads and the game takes off the with Japanese assault. My Iron Storn install works as RHS.

But then I do have five installs of WITP. If Halsey is right then everything is well and fine except for my RHS and Iron Storm. Just need to figure out what to do to get this 7 December 1941 turn that I seem to be missing in them. But then again, I could have buggered up the installs. Did my memory really fail this bad on me???

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ORIGINAL: DD696
But then I do have five installs of WITP.

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ORIGINAL: ny59giants

I just updated the scenarios to 2.02 and was looking at supply at various bases. In scen 150, San Fran get only 2200 supply per day and 2000 fuel. Is that correct?? It seems very low to me. In the stock game it is 25,000 supply. A decrease of 90% seems very high.