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RE: Should I Restart this AAR? - 10/23/2007 8:03:46 AM

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Hi John - keep at it! Us Jap players have to lose in the end no matter what... kind of like being the bad guy in a movie - but don't the bad guys always have the sexy girls around?

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RE: Should I Restart this AAR? - 10/23/2007 8:59:14 AM

John 3rd

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DAMNED fine thinking Sir! I cannot complain about your rationale whatsoever...

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RE: Should I Restart this AAR? - 10/24/2007 8:56:28 PM

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Another vote for keeping it up, just finished reading both sides of the AAR and have picked up some interesting stuff .

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October 1942--The State of the Fleet - 10/25/2007 8:06:36 AM

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OK. Here goes the first update. The current game turn in October 10, 1942.

Perth Disaster
Very LITTLE has happened since I abandoned the Perth Operation. Nearly 100,000 troops still sit in the Perth hex and I cannot do anything to save them. I just had a flotilla of 15 I-Boats pick-up elements of the 65th Brigade. They will drop them off, turn around, and pick up elements of another land combat unit. The troops are holding out at Perth quite well since they have been on their own for nearly 5 weeks...

I have a sizeable amount of Fleet units at Soerabaja: BB Yamato, 4 CA, 2 CL, and 25 DD. They have 4 AO present as well. I keep thinking of sending in a Cover Group and a Fast Transport TF to pick-up a large block of troops. Have huge fears as to the operation being cost prohibitive.

Fleet Status
Let me break this down into sunk, repairing, and operational:

Sunk
CV: Hiryu, Junyo, and Hiyo
CVL: Shoho and Zuiho
CVE: Taiyo and Chuyo
BB: Hiei, Nagato, and Fuso
CA: Kako
CL: 10 total--OUCH!

DD: 63----HOLY COW!

I had not idea that I had lost so many DDs.

SS: I-Boats--13 and Ro-Boats--7

Under Repair or Upgrade:
Since I cannot import a graph here, let me handle it this way.

Carriers First: I will list the Carrier, Location, System Damage, and experience of its F/DB/TB Crew:
Zuikaku (Shanghai) 15 Sys, F 73, DB 70, and TB 67
Shokaku (Okayama) 34 Sys, F 65, DB 65, TB 71
Akagi (Hiroshima) 9 Sys, F 73, DB 69, and TB 89
Kaga (Nagasaki) 8 Sys, F 73, DB 5, TB 90
Soryu (Toyko) 9 Sys, F 67, DB 77, TB 81
CVE Unyo (Singapore) 30 Sys

Operational Carriers: (TF is operating SW of Java looking for Convoys) 2 CVL, 1 CVE, 1 CA, 6 DD
Ryujo (48 Planes) F 48 and TB 71
Ryuho (30 Planes) F 45 and TB 54
Hosho (10 Planes) F 51 and TB 63

Total CVs: 5 CV (351 Trained Crew), 2 CVL (78 Poorly Trained Crew), and 2 CVE

Construction: CV Taiho and Unryu are accelerated and 386 Days out with Amagi at 439 Days.

Battleships:
Under Repair
Ise (Nagasaki) 23 Sys
Hyuga (Hiroshima) 16 Sys
Mutsu (Tokyo) 15 Sys
Haruna (Okayama) 18 Sys
Kirishima (Sapporo) 6 Sys
Kongo (Ominato) 17 Sys

Operational:
BB Yamato as described above

Construction:
BB Musashi due in 210 Days

9 CAs are spread throughout the Home Isles and Shanghai in far better repair shape.

6 CLs (those that remain) are also spread througout the Home Isles

24 DD are also located in the Home Isles

12 SS are spread through Sapporo, Hakodate, and Sendai repairing

Singapore has become a repair site and CVE Unyo, 2 CA, and 5 DD are there.

I still have a substantial portion of the Fleet and most of it shall be operational by November 1, 1942. Question is what to do with it? I will have to be subtle and try to 'create' some situations that I can exploit into a favorable battle. Still have some time before their big CV reinforcements arrive.

I have sunk the Enterprise, Lexington and severaly damaged the Wasp. STILL wish I could have finished her at Midway six weeks ago!

This, then, is the Imperial Fleet. Thoughts? Questions??

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RE: October 1942--The State of the Fleet - 10/25/2007 9:12:00 AM

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hope you have taken the airgroups off the repairing carriers to go on training...

looks like you will be very short on DDs!

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RE: October 1942--The State of the Fleet - 10/25/2007 2:38:21 PM

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I'm glad you are keeping this going.

Your DD situation does look bleak. I assume you are accelerating those under production? You are going to need them to provide enough escorts when the CVs finish repair and upgrade.

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RE: October 1942--The State of the Fleet - 10/26/2007 4:54:33 AM

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Next time you send 15 I-boats to perth, have each one pick up a squad from a different LCU. Once you have a squad of each, then go back to grabbing larger chunks of single units each trip.

Given the DD situation I don't think I'd send a fast transport fleet down there.

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Late-October 1942 - 11/6/2007 3:00:43 AM

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I just wanted to post for a minute since I haven't done so in a while. We continue crawling along at a glacial pace with this game. The best we do is one turn every other day. As many of you know, it makes things harder to keep flowing when the game isn't being passed back-and-forth once or twice a day.

We are in late-October. The Allies are DOING nothing other then bombing. I cannot believe that amount of 4EB! Port Moresby is being hit by at least 100+ Liberators, Timor is dealing with nearly 150 B-17/B-24, and BURMA...man...there at least 300-400+ bombers of all types working there. I simply cannot keep enough Tonys/Tojos in the air to knock them down.

The Fleet is gradually getting fixed up. I have three heavy CV sitting in Tokyo Bay fully upgraded and ready. Everything else is still getting worked on.

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RE: Late-October 1942 - 11/20/2007 7:34:38 PM

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Hello Readers!

We are finally approaching November 1942. I intend to do a comprehensive economy update at that point.

We're not even managing a turn every OTHER day att he moment so it is slow going.

There have been no developments to speak of.

Perth--I managed to lift about 750 troops of the 65th Infantry Brigade by SS from Perth. My troops there continue to hold but the Allies have crept up to a 1-1 attack strength. My 24 I-Boats have turned around and I have devided them into 6 groups. Each group will lift troops from one unit to bring home to Koepang. Primarily, I will be looking at Infantry units but a base force or two might be good also. Am not sure about lifting out any HQ units.

The Combined Fleet--After nearly a month in dock at Japan, the Combined Fleet isn't too far from being ready for active operations again. The question is WHERE? I have enough strength that I could bloody the Allies nose in a single spot. Have to be much more careful with the Fleet.

I still keep thinking about a naval aerial attack at units near Perth and then send in several Fast Transport TF to lift out a sizeable number of stranded troops. There is real risk in doing this so I have to think about it. I know the British CVs are at Perth because they are attacking my troops there.

Any thoughts on that?

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RE: Late-October 1942 - 11/21/2007 4:00:54 PM

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Re evacing HQs:

IIRC HQs respawn on the reinforcements list approx 60 days delay at 33% strength.
I think this is correct - can anyone else definitively confirm?

Re Perth:

It's gonna be a big gamble. If it was only a short distance to your own bases then i'd go for it, but at that distance......

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RE: Late-October 1942 - 11/21/2007 5:28:50 PM

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Yeah, Perth is a long way to go for a Fast Transport TF. I take it you'd have no air cover to provide the TF? I can't remember where your CVs are now.

Is air transport an option?

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RE: Late-October 1942 - 11/21/2007 7:10:22 PM

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I'm about to give advice to my RHS PBEM opponent.

Forget about using your ships for Fast Transport. It's not worth the risk. You have already felt the effects of going up against the Beauforts and other torpedo carrying LB. I would use your subs set at full speed with Perth as their destination (Sub Patrol vs Transport). Once there, change over to Transport and load up (remember to click on "do not unload"). You will get a higher amount of sys damage, but I have ran mine up to the low 40's without getting sunk (not our game, but my other PBEM in mid 8/42). They can be repaired after you are done. There is a faster turn around time vs going with only mission and/or cruise speed.

Now, one of my trade secrets is out.

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RE: Late-October 1942 - 11/21/2007 11:16:48 PM

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Good, sound, and thoughtful advice gentlemen.

Comments:
1. I will boost my speed on the I-Boats. Michael--ANY troops I get out will be better then none! I've got 20 I-Boats in groups of 4 making these runs. Next lift should start in about 3 game days--approx Nov 1st.

2. You guys have my agreement about the risks outweighing the benefits for a Fast Transport run from Koepang to Perth.

3. The KB will begin to reform in Toyko Bay starting November 1st and then will sail. Since I know that Brit CVs are at Perth, I COULD stage a raid there; however, he does have nearly 300 planes present. I don't think ANY on CAP. Perhaps I could sneak-in, strike, and run away!

Only other option would be to try to do something REALLY sneaky with the KB and get into his supply lanes somewhere and wreak a little havoc...

Thoughts
1. I cannot believe that my opponents have done NOTHING for nearly 6 weeks. Have I hurt them that badly that they can't? I doubt it. Are they simply conservative? perhaps...

2. I am trying to spring a surprise next round in Burma. I moved two Sentai of Tonys to Mandalay and Lashio. These 144 planes are at about 70 in XP and I am going to try to interdict the bomber stream coming into my troops. The Allies have moved three units (a Brit Division, Art Reg, and support unit) into the hex where the roads turns south to Mandalay from Myitkyina. I attacked there a few days ago and got a 1-1. Since then I have sent another Inf Div, 2 Inf Brigades, and 2 Art Regiments--they will attack as my Tonys try to slow down the aerial assault. It will be bloody! Adding to this, I have 54 Zero and 150 Bombers (various types) who are going to hit the Allied ground units there at the same time. Perhaps I can knock the troops back into the trail they emrged from...

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RE: Late-October 1942 - 11/22/2007 9:56:00 PM

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Forgot to add, have the subs bring supplies to Perth. Evey little bit helps.

Do you have the base at Perth?? If so, then the subs set to transport will stay there after they unload supplies. If not, they will drop them off and start heading back. Thus, you would need to change them to patrol and have them go back to Perth. Then, you can chnage them to transport and do your evac. You may lose part of a day or two doing it this way. You can try it or go with the other method I described.

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Surprise! - 11/23/2007 7:35:34 AM

John 3rd

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My Allie Nate and I managed to spring a trap on the Allies that actually worked!

Having watched the endless Allied bomber stream nail our ground units for 2-3 weeks, we moved 4 Sentai of Tony (144 planes) to Lashio and Mandalay. We set them on LR CAP at the location of where the railline turns south from Myitkyina towards Mandalay.

October 28, 1942 dawns bright and clear and the FURBALL commences! Five major Allied raids come in throughout the day and our Tonys dive from out of the sun to slash through them! The Allies send a total of 95 Fighters (mainly P-40/Hurricanes/Spitfires) and 282 bombers of various type. Each of the five raids is met by between 16 to 47 Tony. By the late-afternoon, the scores ends at 51 Allied Fighters (30 P-40/20 Spitfires/1 Hurricane) and 28 Bombers (total 85 planes) for 34 Tony (with only 23 pilots killed or wounded)! A quick tally of the scores indicate a 2.4 to 1 kill advantage. Not bad for late-October 1942.

Now the Allies are going to swing back and so we shift ALL the Tony to Mandalay and set them on LR CAP--Range 0. Any Allied counterattack should meet up with 100 Tonys. That might be bloodily fun to watch...

Taking advantage of the dogfighting overhead, a Japanese raid of 24 Zero and 67 Bombers hit the ALLIED troops for 250+ Cas. This is the first Japanese attack on Allied troops in nearly two months.

The combination of heavy Allied planes losses and a Japanese aerial ground attack greatly heartens the Japanese troops who launch a major counterattack of their own and manage to get a 4-1 ground assault on the 2nd UK Infantry Division, Carabeeners Tk Brigade, and an Artillery Regiment driving them back onto the rainforrest trails to the north.

Japanese bombers shift their attention 60 miles to the east where a lone Japanese Infantry Division has been holding off no less then seven Allied ground units. The 3 Inf Div, 2 Inf Brig, and 2 Artillery Regiments victoriously wheel to the east and advance towards these troops with high hopes of driving THESE troops back into Myitkyina...

A few days should tell for the results...

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RE: Surprise! - 11/23/2007 8:20:41 AM

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Great to see you plan work in Burma!

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