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RE: Mr Haruna, meet Mr. Beaufort - 7/17/2007 6:05:12 PM   
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Status: offline 		Wow, Cap!  Perth is shaping up to be the "Guadalcanal" of WW2b!  Both sides at the end of a long logistics train, seemingly willing to throw everything they've got to take this particular piece of ground. 

Nice job defending the Perth airfields; reimniscent of the Cactus Air Force itself.  

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RE: Mr Haruna, meet Mr. Beaufort - 7/17/2007 7:57:29 PM   
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Wow, Cap! Perth is shaping up to be the "Guadalcanal" of WW2b! Both sides at the end of a long logistics train, seemingly willing to throw everything they've got to take this particular piece of ground.

Nice job defending the Perth airfields; reimniscent of the Cactus Air Force itself.


Thanks. I won't be surprised if he calls it off and just tries to get some of his guys out. The airfield is undamaged, and Perth is heavily fortified. Supply is adequate (for now). Yamato and Kirishima have to go all the way back to Java or Timor for ammo. The Japs are flying LRCAP from hundreds of miles away. That has to be wearing out his Zero Daitias. The weakest link for the Allies are the fighters. No fighters except Brewsters can fly in from Australian land bases so any losses will have to made up by rookie pilots. I am able to rotate out worn out B-25 and Hudson groups and soem B-17's are staging in Alice Springs.




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Map Orderly, First Class - 7/17/2007 11:50:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		***********Aboard Kaga, 520 mi. WNW Perth, 20:25, August 24, 1942************

Ensign Hata looks furiously through the files in Kaga's map room. Map section 117/42-S is nowhere to be found. His alarm grows by the second. This was his assigned duty. The shame will be unbearable. Section 118 is accounted for, all of them, but nothing to the West. A Nixonian crescent of sweat collects on his upper lip, which is no small accomplishment for he has never heard of anyone named Nixon. His mother will never leave the their small house in Nagoya due to shame! His father! Oh, it is too much to bear.

A voice comes over speaker, "Hurry up Hata! What is the matter? We are almost at the map boundary!" This does no good, of course. It merely adds to the stress he is no longer capable of bearing. Oblivious to his predicament, Kaga steams Westward at 28 kts to escape a possible submarine contact. She bears down on a dense fog. Just as well. It should provide protection from submarine attack.

At last! Section 117/42-S! He nearly destroys the file opening it. There is a paper placed curiously on top. It reads, "This map on loan to borrower below: For replacement maps please contact M & M Enterprises Cartography Section, c/o Capt. Ito, I-125, Japanese language distributor (Southern Hemisphere)". It is signed in English script, "J. Somerville". Ensign Hata makes a groaning sound. He imagines himself reassigned to guard duty at the coal mines of Formosa. Wait! There is something else. A map! 117/42-S! He opens it and scarcely breathes. Something is amiss. It's in English. There is way to much coastline. He opens a fold and says out loud, "CREVERAND"????


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RE: Map Orderly, First Class - 7/17/2007 11:56:44 PM   
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Ah, good to see the same old zaniness still going strong...

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RE: Map Orderly, First Class - 7/18/2007 12:08:33 AM   
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RE: Map Orderly, First Class - 7/18/2007 12:16:19 AM   
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RE: Map Orderly, First Class - 7/19/2007 5:58:07 PM   
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And now we will see the Time Patrol coming to close the black hole that destroyed KB, or something like that ?
The man is absolutely prescient..well..sort of. It is more of an astral projection thing than time travel.


**********Wheelhouse, SS William A. Irvin, Great Lakes Ore Carrier, Lake Erie, 12 nm NW Cleveland, 10:46, August 25, 1942(b)**********

Captain Lightfoot looks ahead for trouble. There is none. He allows himself to daydream a bit. He imagines his ore carrier is a Mahan class destroyer, smashing through 20 foot swells in the Pacific, headed to her destiny in battle. In fact, the William A. Irvin is in no danger of being confused with a destroyer. She has no ability to stir the soul. She looks more like a tug which has been sawn in half and had a few barges welded in her midsection. She is fully laden with iron ore from Duluth and is bound for Cleveland at 8 kts. so that Mr. Ford can make tanks. By all rights, Capt. Lightfoot should have been a destroyer captain, but he was unable to pass the medical exam. He adjusts his position on a pneumatic cushion with a hole in the middle like a donut. "Hmmm, damn hemorrhoids, why me?", he thinks.

His reverie is interrupted by a dense fog which seems to boil out of nowhere about 800 yds ahead. To his astonishment, the bow of a warship pierces the fog. "She must be making over 25 kts", he says outloud. She is huge. "Holy Mother of Jesus! It is an aircraft carrier on Lake Erie!" He begin to alter course to starboard and sounds his horn. "How the Hell did that get here? I will report the SOB, endangering commercial traffic like this!" The vessel looks unfamiliar. "British perhaps? Canadian? Do the Canadians have aircraft carriers?", he thinks.

An electrical sensation courses through his body. It is unlike anything he has experienced since his wedding night 25 years before. As the superstructure of the approaching vessel emerges from the fog, he can clearly see a Japanese battle ensign! The ship's Mexican cook enters the wheelhouse with a cup of coffee and an egg sandwich. The Captain looks at him wild-eyed. "BATTLE STATIONS! BATTLE STATIONS, JOSE!"


Editor's note: It is generally bad form to change verb tense 5 or 6 times in one paragraph, but we have other things to do instead of spending all day ediiting.

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RE: Map Orderly, First Class - 7/19/2007 6:46:05 PM   
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RE: Map Orderly, First Class - 7/19/2007 6:54:04 PM   
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RE: Map Orderly, First Class - 7/19/2007 6:54:47 PM   
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Hey, Great Lakes ore carriers were magnificent vessels (okay they were huge).



Capt Lightfoot should be commanding the Edmund Fitzgerald I!!

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RE: Map Orderly, First Class - 7/19/2007 7:07:57 PM   
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Hey, Great Lakes ore carriers were magnificent vessels (okay they were huge).



Capt Lightfoot should be commanding the Edmund Fitzgerald I!!


Would that be Capt. G Lightfoot?

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RE: Map Orderly, First Class - 7/19/2007 7:09:37 PM   
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Hey, Great Lakes ore carriers were magnificent vessels (okay they were huge).



Capt Lightfoot should be commanding the Edmund Fitzgerald I!!


Would that be Capt. G Lightfoot?


G. Lightfoot Sr..

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Capt. Lightfoot - 7/19/2007 9:41:18 PM   
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BTW...the part about Capt. Lightfoot and Ensign Hata..I sorta made that up.

What really happened is 4-6 Jap carriers got too close to the War in the Pacific Eastern Indian Ocean Data Wormhole and diasappeared (one CVL or something ended up back in port on Honshu but the rest completely disappeared). For the defenders of Perth this was ascribed to a "divine wind" but the Japs asked for a "do-over". The Anglophones reluctantly agreed and we had to go back two turns. This is a good example of why it is important to save files before you hit "end turn". Has anyone else experienced the War in the Pacific Eastern Indian Ocean Data Wormhole bug?

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RE: Capt. Lightfoot - 7/19/2007 10:03:33 PM   
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RE: Capt. Lightfoot - 7/19/2007 10:11:57 PM   
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The Edmund Fitzgerald wasn't built until 1958

BTW...the part about Capt. Lightfoot and Ensign Hata..I sorta made that up.

What really happened is 4-6 Jap carriers got too close to the War in the Pacific Eastern Indian Ocean Data Wormhole and diasappeared (one CVL or something ended up back in port on Honshu but the rest completely disappeared). For the defenders of Perth this was ascribed to a "divine wind" but the Japs asked for a "do-over". The Anglophones reluctantly agreed and we had to go back two turns. This is a good example of why it is important to save files before you hit "end turn". Has anyone else experienced the War in the Pacific Eastern Indian Ocean Data Wormhole bug?


Edmund Fitzgerald I was built before 1958 in WWII(b), iirc...

There is a thread on the main forum talking about the problem... i had a supply convoy sail off the "edge of the world" (trying to avoid a sub), but i also had a backup turn, and it reappeared in a "do over"...

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RE: Capt. Lightfoot - 7/19/2007 10:49:17 PM   
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The Edmund Fitzgerald wasn't built until 1958

BTW...the part about Capt. Lightfoot and Ensign Hata..I sorta made that up.

What really happened is 4-6 Jap carriers got too close to the War in the Pacific Eastern Indian Ocean Data Wormhole and diasappeared (one CVL or something ended up back in port on Honshu but the rest completely disappeared). For the defenders of Perth this was ascribed to a "divine wind" but the Japs asked for a "do-over". The Anglophones reluctantly agreed and we had to go back two turns. This is a good example of why it is important to save files before you hit "end turn". Has anyone else experienced the War in the Pacific Eastern Indian Ocean Data Wormhole bug?


I saw that with an Allied convoy of 100 ships jumping out of the edge of the world while being chased by a Japanese BB.

For now my opponent and I have a home rule that the last row of hexes W and S are simulating the rest of the world. Any TF can't be attacked (no sub, no surface TF, no air attack) but on the other hand should follow the border up to the SW corner of the map before sailing to any Australian port.

Cap, there was this old film (olf for me, of the 80s probably) where the USS Nimitz fell in a time warp and arrived off PH just before the Japanese attack... I can't remember how it ended, just that the Zero bonus didn't help much against F-14 Tomcat...

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RE: Capt. Lightfoot - 7/19/2007 11:01:31 PM   
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RE: Capt. Lightfoot - 7/19/2007 11:06:52 PM   
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The Edmund Fitzgerald wasn't built until 1958

BTW...the part about Capt. Lightfoot and Ensign Hata..I sorta made that up.

What really happened is 4-6 Jap carriers got too close to the War in the Pacific Eastern Indian Ocean Data Wormhole and diasappeared (one CVL or something ended up back in port on Honshu but the rest completely disappeared). For the defenders of Perth this was ascribed to a "divine wind" but the Japs asked for a "do-over". The Anglophones reluctantly agreed and we had to go back two turns. This is a good example of why it is important to save files before you hit "end turn". Has anyone else experienced the War in the Pacific Eastern Indian Ocean Data Wormhole bug?


I saw that with an Allied convoy of 100 ships jumping out of the edge of the world while being chased by a Japanese BB.

For now my opponent and I have a home rule that the last row of hexes W and S are simulating the rest of the world. Any TF can't be attacked (no sub, no surface TF, no air attack) but on the other hand should follow the border up to the SW corner of the map before sailing to any Australian port.

Cap, there was this old film (olf for me, of the 80s probably) where the USS Nimitz fell in a time warp and arrived off PH just before the Japanese attack... I can't remember how it ended, just that the Zero bonus didn't help much against F-14 Tomcat...


They came within an inch of attacking the Kido Butai with the Nimitz air wing, but stopped short at the last moment.

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RE: Capt. Lightfoot - 7/19/2007 11:21:19 PM   
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RE: Capt. Lightfoot - 7/19/2007 11:23:34 PM   
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The steaming pile of the script held them back.


Well, they didn't make many good films in the 1980's...

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RE: Capt. Lightfoot - 7/19/2007 11:26:26 PM   
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RE: Capt. Lightfoot - 7/19/2007 11:32:55 PM   
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Mirth at Perth - 7/20/2007 5:56:37 AM   
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RE: Mirth at Perth - 7/20/2007 11:45:52 PM   
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RE: Mirth at Perth - 7/21/2007 6:58:55 PM   
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What's your assessment of the situation at Perth? Can the Allies win this?


Yes, quite possibly they can, but I do not know how it will come out. Either the Allies will lose 40,000 troops at Perth and a bunch of aircraft or the Japs will lose 100,000+.

If the Jap 35th Brigade holding the back door falters and the 1st Div and two fresh brigades reach Perth then it is all over for the Japs. If they have failed to bring enough offensive punch and cannot take Perth by assault, then they will fail as the carriers cannot remain on station forever and, once they leave, Perth can be resupplied by sea. The airfield is untouched and there is ample supply. Once the bombers begin concentrating on the Jap land forces they will be disrupted fairly quickly. I would give the nod to the Allies, but, of course, I would

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RE: Mirth at Perth - 7/21/2007 7:27:26 PM   
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RE: Mirth at Perth - 7/21/2007 7:57:55 PM   
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RE: Mirth at Perth - 7/21/2007 8:13:06 PM   
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Abreviated AAR for Allied Air Forces, Perth, 8-27-42

Total antishipping sorties: 138
CAP sorties: 36
Patrol: 32

Losses: RAAF...1 x Kittyhawk, 3 x Beaufort, 1 x Hudson

Enemy: 6 x Zero

10 x AP or AK claimed sunk or heavily damaged, 4 x moderate

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RE: Mirth at Perth - 7/21/2007 9:11:56 PM   
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You gotta love the Beauforts


Entering within 4 hexes of a size 4AF or bigger with ships without Air Superiority is a risky proposition.
They are one of my favorite planes and I usually convert those 8 plane squadrons of Hudson's to these "nasty" guys.

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RE: Mirth at Perth - 7/22/2007 8:14:35 PM   
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This map shows a couple of ships sinking - did Aoba and Suzuya sink? Or was it other ships??

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