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RE: TF1 where are you! - 9/7/2006 6:30:18 PM

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Do you know where this ship is?

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RE: TF1 where are you! - 9/7/2006 7:06:45 PM

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On top of a gaming board by the looks of it.

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RE: TF1 where are you! - 9/7/2006 7:14:58 PM

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On top of a gaming board by the looks of it.

Okay I have a better one.

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RE: TF1 where are you! - 9/7/2006 7:16:47 PM

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No idea.

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RE: Gutted pilot exp levels - 9/7/2006 7:54:14 PM

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FYI, Pedro lost another base in Aussie Land to the IJA.� The base just northwest of Alice Springs.

The turn should be in your in box Ron.� I did it this morning bright and early.� So far the games is progressing better than our first encounter.� I will have a few surprises for you in this game I think.� There really has not been much A2A except in China with the AVG lending a hand to the Chinese.

I noticed the base supply change you made is working.� One base had 0 supplies last turn and I noticed this turn it had 5 on hand.

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There really has not been much A2A except in China with the AVG lending a hand to the Chinese.

The AVG is basically the only thing that stands in the way of complete Jap air superiority in China. The CAF is just too pathetic pilot and equipment wise now. Training is the order of the day for the CAF fighter pilots.

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RE: Gutted pilot exp levels - 9/7/2006 9:23:58 PM

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Day Air attack on Hengchow , at 44,37

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 11
Ki-21-II Sally x 13

Allied aircraft
P-40B/C Tomahawk x 11

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-27 Nate: 3 destroyed, 1 damaged
Ki-21-II Sally: 1 destroyed, 6 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-40B/C Tomahawk: 4 damaged

Runway hits 1

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RE: Gutted pilot exp levels - 9/7/2006 9:51:32 PM

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RE: Gutted pilot exp levels - 9/9/2006 5:25:11 AM

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Here are a few of the groups stationed on the carriers. Akagi and Kaga

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RE: Gutted pilot exp levels - 9/9/2006 5:25:13 AM

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Soryu and Hiryu As you can see the expereince of the replacement pilots is well below 50.

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RE: Gutted pilot exp levels - 9/10/2006 4:19:40 PM

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How is this version working out?

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RE: Gutted pilot exp levels - 9/10/2006 5:21:48 PM

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So far it is working out very good. There has not been many real A2A fights with big formations but was A2A we have seen is not that bloody. You may get few pilots getting shot down but not like 20 I have seen in some games.

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RE: TF1 where are you! - 9/10/2006 5:23:47 PM

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On top of a gaming board by the looks of it.

Okay I have a better one.

Akagi and/or Kaga heading towards PH.

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RE: TF1 where are you! - 9/10/2006 5:33:04 PM

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You know your carriers.

So far after Pearl Harbor Ron has not seen the big fleet carriers. Do you know where they are Ron?

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RE: TF1 where are you! - 9/10/2006 10:13:25 PM

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You know your carriers.

So far after Pearl Harbor Ron has not seen the big fleet carriers. Do you know where they are Ron?

No, but what is new?

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RE: TF1 where are you! - 9/11/2006 8:28:40 PM

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Sorry for the delay in the action Ron. I hope to be back up and on-line in a few days.

What did you think of the pilots experience?

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RE: TF1 where are you! - 9/12/2006 4:55:29 PM

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I think the pilot experince level for the Japanese are too low for the new ones. They look like the ones you get for the Dutch after you go through their monthly allotment of 4.

If this is the way it is going to be, then a few Japanese CV's will need to take a training cruise over lightly defended bases to get thier experience up to around 50, before they go into "Harms Way."

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RE: TF1 where are you! - 9/12/2006 5:01:54 PM

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I think the pilot experince level for the Japanese are too low for the new ones. They look like the ones you get for the Dutch after you go through their monthly allotment of 4.
If this is the way it is going to be, then a few Japanese CV's will need to take a training cruise over lightly defended bases to get thier experience up to around 50, before they go into "Harms Way."

So you saw the experience of the replacement pilots I am getting. We are still in the testing of the modifications Ron has made. It will put a different spin on how often carriers show up to fight I would have to guess.

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RE: TF1 where are you! - 9/12/2006 5:05:56 PM

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I think the pilot experince level for the Japanese are too low for the new ones. They look like the ones you get for the Dutch after you go through their monthly allotment of 4.
If this is the way it is going to be, then a few Japanese CV's will need to take a training cruise over lightly defended bases to get thier experience up to around 50, before they go into "Harms Way."

But this was the point in making the experience drop. I can't believe that the average pilot is in the 70s. I'm thinking this should be in the high 20s, low 30s. And, carriers historically took alot of time working up their airgroups, something completely redundant in the stock game as experience levels are too frigging high IMO.

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RE: TF1 where are you! - 9/12/2006 6:10:31 PM

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I would think that the experience levels being between 30 to 35 would be good.
I wonder how many of those in the "Teens" will survive their first carrier landing??

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RE: TF1 where are you! - 9/12/2006 6:36:55 PM

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RE: TF1 where are you! - 9/13/2006 7:35:33 PM

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RE: TF1 where are you! - 9/13/2006 8:02:43 PM

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RE: TF1 where are you! - 9/13/2006 8:35:56 PM

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RE: TF1 where are you! - 9/15/2006 10:44:38 PM

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I just ordered two copies of this game from Decision Games. One is to play and the other is to keep unpunched. I have 2 copies of the SPI version of this game.

http://www.decisiongames.com/html/war_in_the_pacific.html

War in the Pacific board game.

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RE: TF1 where are you! - 9/15/2006 11:51:48 PM

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That's the big puppy is it not?

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RE: TF1 where are you! - 9/16/2006 2:28:49 AM

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If you put in the link it should take you to the page for the game. Yes it is a biggy 7 Maps and 9000 counters.

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RE: TF1 where are you! - 9/17/2006 5:57:53 PM

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Night Time Surface Combat at 34,71

Japanese Ships
MSW Wa 10, Shell hits 8, and is sunk
MSW Wa 14, Shell hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
MSW Wa 19
MSW Tomozono Maru #3
AP Hie Maru
AP Hakone Maru
AP Tango Maru
AP Horai Maru
AP Astuga Maru
AP Chinko Maru
AP Eiko Maru
AP Gyoko Maru
AP Heiwa Maru
AP Igasa Maru

Allied Ships
CA Exeter
CL Java
CL De Ruyter
CL Tromp
DD Electra
DD Banckert
DD Van Nes
DD Witte de With
DD Evertsen
DD Kortenaer
DD Piet Hein

This is the battle I bitched about off Kendari...what nonsense. It is nonsense because the combat model is ass backwards. 80% of the ships in these two TFs were not "spotted", "fired upon" or "engaged". While this may seem real to some, the lack of any pursuit model is woefully felt. Yet there is one for armoured units!!!

What really reveals the weakness of the design is the inability of a TF to detect, engage or be engaged by all the ships in the TFs brought to battle (they are in close proximity to both friendly and enemy ships in a small portion of a sixty mile hex)BUT a single TF will catch every seperate TF within a sixty mile hex without fail. This is the frustrating part, the complete lack of any consistency or sensibility.

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RE: TF1 where are you! - 9/17/2006 6:28:44 PM

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Some examples of the A2A occuring over Changsha, China. Too early to judge but the A2A seems less bloody with the few changes to this mod.

Day Air attack on Changsha , at 45,37

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 21
Ki-51 Sonia x 8

Allied aircraft
P-40B/C Tomahawk x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-27 Nate: 3 destroyed
Ki-51 Sonia: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-40B/C Tomahawk: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x Ki-51 Sonia bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Changsha , at 45,37

Japanese aircraft
Ki-27 Nate x 13
Ki-21-II Sally x 9

Allied aircraft
P-40B/C Tomahawk x 10

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
P-40B/C Tomahawk: 3 damaged

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Ki-21-II Sally bombing at 15000 feet

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RE: TF1 where are you! - 9/17/2006 6:32:08 PM

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I just ordered two copies of this game from Decision Games. One is to play and the other is to keep unpunched. I have 2 copies of the SPI version of this game.

http://www.decisiongames.com/html/war_in_the_pacific.html

War in the Pacific board game.

You've got too much money...

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RE: TF1 where are you! - 9/17/2006 6:41:19 PM

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