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RE: RHS pwhex 6.638 (major revision) in progress - 2/20/2007 12:14:01 AM   
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UPDATE:
Japanese agression via a bombing raid against the Soviets on 122541..The bombers were escorted by fighters, and all were intercepted by some Lagg 3's and I 16's..

RHS/CVO,latest test version to date



This was AI type Soviets?

AI of course has the power to change fighters from training to ops. Humans won't.

Remember - NO version of WITP works with AI as ALLIES and so RHS makes NO attempt to address that.
ONLY AI as Japan works reasonably close to well - and nothing I can do will change that - it is a code thing.
If HUMANS are doing this - go to war.

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RE: RHS pwhex 6.638 (major revision) in progress - 2/20/2007 12:19:36 AM   
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RE: RHS pwhex 5.641 and 6.631 data files uploaded - 2/21/2007 4:11:58 AM   
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Status: offline 		I have converted a Level 5 pwhex file set - and it is uploaded. Cobra is working on the corresponding Level 5 map art.

I found a few eratta - and thought of a couple of enhancements - so it is 5.641 instead of 5.640 level.

Level 6 pwhex set ALSO updated to 6.641 standard and uploaded.

I do not play to revisit either Level 5 or Level 6 pwhex files unless a problem is detected.

EDIT: Don't forget - you can backfit pwhex to ANY game in progress - and should. These new ones tell the truth - they sync with map art - better than ever we have had before. That will help you plan operations better. They also will make the AI run the economy better.

Level 5.631 comprehensive data files uploaded. We have not released Level 5 for some time - lacking a pwhex file -
These are slightly better than 6.630 standard - so we call them 6.631. I may upload 6.631 to bring it in line. Neither is quite at x.64 level - the freeze point - both are very close. Need to add some Russian gunboats, a few guerillas, some river transports, and convert Allied PT boats - stuff like that.

Freeze may occur tomorrow - otherwise two days. During that time I expect Level 5 map art - and ship art - to upload.

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RE: RHS integrated 6.642 integrated comprehensive updat... - 2/22/2007 2:42:39 AM   
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Status: offline 		Nothing glamorous going on - just eratta punching. To avoid confusion - to make it clear that this data set goes with that pwhex set - I will release everything together - as 6.642 (and 5.642).

These releases are NOT frozen finals (although pwhex may be eratta free and won't change if it is; some files - device, pilot, leader in particular, are frozen already).

6.65 (and 5.65) will be the frozen release form. At least one day out.

I am adding

a) US LSTs (many still to add)
b) The Viet Ming as a whole (don't hold your breath - not very big)
c) 5e REI (French Foreign Legion) at Viet Tri near Hanoi - at start for Russian active scenarios - March 5 1945 in Russian passive scenarios (when it was forced into action IRL in that very hex) - with a safety - if Japan captures Viet Tri in the passive scenarios it will appear in China instead
d) River transports on the Irrawaddy
e) the Korean Anti-Japanese 1st Battalion under the leadership of one obscure Maj Kim Il Sung, Soviet Army - a Chinese unit under Soviet Command appearing at Vladivostok in 1943 - with orders to invade Korea
f) A host of traditional shipping units along coasts and rivers in Japanese service

working on the Soviet Amur Flotilla and converting Allied PT boats to the new standard (which will free slots again and/or permit adding more PT boats or river vessels)

A good deal of eratta incorporated - but I have not exhausted the lists yet. Not much is very significant - but it all helps things get "right."

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RE: RHS integrated 6.642 integrated comprehensive updat... - 2/22/2007 11:09:34 AM   
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(Currently, one has finally been preserved/restored there, in WWII condition.)

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RE: RHS integrated 6.642 integrated comprehensive updat... - 2/23/2007 3:34:35 AM   
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Status: offline 		6.642 data files uploaded

6.642 pwhex files next

then Level 5 data and pwhex files


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RE: RHS integrated 6.642 integrated comprehensive updat... - 2/23/2007 10:07:36 AM   
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Status: offline 		Class 1668, 1669: SN Uragan CGC - name incorrect as these were NOT coast guard vessels - they were navy vessels.

Ship 9829: SN Meitiel - a typo in its name: Mietiel


CVO 6.642

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RE: RHS integrated 5.642 comprehensive update (6.642 al... - 2/23/2007 11:35:53 AM   
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Status: offline 		The Level 5 data files = to the Level 6 files uploaded about six hours ago are now also released. I will release a Level 5 pwhex file set in about half an hour. These pwhex sets are very similar to previous offerings and differ in only three respects:

a) Three cases of mismatched hexsided are corrected;

b) Misrouted (but little used) US rail lines now match map art;

c) Areas in China and Manchuria that are densely populated are now fitted with trails toward all neighboring hexes with communications lines.

All of these represent minor technical corrections - in a quest for technical perfection. This may be the final version of the pwhex files for both levels.

Testing indicates that the hexes with "invisible" trails (or sometimes roads) in all meaningful directions - representing suburban areas - are a boon for guerillas and raiders. It makes getting supplies much harder to block and retreat much less easily predicted. We have now added the Viet Minh and the Korean Anti-Japanese Resistence Army (under one major Kim Il Sung, an obscure person of whom much will be heard of later) and we may add some of the other Anti-Japanese formations in Manchuria at least. There were already a large number of Chinese guerilla formations - and these have worked out very well indeed. Helping them with phex is yet another step in the direction of making it hard for Japan to "pacify" vast areas. All such units are rated as "Chinese" - although the Koreans report to the Soviet HQ - so (a) they will regenerate quickly if destroyed and (b) if their appearence hex is absent they will appear in China which isn't too far from where they want to be anyway.

Testing also indicates that the new pwhex files are helping the micro economy of China work better. The assignment of areas of Northern Indochina and Thailand as Allied (actually as ROC) controlled also reduces local Japanese supply in SE Asia - and they have to commit troops to gain those areas - which troops are not doing something else meanwhile. This combines with the Viet Minh and the French Foreign Legion (except in CVO and RPO) to give China a bit more "insulation" from attacks from the South - they will occur later if they occur at all. However, the connected rail/road lines in China is a two edged sword - and it may mean Chunking and Kunming are more approachable than ever before to a properly organized combined arms offensive. If you take the right locations, they will now be supplied and be able to support further advances. Theoretically the interior river systems offer an alternative way to go deep into China. Surprisingly, tests indicate that AI - at least - has the Chinese winning control of these interior river systems and never relenquishing it. Japan is unable to retain control of its foothold on the Upper Yangtze in any AI vs AI game, nor does it ever expand its foothold on the Yellow River. But human players may be better able to exploit these river avenues.

Testing indicates AI occasionally uses river transports. When it does, it often issues seemingly impossible orders - but if you look at convoys at sea you see equally strange things - and they do usually end up doing something logical anyway. I am pleased to see this - for I feared it might ignore these units and new "ultra narrow sea" locations.

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RE: RHS integrated 6.642 integrated comprehensive updat... - 2/23/2007 11:44:34 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Monter_Trismegistos

Class 1668, 1669: SN Uragan CGC - name incorrect as these were NOT coast guard vessels - they were navy vessels.

REPLY: Are you sure? I have them listed as in the service of the "Border Patrol" - and someone posted they were similar in concept to coast guard cutters. IF you are sure - I will correct them.

Ship 9829: SN Meitiel - a typo in its name: Mietiel

REPLY: Corrected for 6.643 or 6.65 - whichever is next.

CVO 6.642


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RE: RHS integrated 6.642 integrated comprehensive updat... - 2/23/2007 12:39:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		The Level 5.642 base pwhex.dat file has failed a validation test.

I will sleep for a few hours and try again to convert this file from 5.641.
[Never trust any program more than 10 lines long without testing]

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RE: RHS integrated 6.642 integrated comprehensive updat... - 2/23/2007 4:53:57 PM   
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REPLY: Are you sure? I have them listed as in the service of the "Border Patrol" - and someone
It was me.
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posted they were similar in concept to coast guard cutters. IF you are sure - I will correct them.

Similliar. I mentioned coast guard at all only because US therminology is lacking the term for these and many simmiliar ships of other navies. I did not at any point stated that they were belonging to Coast Guard.


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RE: RHS 5.642 pwhex correction set (and all x.642 files... - 2/24/2007 1:44:30 AM   
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Status: offline 		I have recreated a Level 5 pwhex file set that corresponds to the latest Level 6 set. I discovered problems in
previous versions of pwhex files as uploaded since x.641 and have uploaded both Levels at x.642 status in tested form. WITPExcel - the tool I use - is fragile and often "breaks" a file when "putting" it.

We now have completely uploaded all data files at x.642 level and tested (in the form uploaded) x.642 pwhex files.

I do not expect any changes to either pwhex set as we proceed - and I will create Level 7 pwhex to this standard.
I also plan to attempt to create a Monsoon pwhex - and if it works we can introduce the Monsoon/Summer seasonal map art (already done). When Winter is done I will attempt to do a pwhex for that. These files should slow down land combat operations in some areas significantly in the "bad" seasons (whatever that means locally). But we lack the ability to affect weather at sea.

Meanwhile I will proceed to work in the remaining eratta for Levels 5 and 6 - and to work in small craft. We are at least a day away from "freezing" - and the freeze level will be called x.650 - but we will use the x.642 pwhex files with it. There may be no more pwhex eratta and I plan no more pwhex enhancements (other than seasonal variations).

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RE: RHS integrated 6.642 integrated comprehensive updat... - 2/24/2007 1:14:19 PM   
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REPLY: Are you sure? I have them listed as in the service of the "Border Patrol" - and someone
It was me.
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posted they were similar in concept to coast guard cutters. IF you are sure - I will correct them.

Similliar. I mentioned coast guard at all only because US therminology is lacking the term for these and many simmiliar ships of other navies. I did not at any point stated that they were belonging to Coast Guard.




OK - I found it. Conways lists the service of these ships as "the NKVD Far East Coast Guard." That surely sounds like USCG to me. I will, however, not list these vessels as coast guard cutters - which isn't quite right architecturally.
I will instead describe their service as SFECG (Soviet Far East Coast Guard). I will also introduce SMM (Soviet Merchant Marine) as a service category.

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RE: RHS integrated 6.642 integrated comprehensive updat... - 2/24/2007 3:40:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		Question:
Sid, If you make minor corrections to the OOB's themselves,(like the range of a plane, or type of a ship,etc)., the change will not show up in an existing game, will it?
I.E.:If I want to see the changes, I must start a new campaign...correct?

BTW, very much like the way everything is working,(CVO Allied vs AI).
Vast OOB additions, supply considerations/dumps,"sinks",etc., land movement/obstacles.

Cobra's artwork is astounding, (as ever), and his maps just continue to be both eye candy and utilitarian.

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RE: RHS integrated 6.642 integrated comprehensive updat... - 2/24/2007 8:02:50 PM   
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Pwhex v6.642.   Just found that  Dunedin (NZ) located in middle of ocean at hex 43 142 instead of hex 53 146 

DavidR

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RE: RHS integrated 6.642 integrated comprehensive updat... - 2/24/2007 8:48:42 PM   
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Status: offline 		Sources like Janes and Conways are made for masses - so they can be wrong. Especially when it comes to forces of enemy nations and without acces to their sources.

I have an article of Russian historian Sergey Klimovskiy from Polish periodic: "Morza Statki i Okręty" [Seas: Ships and Warships] 2/2003 (part 1) & 3/2003 (part 2). The article is generally about mobilisation of Soviet ASW forces, and their actions during September 1939 - so long before full war mobilisation. It shows OoB for "Protection of Baltic Fleet Water Region" force - which was navy unit responsible for keeping Soviet bases free from mines and submarines. One of it's component was "Guarding Ships Division" which consisted of Uragan vessels. There is not a single word about NKVD. I believe Conway is wrong.

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RE: RHS integrated 6.642 integrated comprehensive updat... - 2/24/2007 8:50:49 PM   
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Status: offline 		Next thing: Sid, have you thought about adding small repair shipyard (size 1) to a single base in each river system? I think shipyard is needed to repair damaged devices of ships.

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RE: RHS integrated 6.642 integrated comprehensive updat... - 2/24/2007 9:18:04 PM   
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Pwhex v6.642. Just found that Dunedin (NZ) located in middle of ocean at hex 43 142 instead of hex 53 146

yep same here

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RE: RHS integrated 6.642 integrated comprehensive updat... - 2/24/2007 9:20:27 PM   
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Next thing: Sid, have you thought about adding small repair shipyard (size 1) to a single base in each river system? I think shipyard is needed to repair damaged devices of ships.

same thinking - if river water ways are isolated we will need some shipyards

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RE: RHS 5.642 pwhex correction set (and all x.642 files... - 2/24/2007 11:01:00 PM   
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Status: offline 		In RHSCVO Scen 50 5.642, 471 - South Atlantic Entry Base (62,148) is on the map.

I thought that was just in 6.x. I believe I have the lastest pwhex installed.





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RE: RHS integrated 6.642 integrated comprehensive updat... - 2/25/2007 12:42:44 AM   
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ORIGINAL: m10bob

Question:
Sid, If you make minor corrections to the OOB's themselves,(like the range of a plane, or type of a ship,etc)., the change will not show up in an existing game, will it?
I.E.:If I want to see the changes, I must start a new campaign...correct?

REPLY: Basically correct. The only exception is if changes were made to a save game file. To make such changes on a vast scale would not be worth the effort - and if you lack the ability to edit that file impossible.

BTW, very much like the way everything is working,(CVO Allied vs AI).
Vast OOB additions, supply considerations/dumps,"sinks",etc., land movement/obstacles.

Cobra's artwork is astounding, (as ever), and his maps just continue to be both eye candy and utilitarian.


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RE: RHS integrated 6.642 integrated comprehensive updat... - 2/25/2007 12:44:18 AM   
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Sid,

Pwhex v6.642.   Just found that  Dunedin (NZ) located in middle of ocean at hex 43 142 instead of hex 53 146 

DavidR


That is corrected in the "validated" (i.e. second) upload of 6.642. I found it too. If you are not getting this with a fresh download send your address to trevethans@aol.com.

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RE: RHS integrated 6.642 integrated comprehensive updat... - 2/25/2007 12:53:37 AM   
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Sources like Janes and Conways are made for masses - so they can be wrong. Especially when it comes to forces of enemy nations and without acces to their sources.

REPLY: Originally Captain Fred T. Jane did his work for naval gamers - the sort who "push lead" (referring to models made of lead - once 1:1200 scale and now 1:2400 scale). Eventually Jane's grew up and became much more of a reference for professionals of the naval and intelligence (and scholarly) sort. You can put a great deal more stock in Jane's today than long ago - and you will pay a small fortune to get a copy too! Jane's has gone on to become a significant specalized publisher. Conways appears to be a later effort - done by a specialized "Maritime Press" company - beginning about 1980. It is a serious attempt to get things write, but for cost reasons is limited to significant warships. Often Conway's - done far later than early Jane's - is far more reliable - but for current stuff Jane's is better. Both are very serious and scholarly sources and I won't denegrate either (and, indeed, the Jane's resident in Taipei uses me as a source on PLAN). However, as a detail student of PLAN (and before that IJN) I am aware of errors in both. It is impossible to get this stuff completely right - and professionals are much more restrained by budgets than dedicated amateurs are in terms of the time they can spend getting it right. A Boeing Vice President once advised me not to accept leadership of a think tank because "when you are not associated with a budget your work gets more respect." I sincerely doubt Conway is incorrect when it is specific with a term like NKVD Far East Coast Guard. That is way to specific - they were reading something.

I note for the record the use of the term "enemy" re the Soviet Navy. While this was long the case in the Cold War era, it was NOT the case during WWII!

I have an article of Russian historian Sergey Klimovskiy from Polish periodic: "Morza Statki i Okrêty" [Seas: Ships and Warships] 2/2003 (part 1) & 3/2003 (part 2). The article is generally about mobilisation of Soviet ASW forces, and their actions during September 1939 - so long before full war mobilisation. It shows OoB for "Protection of Baltic Fleet Water Region" force - which was navy unit responsible for keeping Soviet bases free from mines and submarines. One of it's component was "Guarding Ships Division" which consisted of Uragan vessels. There is not a single word about NKVD. I believe Conway is wrong.


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RE: RHS integrated 6.642 integrated comprehensive updat... - 2/25/2007 12:57:06 AM   
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Next thing: Sid, have you thought about adding small repair shipyard (size 1) to a single base in each river system? I think shipyard is needed to repair damaged devices of ships.



Actually, I have. Not that small however - it would not be effective. And I have added some - where there really were some. I should have - and failed I see - to add a significant one at Komsomolsk - which - as you know - had/has a significant shipyard. Fixed. When I added the one at Harbin I planned to add Khabarovsk. I need to look up places like Calcutta, which probably have small yards, and there is one at Wuhan already - but it needs to be "split" - I forgot that. [The Upper Yangtze ships cannot go to the Lower Yangtze for service - and Wuhan is in three hexes - on both river systems] Might be one at Chunking too. Details details - I must follow up on this.

I have been converting the Soviet Navy over to dual vessel MSW and PCs, opening slots so we can put all of them in - and probably add PT boats as well. I found 2 more "guard ships" - those "coast guard cutters" which arn't exactly that - in this case probably they are MLEs - both completing in 1945. Can you find commissioning dates for Albatros and Chaika? Had to give them 88mm AA guns (they mounted 85mm but we only have those as land devices - an interim solution - they eventually got 100mm post war).

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RE: RHS 5.642 pwhex correction set (and all x.642 files... - 2/25/2007 1:11:15 AM   
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In RHSCVO Scen 50 5.642, 471 - South Atlantic Entry Base (62,148) is on the map.

I thought that was just in 6.x. I believe I have the lastest pwhex installed.






You are right. Also in PPO it was. This slot should be Melbourne. Fixed for 5.643 - uploading about plus three hours. This is not a function of pwhex, but the location file.

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RE: RHS 5.642 pwhex correction set (and all x.642 files... - 2/25/2007 1:25:42 AM   
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In RHSCVO Scen 50 5.642, 471 - South Atlantic Entry Base (62,148) is on the map.

I thought that was just in 6.x. I believe I have the lastest pwhex installed.






You are right. Also in PPO it was. This slot should be Melbourne. Fixed for 5.643 - uploading about plus three hours. This is not a function of pwhex, but the location file. Hmmm - all Level 5 scenarios had Melbourne in the wrong slot - even if it was also in the right slot! And one - PPO - had a misplaced CD unit from Wellington. Also fixed.


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RE: RHS integrated 6.642 integrated comprehensive updat... - 2/25/2007 5:01:15 AM   
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I note for the record the use of the term "enemy" re the Soviet Navy. While this was long the case in the Cold War era, it was NOT the case during WWII!

I meant "enemy" during time after the war, when both sources probably were pinted (and even before that Soviet Union was quite isolationist which was no helpful for gathering information by civilians)

The only info I have about Albatros is that she was comissioned in 1944, and Tchaika wasn't commisioned before war ends.

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RE: RHS integrated 6.642 integrated comprehensive updat... - 2/25/2007 11:21:08 AM   
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Status: offline 		Wow. What discrepencies. A closed society - and one disrupted by revolution and invasion - is hard to get information from. I will convert the Albatross to 1944, but leve the other in for 1945 - on the assumption that some record says it was - and it might have (it is already very late - and we no doubt have left vessels out anyway).

I found Soviet materials on those big "monitors." Seems it is very much in doubt exactly what happened? Apparently all lost all their engines and guns near the end of WWI - when Revolution stalked the land. They were rearmed during the First Five Year Plan - for which I have detailed information. Also reengined - or at least 5 of them were. They do not appear to have ended up uniform. Some had single 12cm side mountings. Two had single 13 cm mountings in all four positions, but then these were replaced by 152mm mounts using turrets from the original class. I don't know if that means all four mounts or just the fore and after mounts that originally had 152mm? Apparently all got rebuilt bridges with space for a proper director and an extra 37mm AA gun - which is intrigueing since "extra" implies they already had 37mm AA - but that isn't how they were born. I am tempted to leave this alone in the form Monter reports - just for the sake of simplicity! And no where do I find a record of their deck armor - yet all the smaller monitors had 50mm deck armor - so why would ships with 4.5 inch of teck (and turret) armor not have any deck armor? Very confusing.

I am going to rework the Amur Flotilla - expanding it to include obscure vessels - since I found the naval records for their reconstruction - tonight. This is my last research project. This, eratta, and conversion of minor craft to multiple ship formats - is all that is going to happen before freezing. If we don't freeze tomorrow - we do so Monday. Get any eratta in now.

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RE: RHS integrated 6.642 integrated comprehensive updat... - 2/25/2007 4:38:45 PM   
drw61


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Status: offline 		As I was playing EOS 6.643 this morning I found that the allied micro AKs (slot 1365) are upgrading to Northampton CAs (slot 191) 

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RE: RHS integrated 6.642 integrated comprehensive updat... - 2/25/2007 11:43:56 PM   
Herrbear


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quote:

ORIGINAL: drw61

As I was playing EOS 6.643 this morning I found that the allied micro AKs (slot 1365) are upgrading to Northampton CAs (slot 191) 


It is also in CVO Scenario 60. Also, about 5 or 6 of these Allied Micro AKs ships named Indian ### have no weapons while the rest have a couple of .30 and .50. The class (1365) has 2 .50. Was it intentional that some were unarmed?

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