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Best WWII movie - 9/26/2006 9:10:33 PM   
terje439


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Status: offline 		Title says it, your favorite WWII movie. (And since there might be more like me, top 3 works to )

1. Stalingrad. Not sure why, but that movie is my preferred one.
2. Patton. It is added because they did not remove Patton slapping his GIs. A non-all-good american general in an american movie?! Unheard off
3. Tora!Tora!Tora! My by far preferred movie from the Pacific Theathre.
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RE: Best WWII movie - 9/26/2006 10:15:27 PM   
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RE: Best WWII movie - 9/27/2006 12:05:48 AM   
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For national pride's sake The Devil's Brigade (we Canadians look cool up against the US in this one :)).

But to sum up my over all fav, dang that's nearly impossible.

Longest Day or A Bridge Too Far. Both were dripping in big name actors.

Sentimental value, Midway. Only film I can recall watching at a theater with my dad.

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RE: Best WWII movie - 9/27/2006 1:00:52 AM   
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First choice would have to be "Bridge Over the River Kwai."

Personally, I think that "Schindler's List" is as good a movie as I've ever seen, and technically it qualifies for this discussion, but I have a hunch that it's not what most people have in mind when it comes to WWII movies...

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RE: Best WWII movie - 9/27/2006 2:04:52 AM   
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RE: Best WWII movie - 9/27/2006 4:20:28 AM   
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RE: Best WWII movie - 9/27/2006 12:40:04 PM   
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Note to Hollywood Don't even attempt it if your going to bugger it up!!

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RE: Best WWII movie - 9/27/2006 12:48:45 PM   
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Schindlers List
Das Boot
The Longest Day
Battle Of Britain
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RE: Best WWII movie - 9/27/2006 1:40:59 PM   
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Battle of Britain
Dambusters
Where Eagles Dare
Saving Private Ryan
Band of Brothers

Dambusters is one that I would like to see remade, but NOT in the Hollywood style. Just in colour, with modern special effects, real Lancasters and with Michael Redgrave reprising his role as Barnes Wallis.

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RE: Best WWII movie - 9/27/2006 2:27:55 PM   
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RE: Best WWII movie - 9/27/2006 2:55:23 PM   
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Dambusters is one that I would like to see remade, but NOT in the Hollywood style. Just in colour, with modern special effects, real Lancasters and with Michael Redgrave reprising his role as Barnes Wallis.


You've got to be joking right ????

see http://www.politicalgateway.com/news/read/33840

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RE: Best WWII movie - 9/27/2006 4:02:57 PM   
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RE: Best WWII movie - 9/27/2006 6:46:04 PM   
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A Bridge Too Far (how on earth could any remake improve on this one??)
Tora, Tora, Tora

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RE: Best WWII movie - 9/27/2006 6:49:49 PM   
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Midway (absent the Chuck Heston character and his whiney-bitch son)
Das Boot
Cross of Iron
Any Godzilla film (assuming that radiation from ww2 caused his birth)

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RE: Best WWII movie - 9/27/2006 6:55:22 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Hertston

Das Boot. Nuff said.


I stand corrected! Not only should this one definately be in any top list of WWII movies, I also own it. Wonder how it even slipped my mind...

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RE: Best WWII movie - 9/27/2006 7:06:01 PM   
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' Now Gen'll Longstreet i think you should go to attack Little round Top while General Early moves around the flanks to the peach orchard . Then tomorrow Gen'l Pickett can come up the centre.'
Gosh general Lee ,  if this works we will have broken the enemy and may be able to move on Washinton or at least the 1864 elections will be very tough for Lincoln' .. etc .
Far better Heston flips from codes/ciphers to carrier ops  to air command to pilot.



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RE: Best WWII movie - 9/27/2006 11:52:43 PM   
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Dambusters is one that I would like to see remade, but NOT in the Hollywood style. Just in colour, with modern special effects, real Lancasters and with Michael Redgrave reprising his role as Barnes Wallis.


You've got to be joking right ????

see http://www.politicalgateway.com/news/read/33840


I had no idea.

I've got this horrible feeling..........

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RE: Best WWII movie - 9/28/2006 12:00:27 AM   
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ORIGINAL: ezz

You need the Chuck character to let the narative flow , otherwise you end up with lots of people explaining the plot a la Gettysburg.
' Now Gen'll Longstreet i think you should go to attack Little round Top while General Early moves around the flanks to the peach orchard . Then tomorrow Gen'l Pickett can come up the centre.'
Gosh general Lee ,  if this works we will have broken the enemy and may be able to move on Washinton or at least the 1864 elections will be very tough for Lincoln' .. etc .
Far better Heston flips from codes/ciphers to carrier ops  to air command to pilot.



True, but the whiney son is still inexcusable, even as a plot device. Hal Holbrook doing some sort of Mark Twain impersonation sucked as well. Reimagining that movie with Chuck Norris is Heston's place is preferable.


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RE: Best WWII movie - 9/28/2006 10:41:09 AM   
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ORIGINAL: bradfordkay
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A Bridge Too Far (how on earth could any remake improve on this one??)
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By removing that normally fantastic actor Gene Hackman and putting someone in with a have decent Polish accent. Also, dare I say it, CGIs?

However, as I "meant" in my previous post with my note to Hollywood...they would have to keep the story pretty much untouched as it was nigh perfection in the original.

So in short, same story, CGI's and decent actors (although alot of the originals did suit the parts!)


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RE: Best WWII movie - 9/28/2006 8:25:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		I remember seeing Midway at the cinema with SENSAROUND the same vibrating effect that they used for earthquake .When the bombs hit it all shook , I was well impressed . { but I was very young}.

Of course you are right , the Pilot son was pretty lame.

At the risk of alienating the entire community doesn't anyone else think Saving  Private Ryan was a bit , well , sentimental heart tugs and  abit overdone. I could gladly watch the start , the sniper scene , and the mexican stand off scene which are trully amazing . But a lot of the rest of it ....yawn... Am I missing something { and I just saw it again last week.}


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RE: Best WWII movie - 9/28/2006 10:23:46 PM   
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RE: Best WWII movie - 9/29/2006 6:23:48 AM   
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RE: Best WWII movie - 9/29/2006 9:11:19 AM   
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ORIGINAL: JudgeDredd


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ORIGINAL: bradfordkay
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A Bridge Too Far (how on earth could any remake improve on this one??)
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By removing that normally fantastic actor Gene Hackman and putting someone in with a have decent Polish accent. Also, dare I say it, CGIs?

However, as I "meant" in my previous post with my note to Hollywood...they would have to keep the story pretty much untouched as it was nigh perfection in the original.

So in short, same story, CGI's and decent actors (although alot of the originals did suit the parts!)



I bought it the other day. Talk about star-studded but Gene Hackman's Polish accent! I thought he was taking the piss. It's just awful.

I agree that some CGI would spice up the special effects. It'd be hard to get such quality actors again though and some of the guys who were actually there and/or in command were the consultants on the original.

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RE: Best WWII movie - 9/29/2006 9:13:15 AM   
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At the risk of alienating the entire community doesn't anyone else think Saving Private Ryan was a bit , well , sentimental heart tugs and abit overdone. I could gladly watch the start , the sniper scene , and the mexican stand off scene which are trully amazing . But a lot of the rest of it ....yawn... Am I missing something { and I just saw it again last week.}


That's a fair and quite common criticism.

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RE: Best WWII movie - 9/29/2006 3:47:37 PM   
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Battle of River Plate
Ice Cold in Alex
The Longest Day
Dambusters
Angels 1 5 (Septic calling)
The Cruel Sea
Dunkirk

I am a sucker for the old B&W films

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RE: Best WWII movie - 9/30/2006 12:51:55 AM   
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I bought it the other day. Talk about star-studded but Gene Hackman's Polish accent! I thought he was taking the piss. It's just awful.

I agree that some CGI would spice up the special effects. It'd be hard to get such quality actors again though and some of the guys who were actually there and/or in command were the consultants on the original.


My copy that I bouth for $7.99 down at the 'ol Wal and Mart has a liner with the disc. It says that Lt. Col Frost and Anthony Hopkins did not get along at all during the production. Apparently, ther was a lot of bickering that went on. Also, it was not just limited to Hopkins and Frost. APparently, Sean Connery walked off the set when he found out that Robert Redford was getting paid $1mil. compared to his measly $300,000. After some negotiating during production, Connery came back for $1.2 million.

I enjoy most of the actors in this film too. I love the scene where Gen Ludwig comes up to the captured, defeated, and beaten frost. He proceeds to offer him the candy bar and tells him that the candy came from the supply drops that were intended for the British. I love the utter disgust and blank look that Hopkins portrays.

As for the quality actors, I wonder what happened when Frost left the British Army when he found out how much more Field Marshall Montgomery was making than a lowley colonel....

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RE: Best WWII movie - 9/30/2006 4:52:11 AM   
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Patton (George C. Scott's finest performance, and I must say the film influenced my life - I later enlisted in the army to become a career officer..didn't work out that way)
Tora Tora Tora (NEVER do a Re-make!)
A Bridge Too Far (excellent)
The Longest Day (excellent)
In Harms Way (forget the love stories)
In Which we Serve (An Absolute British Gem)
A Walk In The Sun (Excellent - before most of your time)
The Story Of G.I.Joe (a young Robert Mitchum, Ernie Pyle Story - among the best ever, gritty)
Battle Of Britain (1969, wonderful)
Kelly's Hero's (it is still great to watch)
The Big Red One - Re-Release 2006 (added an extra hour, and turned a B-Rated movie into a great movie)
Band Of Brothers (very good)
To Hell And Back (about, and starring - Audie Murphy)
EDIT: I have to add 'Enemy Ay The Gates' - a Great story of Rusian Nationalism and a good movie if not completely historical. The simple Russian boy - his patriotism, and the Jewish Communist who finally dies at the end are touching themes.

Last - The Best WWII Movie Made: and it's not a Hollywood Production per say -
Film legend John Houston's documentary (made in 1944) 'The Battle Of San Pietro'
It'S B&W of course, but it's all REAL - and in it's the only one to me - that conveys the true misery and sacrifice of soldiers in WWII. As a matter of fact, though it was made by the U.S. Army - it was banned by the Government until well after the war because the Army feared it was too unsettling for the public to see.




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RE: Best WWII movie - 9/30/2006 5:55:40 AM   
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The best, in my opinion, is A Bridge Too Far.  The movie is 90% accurate to the book, and the book is accurate to the events (many direct quotes and documentation from primary sources).

If some of the cut footage from the battle scenes could be found and restored along with a digital soundtrack from the guys who did Saving Private Ryan (my vote for best WWII scene on D-Day), it would be even better.

The best film in the Pacific theater is Tora, Tora, Tora, but Midway was a lot of fun in sensaround.

The best foreign films are Stalingrad and Das Boot to be sure.  Why are the best movies sort of downers at the end.  The end of Saving Private Ryan isn't happy and cheerful.  I guess that's war; even when you win, you lose.

Band of Brothers wins for best miniseries (I know Das Boot and Stalingrad started that way in Germany).

The best documentary series is The World At War.



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RE: Best WWII movie - 9/30/2006 6:06:37 AM   
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In Which We Serve: The British made them real.
Battleground: Awesome movie about the Bulge. "I'll be glad to repeat it, the answer is nuts,"
The Bridge On The River Kwai: "Madness..MADNESS!"
A Bridge Too Far: "It was the single road..."
The Longest Day: "He's dead, I'm crippled, you're lost. Do you suppose it's always like that in war?"
Kelly's Heroes: What G.I.'s were REALLY like in WWII. "Keep with the positive waves, Moriarty!"
Das Boot: Nail-biting at times.
Stalag 17: "Maybe he just wanted to steal our wire cutters...did ya ever think of that?"
Hell Is For Heroes: Bob Newhart's jeep keeps the Germans at bay.
So Proudly We Hail: Army nurses during the fall of the P.I. Gritty, heartbreaking.
Twelve O'Clock High: Gregory Peck has a breakdown. Awesome movie.
The North Star: Half of Hollywood pretends they're Russians. Great movie

Also, they are war movies but...

Sahara: Campy fun with Humphrey Bogart
Mr. Roberts: Come on, who didn't blink back tears when Pulver read the letter?
To Be Or Not To Be: The original with Jack Benny, not the remake.


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RE: Best WWII movie - 9/30/2006 11:46:41 PM   
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Winged Victory(Reward for anybody who can find me a copy).
A Bridge Too Far
633 Squadron
Twelve O'clock High
Patton
Battleground
Guadalcanal Diary
The Tanks Are Coming
The Story of G.I.Joe
Das Boot
Thirty Seconds Over Tokyo
Cry Havoc
Bataan
P.T.109
Dunkirk

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