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9th Company - 10/20/2006 11:08:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		I just came back from the Cinema... i'v seen "9th Company" a Russian War Movie about Afganistan and i think its great it showe the brutality of a war without any patriotic crap about dying for your country and such as shown in any US made War Films. The Special Effects are on Hollywood level so they are nice to see I recomend this movie to everyone interested in a good War movie showing how the war really likes not some candy hollywood crap

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RE: 9th Company - 10/20/2006 11:18:39 PM   
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RE: 9th Company - 10/20/2006 11:19:54 PM   
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RE: 9th Company - 10/20/2006 11:27:49 PM   
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RE: 9th Company - 10/20/2006 11:52:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		don't know... it was realesed in Russia in 2005... any ways if Afganistan look's like in this movie ( i mean the Landscape) and i would have to chose where to fight between Afgan and Nam... i would chose Nam for sure...  

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RE: 9th Company - 10/21/2006 12:43:44 AM   
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RE: 9th Company - 10/21/2006 12:55:49 AM   
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RE: 9th Company - 10/21/2006 1:09:39 AM   
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RE: 9th Company - 10/21/2006 1:13:47 PM   
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RE: 9th Company - 10/21/2006 1:42:11 PM   
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RE: 9th Company - 10/21/2006 5:04:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		In case anyone cares the Russian title is "Devataya Rota". Good movie. The Russians are good at making gritty war movies. Contrary to pupular belief, a lot of the movies made in the 60s and after on the subject of WW2 are very realistic with hardly any of the party line BS. Some of my personal favorites are "Batalyoni Prosyat Ognya", "Ofitseri" and "Ati Bati".

The first is about a batallion that is ordered to ford the Dniepr and is then abandoned to its anihilation as a diversionary measure. (Based on a book of the same name).

Ofitseri is more about the home front, a boy growing up in the deprivation of wartime USSR while his father dies at the front. Its actually more about the post-war generation and why they turned out the way they did. I think this is also based on a book, but I havent read that one.

"Ati Bati" is actually a screen version of a song (called "Na Bezimyannoy Visote"), if you can beleive it. The story goes that it was an actual occurence that the composer of the song, a wartime military newspaper correspondent, heard of and wrote the song. In any case, its a story of a Komsomol recon company that is sent behind enemy lines to capture a hiltop that controls an important crossroads. The unit of 18 men is then annihilated in repeated assaults. Only 3 men survive to return to their own lines. There was actually another movie, the name of which escapes me, based on the same premise. But that one was set in 1960s USSR, something about how two old war comrades meet again, with many flashbacks and such.

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RE: 9th Company - 10/21/2006 5:22:29 PM   
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In case anyone cares the Russian title is "Devataya Rota". Good movie. The Russians are good at making gritty war movies. Contrary to pupular belief, a lot of the movies made in the 60s and after on the subject of WW2 are very realistic with hardly any of the party line BS. Some of my personal favorites are "Batalyoni Prosyat Ognya", "Ofitseri" and "Ati Bati".

The first is about a batallion that is ordered to ford the Dniepr and is then abandoned to its anihilation as a diversionary measure. (Based on a book of the same name).

Ofitseri is more about the home front, a boy growing up in the deprivation of wartime USSR while his father dies at the front. Its actually more about the post-war generation and why they turned out the way they did. I think this is also based on a book, but I havent read that one.

"Ati Bati" is actually a screen version of a song (called "Na Bezimyannoy Visote"), if you can beleive it. The story goes that it was an actual occurence that the composer of the song, a wartime military newspaper correspondent, heard of and wrote the song. In any case, its a story of a Komsomol recon company that is sent behind enemy lines to capture a hiltop that controls an important crossroads. The unit of 18 men is then annihilated in repeated assaults. Only 3 men survive to return to their own lines. There was actually another movie, the name of which escapes me, based on the same premise. But that one was set in 1960s USSR, something about how two old war comrades meet again, with many flashbacks and such.


As a young teenager I remember seeing excellent Russian war movie (shoot in black & white) where here were almost no dialogue - just sounds IIRC.

I can't remember the name of the film but I think that it might be "Ivanovo detstvo" by famous Andrei Tarkovsky

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0056111/

(this movie was also translated as "My Name Is Ivan" or "Childhood of Ivan" or "Ivan's Childhood")


Other Russian war movies I saw (and I think I saw many of them) were 100% pure propaganda...


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RE: 9th Company - 10/21/2006 5:37:18 PM   
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RE: 9th Company - 10/21/2006 5:41:21 PM   
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Other Russian war movies I saw (and I think I saw many of them) were 100% pure propaganda...


Which ones have you seen?


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RE: 9th Company - 10/21/2006 5:42:26 PM   
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Have to admit that the only Russian war movie I've seen is "The Beast". Unless you count "Potemkin" as a war movie...


The movie about adventures of Russian crew of T-62 tank in Afganistan?


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RE: 9th Company - 10/21/2006 5:47:41 PM   
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Have to admit that the only Russian war movie I've seen is "The Beast". Unless you count "Potemkin" as a war movie...


The movie about adventures of Russian crew of T-62 tank in Afganistan?


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Yup.

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RE: 9th Company - 10/21/2006 6:05:54 PM   
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Have to admit that the only Russian war movie I've seen is "The Beast". Unless you count "Potemkin" as a war movie...


The movie about adventures of Russian crew of T-62 tank in Afganistan?


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Yup.


Never saw that one but I thought it was about Perestroika-era mafia (which is why I never saw it).

EDIT: Yeah. I just asked a Russian colleague of mine and he says that its about a fellow that comes back from Afghanistan and gets mixed up with the mafia. Russsian title is "Po Prozvischu Zver" aka "Nickname: Beast".

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Have to admit that the only Russian war movie I've seen is "The Beast". Unless you count "Potemkin" as a war movie...


The movie about adventures of Russian crew of T-62 tank in Afganistan?


Yup.


Though... this was not Russian movie per-se... it was only about Russians in Afganistan... (I think some "augmented" Augusta helicopeters were used to mimic Mi-24 BTW)...


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Hmmm, I was actually sure it was Russian...


Nope... it seems that I was right... Columbia Pictures...


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Beast_%281988_film%29

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0094716/


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Though... this was not Russian movie per-se... it was only about Russians in Afganistan... (I think some "augmented" Augusta helicopeters were used to mimic Mi-24 BTW)...


<shrug> In that case, I deffinitely didnt see it.

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Hmmm, I was actually sure it was Russian...


Nope... it seems that I was right... Columbia Pictures...


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Beast_%281988_film%29

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0094716/


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Well, it HAS been a while since I saw it... Then I guess I've never seen a Russian war movie...

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RE: 9th Company - 10/21/2006 9:22:42 PM   
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Well it was hazardus to take part in the old WWII USSR movies in one of them they the were filming a russian tank attack so they moved a Tank Battalion on the scean and order it to move... while the tanks started to roll a artilery battery opened up with live ammo and tryed to hit spaces between the tanks... i heard they got some wounded down there...


Live ammo on a movie set? Pshhhhh....

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and i think its great it showe the brutality of a war without any patriotic crap about dying for your country and such as shown in any US made War Films.



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and i think its great it showe the brutality of a war without any patriotic crap about dying for your country and such as shown in any US made War Films.



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RE: 9th Company - 10/22/2006 4:01:31 PM   
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Well to be honest on of the best US made War movies i'v seen was "KELLY'S HEROS"


Thats not a war movie.

Thats an anti-war movie.

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