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RE: Need help!!! - 11/7/2007 7:20:32 AM   
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I won't stoop to making puns like the rest of you and will allow you all to get yourselves out of Dutch. Because its all Greek to me



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RE: Need help!!! - 11/7/2007 9:24:34 AM   
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RE: Need help!!! - 11/10/2007 12:17:15 AM   
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Here's a status report on the naval write ups.

Assigned but un done:

British: 11 BB, 47 CA, 46 CL, 5 ASW Escorts, 7 ASW Carriers, 7 Amphs, 13 Transports, 1 Liner, 14 Submarines and 1 Minisub.

France: 4 CV, 2 CVL, 12 BB, 13 CA, 11 CL, 5 ASW Escorts, 2 ASW Carriers, 4 Amphs, 6 Tansports, 8 Submarines.

Unassigned and Undone:

Austarlia: 4 CL, 2 ASW Escorts, a Transport and a supmarine.

New Zealand: 2 CL.

USA: 6 CV, 2 CA, 53 CL, 11 ASW Escort, 12 ASW Carriers, 8 Amphs, 16 Transports, 2 Naval Support and 23 Submarines.

Canada: 1 CA, 13 ASW Escorts, 3 ASW Carriers, a Transport and 2 Submarines.

Peru: 1 CL

Brazil: 1 CA and 2 CL.

Japan: 5 CV, 5 CVL, 6 BB, 5 CA, 27 CL, 6 ASW EScorts, 4 ASW Carriers, 6 Amphs, 10 Transports, 18 Supmarines and a Minisubmarine.

USSR: 1 CV, 1CVL, 1 CA, 5 CL, 3 ASW Escorts, 4 Amphs, 5 Transports and 19 Submarines.

Nationalist China: 1 CVL, 1 BB, 4 CA, 2 CL, 1 Amph, 3 Transport and 3 Submarines.

Siam: 1 CA and 1 CL.

India: 1 ASW Escort.

Dutch: 5 CA, 2 CL, 2 Transports, and a Submarine.

German: 4 CV, 1 CVL, 2 CA, 12 CL, 10 CX, 3 ASW Escorts, 3 ASW Carriers, 4 Amphs, 7 Transports, 50 Submarines.

Belgium: 1 CA.

Portugal: 1 CA.

Denmark: 2 CA.

Norway: 4 Transports.

Sweden: 6 CA, 1 CL, 2 Transports.

Italy: 4 CV, 1 CVL, 4 BB, 4 CA, 22 CL, 5 ASW Escorts, 2 ASW Carriers, 4 Amphs, 7 Transports, 17 Submarines and 2 Frogmen.

Finland: 2 BB.

Poland: 1 CA.

Greece: 1 CA and 1 CL.

Yugoslavia: 1 CA.

Rumania: 1 CA.

Turkey: 1 BB and 2 CL.

Spanish Republic: 2 CL and 1 Transport.

Spain: 2 CL and 2 Transports.

Upgrades: 4 CV, 2 CVL, 5 BB and 4 CA.

TOTAL TO DO: 28 CV, 11 CVL, 37 BB, 103 CA, 198 CL, 54 ASW Escorts, 33 ASW Carriers, 38 Amphs, 80 Transports, 156 Submarines, 2 Minisubmarine and 2 Frogmen.

As i have just taken over as Naval Writeup coordinator (NWC) i am not sure that i have all the writeups sofar done, so if you have written any of those listed and still have the data let me know.

We could also do with some help for the task ahead, so if you want to contribute just PM me and we will get you started.

Regards, Andi.

Edit: typos.

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RE: Need help!!! - 11/10/2007 1:48:05 AM   
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I have the danish CA on file

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RE: Need help!!! - 11/10/2007 5:14:33 AM   
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Finnish Navy

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Väinämöinen ~ Named after the god of chants, songs and poetry in the Kalevala (epic poem), was a Finnish coastal defence ship, the sister ship of the Finnish Navy's flagship Ilmarinen and also the first ship of her class. She was built at the Crichton-Vulcan shipyard in Turku and was launched in 1932. Väinämöinen, as well as Ilmarinen were planned to be mobile coastal fortresses for the defence of the Finnish demilitarized islands at Åland in particular. The two ships were not suited for operations on the open sea. The biggest problems were that the ships were volatile and rolled too much. The minimal depth keel, together with the high conning tower, made the ships' movements slow and wide. It was said that the ships were uncomfortable, but harmless to their crews.

Type: Coastal Defence Ship Class Väinämöinen class Ordered: 1927 Laid down: August, 1929 Launched: December 28, 1932 Commissioned: April 29, 1932 Fate: Scrapped ca 1968 Displacement: 3,900 tons Length: 93,0 m Beam: 16.864 m Draught: 5,0 m Propulsion: Four Diesel-Electric 875kW, Two shafts. 3,500kW (4,800 hp) Speed: 14.5 knots Range: 700 nm (at 15 knots) Complement: 410
Armament: 2 × 2×254 mm Bofors, 4 × 2×105 mm Bofors, 4 × 40 mm Vickers 2-8 × 20 mm Madsens


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Ilmarinen (in the game the name is misspelled "Ilnamoinen") ~ was a Finnish Navy Panssarilaiva ("Armored ship"), a coastal defence ship by British classification. Ilmarinen was the flagship of the Navy. It was built at the Crichton-Vulcan shipyard in Turku, Finland, and named after the mythological hero Seppo Ilmarinen, the Eternal Hammerer, blacksmith and inventor in theKalevala (epic poem), is an archetypal artificer from Finnish mythology.

Väinämöinen and Ilmarinen were two of the most concentrated naval artillery units ever built. They were designed by the Dutch company NV Ingenieurskantoor voor Scheepsbouw, and were optimized for operations in the archipelago areas of the Baltic Sea. Their shallow draft and super-compact design however gave the ships poor performance in open sea.

Coastal defence ships were particularly popular in the Nordic countries. These vessels had typically heavy armament, rather good armor protection, but generally slow speed. The story of this type of ships began in Denmark, Sweden and Norway at the beginning of the 20th century. Their size was around 4,000 tons, main armament 210 or 240 mm, armor corresponding to that of armoured cruisers and speed about 15 to 18 knots. A coastal defence ship was something between a cruiser and a monitor: slower than a cruiser but better armed, faster than a monitor, but with smaller guns. The coastal defence ships had different types, some of them were close to cruisers and others, such as the Finnish ones, were closer to monitors.

Ordered: 1927 Laid down: September 1929 Launched: July 9, 1931 Commissioned: April 17, 1934 Status: Sunk on September 13, 1941 Displacement: 3,900 tons Length: 93.0 m Beam: 16.864 m Draft: 4.5 m Propulsion: Four Diesel-Electric 875 kW, two shafts Speed: 14.5 knots Range: 700 nm (at 15 knots) Complement: 403 (September 11, 1941)
Armament: 2× 2×254 mm Bofors, 4× 2×105 mm Bofors, 4× 40 mm Vickers 2× 20 mm Madsens


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RE: Need help!!! - 11/10/2007 9:32:51 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Mziln

Finnish Navy

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Väinämöinen ~ Named after the god of chants, songs and poetry in the Kalevala (epic poem), was a Finnish coastal defence ship, the sister ship of the Finnish Navy's flagship Ilmarinen and also the first ship of her class. She was built at the Crichton-Vulcan shipyard in Turku and was launched in 1932. Väinämöinen, as well as Ilmarinen were planned to be mobile coastal fortresses for the defence of the Finnish demilitarized islands at Åland in particular. The two ships were not suited for operations on the open sea. The biggest problems were that the ships were volatile and rolled too much. The minimal depth keel, together with the high conning tower, made the ships' movements slow and wide. It was said that the ships were uncomfortable, but harmless to their crews.

Type: Coastal Defence Ship Class Väinämöinen class Ordered: 1927 Laid down: August, 1929 Launched: December 28, 1932 Commissioned: April 29, 1932 Fate: Scrapped ca 1968 Displacement: 3,900 tons Length: 93,0 m Beam: 16.864 m Draught: 5,0 m Propulsion: Four Diesel-Electric 875kW, Two shafts. 3,500kW (4,800 hp) Speed: 14.5 knots Range: 700 nm (at 15 knots) Complement: 410
Armament: 2 × 2×254 mm Bofors, 4 × 2×105 mm Bofors, 4 × 40 mm Vickers 2-8 × 20 mm Madsens


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Ilmarinen (in the game the name is misspelled "Ilnamoinen") ~ was a Finnish Navy Panssarilaiva ("Armored ship"), a coastal defence ship by British classification. Ilmarinen was the flagship of the Navy. It was built at the Crichton-Vulcan shipyard in Turku, Finland, and named after the mythological hero Seppo Ilmarinen, the Eternal Hammerer, blacksmith and inventor in theKalevala (epic poem), is an archetypal artificer from Finnish mythology.

Väinämöinen and Ilmarinen were two of the most concentrated naval artillery units ever built. They were designed by the Dutch company NV Ingenieurskantoor voor Scheepsbouw, and were optimized for operations in the archipelago areas of the Baltic Sea. Their shallow draft and super-compact design however gave the ships poor performance in open sea.

Coastal defence ships were particularly popular in the Nordic countries. These vessels had typically heavy armament, rather good armor protection, but generally slow speed. The story of this type of ships began in Denmark, Sweden and Norway at the beginning of the 20th century. Their size was around 4,000 tons, main armament 210 or 240 mm, armor corresponding to that of armoured cruisers and speed about 15 to 18 knots. A coastal defence ship was something between a cruiser and a monitor: slower than a cruiser but better armed, faster than a monitor, but with smaller guns. The coastal defence ships had different types, some of them were close to cruisers and others, such as the Finnish ones, were closer to monitors.

Ordered: 1927 Laid down: September 1929 Launched: July 9, 1931 Commissioned: April 17, 1934 Status: Sunk on September 13, 1941 Displacement: 3,900 tons Length: 93.0 m Beam: 16.864 m Draft: 4.5 m Propulsion: Four Diesel-Electric 875 kW, two shafts Speed: 14.5 knots Range: 700 nm (at 15 knots) Complement: 403 (September 11, 1941)
Armament: 2× 2×254 mm Bofors, 4× 2×105 mm Bofors, 4× 40 mm Vickers 2× 20 mm Madsens



Did you do this or is it just info?

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RE: Need help!!! - 11/10/2007 10:59:18 AM   
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Speed: 14.5 knots Range: 700 nm (at 15 knots)


hmmmmmmm, ;-)



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RE: Need help!!! - 11/10/2007 3:23:19 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Graf Zeppelin


Did you do this or is it just info?

Andi.


I thought this was done previously but couldn't find it using search. So I just did it to help you out a little.

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RE: Need help!!! - 11/10/2007 5:47:43 PM   
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These I just did.

Turkish Navy

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BB Yavuz ~ Battle Cruiser Yavuz Sultan Selim or Yavuz
Originaly the German SMS (Seiner Majestät Schiff ~ His Majesty's Ship) Goeben. This ship was half of the two ship German Moltke battle cruiser class and the ships had coal-fired turbine engines. On the outbreak of World War I, the Goeben was in the Mediterranean, accompanied by the light cruiser Breslau. Durring her long and adventurous career there she had threatened French troop convoys from North Africa, bombarded Philippeville, and traded shots with the British light cruiser Gloucester. This made her the target of every Allied warship in the Mediterranean. She and the Breslau eventualy made a dash for the Turkish-controlled Dardanelles. Upon reaching Istanbul on August 16, 1914 they were transferred to the Turkish Navy (the transfer was not made permanent until 1918 and most of the German crews remained to man the ships). the Goben was renamed Yavuz Sultan Selim and the Breslau was renamed Midilli.

The Yavuz Sultan Selim and Midilli sailed from the Dardanelles for the Mediterranean on January 20, 1918 to attack shipping between Salonika and Palestine. But while attacking the island of Imbros and sinking the monitors HMS Raglan and HMS M-28 she was attacked by aircraft from a British seaplane carrier and struck several mines (Midilli was sunk by the mines). Because of the damage from the mines she had to be run aground for repairs. Even though she was re-floated on January 26, 1918 this proved to be her last cruise at war. The ship’s name was shortened to just Yavuz in 1936. The powerful ship remained in the Turkish Navy, although she never again put to sea after 1950, gradually she turned into a relic and was finally put up for sale in 1963. When there were no buyers, the ship was placed on display until 1972 when she was scrapped.

Shipyard: Blohm & Voss, Hamburg Laid down: 28 August 1909 Launched: 28 March 1911 Commissioned: 2 July 1912 Decommissioned: 20 December 1960 Fate: Transferred to Ottoman Navy 16 August 1914. Scrapped 1973.
Displacement: 25,000 tons Length: 186.6 m Beam: 30 m Draught: 9.2 m Propulsion: 4 screws, Parsons turbines, 52,000 hp (39 MW) Speed: 28 knots (52 km/h) Range: Complement: 1,053
Armament: 10-11.2 in (284 mm) 50-calibre guns (5x2), 12-5.9 in (150 mm) guns, 12-3.45 in (88 mm) guns, Aircraft: None


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CL Medjidieh - or 'Medjidiye'. Means glory or honour, one of the ascriptions of God. Also the name of a coin and a distinction later awarded by Ottoman rulers as the Mecidiye Order. No longer in general use, but spelt 'Mecidiye'. This ship was a protected cruiser of 3500 tons displacement launched in 1903 as the Medjidieh. In April 1915 during the Great War she was mined and sunk in the Black Sea, and was subsequently salvaged, repaired and refitted by the Russian navy and re-launched as the Prut. In 1918 she was seized by the Austro-German navy at Sevastopol and returned to Turkey where she was renamed.

Shipyard: Cramps, Philadelphia Displacement: 3300 tons Length: 225 Beam: 40 Draught: 17.5 Propulsion: Babcock and Wilcox coal boliers Speed: 22 knots Range: 470 miles at 10 knots Complement: 330
Armament: six 5.1 inch Vickers guns; four 3 inch Schneider guns and two machine-guns, Aircraft: None


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CL Hamadiye (or 'Hamidieh', ex-'Abdul Hamid', renamed after the 1908 revolution) -
On the night of January 1, 1913 the Hamadiye escaped from the Dardanelles Straits, without being noticed by patrolling destroyers and destroyed the auxiliary light cruiser “Macedonia” anchored in the port of Syros. As it was later known, the main objective of the “Hamadiye" sortie was the execution of a specific mission in Albania. On the morning of February 27, 1913 the light cruiser “Hamidieh” appeared near the Albanian shores and headed to San Giovanni where several Greek troops transport ships were debarking the Serb Army. She attacked the ships and fired a large number of shells causing damages and casualties, especially among the Serbs. The only counteraction was the firing by two mountain guns with which the Serbs had armed the steamship “Trifillia”. That was sufficient for the Turkish cruiser to depart to an unknown destination, without completing her operation. She served as a training ship durring WWII.

Displacement: 3830 tons Length: 368 Beam: 47.5 Draught: 16 Propulsion: 2 sets 4-cylinder triple expansion 2 screws Speed: 16-18 knots Range: 550 miles at 10 knots Complement: 330
Armament: 2-15.2cm/8-11.9cm


Displacement, Dimensions, and Armament are from Janes Fighting Ships WWI and WWII.

The information on the Väinämöinen http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_coastal_defence_ship_V%C3%A4in%C3%A4m%C3%B6inen and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V%C3%A4in%C3%A4m%C3%B6inen

The information on the Ilmarinen http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Finnish_coastal_defence_ship_Ilmarinen and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ilmarinen

The information on the Battle Cruiser Yavuz Sultan Selim http://www.lostbattalion.com/t-bb_Yavuz.aspx

The information on the CL Hamidehi is a rewrite from http://ccouclelis.googlepages.com/balkanwarspart2

The information on the CL Medjidieh http://www.naval-history.net/WW1NavyTurkish.htm





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RE: Need help!!! - 11/11/2007 2:46:37 AM   
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'Ilmarinen' sounds like it is from the Elvish Navy.

How was it sunk?

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RE: Need help!!! - 11/11/2007 3:35:11 AM   
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ORIGINAL: brian brian

'Ilmarinen' sounds like it is from the Elvish Navy.

How was it sunk?



Väinämöinen and Ilmarinen both took part in Operation Nordwind on September 13, 1941 in which German forces were to take the Estonian islands of Saaremaa and Hiiumaa. A group of ships were to be used to deceive the Soviets. When returning from the mission, Ilmarinen was hit by mines. Two sea mines had got entangled on the paravane cable; when the ship turned, the mines hit the ship and were set off. The ship sunk in seven minutes. Only 132 men of the crew survived and 271 were lost. The survivors were later known as Ilmarisen uimaseura (Ilmarinen's Swimming Team).

Wikipedia ~ Finnish coastal defence ship Ilmarinen ~ Operational history


Please note the rewrite on BB Yavuz.

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RE: Need help!!! - 11/11/2007 10:24:39 AM   
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Cheers Milz.

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RE: Need help!!! - 11/12/2007 6:17:53 PM   
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Good thing that, with the generic nature of subs, transports, amphibs & asw units, one can come up with a fairly standard blurb for each (dependent on nationality) and go from there.

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RE: Need help!!! - 11/12/2007 8:47:56 PM   
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Peru

CA Almirante Grau
CL Coronel B
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Froonp ~ Help needed - MWIF naval counter descriptions ~ Post #21
Mziln ~ Naval counter description ~ Post #16


Brazil

CA Floriano (Marshal Floriano) Coastal Defense Crusier
Built in La Seyne Scrapped: 1936
Displacement: 2162 tons Dimensions: 267.5 x 48 x 13 1/4 Propulsion:2 sets triple expansion 2 screws Boilers: 1912 Babcock Speed 15 knots Range: 2500 at 10 knots. Crew: 200. Armament: 2 x 9.4 inch 50 cal., 4 x 1.7 in. 50 cal., 4 x 6 pdr, 2 M.G. (2 field).

CL Bahia
Exploded and Sank July 4, 1945 with the loss of 294 Crew.
Built by Armstrong engined by Vickers Propulsion: 3 Brown-Curtis geared turbines, 3 shafts Boilers: 6 Thornyerofr oil-burning. Speed: 27 knots Range: 3092 miles at 24 knots, 3092 miles at 18 knots, 6600 miles at 10 knots. Armament: 10 x 4.7 inch, 50 cal. (Armstrong), 4 x 3 inch AA, 4 x 3pdr. saluting, 8 x M.G. Torpedo tubes (21 in. Bliss) 4 x M.G. Torpedo tubes 21 in. above water in twin mountings.

CL Rio Grande (Rio Grande Do Sul)
Was a Bahia class cruiser built by Armstrong engined by Vickers Compleated 1910 refitted 1925-26
Propulsion: 3 Brown-Curtis geared turbines, 3 shafts Boilers: 6 Thornyerofr oil-burning. Speed: 27 knots Range: 3092 miles at 24 knots, 3092 miles at 18 knots, 6600 miles at 10 knots. Armament: 10 x 4.7 inch, 50 cal. (Armstrong), 4 x 3 inch AA, 4 x 3pdr. saluting, 8 x M.G. Torpedo tubes (21 in. Bliss) 4 x M.G. Torpedo tubes 21 in. above water in twin mountings. Stricken: 1948

Brazilian Navy ~ BAHIA CLASS CRUISERS


Poland

CA Destroyer Flotilla
ORP Burza (Storm) Launched: 1929 Scrapped: 1977
ORP Blyskawica (Lightning) Launched: 1937 Museum ship since 1977
ORP Grom (Thunderbolt) Launched: 1936 Sunk by German Bombers 1940
ORP Piorun (Thunder) Launched: 1940 (in France) Stricken 1955

ORP Piorun was part of the 4th destroyer Flotilla which included Cossack, Maori, Sikh, and Zulu. That attacked the Bismarck at midnight on May 26, 1941.

Polish Navy Homepage 1939 - 1947
CAMPAIGN SUMMARIES OF WORLD WAR 2 BATTLE OF THE ATLANTIC - BATTLES and WARSHIP LOSSES, Part 1 of 2 1939-1942


Siam

CA Sri Authia (Sri Ayuthia SP!) Coastal Defense Crusier
She was heavily damaged and run aground at the Battle of Koh Chang January 17, 1941 by a Vichy French squadron consisting of CL Lamotte-Piquet and Sloops Dumont d´Urville, Amiral Charner, Thahure, and Marne. She was raised and repaired by the Japanese and survived the war, but was sunk by shore batteries on July 3, 1951 during an failed revoltution.

No technical information available.

CL Dhonburi (Thonburi, a.k.a Dhonburi) Coastal Defense Light Crusier
She was Sunk at the Battle of Koh Chang January 17, 1941 by a Vichy French squadron consisting of CL Lamotte-Piquet and Sloops Dumont d´Urville, Amiral Charner, Thahure, and Marne.

Laid down by Kawasaki Co., Kobe Japan 1936 Displacement: 2,265 tons Dimensions: 252 2/3 x 47 1/3 x 13 3/4 feet Propulsion: 2 seta M.A.N. Diessels 2 shafts Speed: 15.5 knots Crew 155. Armament: 4 x 8 inch, 4 x 3 inch AA, 4 20mm AA.

Battle for Koh Chang, 14 January 1941

All the histories are rewritten from the sources listed.
All technical information was verified from Janes Fighting Ships of World War I and Janes Fighting Ships of World War II when available.

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RE: Need help!!! - 11/14/2007 4:18:12 PM   
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Belgium
CA Artevelde (ex- K4, ex - Lorelei, ex - Artevelde) Sloop
When Germany over ran Belgium in 1940 she was seized and later completed by them. She was recovered intact after the war.

Laid down: Cockerill yard, Antwerp 1939 to replace Zinna Displacement: 1,640 Dimensions: 292 (pp.) 323 (o.a.) x 34.5 x 12 feet Propulsion: Parsons-Rateau geared turbines. 2 shafts. Speed 30 knots Crew: 180 Armament: 3 x 4.1 inch, 2 x 40mm AA, 2 x 37mm AA, 16 x 20mm AA, 30 DC carried

Portugal
CA Destroyer Flotilla
Lima 29th May 1933 (Vouga class Destroyer)
Tejo 4th May 1935 (Vouga class Destroyer)
Vouga 25th January 1933

Displacement: 1,219 tons Dimensions: 219 (pp) 322 (o.a.) x 31 x 11 feet. Propulsion: Parsons geared turbines. 2 Yarrow boilers. Range: 5,400 miles at 10 knots. Speed: 27 knots. Armament: 4 x 4.7 inch 50 cal., 5 x 20mm AA, 4 D.C.T. Torpedo tubes: 4 x 21 inch quadrupled Mine racks fitted and 20 mines carried.

Denmark
CA Peder Skram ~ Coast Defense Ship
She served as a command ship for the Chief of the Danish coastal fleet during the German occupation of Denmark. But on August 29, 1943, she was sucuttled by her own crew in anticipation of the seizure of the Danish fleet by Germany. The Germans salvaged her, and used her 15cm guns as a coastal battery, and rebuilt her as an anti-aircraft (Flak) and training ship for the German Kriegsmarine. While in German naval service, she was re-named Adler and was sunk at Kiel-Friderichsort, by Allied bombers in April, 1945. After the war she was Salvaged, brought back to the Denmark, and scrapped in1949.

Built by: Royal Naval Dockyard, Copenhagen Laid down: April 25, 1905 Launched: May 2, 1908 Commissioned: September 24, 1908 Decommissioned: August 29, 1943 Displacement: 3,783 tons Dimensions: 87.4m x 15.7m x 5.0m Propulsion: 5,400 Hps Range: 2,620 nautical miles at 9 knots Speed: 16 knots Crew: 262 Armament: 2 x 24cm, 4 x 15cm, 10 x 75mm, 2 x 37mm, 1 x 45cm Torpedo Tube (bow), 2 x 45cm Torpedo Tubes (amidships) (2x1), 1 x 45cm Torpedo Tube (aft)
1916: 2 x 75mm Guns replaced by: 2 x 75mm AA
1934: 2 x 75 mm AA replaced by: 4 x 8mm MG (2x2) and: 4 x 20mm AA (2x2)
1939-1940: 4 x 20mm AA (2x2) replaced by: 2 x 40mm AA


CA Niels Juel ~ Coast Defense Ship
Displacement: 3,800 Crew: 310-369 Armament: 10 x 15cm
Sunk by bombers March 5, 1945

Netherlands
CA Sumatra
Used as a breakwater for the Mulbury harbour (Normandy) June 9, 1944

DIsplacement: 6,670 tons Dimensions: 560 1/3 x 51 1/2 x 16 3/4 feet. Propulsion: 3 sets Krupp-Germania trubines. 3 screws. 8 schulz-Thornycroft boilers. Range: 4800 miles at 12 knots 3600 miles at 15 knots Speed: 30 knots. Crew: 480 Armament: 10 x 5.9 inch 50 cal., 4 x 4013pdr. S.A. 55cal AA, 12 x mines

CA Java
Torpedoed and sunk at the battle of the Java Sea February 28, 1942

DIsplacement: 6,670 tons Dimensions: 560 1/3 x 51 1/2 x 16 3/4 feet. Propulsion: 3 sets Krupp-Germania trubines. 3 screws. 8 schulz-Thornycroft boilers. Range: 4800 miles at 12 knots 3600 miles at 15 knots Speed: 30 knots. Crew: 480 Armament: 10 x 5.9 inch 50 cal., 4 x 4013pdr. S.A. 55cal AA, 12 x mines


CA De Ruyter
Torpedoed and sunk at the battle of the Java Sea February 28, 1942

DIsplacement: 6,450 Dimensions: 560 1/3 x 51 1/2 x 16 3/4 feet. Propulsion: 2-shaft Parsons geared turbines, 2 Yarrow boilers. Speed: 32 knots. Crew: 435 Armament: 7 x 5.9 inch 50 cal., 10 x 40mm AA, 8 x .5 inch MG.

CA Eendract (Eendracht SP!)
Under construction when Germans over ran the Netherlands. Compleated after the war.

Displacement: 8,359 tons Dimensions: 598 (pp.) 609 5/6 (o.a.) x 56 3/4 x 18 feet 7 inches. Propulsion: Parsons geared turbines. Boilers: 6 of three drum type. Speed: 33 knots Armament: 8 x 5.9 inch, 14 x 40mm AA, 8 x MG. Torpedo Tubes: 6 x 21 inch.

CA De Zeven Prov. (De Zeven Provincien)
Under construction when Germans over ran the Netherlands. Compleated after the war.

Displacement: 8,359 tons Dimensions: 598 (pp.) 609 5/6 (o.a.) x 56 3/4 x 18 feet 7 inches. Propulsion: Parsons geared turbines. Boilers: 6 of three drum type. Speed: 33 knots Armament: 8 x 5.9 inch, 14 x 40mm AA, 8 x MG. Torpedo Tubes: 6 x 21 inch.

CL Tromp
Stricken 1958
Displacement: 4,150 tons Dimensions: 426 1/2 (pp) 433 (o.a.) x 40 3/4 x 15 feet. Propulsion: Parsons geared turbines. 2 shafts. Boilers: 4 Yarrow Speed: 32 1/2 knots. Crew: 380
Armament: 6 x 5.9 inch 50 cal (Bofors), 8 x 40mm AA (2pdr Bofors), 2 x 20mm AA (Oerlikon), 4 D.C.T. Torpedo tubes: 6 x 21 inch tripled)

CL Heemskerck (Jacob van Heemskerck)
Launched in September 1939. To avoid the ships capture by the Germans the Executive Officer with a skeleton crew aboard the incomplete Heemskerck. Tested the engines for the first time, prematurlety commission the ship, and sailed for England. In May the ship, still incompleatly armed and ill equipped, transfeerred the Crown Princess Juliana to Canada. She was compleated October 1940 in a British yard.

Displacement: 4,150 tons Dimensions: 426 1/2 (pp) 433 (o.a.) x 40 3/4 x 15 feet. Propulsion: Parsons geared turbines. 2 shafts. Boilers: 4 Yarrow Speed: 32 1/2 knots. Crew: 420 Armament: 10 x 4 inch AA, 8 x 40mm AA (2pdr Bofors), 8 x 20mm AA (Oerlikon).

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RE: Need help!!! - 11/15/2007 4:06:44 PM   
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Can I help with checking unit description for Yugoslavia forces? Also Serbia/Bosnia/Croatia/Tito?

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RE: Need help!!! - 11/15/2007 6:43:17 PM   
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Can I help with checking unit description for Yugoslavia forces? Also Serbia/Bosnia/Croatia/Tito?


We have a guy on the task but I am sure he could use some help, as he does not (to my knowledge) speak croatian nor serbian (i am culturally sensitive enough to not call them one language ) His name is Dale. PM him!

It would be great to have more hands working on this!

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RE: Need help!!! - 11/15/2007 7:22:48 PM   
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ORIGINAL: capitan


quote:

ORIGINAL: morkin

Can I help with checking unit description for Yugoslavia forces? Also Serbia/Bosnia/Croatia/Tito?


We have a guy on the task but I am sure he could use some help, as he does not (to my knowledge) speak croatian nor serbian (i am culturally sensitive enough to not call them one language ) His name is Dale. PM him!

It would be great to have more hands working on this!

I believe the new partisan HQ units need writeups too: Tito and Zoya. For the other 57 HQs we already have much longer writeups - 4 or 5 paragraphs each.

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RE: Need help!!! - 11/16/2007 1:43:07 PM   
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Dale volonteered for those too actually but I am not sure how much has been done so far.

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RE: Need help!!! - 11/16/2007 3:17:23 PM   
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I'll do Sweden

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RE: Need help!!! - 11/16/2007 4:40:35 PM   
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Sweden is done (for landunits at least). The countries unassigned (will a new revision soon) are mainly south americans but I think the UK and Japan could use a hand, as I have yet to see any results for them. Would those be interesting?

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RE: Need help!!! - 11/16/2007 5:07:41 PM   
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I meant the naval units. Ive done them and posted them in the other forum. You can grab them there. I just wanted to post in here so some other guy dont do the same naval units.

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RE: Need help!!! - 11/17/2007 1:30:18 AM   
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ok

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RE: Need help!!! - 11/17/2007 12:12:27 PM   
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Ok, Im doing the Royal Navy now. Everyone else hands off.

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RE: Need help!!! - 11/17/2007 3:04:29 PM   
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Ok, Im doing the Royal Navy now. Everyone else hands off.

Go on !

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RE: Need help!!! - 11/18/2007 10:36:19 AM   
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One very important note to all who are doing write ups. Do NOT just copy/paste text from various websites, to take such text and include in a commerical game might lead to undesired consequences. It is VITAL that you write the text yourself. You are of cource allowed to read other webpages and grab inspiration from texts and books, but you need to write the text to be inserted into the game yourself.

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RE: Need help!!! - 11/18/2007 10:55:33 AM   
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One very important note to all who are doing write ups. Do NOT just copy/paste text from various websites, to take such text and include in a commerical game might lead to undesired consequences. It is VITAL that you write the text yourself. You are of cource allowed to read other webpages and grab inspiration from texts and books, but you need to write the text to be inserted into the game yourself.

Yes. Absolutely.

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RE: Need help!!! - 11/18/2007 8:09:20 PM   
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Did you lads not get the yugoslavian army stuff ? I sent it ages ago. I was waiting for some feedback before getting on with any more work, I did found enough english source material in the end.

Have the relevent books from library on the shelf for Tito and USSR partizans just question of finding a day to sit down and do the write up.

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RE: Need help!!! - 11/18/2007 11:26:22 PM   
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Did you lads not get the yugoslavian army stuff ? I sent it ages ago. I was waiting for some feedback before getting on with any more work, I did found enough english source material in the end.

Have the relevent books from library on the shelf for Tito and USSR partizans just question of finding a day to sit down and do the write up.

Cheers

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Nope, not seen it and not in my mailbox. Please send again!

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RE: Need help!!! - 11/19/2007 6:52:11 PM   
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Status-report on Landunits (all countries):
574 out of 1062 units done (54%)

DONE:
Siberian Russia 4/4 (Adam) DONE!
Finland 8/8 (Adam) DONE!
Rumania 10/10 (Adam) DONE!
Mongolia 1/1 (Adam) DONE!
Switzerland 6/6 (Adam) DONE!
Phillipines 1/1 (Adam) DONE!
Afghanistan 2/2 (Adam) DONE!
Australia 8/8 (Michaelbaldur) DONE!
New Zeeland 3/3 (Michaelbaldur) DONE!
South Africa 5/5 (Michaelbaldur) DONE!
Denmark 1/1 (Michaelbaldur) DONE!
Norway 3/3 (Michaelbaldur) DONE!
Poland 14/14 (Michaelbaldur) DONE!
AOI 1/1 (Mziln) DONE!
Croatia 1/1 (Capitan) DONE!
Ecuador 1/1 (Capitan) DONE!
Peru 1/1 (Capitan) DONE!
French Somalia 1/1 (Capitan) DONE!
Ivory Coast 1/1 (Capitan) DONE!
French Sudan 1/1 (Capitan) DONE!
Senegal 1/1 (Capitan) DONE!
Middle Congo 1/1 (Capitan) DONE!
Niger 1/1 (Capitan) DONE!
Indo-China 1/1 (Capitan) DONE!
N. East Indies 2/2 (Capitan) DONE!
Belgian Congo 1/1 (Capitan) DONE!
Saudi Arabia 1/1 (Capitan) DONE!
Iraq 2/2 (Capitan) DONE!
Liberia 1/1 (Capitan) DONE!
Cameroon 1/1 (Capitan) DONE!
Gabon 1/1 (Capitan) DONE!
Madagascar 1/1 (Capitan) DONE!
Morroco 1/1 (Capitan) DONE!
Algeria 2/2 (Capitan) DONE!
Tunisia 1/1 (Capitan) DONE!
Syria 2/2 (Capitan) DONE!
Sudan 1/1 (Capitan) DONE!
Nigeria 2/2 (Capitan) DONE!
Sierra Leone 1/1 (Capitan) DONE!
British Somalialand 1/1 (Capitan) DONE!
Egypt 2/2 (Capitan) DONE!
Kenya 1/1 (Capitan) DONE!
Uganda 1/1 (Capitan) DONE!
Tanganyika 1/1 (Capitan) DONE!
Northern Rhodesia 1/1 (Capitan) DONE!
Southern Rhodesia 1/1 (Capitan) DONE!
Sweden 13/13 (Toed) DONE!
Ireland 2/2 (bj_rodhe) DONE!
Hungary 6/6 (Grisouille) DONE!
Bulgaria 3/3 (Grisouille) DONE!
France 68/68(Grisouille)DONE (but not redacted)
Greece 4/4 (Grisouille) DONE!
SS-Germany 19/19 (Grisouille) DONE!

ASSIGNED but NOT DONE:
USA 50/99 (Adam)
Russia 124/146 (Adam)
Ukraine 0/8 (Adam)
Communist China 16/18 (Wosung)
Nat. China 34/38 (Wosung)
Korea 0/2 (Wosung)
Manchuko 0/4 (Wosung)
Formosa 0/1 (Wosung)
Italy 22/61 (Jimm)
Libya 0/3 (Jimm)
Eritrea 0/1 (Jimm)
Italian Somalialand 0/2 (Jimm)
Canada 1/10 (Michaelbaldur)
India 1/13 (Michaelbaldur)
Burma 0/2 (Michaelbaldur)
Germany 73/128 (Capitan)
Thailand 0/1 (Capitan)
Palestine 0/1 (Capitan)
Aden 0/1 (Capitan)
New Caledonia 0/1 (Capitan)
Belgium 0/4 (BredsjöMagnus)
Nat. Spain 2/14 (SPerdomo)
Yugoslavia 1/9 (Dale)
Zoya and Tito 0/2 Dale)
Northern Ireland 0/1 (IrishDrago0nGuards)
Japan 11/76 (Hazpak)
UK 9/57 (bj_rodhe)
Brasil 0/5 (Horaf)
Argentina 0/3 (Horaf)

UNASSIGNED:
Mexico 0/6
Panama 0/2
Colombia 0/1
Venezuela 0/1
Bolivia 0/1
Paraguay 0/1
Uruguay 0/1
Chile 0/2
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Iran 0/2
Netherlands 0/2
Portugal 0/2
Turkey 1/13

LOW PRIORITY:
Ethiopia 1/6
Rep. Spain 1/14
Czeckoslovakia 1/15
Austria 0/3
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"NEW UNITS" 7/61

Also the ART (including ART, AA and AT) for all nations is UNASSIGNED.

Anyone who like to pitch in with any of the unassigned countries is welcome to take part! Just send me a PM and I will help you get started!



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