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RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land - 11/28/2009 1:40:19 PM   
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Next US carrier class with a completed write-up is the Yorktown-class. Please see the Yorktown herself which feature the Battle of Midway.

[4056 Yorktown - by Robert Jenkins]
.B Engine(s) output: 120,000 hp
.B Top Speed: 32.5 knots
.B Main armament: 8 x 5-inch (127mm), 16 x 1.1-inch (28mm) guns
.B Aircraft: 90 (Operational Maximum 81)
.B Displacement (full load): 25,484 tons
.B Thickest armour: 4-inch (belt)
.P The three ships of the Yorktown-class were the first of the modern United
States Navy (USN) carriers; the previous four having been a mixture of the
experimental Langley, two battlecruiser conversions and the disappointing USS
Ranger. The first two ships were built between 1934 and 1938, while the third
ship, Hornet, was built between 1939 and 1941, as a counter to the Japanese
refusal to abide by the 1936 London Naval Treaty.
.P The Washington Naval Treaty of 1922 had allowed the USN an allowance of 69,000
tons for the purposes of building new carriers. After the disappointing
performance of USS Ranger, two larger carriers of the Yorktown-class were
constructed. It was hoped that this design would provide a better balance between
the size of the ship, its protection and the air group that could be carried. In
Yorktown and Enterprise, the USN achieved this, and these ships influenced the
design of the subsequent Essex-class.
.P These carriers could carry around ninety aircraft, although operationally the
optimal number was around eighty. The ships had two hangars, served by three
lifts. Three catapults were fitted, designed to launch 5,500lb aircraft at 40
knots. Two were fitted on the flight-deck forward, while a third was fitted at
hangar deck level, but this was rarely used. Nine arrester wires were provided to
assist landing.
.P The Yorktowns armour protection consisted of a belt, 4-inches thick at its
maximum, that gave horizontal protection to the machinery spaces, magazines and
aviation fuel. Underwater, anti-torpedo protection was provided by a layer of
three tanks that were designed to cushion the impact of any torpedo. The outer
two tanks were filled with liquid, while the middle one was filled with air.
Vertical protection was limited to a 1.5-inch armour deck.
.P Defensive armament was provided by eight 5-inch dual-purpose guns which gave
these ships excellent anti-aircraft (AA) defence. For close-range defence, four
quadruple 1.1-inch guns were fitted.
.P Most USN aircraft carriers have been named after famous battles or famous
Americans. Yorktown was named after one of the most decisive battles of the
American War of Independence, fought and won by a combined Franco-American force
against the British in 1781.
.P Yorktown was completed in September 1937. She was in Norfolk, Virginia in
December 1941 when the Japanese attacked the naval base at Pearl Harbor, but was
quickly despatched through the Panama Canal to join the Pacific Fleet after the losses
suffered in that attack (see USS Arizona). Yorktown arrived in San Diego at the end of
December, whereupon she became the Flagship of Task Force (TF) 17 under the
command of Rear-Admiral Fletcher. In the immediate aftermath of Pearl Harbor
TF17 was one of three task forces, each built around a carrier, that would seek
to take the war to the Japanese.
.P Her first operation began at the start of January 1942, escorting a convoy
taking the 2nd Marine Brigade to Pago Pago in Samoa. She was joined in TF17 by
the cruisers Louisville and St Louis and their escorting destroyers.
.P From Samoa, TF17 then joined up with Vice-Admiral Halsey`s TF8 in order to
undertake air strikes against the Japanese held islands in the Marshalls and the
Gilberts (see USS Salt Lake City). These strikes, carried out at the beginning of
February, caused only slight damage to the Japanese, but they were carried out in
order to show the Japanese that the losses at Pearl Harbor would not stop the US
from fighting back at every opportunity; they were also seen as a way of boosting
morale and providing valuable combat experience for the men of the USN. A further
strike against Eniwetok a couple of weeks later was cancelled as TF17 were needed
to provide escort for convoys taking reinforcements to the south-west Pacific.
.P Upon arrival in that region, TF17 joined with TF11, containing the carrier
Lexington and together, they were tasked with launching an air strike against
Japanese positions in northern New Guinea. The air strikes were carried out from
a position south of the island and was successful in sinking or destroying a
number of Japanese ships, including the cruiser Yubari which was damaged.
.P At the start of May, TF17 and TF11 were merged to form an enlarged TF17 under
Fletcher and this force was stationed in the Coral Sea. This was in response to
US intelligence finding out that the Japanese intended to invade Port Moresby in
the south of New Guinea as well as Tulagi in the Solomons. The battle that ensued
became known as the Battle of the Coral Sea, during which Japanese expansion
plans were checked for the first time (see USS Lexington). Yorktown took a bomb
hit that did serious damage and would have ordinarily kept her from taking any
part in combat operations for many weeks to come. However, the USN did not have
the luxury of time as the Japanese were planning their next operation for the
start of June. Thanks to a super-human effort, Yorktown was patched up and was
thrown into her next, and last operation; the Battle of Midway.
.P Midway was to be the most decisive naval battle since Trafalgar, 137 years
previously, but sadly Yorktown was not to survive the engagement. The battle was
fought as an indirect result of the Doolittle raid the previous April (see USS
Hornet). This attack had convinced the Japanese of the need to push their
defensive perimeter even further east and to quickly destroy the US carriers they
had missed at Pearl Harbor. Although Admiral Yamamoto had the Midway operation in
mind before the Doolittle Raid, he had failed to win sufficient support for the
operation; the bombing of Tokyo won the argument in his favour.
.P The Japanese plan was to attack Midway using aircraft from their 1st Air Fleet
which would neutralise the island`s air defences. The Japanese would then be free
to invade Midway, forcing the Americans to bring their carriers into battle to
defend the island; at which point they would be sunk. Simple. However, a number
of factors combined to ensure that what happened, was very different from what
the Japanese had planned for. Firstly, the plan was overly complex, calling for
diversionary landings in the Aleutians that achieved nothing save dispersing the
Japanese forces; secondly, damage done to the carrier Shokaku, and her sister
Zuikaku`s loss of aircraft at the Battle of the Coral Sea had cost Yamamoto two
of his six fleet carriers; thirdly, the "victory disease" that the Japanese had
exhibited during the Coral Sea encounter remained on display at Midway. This
evidenced itself in massive over confidence and a complete certainty that the
USN would react exactly as Yamamoto expected them to. That the USN may have
advance warning of the Japanese plan, was not considered; even in the face of
evidence to the contrary.
.P The Japanese forces were split into a dozen groups, five of which were
assigned to the Aleutian operation. For Midway - Operation Mi - the First Carrier
Striking Force would lead the attack. This force, under Vice-Admiral Nagumo,
consisted of the fleet carriers Akagi, Kaga, Soryu and Hiryu; the battleships
Haruna and Kirishima; the cruisers Tone and Chikuma and a screening force led by
the cruiser Nagara with three destroyer flotillas. The remaining forces were to
play little part in the events to come.
.P Prior to the launch of the Japanese operation, an American intelligence unit
based at Hawaii, and led by Commander Joseph Rochefort, had correctly worked out
the Japanese target. This allowed Admiral Nimitz to bring his three remaining
carriers back to Pearl Harbor to await the Japanese attack. Thanks to the
incredible turnaround of Yorktown, Nimitz was able to deploy all three carriers.
These ships were split into two task forces, under the command of Fletcher. TF17
consisted of Yorktown, the heavy cruisers Astoria and Portland and six
destroyers. TF 16 was commanded by Rear-Admiral Raymond Spruance, who was
promoted to the role due to the ill-health of Vice-Admiral Halsey. This was to be
Spruance`s first such command, and the faith shown in him was to be amply repaid.
TF16 was made up of the carriers Enterprise and Hornet; the heavy cruisers
Minneapolis, New Orleans, Northampton, Pensacola and Vincennes; the light cruiser
Atlanta and nine destroyers.
.P Spruance sailed on the 28th May for the rendezvous point, which was 325 miles
north-east of Midway; Point Luck. Fletcher followed the following day and the two
task forces met up on the 2nd June. The plan was that the aircraft on Midway,
approximately one hundred and fifteen aircraft, would be used in the following
way; the long range Catalina aircraft would search for the enemy carriers and
once found, the bombers would be used to attack them, escorted by the fighters.
In addition, the carrier planes would also be used to attack Nagumo`s carriers;
on Midway it would be left to the AA defences alone to defend itself.
.P The Japanese forces had sailed from their various bases in the last week of
May, the First Carrier Strike Force left Japan on the 27th. Essentially, the
Japanese forces were split in two, sailing parallel with each other toward their
target. To the north were Nagumo`s carriers and Yamamoto`s 1st Fleet Main Body,
which contained his Flagship, the giant battleship Yamato. To the south were the
Midway Invasion Force, the 2nd Fleet Main Body and the Midway Support Force.
.P On the 3rd June, about six hundred miles from Midway, contact was made when a
Catalina spotted what turned out to be the Midway Invasion Force. Two attacks
were launched from Midway despite the long range. Firstly, a flight of nine B-17
bombers carried out a high level attack, but failed to deliver any bombs on
target. Secondly, in the early hours of the 4th June, four Catalina`s launched
torpedoes against the enemy transports and one of these hit and damaged the
transport Akebono Maru, although she was able to continue with the convoy.
.P The knowledge that the Invasion Fleet had been spotted much earlier than
planned did not cause the Japanese to alter their plan of action; in fact Nagumo
was not even made aware of this development, while on the American side, Nimitz
was not tempted to send his carriers or their aircraft south to meet this threat;
he still firmly believed his intelligence, and that Nagumo`s carriers would
appear to the north-west of Midway, from where they would launch their air
assault on the island. That night, Nimitz ordered his carriers to sail from Point
Luck to a position two hundred miles north of Midway; the 4th June would be a
busy day.
.P The Japanese carriers were in position to begin their attack in the early
hours of the 4th. At 0430hrs the first of one hundred and eight aircraft took off
from the four carriers. At around this time the Japanese also launched their
reconnaissance flights. Once again though, the Japanese plan was tardy in both
its design, and its execution. The reconnaissance forces allocated to the task
were insufficient, too limited in scope and, when problems were encountered with
some of the aircraft, there was no back-up plan. The USN may have had the
advantage given to them by Rochefort`s intelligence unit that confirmed roughly
where the Japanese would appear, but it was the actions of the officers and men
of the Imperial Japanese Navy that sowed the seeds of their defeat.
.P From Midway that morning, long-range reconnaissance aircraft were sent into
the sky to begin their search for Nagumo`s carriers, while the aircraft of the
First Wave, closed in on the island. The carriers were found by a Catalina at
around 0520hrs and shortly after, another Catalina spotted the in-bound strike
aircraft. Contrary to Nimitz`s orders, some of the fighter aircraft remained at
Midway to attack the attacking aircraft, although they were soon to lose out in
the dogfights that developed and the bombers were left largely intact to attack
targets on the ground. With no aircraft on the ground to destroy, this first
attack was only partially successful and it was clear that a further strike would
be required to neutralise Midway`s defences.
.P Meanwhile, aboard the US carriers, Fletcher had decisions to make. He decided
to order Spruance, with Enterprise and Hornet, to close the gap to the Japanese
carriers as he desperately wanted to attack them when they were at their most
vulnerable - between the recovery of the First Wave and the launching of the
second. Spruance kept thirty-six fighters to guard his carriers and the remaining
one hundred and twenty-one aircraft began taking-off from 0700hrs and flew to
seek out the enemy. An hour and a half later Yorktown, sailing behind TF16 as she
had to recover her scout planes that had been sent out that morning, launched
thirty-five of her aircraft too.
.P With his First Wave in the air, Nagumo ordered the Second Wave to be prepared.
This strike force would include torpedo armed "Kate" aircraft to sink the USN
carriers. There was just one problem; the Japanese had not spotted the carriers,
and Nagumo was probably convinced there were none in the area. Then at 0700hrs,
the commander of the First Wave, Lt Tomonaga, radioed Nagumo to request a second
strike against Midway. Nagumo agreed and ordered that the Kates have their
torpedoes swapped for bombs.
.P At around this time, the first of the Midway based aircraft had reached the
Japanese carriers. Four B-26 Marauders and six TBF`s (later to be named Avengers
as a result of this action) attacked Akagi, but scored no hits for the loss of
seven aircraft. Just before 0800hrs another group of aircraft from Midway arrived
on the scene. First to attack were sixteen Dauntless dive-bombers that attacked
the Hiryu, but again no hits were scored and half the aircraft were shot down.
This attack was followed by the arrival of a flight of B-17s that had originally
been ordered to attack the invasion convoy, but had been diverted north once the
carriers had been spotted. As had happened the day before however, the high level
attacks proved fruitless. The final attack from Midway was launched by obsolete
Vindicator aircraft with predictable results.
.P Having survived all that the American airmen could throw at him, at 0830hrs
Nagumo could be forgiven for feeling invincible. If he did, that feeling was to
last only a short time. Picture the scene: the First Wave had returned to their
carriers and were waiting to land; the Second Wave was on-deck, armed with bombs
waiting for the order to launch against Midway...and now, to his horror, came
news that could not have been more threatening. One of the scout planes had
spotted an American carrier.
.P Nagumo, not unreasonably, did not want to launch his bombers against the enemy
carrier as they had no fighter escort ready. The decision he took was for the
aircraft of the second wave to be taken below, have the bombs on board the Kates
replaced with torpedoes, and allow the First Wave to land. At just after 0900hrs
all aircraft of the First Wave had been recovered. Now was the time for the
Japanese to head for where the American carrier had been sighted in order to send
her to the bottom of the Pacific.
.P After the carriers changed course, so the first of the one hundred and fifty-
six US carrier planes, launched earlier, came into view of the look-out on board
Chikuma. Not all the aircraft had found the Japanese however; caught out by their
previous change of course. The Dauntless and Wildcat crews from Hornet fell
victim to this mistake and while the longer range dive-bombers mostly made it
back to Midway or Hornet, the fighters had to ditch. Lt-Cdr Waldron, also from
Hornet, guessed correctly that the Japanese would change course and his squadron
of fifteen Devastator aircraft came upon the enemy at 0920hrs. Bravely, without
fighter cover, he led his men, in their out-dated aircraft toward the carriers.
Waldron and his men had no chance and they were blown out of the sky by a
combination of Zero fighters and AA hits before even getting close to Akagi.
There was just one survivor.
.P Next on the scene were fourteen Devastators from Enterprise. Just four managed
to make it back to their carrier and their attack on Hiryu achieved not one hit.
Another Devastator attack, this time from Yorktown, cost ten out of twelve
aircraft. Things were going badly for the American airmen; but events were about
to change rather dramatically.
.P At 1020hrs, the next aircraft to arrive were Dauntless dive-bombers from
Enterprise and Yorktown. The sacrifice of the torpedo bomber crews was not to be
in vain as although they had not achieved hits on the Japanese carriers, they had
pulled the Zero fighter cover out of position. As a result, there was little to
stop the dive-bombers that were about to fall on the carriers. The first target
was Kaga. The thinly armoured Japanese carriers were vulnerable to bombs at the
best of times, but with fully armed and fuelled aircraft on their deck ready to
take-off, they only needed a single hit to turn them into fireballs.
.P Kaga was hit no less than four times and she was almost immediately on fire
the full length of the ship. It would take until the early evening for her to
slip beneath the waves, but she had been put out of action when the first bomb
had landed on her crowded flight-deck. Nagumo`s Flagship suffered a similar fate
as two bombs tore into Akagi`s aircraft awaiting take-off. One of these bombs
caused the aft lift to collapse onto the hangar deck, causing further explosions
amongst the Second Wave aircraft there being readied for launch. Nagumo survived
and transferred to the light cruiser Nagara, but his thoughts at that moment can
only be imagined. His Flagship was scuttled early the next morning by torpedoes
from a destroyer. The story on Soryu was much the same; three bombs, huge fires,
and a ship that finally sank only in the early evening, having been abandoned
many hours before.
.P One of the fleet carriers had managed to avoid the carnage, and aircraft from
Hiryu were launched at 1100hrs to attack the Yorktown which had remained under
surveillance since the initial sighting. Eighteen "Val" dive-bombers were sent to
attack with an escort of six Zeros. Although Yorktown was able to counter with a
large number of fighters and a heavy AA barrage, five aircraft got through; three
of whom hit their target. The superb damage control parties did their job, and
soon the carrier was patched up. The Japanese launched a second strike soon
after, although they could muster only ten "Kate" torpedo bombers and six more
Zeros. Once more, five survivors from the AA and fighter screen got through to
Yorktown. Lt Tomonaga crashed his aircraft onto the flight-deck and two torpedoes
found the port side of the American carrier. But still the Yorktown would not
die. She had been abandoned after the second strike, but by the next morning it
was thought she could be saved. Despite two torpedoes and four bombs (including
one at the Coral Sea), the Japanese naval air arm had not been able to sink this
remarkably defiant ship. Sadly however, her fate was to be sunk; albeit at the
hands of a Japanese submarine rather than the Japanese naval air arm.
.P I-168 had been one of the submarines ineffectively deployed off Midway Island,
but she was now ordered to destroy Yorktown. At 1300hrs on the 6th June, she
launched four torpedoes, hitting the damaged carrier with two, while a third slammed
into the destroyer Hamman that was moored next to the carrier, assisting with the
salvage work. The destroyer sank immediately, but even with two more torpedoes
having hit her, Yorktown only finally sank in the early morning of the 7th June!
.P Yorktown had at least managed to outlive Nagumo`s last remaining fleet
carrier. Hiryu sank at 0820hrs on the 5th June having been found the previous
afternoon by US aircraft. At just after 1700hrs, she was attacked by aircraft
from both Enterprise and Hornet and four bombs, all dropped by Dauntless dive-
bombers, slammed into the remaining carrier. With Hiryu gone, Yamamoto`s last
hope of salvaging something from the Midway operation had disappeared. For Japan,
the war was now quite simply un-winnable...if indeed it ever had been otherwise.

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RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land - 11/29/2009 9:11:49 PM   
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...and now a "what if" battleship - I`m not certain whether she started WWII with 16 or 21 5-inch guns. Any help would be appreciated.

[4107 Wyoming - by Robert Jenkins]
.B Engine(s) output: 28,000 hp
.B Top Speed: 21 knots
.B Main armament: 12 x 12-inch (305mm), 16 x 5-inch (127mm) guns
.B Displacement (full load): 30,610 tons
.B Thickest armour: 11-inch (belt)
.P The Wyoming-class numbered two battleships that were designed and
built for the United States Navy (USN) in the years leading up to the First World
War. Both ships were laid down in early 1910 and completed in September 1912.
.P The preceeding three USN battleship classes were constructed with a 12-inch
main armament, and during the design stage for the Wyomings it was debated
whether a higher calibre should be fitted given that a 13.5-inch gun was believed
to be under development by the Royal Navy. Ultimately it was decided to continue
with the smaller gun, not least because of the delays that would be caused by
waiting for the 14-inch gun then being designed. However in compensation, the
Wyomings were around 20% bigger and contained an extra twin turret compared to
the preceeding Florida-class.
.P The USN were able to modernise most of their older ships during the inter-war
years and the Wyomings were no exception. They were converted to oil fired
boilers, having originally been a mix of oil and coal, but top speed remained a
lowly 21 knots; too slow compared to the fast battleships that would arrive in
the thirties.
.P The main and secondary armament remained essentially the same as the original
design, but additional anti-aircraft (AA) armament was added to Arkansas during
the Second World War.
.P Armour protection was beefed up, and to provide horizontal protection, a 3.5-
inch armour deck was added together with a 1.75-inch deck further down. Anti-
torpedo protection was also improved thanks to the adding of bulges.
.P Aircraft facilities were added by fitting a catapult to the midships turret.
.P In line with naming convention of the time, these battleships - Wyoming and
Arkansas - were named after states of the US. Both ships of the class operated
with the Royal Navy in World War I, after the US had joined the Allies in 1917, but
Wyoming was not to see active service in World War II. Under the terms of the 1922
Washington Naval Treaty, she was de-militarized and became a gunnery training
ship. Plans were made to convert her back into a battleship early in the war but
ultimately, such a conversion was not considered worthwhile.
.P As a result, in World In Flames USS Wyoming is a "what if" counter that starts
in the Construction Pool, so giving the US player the option of "performing that
conversion".
.P USS Wyoming was scrapped in 1947.

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RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land - 11/29/2009 9:20:24 PM   
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[/quote] Deleted - mistake


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RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land - 12/1/2009 10:09:24 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: warspite1
...and now a "what if" battleship - I`m not certain whether she started WWII with 16 or 21 5-inch guns. Any help would be appreciated.


quote:

.P As a result, in World In Flames USS Wyoming is a "what if" counter that starts
in the Construction Pool, so giving the US player the option of "performing that
conversion".
.P USS Wyoming was scrapped in 1947.

ADG data says about the Wyoming that it is the "Version (Training Ship) shown at start of 1936. Reconversion to BB briefly considered."
ADG data says that it is equipped with 12 x 12-inch (305mm), 16 x 5-inch (127mm) guns, 26066 tons.
From the data, it looks like it is a sister ship of the Arkansas.




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RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land - 12/1/2009 10:13:12 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: warspite1

Next US carrier class with a completed write-up is the Yorktown-class. Please see the Yorktown herself which feature the Battle of Midway.

[4056 Yorktown - by Robert Jenkins]

Ah... The Yorktown...




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RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land - 12/1/2009 11:59:40 PM   
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Yorktown had at least managed to outlive Nagumo`s last remaining fleet
carrier. Hiryu sank at 0820hrs on the 5th June having been found the previous
afternoon by US aircraft
. At just after 1700hrs, she was attacked by aircraft
from both Enterprise and Hornet and four bombs, all dropped by Dauntless dive-
bombers, slammed into the remaining carrier

not clear if it is Hiryu that was attacked or the Yorktown that is finished off by american planes. bold looks like a inserted sentence

y





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RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land - 12/2/2009 7:13:46 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Froonp

quote:

ORIGINAL: warspite1
...and now a "what if" battleship - I`m not certain whether she started WWII with 16 or 21 5-inch guns. Any help would be appreciated.


quote:

.P As a result, in World In Flames USS Wyoming is a "what if" counter that starts
in the Construction Pool, so giving the US player the option of "performing that
conversion".
.P USS Wyoming was scrapped in 1947.

ADG data says about the Wyoming that it is the "Version (Training Ship) shown at start of 1936. Reconversion to BB briefly considered."
ADG data says that it is equipped with 12 x 12-inch (305mm), 16 x 5-inch (127mm) guns, 26066 tons.
From the data, it looks like it is a sister ship of the Arkansas.




Warspite1

Thanks - I will keep with sixteen 5-inch.




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RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land - 12/2/2009 7:23:50 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: michaelbaldur

Yorktown had at least managed to outlive Nagumo`s last remaining fleet
carrier. Hiryu sank at 0820hrs on the 5th June having been found the previous
afternoon by US aircraft
. At just after 1700hrs, she was attacked by aircraft
from both Enterprise and Hornet and four bombs, all dropped by Dauntless dive-
bombers, slammed into the remaining carrier

not clear if it is Hiryu that was attacked or the Yorktown that is finished off by american planes. bold looks like a inserted sentence

y


Warspite1

Okay how about:

.P Yorktown had at least managed to outlive Nagumo`s last remaining fleet
carrier, which had sunk at 0820hrs on the 5th June, having been found the previous
afternoon by US aircraft. At just after 1700hrs, Hiryu was attacked by aircraft
from both Enterprise and Hornet and four bombs, all dropped by Dauntless dive-
bombers, slammed into the remaining carrier. With Hiryu gone, Yamamoto`s last
hope of salvaging something from the Midway operation had disappeared. For Japan,
the war was now quite simply un-winnable...if indeed it ever had been otherwise.


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RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land - 12/4/2009 10:08:26 PM   
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HELP REQUIRED PLEASE

I am trying to find out the main details - particularly the main and secondary armament but the other technical details too - for the California and Maryland class battleships both just pre Pearl Harbor and after their reconstruction. Can anyone assist please? When talking about the 5-inch gun I need to know whether this is the 51, 25 or 38 too.

My usual source - Conways - seems confused between pre-Pearl and post.

Thanks

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RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land - 12/5/2009 7:24:17 AM   
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HELP REQUIRED PLEASE

I am trying to find out the main details - particularly the main and secondary armament but the other technical details too - for the California and Maryland class battleships both just pre Pearl Harbor and after their reconstruction. Can anyone assist please? When talking about the 5-inch gun I need to know whether this is the 51, 25 or 38 too.

My usual source - Conways - seems confused between pre-Pearl and post.

Thanks

ADG Data :
California
Version shown after Pearl Harbor reconstruction.
34,858 tons
Max speed : 20,5 knots
Range : 12,100 nm at 15 knots
Length : 190.2 m
12 x 14-inch, 16 x 5-inch, 56 x 40 mm AA guns, 80 x 20 mm AA guns
Crew : 2375
Max belt armor : 13.5 inch
Min belt armor : 8 inch
Max deck armor : 6.5 inch
Min deck armor : 5.5 inch
Max turret armor : 18 inch
Min turret armor : ? inch

Maryland
Version shown at start of 1936.
32,600 tons
Max speed : 21 knots
Range : 8,000 nm at 10 knots
Length : 190.2 m
8 x 16-inch, 14 x 5-inch, 4 x 3-inch
2 x 21-inch torpedo tubes
Crew : 1080
Max belt armor : 13.5 inch
Min belt armor : 8 inch
Max deck armor : 3.5 inch
Min deck armor : 3.5 inch
Max turret armor : 18 inch
Min turret armor : 5 inch

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RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land - 12/6/2009 8:43:53 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Froonp

quote:

ORIGINAL: warspite1

HELP REQUIRED PLEASE

I am trying to find out the main details - particularly the main and secondary armament but the other technical details too - for the California and Maryland class battleships both just pre Pearl Harbor and after their reconstruction. Can anyone assist please? When talking about the 5-inch gun I need to know whether this is the 51, 25 or 38 too.

My usual source - Conways - seems confused between pre-Pearl and post.

Thanks

ADG Data :
California
Version shown after Pearl Harbor reconstruction.
34,858 tons
Max speed : 20,5 knots
Range : 12,100 nm at 15 knots
Length : 190.2 m
12 x 14-inch, 16 x 5-inch, 56 x 40 mm AA guns, 80 x 20 mm AA guns
Crew : 2375
Max belt armor : 13.5 inch
Min belt armor : 8 inch
Max deck armor : 6.5 inch
Min deck armor : 5.5 inch
Max turret armor : 18 inch
Min turret armor : ? inch

Maryland
Version shown at start of 1936.
32,600 tons
Max speed : 21 knots
Range : 8,000 nm at 10 knots
Length : 190.2 m
8 x 16-inch, 14 x 5-inch, 4 x 3-inch
2 x 21-inch torpedo tubes
Crew : 1080
Max belt armor : 13.5 inch
Min belt armor : 8 inch
Max deck armor : 3.5 inch
Min deck armor : 3.5 inch
Max turret armor : 18 inch
Min turret armor : 5 inch

Warspite1

I think I will layout the ships technical spec and comment upon this as at the start of the war and then mention the various re-builds post Pearl-Harbor within the write-up of each ship. Its all too complicated to do anything else.

Please see proposed intros for the two battleship classes I was having difficulty with:

[4073 California - by Robert Jenkins]
.B Engine output: 26,800hp
.B Top Speed: 21 knots
.B Main armament: 12 x 14-inch (356mm), 14 x 5-inch (127mm) guns
.B Displacement (full load): 33,190 tons
.B Thickest armour: 13.5-inch (belt)
.P The Tennessees were a class of two battleships built for the United States
Navy (USN) between 1916 to 1921. They were built to a similar design to the New
Mexicos, but featured modifications, particularly to their underwater protection.
As the penultimate class of battleship to be built before the battleship building
holiday began (as a result of the 1922 Washington Naval Treaty), the two ships of
the class were amongst the five most modern battleships of the USN at the time
the Second World War broke out in Europe.
.P The class did not receive a comprehensive pre-war modernisation program,
although detail improvements were made over time. Only after their design had
been finalised did the USN become aware of the Royal Navy`s 15-inch gunned Queen
Elizabeth-class and therefore the Tennessees continued with a 14-inch main
armament.
.P As with the New Mexicos, the secondary armament was altered so that by the
outbreak of the war in Europe, it consisted of fourteen 5-inch guns and eight of
the 5-inch/25 gun for anti-aircraft (AA) defence.
.P These battleships kept to the same levels of armour protection as the New
Mexicos and so featured a 3.5-inch main armour deck and a 13.5-inch belt. They
were the first class to fit an improved anti-torpedo defence, that featured a
series of void and liquid filled compartments to absorb torpedo hits.
.P Like all USN battleships of the period, the Tennessees were slow ships, with a
top speed of just 21 knots.
.P In line with naming convention of the time, these battleships - Tennessee and
California - were named after states of the US.

.P UNDER CONSTRUCTION

[4084 Maryland - by Robert Jenkins]
.B Engine output: 28,900 hp
.B Top Speed: 21 knots
.B Main armament: 8 x 16-inch (406mm), 14 x 5-inch (127mm) guns
.B Displacement (full load): 33,590 tons
.B Thickest armour: 13.5-inch (belt)
.P The Colorados were originally to be a class of four battleships. However,
one of the ships was not completed as a result of the provisions of the 1922
Washington Naval Treaty. The class were built for the United States Navy (USN)
between 1917 and 1923, and this was the last battleship class built before the
building holiday imposed by the 1922 Treaty.
.P The class were constructed to a similar design to the Tennessees, but with a 16-
inch main armament, fitted in response to the Royal Navy`s building of the 15-
inch gunned Queen Elizabeth-class.
.P The class did not receive a comprehensive pre-war modernisation program,
although detail improvements were made over time. The secondary armament was
altered so that by the outbreak of the war in Europe, it consisted of fourteen
5-inch guns and eight of the 5-inch/25 gun for anti-aircraft (AA) defence.
.P These battleships kept to the same levels of armour protection as the
Tennessees and so featured a 3.5-inch main armour deck and a 13.5-inch belt. They
were fitted with an improved anti-torpedo defence, that featured a series of void
and liquid filled compartments to absorb torpedo hits.
.P Like all USN battleships of the period, the Colorados were slow ships, with a
top speed of just 21 knots.
.P In line with naming convention of the time, these battleships - Colorado,
Maryland and West Virginia - were named after states of the US.

.P UNDER CONSTRUCTION




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RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land - 12/6/2009 1:52:05 PM   
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Just an FYI, I believe the Maryland was the first BB to make it out of Pearl after the attacks.

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RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land - 12/6/2009 8:13:30 PM   
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And now for the story of the Houston....

[4126 Houston - by Robert Jenkins]
.B Engine Output: 107,000 hp
.B Top Speed: 32.5 knots
.B Main armament: 9 x 8-inch (203mm), 4 x 5-inch (127mm) guns
.B Displacement (full load): 11,420 tons
.B Thickest armour: 3-inch (belt)
.P Quickly following on from the preceding Pensacola-class, the Northamptons
were the second heavy cruiser class built for the United States Navy (USN).
They rectified some of the problems found with the Pensacolas but by no means
all. Six ships were built between 1928 and 1931, three of which were fitted out
to undertake the flagship role.
.P The main armament differed from the Pensacolas by reducing the number of
turrets from four to three. Partial compensation was achieved by making all three
turrets triple barrelled and so their broadside was only reduced by one.
.P Anti-aircraft (AA) defence was initially provided by four 5-inch/25 guns and
this was increased to eight prior to the outbreak of war. The AA armament was
further upgraded for the three surviving ships as the war progressed. Up to four
aircraft could be carried. The ships were originally fitted with six torpedo
tubes, but these were removed before hostilities commenced.
.P Armour protection was marginally increased compared to the Pensacolas with a
0.5-inch increase in the belt armour. The 1-inch armour deck remained, but the
armour covering the magazines was increased to 2-inches. Barbette protection was
doubled.
.P In line with naming convention, these cruisers were named after cities of the
United States.
.P USS Houston was based in the Philippines at the start of December 1941. After
the attack on Pearl Harbor she was ordered to sail to the Australian port of Darwin to
escort merchant vessels from Java. After the initial early success of the Japanese, in
January 1942 the Allies set up ABDA; American, British, Dutch, Australian Command
under the British General Wavell. The naval forces were placed under the command
of the American Admiral Hart, based in Java. The command was
made of up of whatever was to hand as the Allies sought to stem the Japanese
whirlwind sweeping through Malaya and threatening the Philippines, Singapore and
the Dutch East Indies. Houston`s first action with ABDA force was at the Battle
of Makassar Strait on the 4th February 1942. This was an action to try and attack
a Japanese invasion convoy but was unsuccessful due to Japanese air superiority.
During the battle, Houston took a bomb hit that wrecked her aft turret (see USS
Marblehead).
.P Just over a week later Houston was deployed with the destroyer Peary and two
Australian sloops in escorting a convoy of troop transports that were trying to
reinforce the island of Timor. However, with the Japanese fully in control of the
skies, the convoy had to be recalled; nothing was going right for the men of ABDA
command. Houston was then ordered to sail for Tjilatjap, southern Java in order
to join up with Rear-Admiral Doorman and his scratch force of Dutch, British and
American cruisers and destroyers. From there, on the 24th, Houston was ordered to
Soerbaya, in the north-east of the island.
.P On the evening of the 26th, Doorman sailing in his Flagship, the light cruiser
HNLMS De Ruyter, left Soerbaya accompanied by the heavy cruisers Houston and HMS
Exeter, the light cruisers HNLMS Java and HMAS Perth and nine destroyers. They had
received reports of Japanese activity off Java, but a search revealed nothing and the
force returned having come under air attack.
.P However, no sooner had the ships returned than Doorman received another report
about Japanese invasion forces heading for Java, and he sailed at once to try and
intercept. What developed over the next few hours became known as the Battle of
the Java Sea; and resulted in ABDA force effectively ceasing to exist.
.P The Japanese convoy was escorted by two heavy cruisers, Nachi and Haguro, two
light cruisers, Naka and Jintsu and fourteen destroyers, under the command of
Rear-Admiral Nishimura. The Japanese cruisers had the edge in the number of 8-
inch guns and this problem was made worse for Doorman thanks to the
damage to Houston`s aft turret. What made the Japanese particularly deadly was
the Long Lance torpedo that they were able to deploy.
.P The one goal for Doorman was to get at the troop transports and so disrupt the
Japanese invasion plans. However, try as they might, the Allied ships could not
get at their target. The two forces found each other on the afternoon of the 27th
and battle commenced at 1616hrs at extreme range. Just under an hour into the
battle, in a moment typical of the Allied luck that affected their whole
campaign, Exeter was removed from the battle. She was struck by a shell
that hit one of her boiler rooms, reducing her speed. She was ordered to
withdraw, escorted by the Dutch destroyer De Witte.
.P The next phase of the battle saw the Japanese launch a mass torpedo attack as
the range between the two forces closed. The deadly Long Lance torpedoes proved
their worth, sinking the Dutch destroyer Kortenaer with a single torpedo. She
broke in two and quickly sank. She was followed by the Royal Navy destroyer
Electra.
.P With things going from bad to worse, Doorman broke off at 1800hrs, harassed
by enemy aircraft. The four US destroyers had to return to Java as they had run
out of torpedoes and a second British destroyer, Jupiter hit a mine and sank at
2125hrs. Despite the losses, Doorman decided to try and get to the enemy convoy
once more and at 2300hrs, fire was once more exchanged. Once more the Long Lance
torpedoes were to prove fatal to Allied hopes; both De Ruyter and Java were hit
by this fearsome weapon. The two remaining cruisers, Houston and Perth retreated
to Tanjong Priok in the north-west of Java, arriving in the early afternoon of
the 28th.
.P For both, the reprieve was but temporary. They put to sea at 1900hrs, both
short of ammunition and fuel, and ordered to head for Tjilatjap. Perth`s Captain
Waller took command of the two ship flotilla as he was senior to Captain Rooks in
Houston. The cruisers had no destroyers to escort them as there was only one such
ship - the Dutch, Evertsen - left, and she was not ready in time to sail with
them. This lack of destroyer escort would prove crucial to the events about to
unfold.
.P The cruisers sailed westward toward the Sunda Strait, that separated the
islands of Java and Sumatra. At 2200hrs, at the entrance to the Strait, they
came across an invasion convoy that was taking Japanese troops to land in Western
Java. The convoy was defended by a light carrier and numerous cruisers and
destroyers, although for close escort the convoy could call on only the light
cruiser Natori and eight destroyers. The fifty-ship invasion convoy presented the
Allied ships with a most unexpected, but highly important target but they could
hardly have been in a worse position to take advantage of the fact; but that did
not stop the Americans and Australians from having a go.
.P What became the Battle of the Sunda Strait began just after 1100hrs, when the
cruisers opened fire on the Japanese destroyer Harukaze. They were then subjected
to a torpedo attack launched from Fubuki, but the torpedoes were avoided. The
Natori arrived with five destroyers shortly afterwards, and a fire fight broke
out. The Allied cruisers found their targets, damaging two of the Japanese
destroyers, and the enemy ships had to make smoke and withdraw. At around 1120hrs
the heavy cruisers Mikuma and Mogami arrived to assist the lighter forces and
this enabled the destroyers to get in close for torpedo attacks. Perth and
Houston were running out of ammunition but bravely fought on, giving at least as
good as they got. On board Houston, the crew were having to carry shells from the
useless aft turret to the forward guns which had fired until there was nothing
left in their magazines.
.P Despite this valiant effort, sheer weight of numbers told in the end and there
were simply too many enemy to keep at bay. The Japanese launched wave after wave
of torpedoes from both their destroyers and their cruisers and at 0025hrs, Perth
finally succumbed. Just eight minutes later, Houston was dead in the water and
she sank twenty minutes after Perth. Over 1,000 officers and men from the two
cruisers perished, of which almost 700 were from Houston. Many of the survivors
were later to die at the hands of the Japanese whilst prisoners of war.
.P By way of compensation, four Japanese transports had been sunk by friendly
fire, but this was of little comfort as the invasion of western Java was not
halted as a result.


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RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land - 12/6/2009 10:13:29 PM   
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"What became the Battle of the Sunda Strait began just after 1100hrs..."

I recently read "Ghost Ship" about the USS Houston and although I don't have the book handy, it seemed to me the battle of Sunda Strait was entirely at night, plus if they put to sea at 19:00 and entered the Strait at 22:00, then the battle must have begun just after 23:00 hours. There is a further reference to 1120 that ought to be 2320 as well.


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RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land - 12/6/2009 10:27:15 PM   
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ORIGINAL: paulderynck

"What became the Battle of the Sunda Strait began just after 1100hrs..."

I recently read "Ghost Ship" about the USS Houston and although I don't have the book handy, it seemed to me the battle of Sunda Strait was entirely at night, plus if they put to sea at 19:00 and entered the Strait at 22:00, then the battle must have begun just after 23:00 hours. There is a further reference to 1120 that ought to be 2320 as well.

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Thank-you. I am of course guilty of mixing up my 24-hour clock with a 12-hour half way through a story.... Amendments duly made



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RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land - 12/8/2009 8:38:37 PM   
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having done the legendary Yorktown and the Lady Lex, its back to the Royal Navy and the carrier Victorious.

[4550 Victorious - by Robert Jenkins]
.B Engine(s) output: 110,000 hp
.B Top Speed: 30.5 knots
.B Main armament: 16 x 4.5-inch (114mm) guns and 48 x 2-pdr pom-poms
.B Aircraft: 36
.B Displacement (full load): 28,620 tons
.B Thickest armour: 4.5-inch (belt)
.P This class of aircraft carrier built for the Royal Navy (RN) between 1937
and 1944 numbered six ships, split into three groups. The first group contained
three ships, Illustrious, Formidable and Victorious; the second just one ship,
Indomitable; and the third, two ships, Indefatigable and Implacable.
.P The original design called for a displacement of 23,000 tons, 4,000 tons below
the then current limit as the British were hoping to get agreement for the lower
figure at the next naval conference. However, even when the treaty limitations
expired, the remaining ships of the class still to be built were kept to roughly the
same weight on the grounds of cost and speed of completion; although modifications
were made to subsequent ships.
.P Despite the 1,000 ton increase in weight compared to the earlier Ark Royal,
aircraft capacity was reduced by almost half due to the requirement for a 3-inch
armoured flight deck and an armoured box around the hangar. Aircraft capacity
ranged from thirty-six in the earlier group, to sixty in the later ships, although by
the time these ships were part of the British Pacific Fleet in late 1944, the capacity
had risen to between fifty, for the earlier ships and eighty, for the latter. This was
achieved through the use of outriggers and deck parks.
.P The cost in weight of the extra armour meant that the first three ships had
one hangar only. Indomitable was then ordered with a view to increasing aircraft
capacity and so a reduction in hangar side armour was made to allow the addition
of a half hangar. The last two ships added a second full hangar, but in an
effort not to increase displacement, a restriction in hangar height of 14ft was
made. A consequence of this decision was that later in the war, Corsair fighters
could not be carried. Another major drawback of this design, particularly when
operating far from port, was the limited aviation fuel storage which limited
sorties to five per aircraft in the later ships.
.P Each ship had two lifts, with the latter three ships incorporating a slightly
larger type. The catapult in the earlier ships catered for aircraft of 14,000lbs
at 66 knots, while the later two ships could operate 16,000lb aircraft. Anti-
aircraft (AA) defence was similar to the Ark Royal-class and consisted of eight
twin 4.5-inch guns. Close-range armament differed from ship to ship and was
increased during the war.
.P In line with naming convention, these ships were given "inspiring" names that
gave at least a hint of the RN`s past glories - even if the reality was that by 1939
the United Kingdom`s financial and industrial situation meant that the RN`s
undoubted domination of the sea was but a distant memory.
.P HMS Victorious was completed in May 1941 and was deployed with the Home Fleet
for work-up. Her first operation was supposed to see her sail with the military
convoy WS8B and, having detached from that convoy, sail for Gibraltar, where she
was to deliver aircraft bound for Malta. For this operation she was loaded with
Royal Air Force (RAF) fighters, meaning that she carried a much reduced Fleet Air
Arm (FAA) component. At this time the German battleship Bismarck and the heavy
cruiser Prinz Eugen had broken out into the Atlantic and after they had sunk the
battlecruiser HMS Hood, the Home Fleet and all available RN ships were deployed
with one objective; sink the Bismarck. This included Victorious and she was
therefore deployed for the search with just a handful of her own aircraft aboard.
During the search she launched an attack on the Bismarck using nine Swordfish,
bi-plane torpedo bombers, but the one torpedo that hit the battleship, did little
damage (see HMS Hood).
.P She played no further part in the destruction of Bismarck and after the German
ship was sunk by units of the Home Fleet (see HMS Rodney), Victorious finally got
to escort WS8B. Whilst en route, her aircraft carried out reconnaissance flights
to search for German supply ships and one of these, the Gozzenheim, was
intercepted and sunk by the cruiser Neptune as a result. Victorious then detached
from the convoy with Neptune and sailed for Gibraltar. At the beginning of June
Ark Royal and Victorious, escorted by the battlecruiser Renown and seven
destroyers, sailed for Malta to deliver the RAF aircraft. Forty-five of the forty
-eight fighters made it safely to the island.
.P Following the German invasion of the Soviet Union on June 22nd, the RN`s first
operation to assist their new ally was Operation EF. This was a carrier based
attack by the FAA on the ports of Kirkenes and Petsamo in July. The targets lay
in the far north of Norway and Finland respectively and the plan involved the
carriers Victorious and Furious; the cruisers Suffolk and Devonshire; the fast
minelayer Adventure and four destroyers. Adventure sailed with the fleet before
detaching and continuing alone to Archangel after the flying-off point had been
reached. The carriers then split into two groups, with Furious tasked with the
attack on Petsamo. Two attacks were launched, using nine Albacore torpedo bombers
and three Fulmar fighters in the first strike, and nine Swordfish and three
Fulmars in the second. The harbour was almost empty at the time and the enemy
flak was heavy. For little damage to the enemy, one Albacore and one Fulmar were
lost. However, worse was to follow at Kirkenes as the Luftwaffe, which had
previously been alerted to the presence of the RN ships, were waiting with Me-109
fighters. Victorious flew off twenty Albacores and nine Fulmars for the attack
and for the sinking of two vessels, damage to the port and three enemy aircraft
shot down, they lost eleven Albacores and two Fulmars with many more planes
damaged. 827 Naval Air Squadron (NAS) had been decimated in the attack. On the
return journey, Furious transferred her operational aircraft to Victorious and
returned home due to a shortage of fuel. Aircraft from Victorious then attacked
the port of Tromso, losing one aircraft in the process.
.P In August, Victorious provided distant cover for the first Arctic convoy to
the Soviet Union, and a follow up aircraft delivery mission by the old carrier
Argus (see HMS Suffolk). On the return journey she launched air strikes against
the port of Tromso but to little effect. Then, at the start of October, she was
escorted by the battleship King George V, the cruiser Penelope and six
destroyers as part of another air strike mission against coastal shipping, this
time in northern Norway. This operation resulted in the destruction of over
10,000 tons of shipping.
.P In November, Victorious was deployed with the Home Fleet after a report that
the battleship Tirpitz was about to attempt a break-out into the North Atlantic
(see HMS King George V); this proved to be a false alarm. Victorious remained
deployed with the Home Fleet into the early months of 1942, although she was
involved in no major operations during that time.
.P In February 1942, the Kriegsmarine launched Operation Cerberus. This was an
operation designed to get the battlecruisers Scharnhorst and Gneisenau and the
Prinz Eugen back to Germany from France via the English Channel. Victorious took
no part in this operation but the episode is mentioned here in order that the
story of Lt-Cdr Eugene Esmonde, a Victoria Cross winner, may be told. Esmonde was
the man that had launched the attack from Victorious against the Bismarck (see
above and HMS Rodney) the previous May. His squadron, 825 NAS was subsequently
embarked on Ark Royal before being effectively disbanded after the latters
sinking that November. 825 NAS was reformed in January 1942 and was based in the
south of England with Lt-Cdr Esmonde as its commander.
.P When the German ships were spotted trying to make their "Channel Dash", six
Swordfish, led by Esmonde, were tasked with trying to stop them. On 12th February
the six old FAA torpedo bombers took off as the German ships were entering the
Straits of Dover. On the way to the target, the aircraft were attacked by German
fighters and they became separated from their fighter escort. Despite this set-
back, Esmonde and his small force continued to fly toward the enemy ships. They
flew through a barrage of AA fire put up by the enemy ships and their escorts.
Esmonde`s aircraft was hit twice, the first hit smashing into his port wing, and
the second, causing his plane to crash into the sea. The remaining aircraft
pressed ahead regardless and each one was in turn knocked out of the sky. There
were just 5 survivors from the 18 airmen. The courage and bravery of these men
was not lost on the Germans. Admiral Ciliax, in the Scharnhorst, described "The
mothball attack of a handful of ancient planes, piloted by men whose bravery
surpasses any other action by either side that day". For his actions that day,
Esmonde was awarded the Victoria Cross, the highest award for bravery in the face
of the enemy.
.P At the end of February, the Germans moved the Prinz Eugen and Admiral Scheer
to northern Norway to join the Tirpitz. Victorious was tasked with trying to
intercept the German ships, although she was unsuccessful (see Submarine Counter
4736). The presence of Tirpitz in Norwegian waters meant that the RN had to
employ a strong covering force for Arctic convoy PQ12 and future Arctic convoys
(see HMS Trinidad) and Victorious continued in this distant covering role until
July, covering all Arctic convoys during that time (see HMS Norfolk, ASW Canadian
Counter 4286 and ASW Carrier Counters 4701 and 4703).
.P In August, she was sent to the Mediterranean to take part in the most famous
of all convoys; the Malta relief convoy, Operation Pedestal (see HMS Sirius).
Victorious was hit by a bomb during this operation, although she was not
seriously damaged. Upon the successful completion of Pedestal, she returned to
the UK and was sent for a repairs ahead of her next deployment. This took her
back to the Mediterranean to cover the Allied invasion of North Africa; Operation
Torch (see HMS Delhi). Victorious was released from Torch as soon as the landings
were consolidated and she returned to the UK. During her return journey, she was
attacked by a U-boat which was destroyed by her aircraft.
.P In December, the RN agreed for Victorious to be lent to the US Navy to cover
recent losses to their fleet. She sailed with a destroyer escort on the 20th and
sailed for Pearl Harbor, which she reached in March. Victorious took part in
exercises with the USS Saratoga at the beginning of May, prior to her joining the
US Third Fleet. The two carriers were deployed in support of the landings on New
Georgia in August, before Victorious was released the following month and
returned to the UK.
.P She arrived home in mid-October and rejoined the Home Fleet. She was then sent
for a refit at the end of the year and upon completion she returned to the Home
Fleet. She took part in the attack on the battleship Tirpitz in April; Operation
Tungsten (see ASW Carrier Counter 4709). After the partial, but not total success
of Tungsten, the RN sought to follow-up with further strikes at Tirpitz. In May,
two further operations designed to destroy her had to be cancelled (see HMS
Anson) and Victorious was to have been part of both. She was not to get another
crack at the German ship though, as she was sent to the Far East to join the soon
to be formed British Pacific Fleet (BPF). She arrived in the Indian Ocean in July
and that same month took part in Operation Crimson. This was a carrier strike and
bombardment of enemy positions around Sabang, Sumatra (see HMNZS Gambia).
.P At the end of August, Victorious took part in two operations involving almost
the entire Eastern Fleet, Banquet and Boomerang. Banquet involved an air strike
against Padang, southern Sumatra and the latter was an air sea rescue operation
to assist US air force B-29 attacks against installations in northern Sumatra
(see HMS Ceylon). In September, Victorious was part of the small fleet that
carried out a diversionary raid against Sigli, northern Sumatra to try and assist
US forces about to assault Peleliu and Morotai (see HMS Howe). Then the following
month, she was part of Force 63 that undertook another diversionary operation;
Millet, against the Japanese held Nicobar Islands. This operation was designed to
try and assist the US forces attacking Leyte (see HMS Cumberland).
.P Victorious missed the BPF`s first operation, Robson, as a result of repairs
being required to her steering gear. After this set-back though, she played a key
role in the BPF`s Pacific war. She took part in the two subsequent operations
against Japanese held oil refineries on Sumatra; Lentil (see HMS Argonaut) and
Meridians One and Two (see HMS King George V). Sadly, during the latter operation
Victorious was hit by two shells from the cruiser Euryalus, causing many
casualties. These three attacks had been requested by the US Admiral Nimitz,
Commander-in-Chief of the US Pacific Fleet and were carried out by the BPF while
on their way to Australia. However, when the BPF arrived there, it was by no
means certain what, if any, role they would play.
.P Ultimately it was agreed that the BPF would operate as Task Force (TF) 57,
part of the US 5th Fleet. At the end of March they were tasked with assisting the
5th Fleet during the invasion of Okinawa. The BPF had a subsidiary operation;
Iceberg One, against Japanese airfields and installations on the Sakishima-Gunto
island chain, west of Okinawa (see HMS Swiftsure). After a period of
replenishment, TF57 returned for a repeat operation, Iceberg Two in May (see HMS
Howe). During both these operations, the fleet had been subjected to Kamikaze
strikes and all BPF carriers were hit at least once. However, their armoured
flight decks had saved them from destruction and kept them in the fight.
.P In June, the BPF sailed for replenishment once more and to prepare for the
final strikes against mainland Japan. Once more Victorious was a key part of the
fleet, which was now operating as TF37, part of the US 3rd Fleet. Victorious took
part in operations during July and August (see HMS Black Prince and HMS
Formidable). Problems with getting fuel to the fleet resulted in a much smaller
RN presence from the 12th August onwards, and Victorious was one of those that
headed back to Australia. Having fought with distinction in the Atlantic, the
Arctic, the Mediterranean, the Indian Ocean and the Pacific, her long war was
finally over.
.P HMS Victorious was scrapped in 1969.

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RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land - 12/9/2009 3:49:32 AM   
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Warspite: Very good on the Victorious. A couple of points

- I think the section on naming convention needs to be changed. They were chosen to follow the pattern and in some cases duplicate those of the WW1 battle-cruisers (inspiring was not appropriate in view of the loss of three at Jutland!). Also the comment on the RN 'past glory' is premature. At the time these ships were laid down it was still the most powerful navy in the world and had been notably successful in the war! It would be appropriate for a 1945 ship!

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RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land - 12/9/2009 5:34:00 AM   
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Warspite: Very good on the Victorious. A couple of points

- I think the section on naming convention needs to be changed. They were chosen to follow the pattern and in some cases duplicate those of the WW1 battle-cruisers (inspiring was not appropriate in view of the loss of three at Jutland!). Also the comment on the RN 'past glory' is premature. At the time these ships were laid down it was still the most powerful navy in the world and had been notably successful in the war! It would be appropriate for a 1945 ship!

Warspite1

Mariandavid - happy to review the naming convention but how would you describe the following words - Victorious, Illustrious, Indomitable, Formidable, Indefatigable and Implacable?

"Following the pattern from some of the WWI battlecruisers may be the right explanation" - (although other names were -Australia, New Zealand, Lion, Princess Royal, Queen Mary, Tiger). Three of the later battlecruisers became carriers after the war - Furious, Courageous and Glorious and I can say they followed this pattern, but I would group this set of words with the six above. Can someone come up with a better word that describes what these words convey than inspiring? Happy to use it if so.

I don`t think the fact three ships blew up is a reason to deny what a word means.

MORE than happy to re-word the paragraph re "past glory", although what I tried to convey was the sad truth - and I hate even writing this - that although the RN was - in 1939 - the largest navy, I think the most powerful is wrong.....but that is another story. By the way, I completely agree, the RN had a successful war and thanks to the professionalism of the officers and men of the senior service, they punched well above their weight, particularly given some of the ancient tubs they had to go to sea in.

I will have a think about that paragraph, but in the absence of any other suggestion I will use Inspiring and mention the three battlecruiser conversions. Thanks for the feedback





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RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land - 12/9/2009 5:59:47 AM   
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Okay - with thanks to Mariandavid - here is my suggested wording:


.P The ship names used for the class followed the pattern adopted in naming the
last three battlecruisers built for the RN; all three of which were converted to
carriers after the First world War. They were given "bold and inspiring" names;
names the six ships of the class more than lived up to during the Second World
War.

The above replaces that whole paragraph.

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RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land - 12/14/2009 9:42:30 PM   
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Deleted - question answered

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RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land - 12/15/2009 12:35:45 PM   
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Two amendments to spelling required:

The US cruiser Montpellier should be spelt Montpelier

The Japanese cruiser Niyoyodo should be spelt Niyodo

I have amended the naval master list only - but I think the counters should be amended too.

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RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land - 12/15/2009 6:35:10 PM   
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Two amendments to spelling required:

The US cruiser Montpellier should be spelt Montpelier

No no no, I live 150 km from the real Montpellier city, and it is spelled with 2 "l".
The US city is spelled the same way, so is the cruiser.

quote:

The Japanese cruiser Niyoyodo should be spelt Niyodo

I have amended the naval master list only - but I think the counters should be amended too.

Are you 1000 % sure for the Japanese cruiser ? It is built in 1942, maybe it is a "what if" cruiser.




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RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land - 12/15/2009 9:36:24 PM   
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quote:

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quote:

ORIGINAL: warspite1

Two amendments to spelling required:

The US cruiser Montpellier should be spelt Montpelier

No no no, I live 150 km from the real Montpellier city, and it is spelled with 2 "l".
The US city is spelled the same way, so is the cruiser.

quote:

The Japanese cruiser Niyoyodo should be spelt Niyodo

I have amended the naval master list only - but I think the counters should be amended too.

Are you 1000 % sure for the Japanese cruiser ? It is built in 1942, maybe it is a "what if" cruiser.





As far as I can see, all US cities are spelt MONTPELIER including Montpelier, Vermont, the city that USS Montpelier is named after. My core data source is Conways, and this tome - and others - spell USS Montpelier as just that.

I guess the French named both the Green Mountain state and its capital - Montpelier - in the first place, so if you think it should be spelt LL, well thats understandable . However, its not what the history/geography and reference books show!

I happen to think color is spelt colour and center is spelt centre, but hey, its up to the Americans what they do with the language we gave them

Niyoyodo or Niyodo IS a "what if" counter. She was the second projected vessel of the Oyodo-class, but whether she was officially named or not I cannot tell.

NIYODO is a river in Japan, which of course is what most, if not all Japanese cruisers were named after.


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RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land - 12/15/2009 10:28:17 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: warspite1

quote:

ORIGINAL: Froonp

quote:

ORIGINAL: warspite1

Two amendments to spelling required:

The US cruiser Montpellier should be spelt Montpelier

No no no, I live 150 km from the real Montpellier city, and it is spelled with 2 "l".
The US city is spelled the same way, so is the cruiser.

quote:

The Japanese cruiser Niyoyodo should be spelt Niyodo

I have amended the naval master list only - but I think the counters should be amended too.

Are you 1000 % sure for the Japanese cruiser ? It is built in 1942, maybe it is a "what if" cruiser.





As far as I can see, all US cities are spelt MONTPELIER including Montpelier, Vermont, the city that USS Montpelier is named after. My core data source is Conways, and this tome - and others - spell USS Montpelier as just that.

I guess the French named both the Green Mountain state and its capital - Montpelier - in the first place, so if you think it should be spelt LL, well thats understandable . However, its not what the history/geography and reference books show!

I happen to think color is spelt colour and center is spelt centre, but hey, its up to the Americans what they do with the language we gave them

Niyoyodo or Niyodo IS a "what if" counter. She was the second projected vessel of the Oyodo-class, but whether she was officially named or not I cannot tell.

NIYODO is a river in Japan, which of course is what most, if not all Japanese cruisers were named after.


OK my friend, it looks like you're right on both, so let's rename both.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Montpelier_(CL-57)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_cruiser_%C5%8Cyodo

Thanks for the enlightenment.

I was abused by the belief that Americans had not enough imagination to choose city names, and that was the reason for having multiple Cairo and Montpelier in the USA, but it looks like Americans also can't spell the original cities' names !!!

OF COURSE I AM JOKING !!!

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RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land - 12/15/2009 10:58:27 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Froonp

quote:

ORIGINAL: warspite1

quote:

ORIGINAL: Froonp

quote:

ORIGINAL: warspite1

Two amendments to spelling required:

The US cruiser Montpellier should be spelt Montpelier

No no no, I live 150 km from the real Montpellier city, and it is spelled with 2 "l".
The US city is spelled the same way, so is the cruiser.

quote:

The Japanese cruiser Niyoyodo should be spelt Niyodo

I have amended the naval master list only - but I think the counters should be amended too.

Are you 1000 % sure for the Japanese cruiser ? It is built in 1942, maybe it is a "what if" cruiser.





As far as I can see, all US cities are spelt MONTPELIER including Montpelier, Vermont, the city that USS Montpelier is named after. My core data source is Conways, and this tome - and others - spell USS Montpelier as just that.

I guess the French named both the Green Mountain state and its capital - Montpelier - in the first place, so if you think it should be spelt LL, well thats understandable . However, its not what the history/geography and reference books show!

I happen to think color is spelt colour and center is spelt centre, but hey, its up to the Americans what they do with the language we gave them

Niyoyodo or Niyodo IS a "what if" counter. She was the second projected vessel of the Oyodo-class, but whether she was officially named or not I cannot tell.

NIYODO is a river in Japan, which of course is what most, if not all Japanese cruisers were named after.


OK my friend, it looks like you're right on both, so let's rename both.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Montpelier_(CL-57)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_cruiser_%C5%8Cyodo

Thanks for the enlightenment.

I was abused by the belief that Americans had not enough imagination to choose city names, and that was the reason for having multiple Cairo and Montpelier in the USA, but it looks like Americans also can't spell the original cities' names !!!

OF COURSE I AM JOKING !!!

The typical approach to naming American cities was to add the word 'New' in front of the name of a city in Europe (the Old World): New York, New Orleans, ... and the same for the names of regions: New Hampshire, New Mexico, ... I guess a variation was to spell the city name slightly differently?

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RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land - 12/17/2009 10:30:59 PM   
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Two amendments to spelling required:

The US cruiser Montpellier should be spelt Montpelier

The Japanese cruiser Niyoyodo should be spelt Niyodo

I have amended the naval master list only - but I think the counters should be amended too.

Better ?




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RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land - 12/17/2009 10:31:24 PM   
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RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land - 12/18/2009 7:41:46 AM   
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ORIGINAL: warspite1

Two amendments to spelling required:

The US cruiser Montpellier should be spelt Montpelier

The Japanese cruiser Niyoyodo should be spelt Niyodo

I have amended the naval master list only - but I think the counters should be amended too.

Better ?




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RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land - 12/18/2009 7:42:25 AM   
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Better too ?




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RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land - 12/21/2009 10:36:53 PM   
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In celebration of my new Avatar - thanks Froonp - I thought I would finalise the write-up of the greatest battleship of them all - HMS Warspite (subject to any comment)

[4604 Warspite - by Robert Jenkins]
.B Engine(s) output: 80,000 hp
.B Top Speed: 24 knots
.B Main armament: 8 x 15-inch (381mm) guns, 8 x 6-inch (152mm) guns
.B Displacement (full load): 36,096 tons
.B Thickest armour: 13-inches (belt)
.P The Queen Elizabeths were a class of five World War I vintage battleships
that were developed from the Iron Duke class. A sixth ship, Agincourt, was
cancelled before being laid down.
.P For their main armament, they used a new, and as then untested, 15-inch gun
that was to prove a highly successful weapon. They were originally to have five
twin turrets, but by removing the centre turret, additional boilers could be
added to boost speed from 21 to 24 knots. This gave the Royal Navy (RN) the fast,
well armoured battle squadron that it desired and made these ships the most
powerful vessels afloat at their time of launch.
.P The speed of these ships was one of the key factors in ensuring that they
would be suitable for modernisation during the inter-war years, unlike the later
R-class. Three ships, Warspite, Valiant and Queen Elizabeth were substantially
reconstructed in the thirties, but financial and resource constraints meant that
the remaining two ships - Malaya and Barham - failed to receive the same level of
upgrade.
.P Having had bulges fitted to improve underwater protection in the twenties,
Warspite was the first of the class to receive a comprehensive overhaul; the work
taking place between 1934 and 1937. Improvements included the fitting of brand
new, smaller and lighter machinery which increased power and extended her range
by almost double the old figure to over 14,000 miles.
.P The main guns had their elevation increased; so extending their range by 30%
and the 6-inch secondary armament was reduced from twelve to eight guns by the
removal of the fore and aft guns. The anti-aircraft (AA) armament was entirely
new; four twin 4-inch guns and four 8-barrelled 2-pdr pompoms for close-range
cover.
.P The horizontal armour was greatly increased with a maximum thickness of 5.5-
inches over the magazines and 3.5-inches over the machinery spaces. This was not
ideal, but she was a good deal better protected than when first completed.
.P The biggest visual change was the completely new bridge and superstructure, as
a result of which, she was a remarkable vision of new (superstructure) meets old
(hull).
.P The names of the ships of the class had no common theme. Warspite, meaning "to
treat war with contempt" was originally used by the RN during the reign of Queen
Elizabeth I in the 16th Century.
.P HMS Warspite was completed in March 1915. She was destined to become one of
the best known warships in the long, proud history of the RN. She was a veteran
of the fleet encounter at Jutland. There, she survived a staggering twenty-nine
hits after her steering jammed and she sailed straight for the German
battlefleet. Curiously the steering malady would never entirely disappear. She
earned great affection within the fleet and at the end of her life, she became
known as the "Old Lady" although veterans prefer the title "Grand Old Lady".
.P At the outbreak of World War II she was deployed with Mediterranean Fleet but
the sinking of the Royal Oak at Scapa Flow, meant that she was ordered back to
the UK to join the Home Fleet. Having arrived at Gibraltar in early November, she
was diverted to Halifax, Canada to assist the escort of a large, homeward bound
convoy, HX.9. On the journey back to the UK she was ordered to detach from HX.9
and join the search for the German battlecruisers Scharnhorst and Gneisenau
following the sinking of the armed merchant cruiser Rawalpindi (see ASW Counter
4698). By the time Warspite arrived off Iceland, the enemy ships had made it back
home (see HMS Newcastle).
.P In December she became Flagship of the Home Fleet and was engaged in convoy
escort and patrol duty in northern waters. She remained in this role until April,
when she returned to the Mediterranean. However, she was recalled to the Home
Fleet in response to the German invasion of Norway.
.P As a result of the RN`s inability to stop the German invasion of Norway (see
HMS Valiant), their main task became helping Allied forces trying to stop the
conquest of the Scandanavian country. It must be remembered that although the RN
had failed to stop the Germans from landing, they and the Fleet Air Arm had
dealt the Kriegsmarine a number of blows during the course of the landings and
shortly after.
.P On the 10th May, Captain Warburton-Lee won the RN`s second V.C of the
Norwegian campaign during a set-piece destroyer action that became known as the
1st Battle of Narvik. Warburton-Lee commanded a force of five destroyers, Hardy,
Havoc, Hostile, Hotspur and Hunter. He led them in darkness through Ofotfjord,
where they attacked a force of ten larger German destroyers. Two enemy
destroyers, Wilhelm Heidkamp and Anton Schmidt, six cargo vessels and the
ammunition ship Rauenfels were sunk for the loss of Hardy and Hunter and severe
damage to Hotspur. This success was followed by Fleet Air arm Skuas, operating at
extreme range sinking the cruiser Konigsberg, and HM Submarines Truant,
Spearfish and Sterlet sinking the cruiser Karlsruhe, damaging the pocket-
battleship Lutzow and sinking the minelayer Brummer respectively. In addition,
numerous transports, tankers and other merchant vessels were sunk by the
submarine service (see Submarine Counter 4736).
.P On the same day as Warburton-Lee`s heroic action, Warspite had joined Admiral
Forbes Home Fleet in the North Sea. Three days later she led a force of nine
destroyers: Bedouin, Cossack, Eskimo, Forester, Foxhound, Hero, Icarus, Kimberley
and Punjabi, into Ofotfjord, the scene of the 1st Narvik battle, to deal with the
surviving eight enemy destroyers. What followed became known as the 2nd Battle of
Narvik. Warspite`s floatplane caught the U-64 on the surface and sank her. Then
three RN destroyers turned the Erich Koellner, which was guarding the entrance to
the fjord, into a blazing wreck. The RN ships then continued into the fjord.
Erich Geise met her end at the entrance to the harbour, followed by the Von
Roeder. Next, the Kunne beached herself before blowing up and the four remaining
German vessels retreated into Rombaksfjord, where they were beached. It was a
resounding victory for the RN. Warspite remained off Norway until the end of
April, taking part in bombardment operations in support of efforts to take the
port of Narvik. She was then relieved by the battleship Resolution (see HMS
Valiant and HMS Curlew).
.P With the threat of war with Italy looming, Warspite was then transferred back
to the Mediterranean. On the 11th June, as the Flagship of Vice-Admiral
Cunningham, she led the first Mediterranean Fleet sortie after the declaration of
war by Italy the previous day (see HMS Calypso). The following month saw Warspite
taking part in the Battle of Calabria, during which she hit the Italian
battleship Giulio Cesare from 26,000 yards, a record for naval gunnery against a
moving target (see HMS Royal Sovereign).
.P At the end of the month Warspite was again at sea with the fleet, covering
convoys in the Aegean (see HMS Capetown). On the 17th August, Warspite took part
in the bombardment of Italian positions at Bardia and Fort Capuzzo, Libya (see
HMS Malaya). Her next operation was HATS at the end of that month. This was an
operation to re-supply Malta and get reinforcements to the Mediterranean Fleet
(see HMS Calcutta).
.P At the end of September Warspite covered the cruisers Liverpool and Gloucester
as they delivered troops to Malta (see HMS Liverpool). She was then deployed with
the fleet as distant cover for convoys MF3 and MF4 (see HMS Calcutta). Warspite
took part in fleet operations in the Eastern Mediterranean in November (see HMS
Malaya) and later that month she was involved in Operation MB9 (see HMS
Despatch). The last month of the year saw Warspite involved in Operation MC2 (see
HMS Malaya) during which she and Valiant bombarded the Albanian port of Valona.
.P The New Year saw Warspite take part in the second bombardment of Bardia (see
HMS Terror) quickly followed by the important Operation Excess (see HMS
Southampton), during which she was very lightly damaged in an attack by the newly
arrived, crack German anti-shipping force, Fliegerkorps X. Following this, in
March Warspite covered the Lustre convoys that took the ill-fated Commonwealth
Expeditionary Force to Greece, and she also covered convoy MW6 to Malta (see HMS
Bonaventure). At the end of the month she played a key role in the successful
Battle of Cape Matapan that saw the sinking of three Italian heavy cruisers and
damage to the battleship Vittorio Veneto (see HMS Barham).
.P The following month, Warspite took part in covering two convoy operations (see
HMS Ajax) that included a shore bombardment mission against Tripoli. At the start
of May, Warspite was part of a complex operation that involved the sailing of the
famous Tiger convoy through the Mediterranean to Egypt (see Transport Counter
4729) and two convoys being sent to Malta from Alexandria. The Mediterranean
Fleet covered the latter two convoys and then the Tiger convoy once it had passed
Malta.
.P Warspite was sent to Crete in mid-May to cover the cruiser and destroyer
forces patrolling the island in an effort to stop the Germans reinforcing their
earlier airborne landings by sea (see HMS Fiji). During this action, Warspite`s
luck finally ran out. A force of three Messerschmitt 109`s in a fighter-bomber
role, attacked her west of the Kithera Channel and she was hit by a bomb which
caused extensive damage. Warspite returned to Alexandria for temporary repair
followed by permanent repairs in the USA.
.P The repair work was completed in December and in March 1942 she was ready to
take up duty as the Flagship of the 3rd Battle Squadron, Eastern Fleet in
company with the four remaining elderly R-class battleships. Warspite survived
Vice-Admiral Nagumo`s Indian Ocean raid in April due to the Eastern Fleet failing
to find the Japanese fleet (see HMS Cornwall). Two months later, following the
Battle of Midway, with four of Nagumo`s carriers at the bottom of the Pacific,
the Indian Ocean theatre suddenly became relatively quiet. The remaining months
of Warspite`s duty there was limited largely to convoy defence and she took part
in Operation Stab (see HMS Mauritius), a diversionary exercise in the Indian
Ocean. Before leaving the region, Warspite took part in Operation Stream (see
HMNZS Gambia), the operation to complete the conquest of the Vichy held island of
Madagascar.
.P In March Warspite returned to the UK for a refit and on completion she was
sent to the Mediterranean, where she arrived in mid-June. In July, she assisted
the landings on Sicily (see HMS Cleopatra) and the follow-up operations to
secure the island (see HMS Howe). Warspite remained in the Mediterranean to
assist the landings against mainland Italy at the end of August (see HMS Erebus)
and then in September, she covered the Allied landings at Salerno (see HMS
Abercrombie and HMCS Uganda). Whilst off Salerno on the 16th, she was badly
damaged when hit during a Glider Bomb attack. This resulted in severe flooding
and she had to withdraw from the action. There was a very real possibility that
she would not survive, but heroic efforts by her crew saw her eventually reach
Grand Harbour, Malta. After repair work in Malta and then Gibraltar, Warspite
returned to the UK. Because of other priorities, she was not fully repaired and
only had the use of three of her main turrets for the remainder of the war.
.P In June, Warspite provided support for the Allied landings in Normandy - D-Day
- as part of Bombarding Force D, Eastern Task Force (see HMS Ramillies). Two days
after the initial assault she was transferred to the Western Task Force area,
providing support off Utah Beach. She briefly returned to her original position
before returning to the UK for replenishment and to make good damage caused by
the incessant firing of her own guns. While en route home, she detonated a mine
that caused additional damage, although she was able to continue to port. Partial
repairs were carried out, but she was only able to achieve a speed of 15 knots
thereafter. Given that she was to be used for shore bombardment only this was not
an issue and after receiving a new outfit of 15-inch guns, Warspite returned to
Normandy in mid-August, remaining there until October.
.P Warspite`s last contribution in the Second World War took place in support of
the assault on Walcheren Island, Belgium. Here, along with the monitors Erebus
and Roberts, she bombarded the enemy shore batteries with three hundred and fifty
-three shells. Just before 0530hrs on 1st November 1944, her six remaining
serviceable 15-inch guns opened up for the last time. Warspite was then withdrawn
from service and placed in Reserve.
.P HMS Warspite was due to be scrapped in 1947. Despite protests that she should
be saved as a museum ship, she was destined for the breakers. Even then the Old
Lady had other ideas and whilst on route to the breaker’s yard, she ran aground
off Cornwall. Sadly, even Warspite could not cheat the end although her break-up
was not completed until 1956.


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