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RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land - 9/4/2010 8:42:21 AM   
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I have finalised the Chinese navy this morning - please see three examples. BTW if anyone knows what Ioshima and Yasoshima were named after I would be grateful.

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[5075 Chiang Kai-Shek - by Robert Jenkins]
.P By the time of the Sino-Japanese war in 1937, the Chinese navy was small and
the few vessels available to it were mostly obsolete. A program designed to
strengthen and modernise this force in the late twenties/early thirties was never
completed, although in that time a number of gunboats and two light cruisers were
constructed. The failure of the program was due largely to internal divisions
that plagued China at that time and the fact that the Japanese, who were
providing technical assistance, had designs of her own on the country.
.P When war with Japan came in 1937, the Chinese navy was very quickly eliminated
and the Japanese were able to occupy key chinese ports and coastal areas, making
further naval construction impossible. In reality, even if some of her dockyards
had remained under her control, China would have found construction virtually
impossible. For one thing Japanese air attack would have been a problem and even
more importantly, there would have been a lack of both the required materials and
shipbuilding expertise for ships of any real size.
.P However, notwithstanding the above, World In Flames allows the Chinese player
the opportunity to build a limited navy; provided of course that China still has
access to her port facilities.
.P Chiang Kai-Shek is a battleship that enters the force pool in 1941. There are
no technical details available for what is a truly hypothetical vessel. This ship
has been given a powerful offensive armament, combined with a low range and she
is likely therefore to be a coastal defence type vessel.
.P She has been given the name of the leader of the Chinese Nationalist
Government during the Second World War, Chiang Kai-Shek.


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RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land - 9/4/2010 8:43:54 AM   
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[5077 Ning Hai - by Robert Jenkins]
.B Engine(s) output: 9,500 hp
.B Top Speed: 22.25 knots
.B Main armament: 6 x 5.5-inch (140mm), 6 x 76mm guns
.B Displacement (standard): 2,500 tons
.B Thickest armour: No belt armour
.P The Ning Hai-class were Japanese designed cruisers, built for the Chinese
navy between 1930 and 1936.
.P The name ship of the class was constructed in Japan and completed in 1932,
while her sister, Ping Hai, was built in China. Her construction there required
the assistance of the Japanese, but when the Japanese withdrew in 1933, due to
the worsening political situation, her construction came to a halt. She was
finally completed in 1936 only thanks to the assistance of a team of German
technicians.
.P Although classed as light cruisers, these two ships were nothing of the sort.
They were small, relatively slow vessels, but with a shallow draught that meant
they were ideally suited to waterways such as the great Yangtse river.
.P For their size, they were powerfully armed, with six 5.5-inch main guns fitted
in three twin turrets. Secondary armament differed; Ning Hai being fitted with
six single 76mm anti-aircraft guns and Ping Hai being given three single German
88mm guns. Ning Hai carried two aircraft but Ping Hai did not have this
capability. Both vessels were fitted with two double torpedo tubes.
.P They were very lightly armoured vessels, having no belt armour and only a
thin, 1-inch armoured deck and turret protection of a similar thickness.
.P Their names translate to Peaceful Sea (Ning Hai) and Amicable Sea (Ping Hai).
.P The Sino-Japanese war began in July 1937 and the two ships lasted just two
months before being sunk. They were both deployed in the Yangtse near the capital
Nanking when they were attacked by Japanese aircraft on the 23rd of September.
.P However, thanks to the shallow water that they were in, after the Japanese had
taken Nanking, they were re-floated and repaired. Both ships then remained in the
Yangtse to defend the old Chinese Capital.
.P In 1943 they were transferred to the Imperial Japanese Navy (IJN) for use as
convoy escorts in coastal waters. They were re-named as Yasoshima (Ping Hai) and
Ioshima (Ning Hai). Their IJN careers lasted little longer than their Chinese
navy careers had done. Ning Hai was sunk off Honshu on the 19th September 1944
by a torpedo from the US submarine Shad and Yasoshima was destroyed by US
aircraft in the Philippines two months later.
.P In World In Flames Ning Hai is only available in games involving Days of
Decision, but Ping Hai allows for the fact that the Japanese re-floated and
repaired her and is available for use by the Japanese player in all scenarios.


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RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land - 9/4/2010 8:45:14 AM   
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[5079 Ying Swei - by Robert Jenkins]
.B Engine(s) output: 6,000 hp
.B Top Speed: 20 knots
.B Main armament: 2 x 6-inch (152mm), 4 x 3-inch (76mm) guns
.B Displacement (full load): 2,750 tons
.B Thickest armour: These ships had no belt armour
.P The Chao Ho's were originally a class of three cruisers ordered for the
Chinese navy under their 1908 construction programme, and built between 1910 and
1913. Reflecting China's somewhat limited shipbuilding capability, two of the
class, Chao Ho and Ying Swei, were built in the United Kingdom with the third,
Fei Hung, built in the United States.
.P The ships were actually designed to act as training vessels to prepare the
Chinese navy for a planned large scale expansion of the fleet.
.P These ships carried a variety of gun sizes, with the main armament consisting
of two single 6-inch guns. These were supported by a variety of guns, including
four 3-inch, six 3-pdrs and two 1-pdrs. The guns themselves were manufactured by
two different firms. Completing the weapons package were two 18-inch torpedo
tubes. The only subsequent up-date of any note was the fitting of two 2-pdr anti-
aircraft guns at the start of the thirties.
.P Armour defence was basic, with the ships having no belt armour and horizontal
defence of 1.5-inches maximum in Ying Swei and 2-inches maximum for the other two
vessels.
.P The ships were slow with a 20-knot top speed and range was limited. The
machinery and boiler arrangements differed from ship to ship, all of which must
have been a problem from a maintenance perspective.
.P Following the Chinese Revolution of 1911/12, both Fei Hung and Chao Ho were
put up for sale. The former was sold to the Greek navy shortly after completion,
but Chao Ho attracted no buyer and was delivered to the Chinese. Fei Hung was
renamed Helle upon commission into the Greek navy and she is available to the
player controlling Greece in World In Flames.
.P The names Chao Ho and Ying Swei translate respectively to Bring Peace and Be
Lucky.
.P Once Japan declared war in July 1937, the life span for these two ships was
never going to long; Chao Ho was attacked by Japanese aircraft in September that
year while at Canton. She was so badly damaged that she had to be run aground to
stop her sinking. Ying Swei was sunk in the Yangtse just a month later.


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RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land - 9/4/2010 2:48:04 PM   
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I have finalised the Chinese navy this morning - please see three examples. BTW if anyone knows what Ioshima and Yasoshima were named after I would be grateful.



They were named after Islands (Io Shima and Yaso Shima).

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RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land - 9/4/2010 9:03:10 PM   
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.P Once Japan declared war in July 1937, the life span for these two ships was
never going to long;

Once Japan declared war in July 1937, the life span for these two ships was
never going to be long;


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RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land - 9/4/2010 9:06:17 PM   
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[5075 Chiang Kai-Shek - by Robert Jenkins]
The failure of the program was due largely to internal divisions
that plagued China at that time and the fact that the Japanese, who were
providing technical assistance, had designs of her own on the country.

Don't want to be picky but just spotting a few things...

The failure of the program was due largely to internal divisions
that plagued China at that time and the fact that the Japanese, who were
providing technical assistance, had designs of their own on the country.

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RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land - 9/4/2010 9:11:06 PM   
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Thanks Paulderynck - don't apologise for being picky - I appreciate the double-check - changes now made.

< Message edited by warspite1 -- 9/4/2010 9:22:31 PM >


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RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land - 9/4/2010 10:48:36 PM   
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[5075 Chiang Kai-Shek - by Robert Jenkins]


... Japanese ... had designs of her own ...

Change to either:

... Japan ... had designs of her own ...

or

... Japanese ... had designs of their own ...

< Message edited by Shannon V. OKeets -- 9/4/2010 10:49:05 PM >


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RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land - 9/5/2010 1:59:53 PM   
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[5077 Ning Hai - by Robert Jenkins]
.B Engine(s) output: 9,500 hp
.B Top Speed: 22.25 knots
.B Main armament: 6 x 5.5-inch (140mm), 6 x 76mm guns
.B Displacement (standard): 2,500 tons
.B Thickest armour: No belt armour


Armourbelt 25mm

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RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land - 9/5/2010 2:40:32 PM   
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[5077 Ning Hai - by Robert Jenkins]
.B Engine(s) output: 9,500 hp
.B Top Speed: 22.25 knots
.B Main armament: 6 x 5.5-inch (140mm), 6 x 76mm guns
.B Displacement (standard): 2,500 tons
.B Thickest armour: No belt armour


Armourbelt 25mm

Warspite1

Same old problem - different sources claim different figures....


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RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land - 9/5/2010 3:11:12 PM   
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Armourbelt 1 inch or 25mm (source Conway's All The Worlds Fighting Ships 1922-1946)

Please check out specifications for the other CHN ship classes.

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RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land - 9/5/2010 6:26:26 PM   
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Armourbelt 1 inch or 25mm (source Conway's All The Worlds Fighting Ships 1922-1946)

Please check out specifications for the other CHN ship classes.

Warspite1

The source used for these cruisers is Conways as usual. There is nothing in the technical data to say they had an armour belt, although the text refers to "apart from the deck and turret plating the only protection was bullet proof plating on the sides abreast the machinery".

Conways does not specify a thickness for this bullet proof plating, but maybe this is what that website is referring to. If it is, its not an armour belt.

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RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land - 9/6/2010 3:45:00 PM   
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Armourbelt 1 inch or 25mm (source Conway's All The Worlds Fighting Ships 1922-1946)

Please check out specifications for the other CHN ship classes.

Warspite1

The source used for these cruisers is Conways as usual. There is nothing in the technical data to say they had an armour belt, although the text refers to "apart from the deck and turret plating the only protection was bullet proof plating on the sides abreast the machinery".

Conways does not specify a thickness for this bullet proof plating, but maybe this is what that website is referring to. If it is, its not an armour belt.


Since the title of the line is "Thickest armour: " I just tought you might not be aware of the actual armor specifications.

"Thickest armour:" wouldn't restrtict information to just an armour belt.


Belt armor: a layer of heavy metal armor plated onto or within outer hulls of warships, typically on battleships, battlecruisers, cruisers, and on aircraft carriers converted from those types of ships.

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RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land - 9/6/2010 6:40:13 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: warspite1


quote:

ORIGINAL: Extraneous

Armourbelt 1 inch or 25mm (source Conway's All The Worlds Fighting Ships 1922-1946)

Please check out specifications for the other CHN ship classes.

Warspite1

The source used for these cruisers is Conways as usual. There is nothing in the technical data to say they had an armour belt, although the text refers to "apart from the deck and turret plating the only protection was bullet proof plating on the sides abreast the machinery".

Conways does not specify a thickness for this bullet proof plating, but maybe this is what that website is referring to. If it is, its not an armour belt.


Since the title of the line is "Thickest armour: " I just tought you might not be aware of the actual armor specifications.

"Thickest armour:" wouldn't restrtict information to just an armour belt.


Belt armor: a layer of heavy metal armor plated onto or within outer hulls of warships, typically on battleships, battlecruisers, cruisers, and on aircraft carriers converted from those types of ships.

Warspite1

That is correct - this is one of those annoying things that needs to be tidied up - but will not be done until all the named ship counters have their technical data and intro completed (and non-named units have their intro done). Whether I change Thickest Armour to Belt Armour or keep Thickest Armour and include the thickest horizontal, vertical and other (e.g. turret) armour in the data, depends on a number of things. My guess at this stage is it will be the latter.

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RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land - 9/10/2010 3:17:42 AM   
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I am looking to get the Italian battleships finalised this weekend. Please see first of four posts: a "what if" Littorio-class.

[4982 Lepanto - by Robert Jenkins]
.B Engine(s) output: 128,200 hp
.B Top Speed: 30 knots
.B Main armament: 9 x 15-inch (381mm), 12 x 6-inch (152mm) guns
.B Displacement (full load): 45,485 tons
.B Thickest armour: 13.75-inch (belt)
.P The Littorios were a class of four battleships that were laid down and
constructed for the Regia Marina in two groups. The two ships of Group 1 -
Littorio and Vittorio Veneto - were built between 1934 and 1940; both being
completed just before Mussolini's declaration of war on the United Kingdom and
France in June 1940. The two ships of Group II - Roma and Impero - were laid down
in 1938 but only Roma was completed before the Italian surrender to the Allies in
1943. Note: World In Flames also allows the Italian player the opportunity to
construct two "what if" ships of the class, and these vessels have been given the
names Lepanto and Italia.
.P These fast, handsome capital ships were built in response to the appearance of
the French Dunkerque-class. Design work began in the early thirties, and whether
the Littorios or the Dunkerques can be called the first of the fast battleships
is open to debate; the French ships carried a 13-inch main armament and are
sometimes referred to as battlecruisers. Either way, with a standard displacement
significantly over the 35,000 ton limit allowed by the Washington Naval Treaty,
the Littorios were, all round, the most powerful battleships in the Mediterranean
during World War II.
.P The Littorios main armament consisted of three triple 15-inch guns rather than
the 16-inch guns allowed by the Washington Treaty. The smaller gun was chosen for
these battleships because its design was already completed, and waiting for the
bigger gun would probably mean delaying the Littorios completion. Suitably
updated, this 15-inch gun achieved an impressive 46,800yds range. Secondary
armament was provided by four triple 6-inch guns and four single 4.7-inch guns.
Anti-aircraft (AA) defence came courtesy of twelve 3.5-inch, twenty 37mm and
sixteen 20mm guns. Their close-range AA weaponry was increased during the war. Up
to three aircraft could be carried.
.P The Littorios armour defence was not inferior to their contemporaries, with a
belt of 13.75-inches at its maximum and horizontal protection of over 6-inches.
However, one defensive measure that would prove a weakness was the Pugliese
underwater protection system which was not a success and was unable to provide
the necessary level of anti-torpedo protection it was designed to give.
.P The ships exceeded both their designed horsepower output and their top speed
during trials. Even at their proposed 30 knots these ships were comfortably
faster than the Royal Navy battleships of the time, and this would give them an
advantage against the likes of the latter's Queen Elizabeth and R-class
battleships. While fast ships, the range of these vessels was limited, reflecting
the fact that the Regia Marina's expected area of operation was the
Mediterranean.
.P The difference between the Group 1 and Group II ships was minimal; the main
difference being that the latter group were slightly longer.
.P The background to the ships names was as follows: Littorio is the Italian word
for the Roman official that carried the Fasces, a symbol of the Roman Republic
that was adopted by Mussolini's fascists; Vittorio Veneto was named in honour of
the famous Italian victory over the Austro-Hungarian army in 1918; Roma was named
after the capital of Italy; and Impero is the Italian word for Empire, and
specifically the Italian Empire that Mussolini was so desperate to create. The
"what if" ships have been given names as follows: Lepanto, after the famous 16th
century naval victory over the Ottoman Empire, and Italia, after the country in
whose name she would have fought. Note: after the fall of Mussolini, Littorio was
re-named Italia due to the formers name being associated with the discredited
fascist party.
.P The Lepanto and Italia "what if" counters allow the Italian player to build
two "improved" Littorios. The two ships have been given improved range and AA
factors. Had the early war gone well for Italy, and Suez and/or Gibraltar been
seized, the Regia Marina would no doubt have been looking to build battleships
with longer range. The improved AA capability simply reflects the fact that all
warships were given increased AA weaponry to counter the growing menace from the
air as the war progressed.
.P In reality these ships were not planned and given both the shortage of
strategic materials and oil, their construction would not have been practical
during World War II.

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RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land - 9/10/2010 11:42:15 PM   
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2/4 The Doria-class.

[4977 Caio Duilio - by Robert Jenkins]
.B Engine(s) output: 87,000 hp
.B Top Speed: 27 knots
.B Main armament: 10 x 12.6-inch (320mm), 12 x 5.3-inch (135mm) guns
.B Displacement (full load): 29,391 tons
.B Thickest armour: 10-inch (belt)
.P The two Doria-class battleships were built for the Regia Marina (RM)
between 1912 and 1916. They were an improved version of the earlier Cavour-class.
The two ships - Andrea Doria and Caio Duillo - saw no real action during the
First World War and saw only limited action in the Second, having been
extensively modernised between 1937 and 1940.
.P Such was the extent of the modernisation program, the two ships that emerged
were effectively new battleships, although many of the weaknesses of the original
design remained. The technical data above reflects how the Doria-class ships
appeared in October 1940.
.P Their main armament was reduced from thirteen guns to ten with the removal of
the midships triple turret. However, the remaining guns, mounted in two triple
and two double turrets, were improved. The 12-inch guns were re-bored, resulting
in a 12.6-inch calibre gun, and this, combined with increasing their degree of
elevation, meant a considerable improvement in range. The old casemated secondary
armament was removed and replaced with forward mounted 5.3-inch guns fitted in
four triple turrets, two either side of the bridge. The Dorias were given a
variety of anti-aircraft (AA) weapons, including ten single 90mm; fifteen 37mm,
fitted in six twin and three single mounts; and sixteen twin 20mm guns.
.P Armour defence was also improved. Although the belt armour remained at the
original 10-inches, the Dorias horizontal protection was increased. The original
armoured deck was 2-inches thick and this was increased to 3.1-inches over the
machinery and doubled over the magazines. The Pugliese underwater protection
system was fitted, but this system was to prove a disappointment in practice.
.P The new machinery fitted gave a considerable improvement in top speed - an
extra six knots was added compared to the original design.
.P As well as the changes detailed above, the length of the hull was increased
and the superstructure of these ships was radically altered, giving them a modern
and purposeful look.
.P Both ships were named after admirals; the name ship of the class was named
after the 16th century Genoese sailor Admiral Andrea Doria, and Caio Duilio was
named after Gaius Duilius, a Roman admiral from the time of the 1st Punic War.
.P Caio Duilio was still completing her reconstruction when Mussolini declared
war on the United Kingdom and France in June 1940. It was not until August that
she was ready to join the fleet, whereupon she was based at Taranto.
.P Her first operation, at the end of August, saw her sail with the fleet for
what proved to be one of the biggest missed opportunities for the RM in World War
II. The Royal Navy were attempting a supply operation to Malta, Operation HATS,
covered by the Mediterranean Fleet. The Italian Fleet had an overwhelming
superiority in fire-power and ship numbers but their fleet was recalled to base
prematurely thanks to poor aerial reconnaissance (see Conte Di Cavour); it was a
golden opportunity missed.
.P At the end of the following month the British launched a supply and troop
reinforcement operation from Alexandria to Malta. This was again covered by their
Mediterranean Fleet. Caio Duilio was part of the Italian Fleet that sortied
briefly, but then returned to base when spotted by aircraft from the aircraft
carrier HMS Illustrious.
.P Caio Duillo was at Taranto the night the Royal Navy carried out their famous
air attack on the naval base. She was struck by a torpedo and had to undergo
repair work at the port of Genoa; work that took her out of the war for six
months (see Littorio). While nearing completion of the repair works she narrowly
avoided being damaged during an air raid on the port in February 1941.
.P The RM's operations were limited mainly to ensuring the supply route to North
Africa remained open during 1941. Whilst undertaking one such operation at the
end of that year she was to take part in one final skirmish with the Royal Navy;
sadly for the RM and for Caio Duilio, what became known as the First Battle of
Sirte was to end in further frustration for the Italian Fleet.
.P The First Battle of Sirte took place on the the 17th December 1941. Like many
battles of the Mediterranean war, the engagement was the result of attempts by
both the Italians and the British to get convoys to their respective
destinations. The back-drop to the action was the British offensive in the
Western Desert, Operation Crusader, that had thrown Field Marshall Rommel's
Afrika Korps back to a position east of Benghazi, and had in the process,
relieved the besieged garrison at Tobruk. Rommel was desperate for supplies for
his army following this defeat.
.P Two cruisers loaded with precious fuel had been sunk by a British destroyer
force at the Battle of Cape Bon on the 13th December (see Guissano). The loss of
this fuel made the despatch of the next convoy all the more critical. That night,
convoy M41 was despatched to North Africa, but this eight-ship convoy could not
have got off to a worse start. Two of the merchant ships were sunk by a British
submarine and two others were damaged after colliding with each other. To
compound these unfortunate events, another British submarine located Vittorio
Veneto and hit her with a torpedo, forcing her return to port. As a result, the
Italians had no choice but to cancel the operation.
.P Three days later the Regia Marina tried again with a smaller, four-ship convoy
designated M42. The escort arrangements for M42 were even heavier than for M41,
despite the loss of the damaged Vittorio Veneto. Six destroyers and a torpedo
boat provided the close escort for the merchantmen. They were joined off Sicily
by a Close Cover Force that comprised Caio Duilio; the light cruisers d'Aosta,
Attendolo and Montecuccoli; and three destroyers. A third layer of protection was
provided by the Distant Covering Force, with the battleships Littorio, Andrea
Doria and Giulio Cesare; the heavy cruisers Gorizia and Trento; and ten
destroyers.
.P The Royal Navy meanwhile, were involved in an important convoy operation of
their own which began on the 15th December, the day before M42 sailed. The
British were trying to get the fast merchant ship Breconshire to Malta.
Breconshire was escorted by a force of three light cruisers and eight destroyers
and would be met by a further three light cruisers and eight destroyers sailing
from Malta. The idea was that the two forces would meet on the 18th, at which
point the latter would take over escort duties from the former and then escort
Breconshire to her destination.
.P During the 17th the Italian air force found the Malta bound Royal Navy ships
and attacked, though without success. Meanwhile, Vice-Admiral Iachino, aboard
Littorio, was convinced that the British ships were trying to attack the Italian
convoy and, with some caution, he tried to intercept the small British force.
Facing three battleships and with a merchant vessel to protect himself, the
British commander tried to keep out of range. In the early evening, the Italian
battleships finally sighted the British and, at extreme range, fired on the enemy
cruisers and destroyers. Little damage was inflicted however.
.P Iachino was faced with a difficult choice. His first duty was to protect the
vital convoy, and, remembering the devastating losses his cruiser force had
suffered in the night action at the Battle of Matapan, he decided to withdraw.
.P The battle had proved inconclusive; although Breconshire had been able to
reach Malta, all four merchants vessels of M42 reached their destinations. Three
ships sailed for Tripoli and the fourth was diverted to Benghazi.
.P For Caio Duilio, the war had pretty much come to an end. For much of 1942 and
1943 she was laid up in port due to a lack of fuel. When the Italians surrendered
to the Allies in September 1943, Caio Duilio was at Taranto. She left port on the
9th and reached Malta a day later. There she remained for the remainder of the
war.
.P Caio Duilio was returned to Italy after the war and she continued to serve
with the fleet until 1956.
.P Caio Duilio was scrapped in 1957.

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RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land - 9/11/2010 4:09:11 AM   
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This reads a bit oddly: "Facing three battleships and with a merchant vessel to protect himself, the British commander tried to keep out of range."

I suggest: "Facing three battleships and desiring to protect a merchant vessel of his own, the British commander tried to keep out of range."

We all know that no RN commander would hide behind a merchant vessel. It's just not done.

8 lines further down "merchants" should be "merchant".



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RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land - 9/11/2010 4:50:09 AM   
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dovetails nicely with playing WiF though. man, I hope they don't find me on this search roll, I've got convoy points out here....and sometimes both sides are thinking this simultaneously.

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RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land - 9/11/2010 7:38:58 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: paulderynck

This reads a bit oddly: "Facing three battleships and with a merchant vessel to protect himself, the British commander tried to keep out of range."

I suggest: "Facing three battleships and desiring to protect a merchant vessel of his own, the British commander tried to keep out of range."

We all know that no RN commander would hide behind a merchant vessel. It's just not done.

8 lines further down "merchants" should be "merchant".


Warspite1

I will make the change for ease of reading - thank-you.

No question of Rear-Admiral Vian hiding behind a merchant vessel, but I think arguing with three battleships, two heavy cruisers and ten destroyers with his 6-inch gunned ships would have been a little unwise....

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RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land - 9/11/2010 2:19:21 PM   
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[4982 Lepanto - by Robert Jenkins]
.B Engine(s) output:200 hp
.B Top Speed: 30 knots
.B Main armament: 9 x 15-inch (381mm), 12 x 6-inch (152mm) guns
.B Displacement (full load): 45,485 tons
.B Thickest armour: 13.75-inch (armour belt)
.P The Littorios were a class of four battleships that were laid down and
constructed for the Regia Marina in two groups. The two ships of Group 1 -
Littorio and Vittorio Veneto - were built between 1934 and 1940; both being
completed just before Mussolini's declaration of war on the United Kingdom and
France in June 1940. The two ships of Group II - Roma and Impero - were laid down
in 1938 but only Roma was completed before the Italian surrender to the Allies in
1943. Note: World In Flames also allows the Italian player the opportunity to
construct two "what if" ships of the class, and these vessels have been given the
names Lepanto and Italia.
.P These fast, handsome capital ships were built in response to the appearance of
the French Dunkerque-class. Design work began in the early thirties, and whether
the Littorios or the Dunkerques can be called the first of the fast battleships
is open to debate; the French ships carried a 13-inch main armament and are
sometimes referred to as battlecruisers. Either way, with a standard displacement
significantly over the 35,000 ton limit allowed by the Washington Naval Treaty,
the Littorios were, all round, the most powerful battleships in the Mediterranean
during World War II.
.P The Littorios main armament consisted of three triple 15-inch guns rather than
the 16-inch guns allowed by the Washington Treaty. The smaller gun was chosen for
these battleships because its design was already completed, and waiting for the
bigger gun would probably mean delaying the Littorios completion. Suitably
updated, this 15-inch gun achieved an impressive 46,800yds range. Four triple 6-inch
guns and four single 4.7-inch guns provided secondary armament.

Anti-aircraft (AA) defence came courtesy of twelve 3.5-inch, twenty 37mm and
sixteen 20mm guns. Their close-range AA weaponry was increased during the war. Up
to three aircraft could be carried.
.P The Littorios armour defence was not inferior to their contemporaries, with a armour
belt
of 13.75-inches at its maximum and horizontal protection of over 6-inches.
However, one defensive measure that would prove a weakness was the Pugliese
underwater protection system, which was not a success and was unable to provide
the necessary level of anti-torpedo protection it was designed to give.
.P The ships exceeded both their designed horsepower output and their top speed
during trials. Even at their proposed 30 knots these ships were comfortably
faster than the Royal Navy battleships of the time, and this would give them an
advantage against the likes of the latter's Queen Elizabeth and R-class
battleships. While fast ships, the range of these vessels was limited, reflecting
the fact that the Regia Marina's expected area of operation was the
Mediterranean.
.P The difference between the Group 1 and Group II ships was minimal; the main
difference being that the latter group were slightly longer.
.P The background to the ships names was as follows: Littorio is the Italian word
for the Roman official that carried the Fasces, a symbol of the Roman Republic
that was adopted by Mussolini's fascists; Vittorio Veneto was named in honour of
the famous Italian victory over the Austro-Hungarian army in 1918; Roma was named
after the capital of Italy; and Impero is the Italian word for Empire, and
specifically the Italian Empire that Mussolini was so desperate to create. The
"what if" ships have been given names as follows: Lepanto, after the famous 16th
century naval victory over the Ottoman Empire, and Italia, after the country in
whose name she would have fought. Note: after the fall of Mussolini, Littorio was
re-named Italia due to the formers name being associated with the discredited
fascist party.
.P The Lepanto and Italia "what if" counters allow the Italian player to build
two "improved" Littorios. The two ships have been given improved range and AA
factors. Had the early war gone well for Italy, and Suez and/or Gibraltar been
seized, the Regia Marina would no doubt have been looking to build battleships
with longer range. The improved AA capability simply reflects the fact that all
warships were given increased AA weaponry to counter the growing menace from the
air as the war progressed.
.P In reality these ships were not planned and given both the shortage of
strategic materials and oil, their construction would not have been practical
during World War II.

[4977 Caio Duilio - by Robert Jenkins]
.B Engine(s) output: 87,000 hp
.B Top Speed: 27 knots
.B Main armament: 10 x 12.6-inch (320mm), 12 x 5.3-inch (135mm) guns
.B Displacement (full load): 29,391 tons
.B Thickest armour: 10-inch (armour belt)
.P The two Doria-class battleships were built for the Regia Marina (RM)
between 1912 and 1916. They were an improved version of the earlier Cavour-class.
The two ships - Andrea Doria and Caio Duillo - saw no real action during the
First World War and saw only limited action in the Second, having been
extensively modernised between 1937 and 1940.
.P Such was the extent of the modernisation program, the two ships that emerged
were effectively new battleships, although many of the weaknesses of the original
design remained. The technical data above reflects how the Doria-class ships
appeared in October 1940.
.P Their main armament was reduced from thirteen guns to ten with the removal of
the midships triple turret. However, the remaining guns, mounted in two triple
and two double turrets, were improved. The 12-inch guns were re-bored, resulting
in a 12.6-inch calibre gun, and this, combined with increasing their degree of
elevation, meant a considerable improvement in range. The old casemated secondary
armament was removed and replaced with forward mounted 5.3-inch guns fitted in
four triple turrets, two either side of the bridge. The Dorias were given a
variety of anti-aircraft (AA) weapons, including ten single 90mm; fifteen 37mm,
fitted in six twin and three single mounts; and sixteen twin 20mm guns.
.P Armour defence was also improved. Although the armour belt remained at the
original 10-inches, the Dorias horizontal protection was increased. The original
armoured deck was 2-inches thick and this was increased to 3.1-inches over the
machinery and doubled over the magazines. The Pugliese underwater protection
system was fitted, but this system was to prove a disappointment in practice.
.P The new machinery fitted gave a considerable improvement in top speed - an
extra six knots was added compared to the original design.
.P As well as the changes detailed above, the length of the hull was increased
and the superstructure of these ships was radically altered, giving them a modern
and purposeful look.
.P Both ships were named after admirals; the name ship of the class was named
after the 16th century Genoese sailor Admiral Andrea Doria, and Caio Duilio was
named after Gaius Duilius, a Roman admiral from the time of the 1st Punic War.
.P Caio Duilio was still completing her reconstruction when Mussolini declared
war on the United Kingdom and France in June 1940. It was not until August that
she was ready to join the fleet, whereupon she was based at Taranto.
.P Her first operation, at the end of August, saw her sail with the fleet for
what proved to be one of the biggest missed opportunities for the RM in World War
II. The Royal Navy were attempting a supply operation to Malta, Operation HATS,
covered by the Mediterranean Fleet. The Italian Fleet had an overwhelming
superiority in fire-power and ship numbers but their fleet was recalled to base
prematurely thanks to poor aerial reconnaissance (see Conte Di Cavour); it was a
golden opportunity missed.
.P At the end of the following month the British launched a supply and troop
reinforcement operation from Alexandria to Malta. Their Mediterranean Fleet
again covered this.
Caio Duilio was part of the Italian Fleet that sortied
briefly, but then returned to base when spotted by aircraft from the aircraft
carrier HMS Illustrious.
.P Caio Duillo was at Taranto the night the Royal Navy carried out their famous
air attack on the naval base. She was struck by a torpedo and had to undergo
repair work at the port of Genoa; work that took her out of the war for six
months (see Littorio). While nearing completion of the repair works she narrowly
avoided being damaged during an air raid on the port in February 1941.
.P The RM's operations were limited mainly to ensuring the supply route to North
Africa remained open during 1941. Whilst undertaking one such operation at the
end of that year she was to take part in one final skirmish with the Royal Navy;
sadly for the RM and for Caio Duilio, what became known as the First Battle of
Sirte was to end in further frustration for the Italian Fleet.
.P The First Battle of Sirte took place on the the 17th December 1941. Like many
battles of the Mediterranean war, the engagement was the result of attempts by
both the Italians and the British to get convoys to their respective
destinations. The back-drop to the action was the British offensive in the
Western Desert, Operation Crusader, that had thrown Field Marshall Rommel's
Afrika Korps back to a position east of Benghazi, and had in the process,
relieved the besieged garrison at Tobruk. Rommel was desperate for supplies for
his army following this defeat.
.P Two cruisers loaded with precious fuel had been sunk by a British destroyer
force at the Battle of Cape Bon on the 13th December (see Guissano). The loss of
this fuel made the despatch of the next convoy all the more critical. That night,
convoy M41 was despatched to North Africa, but this eight-ship convoy could not
have got off to a worse start. A British submarine sank two of the merchant ships
and two others were damaged after colliding with each other. To
compound these unfortunate events, another British submarine located Vittorio
Veneto and hit her with a torpedo, forcing her return to port. As a result, the
Italians had no choice but to cancel the operation.
.P Three days later the Regia Marina tried again with a smaller, four-ship convoy
designated M42. The escort arrangements for M42 were even heavier than for M41,
despite the loss of the damaged Vittorio Veneto. Six destroyers and a torpedo
boat provided the close escort for the merchantmen. A Close Cover Force that
comprised Caio Duilio; the light cruisers d’Aosta, Attendolo and Montecuccoli; and
three destroyers joined them off Sicily. The Distant Covering Force, with the
battleships Littorio, Andrea Doria and Giulio Cesare; the heavy cruisers Gorizia
and Trento; and ten destroyers, provided a third layer of protection.

.P The Royal Navy meanwhile, were involved in an important convoy operation of
their own which began on the 15th December, the day before M42 sailed. The
British were trying to get the fast merchant ship Breconshire to Malta.
Breconshire was escorted by a force of three light cruisers and eight destroyers
and would be met by a further three light cruisers and eight destroyers sailing
from Malta. The idea was that the two forces would meet on the 18th, at which
point the latter would take over escort duties from the former and then escort
Breconshire to her destination.
.P During the 17th the Italian air force found the Malta bound Royal Navy ships
and attacked, though without success. Meanwhile, Vice-Admiral Iachino, aboard
Littorio, was convinced that the British ships were trying to attack the Italian
convoy and, with some caution, he tried to intercept the small British force.
Facing three battleships and wanting to protect his fast merchant vessel, the
British commander tried to keep out of range.
In the early evening, the
Italian battleships finally sighted the British and, at extreme range, fired on the
enemy cruisers and destroyers. Little damage was inflicted however.
.P Iachino was faced with a difficult choice. His first duty was to protect the
vital convoy, and, remembering the devastating losses his cruiser force had
suffered in the night action at the Battle of Matapan, he decided to withdraw.
.P The battle had proved inconclusive; although Breconshire had been able to
reach Malta, all four merchants vessels of M42 reached their destinations. Three
ships sailed for Tripoli and the fourth was diverted to Benghazi.
.P For Caio Duilio, the war had pretty much come to an end. For much of 1942 and
1943 she was laid up in port due to a lack of fuel. When the Italians surrendered
to the Allies in September 1943, Caio Duilio was at Taranto. She left port on the
9th and reached Malta a day later. There she remained for the remainder of the
war.
.P Caio Duilio was returned to Italy after the war and she continued to serve
with the fleet until 1956.
.P Caio Duilio was scrapped in 1957.






Note:

"Facing three battleships and wanting to protect his fast merchant vessel, the
British commander tried to keep out of range."

The British submarine Upright sank the 2 menchant ships. Do you whish to include this?


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RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land - 9/12/2010 7:36:05 AM   
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I won't use the name of the British submarine in this write-up - she appears in the CW version of the Battle - HMS Neptune if I recall correctly. The reason is - and I realised this when doing some of the large Pacific battles - that the write-ups can be kept smaller by ditching some of the detail. Obviously this does not work with some battles where the names are crucial to following the story, but in this case, from the Italian perspective, it was only necessary to quote the number and type of RN ships.

I have amended one of the paragraphs to make clear it was the Distant Covering Force that the RN were being attacked by - I assume that is why you placed in bold the reference to the three battleships?

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RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land - 9/12/2010 7:39:07 AM   
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Whilst in the process of doing the Italian battleships, I broke off to finish the previously drafted Italian aircraft carriers. Three examples to follow.

1/3 - Aquila

[4970 Aquila - by Robert Jenkins]
.B Engine(s) output: 150,000 hp
.B Top Speed: 30 knots
.B Main armament: 8 x 5.3-inch (135mm), 12 x 65mm guns
.B Aircraft: 51
.B Displacement (full load): 28,350 tons.
.B Thickest armour: No belt armour
.P The Aquila was to have been the Regia Marina's first fleet aircraft
carrier, but instead, her fate was to be scrapped, whilst still incomplete and
never having put to sea, in April 1945.
.P At the outbreak of the Second World War, the liner Roma was requisitioned by
the Regia Marina in order to be converted into an auxiliary aircraft carrier.
However, the project was shelved after the Italians saw the severe damage the
Luftwaffe had inflicted on the Royal Navy carrier Illustrious in January 1941;
the British ship only being saved from destruction thanks to the strength of her
armoured flight deck.
.P But then, after the debacle at the Battle of Cape Matapan two months later, a
further review was carried out and it was decided to proceed with a revised
conversion. The newly re-designed Aquila would not be an armoured carrier in any
way comparable to the Royal Navy's Illustrious-class, but she would now at least
be provided with a better degree of armoured protection.
.P The new design resulted in a conversion that was the most comprehensive of any
carrier, in any navy, during World War II and included the lengthening of her
hull and the complete gutting of her internals. She was fitted with powerful
machinery, that gave 150,000 of horsepower that translated into a top speed of
29.5 knots.
.P Her ocean liner beginnings meant that she was fitted with no belt armour, but
she was given a layer of concrete with a maximum thickness of 3.1-inches that sat
behind bulges, fitted for anti-torpedo defence. She was also fitted with an
extensive sub division of compartments to counter flooding. She had no armoured
flight deck but she was given armour up to 3-inches thick to cover her vital
machinery and magazine spaces.
.P Two lifts served Aquila's one hangar, and she had a unique way of maximising
her aircraft stowage within; twenty-six aircraft fitted conventionally within the
hangar and a further fifteen suspended from the hangar ceiling. Room for a
further ten aircraft was found by parking them on deck, and this gave her a
maximum of fifty-one aircraft. To boost her complement further, the Regia Marina
were working on a version of the Re2001 fighter with folded wings. Had this been
successful, Aquila's capacity would have been an impressive sixty-six aircraft.
To launch these aircraft Aquila was fitted with two catapults capable of
launching 11,000lb at 72 knots.
.P Her anti-aircraft (AA) weaponry consisted of eight 5.3-inch guns and this was
backed up by no less than twelve 65mm and twenty-two 20mm guns.
.P The name Aquila is Italian for Eagle.
.P When Italy surrendered to the Allies in September 1943, Aquila was very close
to completion. Her crew carried out acts of sabotage to try and ensure she could
not be of use to the Germans. After being further damaged during Allied air
raids, the Germans scuttled the ship in April 1945 in Genoa harbour in order to
block the port. After the war she was raised but never completed.
.P Aquila was scrapped in 1952.


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RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land - 9/12/2010 7:42:24 AM   
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2/3

[4972 Il Duce - by Robert Jenkins]
.P For a number of reasons the Regia Marina entered the Second World War without
an aircraft carrier (see Falco) and although two merchant ship conversions were
attempted, neither were completed prior to the Italian surrender in September
1943.
.P However, World In Flames allows the Italian player to build up to six aircraft
carriers; the available ships being a mix of actually planned carriers (see
Aquila and Sparviero) and hypothetical vessels.
.P Two of the more unlikely "what if" carriers available to be built are Leonardo
da Vinci and Il Duce. These two ships enter the force pool in 1942 and 1943
respectively. The factors given to these ships suggest that they are sensible
sized vessels, designed as aircraft carriers from the outset (rather than
conversions) and have both a reasonable degree of defensive armour and aircraft
carrying capacity. Like the two "what if" Littorio-class battleships, these ships
have also been given a better range than historical Regia Marina capital ships.
The two carriers were not planned and there is therefore no technical data
available.
.P Unlike the other four "what if" carriers, which are named after flying
animals, ADG have given these two ships the names of famous Italians. This is in
line with naming convention for many Italian battleships. Whether Mussolini would
have sanctioned the use of Il Duce, given that she ran the risk of being sunk is
perhaps doubtful. The choice of Leonardo da Vinci is more obvious, the legendary
inventor, artist etc had his name previously honoured by its use on one of the
three Cavour-class battleships.
.P In reality, with the war going badly right from the outset, it was impossible
for Italy to have built these ships. The problem being a lack of strategic
materials to enable their construction in the first place, and then a chronic
shortage of fuel to enable them to put to sea.

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RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land - 9/12/2010 7:42:59 AM   
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3/3

[4971 Falco - by Robert Jenkins]
.B Engine(s) output: 28,000 hp
.B Top Speed: 18 knots
.B Main armament: 6 x 6-inch (152mm), 4 x 4-inch (102mm) guns
.B Aircraft: 34 fighters or 16 fighters and 9 torpedo bombers
.B Displacement (full load): 28,350 tons.
.B Thickest armour: No belt armour
.P The Regia Marina, started, and for one reason or another, failed to see
through, various aircraft carrier projects between the wars. One of the biggest
hurdles to getting agreement to a carrier program was political in-fighting and
opposition from the Regia Aeronautica who were the favoured service of the
fascist regime. It was also felt in some circles that Italy, with her central
place within the Mediterranean Sea, was one big aircraft carrier anyway.
.P As a result the Regia Marina entered the Second World War without an aircraft
carrier and thanks to poor co-operation between the navy and the air force, the
decision to dispense with at least one carrier was to prove costly to the Italian
cause.
.P Falco is an entirely fictional "what if" counter that allows the Italian
player to construct a basic auxiliary carrier along the lines of the planned, but
never completed carrier, Sparviero (see counter 4974). The technical data above
is that used for Sparviero but this figures should be treated with caution. Had
she been completed, Falco would have been of a basic design, with minimal armour
and a small air group.
.P Falco is Italian for Falcon and the name given to this "what if" carrier
follows the actual naming of two incomplete Italian carrier projects: Aquila
(Eagle) and Sparviero (Sparrowhawk).

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RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land - 9/13/2010 3:18:49 AM   
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[4970 Aquila - by Robert Jenkins]
.B Engine(s) output: 150,000 hp
.B Top Speed: 30 knots
.B Main armament: 8 x 5.3-inch (135mm), 12 x 65mm guns
.B Aircraft: 51
.B Displacement (full load): 28,350 tons.
.B Thickest armour: No belt armour
.P The Aquila was to have been the Regia Marina's first fleet aircraft
carrier, but instead, her fate was to be scrapped, whilst still incomplete and
never having put to sea, in April 1945.
.P At the outbreak of the Second World War, the liner Roma was requisitioned by
the Regia Marina in order to be converted into an auxiliary aircraft carrier.
However, the project was shelved after the Italians saw the severe damage the
Luftwaffe had inflicted on the Royal Navy carrier Illustrious in January 1941;
the British ship only being saved from destruction thanks to the strength of her
armoured flight deck.
.P But then, after the debacle at the Battle of Cape Matapan two months later, a
further review was carried out and it was decided to proceed with a revised
conversion. The newly re-designed Aquila would not be an armoured carrier in any
way comparable to the Royal Navy's Illustrious-class, but she would now at least
be provided with a better degree of armoured protection.
.P The new design resulted in a conversion that was the most comprehensive of any
carrier, in any navy, during World War II and included the lengthening of her
hull and the complete gutting of her internals. She was fitted with powerful
machinery that gave 150,000 of horsepower that translated into a top speed
of 29.5 knots.
.P Her ocean liner beginnings meant that she was fitted with no belt armour, but
she was given a layer of concrete with a maximum thickness of 3.1-inches that sat
behind bulges, fitted for anti-torpedo defence. She was also fitted with an
extensive sub division of compartments to counter flooding. She had no armoured
flight deck but she was given armour up to 3-inches thick to cover her vital
machinery and magazine spaces.
.P Two lifts served Aquila's one hangar, and she had a unique way of maximising
her aircraft stowage within; twenty-six aircraft fitted conventionally within the
hangar and a further fifteen suspended from the hangar ceiling. Room for a
further ten aircraft was found by parking them on deck, and this gave her a
maximum of fifty-one aircraft. To boost her complement further, the Regia Marina
were working on a version of the Re2001 fighter with folded wings. Had this been
successful, Aquila's capacity would have been an impressive sixty-six aircraft.
To launch these aircraft Aquila was fitted with two catapults capable of
launching 11,000lb at 72 knots.
.P Her anti-aircraft (AA) weaponry consisted of eight 5.3-inch guns and this was
backed up by no less than twelve 65mm and twenty-two 20mm guns.
.P The name Aquila is Italian for Eagle.
.P When Italy surrendered to the Allies in September 1943, Aquila was very close
to completion. Her crew carried out acts of sabotage to try and ensure she could
not be of use to the Germans. After being further damaged during Allied air
raids, the Germans scuttled the ship in April 1945 in Genoa harbour in order to
block the port. After the war she was raised but never completed.
.P Aquila was scrapped in 1952.

4972 Il Duce - by Robert Jenkins]
.P For a number of reasons the Regia Marina entered the Second World War without
an aircraft carrier (see Falco) and although two merchant ship conversions were
attempted, neither were completed prior to the Italian surrender in September
1943.
.P However, World In Flames allows the Italian player to build up to six aircraft
carriers; the available ships being a mix of actually planned carriers (see
Aquila and Sparviero) and hypothetical vessels.
.P Two of the more unlikely "what if" carriers available to be built are Leonardo
da Vinci and Il Duce. These two ships enter the force pool in 1942 and 1943
respectively. The factors given to these ships suggest that they are sensible
sized vessels, designed as aircraft carriers from the outset (rather than
conversions) and have both a reasonable degree of defensive armour and aircraft
carrying capacity. Like the two "what if" Littorio-class battleships, these ships
have also been given a better range than historical Regia Marina capital ships.
The two carriers were not planned and there is therefore no technical data
available.
.P Unlike the other four "what if" carriers, which are named after flying
animals, ADG have given these two ships the names of famous Italians. This is in
line with naming convention for many Italian battleships. Whether Mussolini would
have sanctioned the use of Il Duce, given that she ran the risk of being sunk is
perhaps doubtful. The choice of Leonardo da Vinci is more obvious, the legendary
inventor, artist etc had his name previously honoured by its use on one of the
three Cavour-class battleships.
.P In reality, with the war going badly right from the outset, it was impossible
for Italy to have built these ships. The problem being a lack of strategic
materials to enable their construction in the first place, and then a chronic
shortage of fuel to enable them to put to sea.

[4971 Falco - by Robert Jenkins]
.B Engine(s) output: 28,000 hp
.B Top Speed: 18 knots
.B Main armament: 6 x 6-inch (152mm), 4 x 4-inch (102mm) guns
.B Aircraft: 34 fighters or 16 fighters and 9 torpedo bombers
.B Displacement (full load): 28,350 tons.
.B Thickest armour: No belt armour
.P The Regia Marina, started, and for one reason or another, failed to see
through, various aircraft carrier projects between the wars. One of the biggest
hurdles to getting agreement to a carrier program was political in-fighting and
opposition from the Regia Aeronautica who were the favoured service of the
fascist regime. It was also felt in some circles that Italy, with her central
place within the Mediterranean Sea, was one big aircraft carrier anyway.
.P As a result the Regia Marina entered the Second World War without an aircraft
carrier and thanks to poor co-operation between the navy and the air force, the
decision to dispense with at least one carrier was to prove costly to the Italian
cause.
.P Falco is an entirely fictional "what if" counter that allows the Italian
player to construct a basic auxiliary carrier along the lines of the planned, but
never completed carrier, Sparviero (see counter 4974). The technical data above
is that used for Sparviero but these figures should be treated with caution. Had
she been completed, Falco would have been of a basic design, with minimal armour
and a small air group.
.P Falco is Italian for Falcon and the name given to this "what if" carrier
follows the actual naming of two incomplete Italian carrier projects: Aquila
(Eagle) and Sparviero (Sparrowhawk).



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RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land - 9/13/2010 7:05:54 AM   
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Two changes above made - thanks

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RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land - 9/14/2010 4:17:46 PM   
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This sentence Has too many that’s in it.

quote:


She was fitted with powerful machinery that gave 150,000 of horsepower that translated into a top speed of 29.5 knots.


So how about this instead?

[4970 Aquila - by Robert Jenkins]
.B Engine(s) output: 150,000 hp
.B Top Speed: 30 knots
.B Main armament: 8 x 5.3-inch (135mm), 12 x 65mm guns
.B Aircraft: 51
.B Displacement (full load): 28,350 tons.
.B Thickest armour: No belt armour
.P The Aquila was to have been the Regia Marina's first fleet aircraft
carrier, but instead, her fate was to be scrapped, whilst still incomplete and
never having put to sea, in April 1945.
.P At the outbreak of the Second World War, the liner Roma was requisitioned by
the Regia Marina in order to be converted into an auxiliary aircraft carrier.
However, the project was shelved after the Italians saw the severe damage the
Luftwaffe had inflicted on the Royal Navy carrier Illustrious in January 1941;
the British ship only being saved from destruction thanks to the strength of her
armoured flight deck.
.P But then, after the debacle at the Battle of Cape Matapan two months later, a
further review was carried out and it was decided to proceed with a revised
conversion. The newly re-designed Aquila would not be an armoured carrier in any
way comparable to the Royal Navy's Illustrious-class, but she would now at least
be provided with a better degree of armoured protection.
.P The new design resulted in a conversion that was the most comprehensive of any
carrier, in any navy, during World War II and included the lengthening of her
hull and the complete gutting of her internals. She was then fitted with a powerful
propulsion system capable of producing 150,000 horsepower that theoretically
would have translated into a fully loaded top speed of 29.5 knots.

.P Her ocean liner beginnings meant that she was fitted with no belt armour, but
she was given a layer of concrete with a maximum thickness of 3.1-inches that sat
behind bulges, fitted for anti-torpedo defence. She was also fitted with an
extensive sub division of compartments to counter flooding. She had no armoured
flight deck but she was given armour up to 3-inches thick to cover her vital
machinery and magazine spaces.
.P Two lifts served Aquila's one hangar, and she had a unique way of maximising
her aircraft stowage within; twenty-six aircraft fitted conventionally within the
hangar and a further fifteen suspended from the hangar ceiling. Room for a
further ten aircraft was found by parking them on deck, and this gave her a
maximum of fifty-one aircraft. To boost her complement further, the Regia Marina
were working on a version of the Re2001 fighter with folded wings. Had this been
successful, Aquila's capacity would have been an impressive sixty-six aircraft.
To launch these aircraft Aquila was fitted with two catapults capable of
launching 11,000lb at 72 knots.
.P Her anti-aircraft (AA) weaponry consisted of eight 5.3-inch guns and this was
backed up by no less than twelve 65mm and twenty-two 20mm guns.
.P The name Aquila is Italian for Eagle.
.P When Italy surrendered to the Allies in September 1943, Aquila was very close
to completion. Her crew carried out acts of sabotage to try and ensure she could
not be of use to the Germans. After being further damaged during Allied air
raids, the Germans scuttled the ship in April 1945 in Genoa harbour in order to
block the port. After the war she was raised but never completed.
.P Aquila was scrapped in 1952.

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RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land - 9/15/2010 5:58:19 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Extraneous

This sentence Has too many that’s in it.

quote:


She was fitted with powerful machinery that gave 150,000 of horsepower that translated into a top speed of 29.5 knots.


So how about this instead?

She was then fitted with a powerful
propulsion system capable of producing 150,000 horsepower that theoretically
would have translated into a fully loaded top speed of 29.5 knots.


Warspite1

Agreed one too many that's. Thank-you.

She was fitted with four geared turbines, originally set aside to power two planned light cruisers. The impressive 150,000 hp produced by these turbines would have given Aquila a top speed of 29.5 knots.

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RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land - 9/18/2010 7:33:47 AM   
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Back to the Italian battleships after that brief diversion - 3/4 the Cavour-class.

[4979 Giulio Cesare - by Robert Jenkins]
.B Engine(s) output: 93,000 hp
.B Top Speed: 28 knots
.B Main armament: 10 x 12.6-inch (320mm), 12 x 4.7-inch (120mm) guns
.B Displacement (full load): 29,032 tons
.B Thickest armour: 10-inch (belt)
.P The three battleships of the Cavour-class were built for the Regia Marina
(RM) between 1910 and 1914. They were the first of the Italian dreadnoughts. One
ship of the class, Leonardo da Vinci, failed to survive the First World War,
having been sunk in 1916, but her sister ships were modernised between the wars
and both saw action during the Second World War.
.P The extensive modernisation work was completed in 1937 for both ships and upon
completion they were essentially new battleships, albeit with many of their
original weaknesses still in place. The technical detail above reflects how the
ships appeared in June 1940.
.P Their 12-inch main armament was reduced from thirteen guns to ten with the
removal of the midships triple turret. However, the remaining guns, mounted in
two triple and two double turrets, were improved. They were both re-bored to give
a 12.6-inch calibre gun and they were provided with a greater degree of elevation
to improve their range. Their casemate mounted secondary armament was removed and
replaced with twelve 4.7-inch guns mounted in six twin turrets which were fitted
amidships, three per side. Anti-aircraft (AA) weaponry was considerably increased
to meet the growing aerial threat and this was achieved by the fitting of four
triple 100m, six twin 37mm and six twin 13.2mm guns.
.P Armour protection was much enhanced and improved and included a new underwater
protection system, although this Pugliese design was to prove less than ideal.
The belt armour remained 10-inches at its maximum thickness, but the horizontal
protection was increased from 2-inches thick to 3.1-inches over the machinery
spaces and doubled over the magazines.
.P The ships received completely new machinery which added six knots to their
original speed, giving a respectable 28 knots.
.P Visually, the ships were completely changed from their original look,
including new superstructure and an increase in length, courtesy of a new bow and
stern.
.P The three ships of the class were named after famous "Italians", Giulio Cesare
being named after the Roman Emperor Julius Caesar, Conte Di Cavour was named in
honour of Camillo Benso, a leading figure in the Italian unification movement and
Leonardo da Vinci was named after the famous painter, scientist and inventor.
.P On the 10th June, Giulio Cesare (Cesare) was one of only two battleships that
the RM could call upon. She was based at the main naval base of Taranto as part
of the 5th Division along with her sister Cavour.
.P Almost one month after Mussolini took Italy to war, the first fleet encounter
in the Mediterranean Sea took place. Like the majority of battles that would
follow in this theatre, the Battle of Punta Stilo (known more commonly as
Calabria to the British) was fought as a result of both the Italians and British
trying to destroy each other's convoys, while at the same time protecting convoys
of their own.
.P The Italian navy needed to get an important convoy to North Africa as part of
the build-up of troops and equipment in Libya; this build-up was ahead of a
planned offensive aimed at wresting control of Egypt from the British at the
earliest opportunity.
.P The Italian convoy consisted of six ships: one troop transport, carrying over
2,000 soldiers, and five other vessels laden with tanks, motor vehicles, fuel,
food and ammunition. The close escort for this convoy was provided by the 2nd
Cruiser Division, Bande Nere and Colleoni; the 10th Destroyer Squadron and six
torpedo boats. The convoy sailed from various Italian ports on the 6th July and
headed for the Libyan port of Benghazi.
.P The RM were aware that the British were planning a convoy to Malta at around
the same time. In order to provide distant escort for their own convoy, and to be
in a position to attack the Royal Navy if the opportunity presented itself, two
fleets were ordered to sea on the 7th. 1st Fleet, commanded by Admiral Inigo
Campioni, consisted of: Cesare and Cavour; the light cruisers Barbiano and
Guissano of the 4th Division and Abruzzi and Garibaldi of the 8th; and two
Destroyer Squadrons, the 7th and the 14th. 2nd Fleet was commanded by Vice-
Admiral Paladini with the following ships: the heavy cruisers, Gorizia, Fiume and
Zara; and Bolzano, Pola and Trento of the 1st and 3rd Divisions respectively; the
light cruisers of the 7th Division, d'Aosta, Attendolo, Montecuccoli and di
Savoia; and the 9th, 11th and 12th Destroyer Squadrons.
.P The British adopted a plan that was to become familiar with subsequent Malta
operations. Force H, the small troubleshooting force built around the aircraft
carrier Ark Royal and based at Gibraltar, was ordered east to launch a
diversionary attack on Sardinia. Meanwhile the Mediterranean Fleet, under Admiral
Cunningham, sailed from Alexandria as cover for two Malta bound convoys. The RM's
plan was to ignore Force H, it was Cunningham's Mediterranean Fleet, consisting
of the carrier Eagle; the battleships Warspite, Royal Sovereign and Malaya; five
light cruisers and three Destroyer Flotillas that would occupy their attention.
.P During the day of the 8th July, Italian bombers attacked Cunningham's ships,
and were successful in planting a hit on the cruiser Gloucester. Her bridge was
badly damaged in the blast and her captain was amongst the eighteen men killed.
Despite this, Campioni decided his priority was to the Benghazi bound convoy and
he did not set course to intercept the British fleet.
.P The Italian convoy duly reached Benghazi safely on the evening of the 8th, and
the 1st and 2nd Fleets were ordered to turn north that afternoon. Meanwhile
Cunningham, desperate to lock horns with the RM, had by then already decided that
he would sail his fleet toward the Italian mainland and so put himself in a
position between the returning Italian fleets and their home ports. The stage was
set for an epic encounter the next day, although what actually transpired proved
to be a disappointment for both Campioni and Cunningham.
.P Thanks to the efforts of reconnaissance aircraft flying from Malta, Cunningham
knew the whereabouts of Campioni's ships. As a result he was able to launch an
airstrike from Eagle against Paladini's heavy cruisers just after 1300hrs. Just
nine bi-plane Swordfish aircraft were available for the attack. No torpedo hits
were recorded against the cruisers, and no Swordfish were brought down. However,
much to Campioni's frustration, the Regia Aeronautica were faring no better and
failed to launch any further attack against Cunningham. Notwithstanding this
failure, Campioni set course to take the battle to the Royal Navy.
.P Campioni had ordered his ships to sail toward the British in four distinct
columns that were each approximately five miles apart. Light cruisers were placed
in the left and right columns; the 7th Division in the former and the 4th and 8th
Divisions in the latter. The two heavy cruiser and the one battleship divisions
were in the two central columns. Destroyers screened each column.
.P Cunningham however, had his forces split into three and these were ten miles
apart. The light cruisers, commanded by Vice-Admiral Tovey, and now without the
previously damaged Gloucester, led the fleet. They were followed by Warspite and
her screening destroyers and lastly, bringing up the rear, were the old, slow
battleships Malaya and Royal Sovereign and their destroyer group.
.P Starting at 1445hrs the ships of the two fleets began sighting each other as
the range closed and at 1520hrs Campioni ordered firing to commence at a range of
just under 24,000 yards. The British ships were able to open their account once
the range reduced to 22,000 yards. The RM got the better of the opening exchanges
and Neptune was hit by shell fragments that rendered her seaplane and its
catapult hors de combat. The Royal Navy were having trouble hitting the target
and even when, at 1525hrs, Warspite's 15-inch guns came into play, the Italian
cruisers were not troubled. The battleship's shells were getting closer however
and the cruisers turned away pending the arrival of their own battleships.
.P Warspite herself had to turn at this time as Cunningham was trying to buy time
for his other two battleships to get into range. Cesare opened up her main
armament against Warspite at 1552hrs, closely followed by her sister, who was
targeting the newly arrived HMS Malaya; the latter's guns were still not in range
but she began firing regardless. Warspite was not hit, although three of her
destroyer escorts were caught by shell splinters.
.P During this time, Paladini's heavy cruisers had come into range and Trento
began firing on Cunningham's flagship while the others attacked Tovey's cruisers.
The Italians now had more ships with heavier guns being brought to bear, but with
the time at around 1600hrs, a salvo from Warspite changed the complexion of the
battle. At a distance of 26,000 yards, a 15-inch shell smashed into Cesare's aft
funnel and then caused the ignition of one of her AA magazines. Fumes from the
resulting fires resulted in four of her boilers being closed down and Cesare's
speed fell to less than 20 knots. Fortunately for Campioni the salvo that had hit
Cesare was the last fired by Warspite before she turned once more to allow Malaya
to get into battle.
.P With Cesare's speed limiting Campioni's freedom of action, the Italian
commander felt there was only one choice to be made and he ordered his two
battleships to withdraw under cover of smoke. The fighting though had not ended.
Paladini and Tovey continued their cruiser duel, and this time it was the Royal
Navy's turn to inflict the greater damage despite the Italian superiority in
numbers and calibre of gun. Three shells from Neptune hit Bolzano, causing her
rudder to jam, water to flood into her aft section, damage to her B turret and,
worst of all, an explosion in her torpedo room. Remarkably, Bolzano remained in
the fight and for her trouble found herself under attack from another Swordfish
air strike. As with the Swordfish encounter earlier that afternoon, no damage was
caused to either of the targets, Bolzano or Trento, and no Swordfish were hit.
.P Whilst his battleships were withdrawing, Campioni had also ordered a torpedo
attack by his destroyers, but no torpedoes found their target and one by one, the
attackers withdrew. The Regia Aeronautica finally put in an appearance at around
the time of the last torpedo attack at 1645hrs. No direct hits were recorded
against any of the British ships but Eagle was lightly damaged by near misses.
.P The fighting was over; both sides had achieved their convoy aims and both were
to claim victory at Punta Stilo. In truth however, the battle was a victory for
neither. For Cesare, her damage resulted in a month in dock for repairs but she
was repaired in time for the RM's next encounter with the Royal Navy.
.P Cesare was part of the Italian Fleet for what proved to be perhaps the biggest
missed opportunity for the RM in World War II. The Royal Navy were attempting a
supply operation to Malta, Operation HATS, covered by the Mediterranean Fleet.
The Italian Fleet had an overwhelming superiority in fire-power and ship numbers
but their fleet was recalled to base rather than remain at sea (see Conte Di
Cavour); it was a golden opportunity missed.
.P At the end of September the British launched a supply and troop reinforcement
operation from Alexandria to Malta, again covered by the Mediterranean Fleet.
Cesare was part of the Italian Fleet that sortied briefly, but then returned to
base when spotted by aircraft from Illustrious.
.P She was at Taranto on the 11th / 12th of November when the Royal Navy carried
out their air attack on the naval base. Cesare avoided damage however (see
Littorio). At the end of that month, she took part in the inconclusive Battle of
Cape Teulada in which the Italians failed to defeat a weaker Royal Navy force,
although they did cause damage to the heavy cruiser Berwick (see Fiume).
.P After the Taranto attack, the main fleet sailed for Naples for safety against
further attack. However, long range British bombers were able to bomb Naples and
after an air raid on the 8th January in which Cesare was damaged, the fleet were
moved further north to La Spezia.
.P After being patched up, Cesare sailed from La Spezia on the 8th February in
response to reports that Force H was at sea. The Italian high command believing
that a Malta convoy operation was underway ordered the fleet to sea, but the
attempt at interception proved to be a failure (see Andrea Doria).
.P Further action was limited over the course of 1941, but then in December
almost the entire fleet was ordered to see as part of a vital convoy operation to
supply troops in North Africa. This operation led to the First Battle of Sirte
and Cesare played a part in this action (see Caio Duilio). A further important
supply convoy was escorted the following month, although on this occasion no
encounter took place and the convoy reached its destination successfully.
.P 1942, Italy's last full year in the war, proved to be one of mounting
frustration for the RM. A lack of fuel meant that many ships had to remain at
port and Cesare was one of these.
.P When the Italians surrendered in September 1943, Cesare was in the Adriatic,
and she sailed for Malta, her war over.
.P After the war, Cesare was given over to the Soviet Union as part of Italy's
war reparations. She was re-named Novorossiysk and she became, for a time, the
flagship of the Black Sea Fleet. She met her end in 1955 when she sank in
mysterious circumstances while moored at Sevastopol. One possibility is that she
she triggered a mine laid by the Germans thirteen years previously.

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RE: Unit Descriptions: Air, Naval, Land - 9/18/2010 1:04:14 PM   
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[4979 Giulio Cesare - by Robert Jenkins]
.B Engine(s) output: 93,000 hp
.B Top Speed: 28 knots
.B Main armament: 10 x 12.6-inch (320mm), 12 x 4.7-inch (120mm) guns
.B Displacement (full load): 29,032 tons
.B Thickest armour: 10-inch (belt)
.P The three battleships of the Cavour-class were built for the Regia Marina
(RM) between 1910 and 1914. They were the first of the Italian dreadnoughts. One
ship of the class, Leonardo da Vinci, failed to survive the First World War,
having been sunk in 1916, but her sister ships were modernised between the wars
and both saw action during the Second World War.
.P The extensive modernisation work was completed in 1937 for both ships and upon
completion they were essentially new battleships, albeit with many of their
original weaknesses still in place. The technical detail above reflects how the
ships appeared in June 1940.
.P Their 12-inch main armament was reduced from thirteen guns to ten with the
removal of the midships triple turret. However, the remaining guns, mounted in
two triple and two double turrets, were improved. They were both re-bored to give
a 12.6-inch calibre gun and they were provided with a greater degree of elevation
to improve their range. Their casemate mounted secondary armament was removed and
replaced with twelve 4.7-inch guns mounted in six twin turrets, which were fitted
amidships, three per side. Anti-aircraft (AA) weaponry was considerably increased
to meet the growing aerial threat and this was achieved by the fitting of four
triple 100m, six twin 37mm and six twin 13.2mm guns.
.P Armour protection was much enhanced and improved and included a new underwater
protection system, although this Pugliese design was to prove less than ideal.
The belt armour remained 10-inches at its maximum thickness, but the horizontal
protection was increased from 2-inches thick to 3.1-inches over the machinery
spaces and doubled over the magazines.
.P The ships received completely new machinery which added six knots to their
original speed, giving a respectable 28 knots.
.P Visually, the ships were completely changed from their original look,
including new superstructure and an increase in length, courtesy of a new bow and
stern.
.P The three ships of the class were named after famous "Italians", Giulio Cesare
being named after the Roman Emperor Julius Caesar, Conte Di Cavour was named in
honour of Camillo Benso, a leading figure in the Italian unification movement and
Leonardo da Vinci was named after the famous painter, scientist and inventor.
.P On the 10th June, Giulio Cesare (Cesare) was one of only two battleships that
the RM could call upon. She was based at the main naval base of Taranto as part
of the 5th Division along with her sister Cavour.
.P Almost one month after Mussolini took Italy to war, the first fleet encounter
in the Mediterranean Sea took place. Like the majority of battles that would
follow in this theatre, the Battle of Punta Stilo (known more commonly as
Calabria to the British) was fought as a result of both the Italians and British
trying to destroy each other's convoys, while at the same time protecting convoys
of their own.
.P The Italian navy needed to get an important convoy to North Africa as part of
the build-up of troops and equipment in Libya; this build-up was ahead of a
planned offensive aimed at wresting control of Egypt from the British at the
earliest opportunity.
.P The Italian convoy sailed on July 6 from various Italian ports headed for
Benghazi Libya. The 2nd Cruiser Division, (CL Bande Nere and CL Colleoni), with
the 10th Destroyer Squadron and six torpedo boats provided close escort. While
the convoy itself consisted of one troop transport (carrying over 2,000 soldiers)
and five other vessels (laden with tanks, motor vehicles, fuel, food and ammunition).
.P The RM were aware that the British were planning a convoy to Malta at around
the same time. In order to provide distant escort for their own convoy, and to be
in a position to attack the Royal Navy if the opportunity presented itself, two
fleets were ordered to sea on the 7th. 1st Fleet, commanded by Admiral Inigo
Campioni consisted of Giulio Cesare, Conte Di Cavour, the 4th Cruiser Division
(CL Barbiano and CL Guissano), the 8th Cruiser Division (CL Abruzzi and CL Garibaldi),
with the 7th and the 14th Destroyer Squadrons.
2nd Fleet commanded by Vice- Admiral Paladini consisted of 1st Cruiser Division
(CA Gorizia, CA Fiume and CA Zara), 3rd Cruiser Division (CA Bolzano, CA Pola and
CA Trento), the 7th Cruiser Division (CL d'Aosta, CL Attendolo, CL Montecuccoli and CL di Savoia),
with the 9th, 11th and 12th Destroyer Squadrons.

.P The British adopted a plan that was to become familiar with subsequent Malta
operations. Force H, the small troubleshooting force built around the aircraft
carrier Ark Royal and based at Gibraltar, was ordered east to launch a
diversionary attack on Sardinia. Meanwhile the Mediterranean Fleet, under Admiral
Cunningham, sailed from Alexandria as cover for two Malta bound convoys. The RM's
plan was to ignore Force H; it was Cunningham's Mediterranean Fleet, consisting
of the carrier Eagle; the battleships Warspite, Royal Sovereign and Malaya; five
light cruisers and three Destroyer Flotillas that would occupy their attention.
.P During the day of the 8th July, Italian bombers attacked Cunningham's ships,
and were successful in planting a hit on the cruiser Gloucester. Her bridge was
badly damaged in the blast and her captain was amongst the eighteen men killed.
Despite this, Campioni decided his priority was to the Benghazi bound convoy and
he did not set course to intercept the British fleet.
.P The Italian convoy duly reached Benghazi safely on the evening of the 8th, and
the 1st and 2nd Fleets were ordered to turn north that afternoon. Meanwhile
Cunningham, desperate to lock horns with the RM, had by then already decided that
he would sail his fleet toward the Italian mainland and so put himself in a
position between the returning Italian fleets and their homeports. The stage was
set for an epic encounter the next day, although what actually transpired proved
to be a disappointment for both Campioni and Cunningham.
.P Thanks to the efforts of reconnaissance aircraft flying from Malta, Cunningham
knew the whereabouts of Campioni's ships. As a result he was able to launch an
airstrike from Eagle against Paladini's heavy cruisers just after 1300hrs. Just
nine bi-plane Swordfish aircraft were available for the attack. No torpedo hits
were recorded against the cruisers, and no Swordfish were brought down. However,
much to Campioni's frustration, the Regia Aeronautica were faring no better and
failed to launch any further attack against Cunningham. Notwithstanding this
failure, Campioni set course to take the battle to the Royal Navy.
.P Campioni had ordered his ships to sail toward the British in four distinct
columns that were each approximately five miles apart. Light cruisers were placed
in the left and right columns; the 7th Division in the former and the 4th and 8th
Divisions in the latter. The one battleship and two heavy cruiser divisions were in
the two central columns.
Destroyers screened each column.
.P Cunningham however, had his forces split into three groups ten miles
apart. The light cruisers, commanded by Vice-Admiral Tovey, and now without the
previously damaged Gloucester, led the fleet. They were followed by Warspite and
her screening destroyers and lastly, bringing up the rear, were the old; slow
battleships Malaya and Royal Sovereign and their destroyer group.
.P Starting at 1445hrs the ships of the two fleets began sighting each other as
the range closed and at 1520hrs Campioni ordered firing to commence at a range of
just under 24,000 yards. The British ships were able to open their account once the
range reduced to 22,000 yards. The RM got the better of the opening exchanges
and shell fragments rendered Neptune’s catapult and seaplane hors de combat.
The Royal Navy was having trouble hitting the target and even when, at
1525hrs, Warspite's 15-inch guns came into play, the Italian cruisers were not
troubled. The battleship's shells were getting closer however and the cruisers turned
away pending the arrival of their own battleships.
.P Warspite herself had to turn at this time as Cunningham was trying to buy time
for his other two battleships to get into range. Cesare opened up her main
armament against Warspite at 1552hrs, closely followed by her sister, who was
targeting the newly arrived HMS Malaya; the latter's guns were still not in range
but she began firing regardless. Warspite was not hit, although shell splinters
caught three of her destroyer escorts.

P. During this time, Paladini's heavy cruisers had come into range and Trento began
firing on Cunningham's flagship while the others attacked Tovey's cruisers.
The Italians now had more ships with heavier guns being brought to bear, but with
the time at around 1600hrs, a salvo from Warspite changed the complexion of the
battle. At a distance of 26,000 yards, a 15-inch shell smashed into Cesare's aft
funnel and then caused the ignition of one of her AA magazines. Fumes from the
resulting fires resulted in four of her boilers being closed down and Cesare's
speed fell to less than 20 knots. Fortunately for Campioni the salvo that had hit
Cesare was the last Warspite fired before she turned once more to allow Malaya
to get into battle.

.P With Cesare's speed limiting Campioni's freedom of action, the Italian
commander felt there was only one choice to be made and he ordered his two
battleships to withdraw under cover of smoke. The fighting though had not ended.
Paladini and Tovey continued their cruiser duel, and this time it was the Royal
Navy's turn to inflict the greater damage despite the Italian superiority in
numbers and calibre of gun. Three shells from Neptune hit Bolzano, causing her
rudder to jam, water to flood into her aft section, damage to her B turret and,
worst of all, an explosion in her torpedo room. Remarkably, Bolzano remained in
the fight and for her trouble found herself under attack from another Swordfish
air strike. As with the Swordfish encounter earlier that afternoon, no damage was
caused to either of the targets, Bolzano or Trento, and no Swordfish were hit.
.P Whilst his battleships were withdrawing, Campioni had also ordered a torpedo
attack by his destroyers, but no torpedoes found their target and one by one, the
attackers withdrew. The Regia Aeronautica finally put in an appearance at around
the time of the last torpedo attack at 1645hrs. No direct hits were recorded
against any of the British ships but Eagle was lightly damaged by near misses.
.P The fighting was over; both sides had achieved their convoy aims and both were
to claim victory at Punta Stilo. In truth however, the battle was a victory for
neither. For Cesare, her damage resulted in a month in dock for repairs but she
was repaired in time for the RM's next encounter with the Royal Navy.
.P Cesare was part of the Italian Fleet for what proved to be perhaps the biggest
missed opportunity for the RM in World War II. The Royal Navy were attempting a
supply operation to Malta, Operation HATS, covered by the Mediterranean Fleet.
The Italian Fleet had an overwhelming superiority in fire-power and ship numbers
but their fleet was recalled to base rather than remain at sea (see Conte Di
Cavour); it was a golden opportunity missed.
.P At the end of September the British launched a supply and troop reinforcement
operation from Alexandria to Malta, again covered by the Mediterranean Fleet.
Cesare was part of the Italian Fleet that sortied briefly, but then returned to
base when spotted by aircraft from Illustrious.
.P She was at Taranto on the 11th / 12th of November when the Royal Navy carried
out their air attack on the naval base. Cesare avoided damage however (see
Littorio). At the end of that month, she took part in the inconclusive Battle of
Cape Teulada in which the Italians failed to defeat a weaker Royal Navy force,
although they did cause damage to the heavy cruiser Berwick (see Fiume).
.P After the Taranto attack, the main fleet sailed for Naples for safety against
further attack. However, long range British bombers were able to bomb Naples and
after an air raid on the 8th January in which Cesare was damaged, the fleet were
moved further north to La Spezia.
.P After being patched up, Cesare sailed from La Spezia on the 8th February in
response to reports that Force H was at sea. The Italian high command believing
that a Malta convoy operation was underway ordered the fleet to sea, but the
attempt at interception proved to be a failure (see Andrea Doria).
.P Further action was limited over the course of 1941, but then in December
almost the entire fleet was ordered to see as part of a vital convoy operation to
supply troops in North Africa. This operation led to the First Battle of Sirte
and Cesare played a part in this action (see Caio Duilio). A further important
supply convoy was escorted the following month, although on this occasion no
encounter took place and the convoy reached its destination successfully.
.P 1942, Italy's last full year in the war, proved to be one of mounting
frustration for the RM. A lack of fuel meant that many ships had to remain at
port and Cesare was one of these.
.P When the Italians surrendered in September 1943, Cesare was in the Adriatic,
and she sailed for Malta, her war over.
.P After the war, Cesare was given over to the Soviet Union as part of Italy's
war reparations. She was re-named Novorossiysk and she became, for a time, the
flagship of the Black Sea Fleet. She met her end in 1955 when she sank in
mysterious circumstances while moored at Sevastopol. One possibility is that she
she triggered a mine laid by the Germans thirteen years previously.


You might want to note that RM stands for Regia Marina (Italian Navy).

Novorossiysk
The Soviet Navy recommissioned the battleship as the Novorossiysk. Novorossiysk was based at Sevastopol from July 1949, serving as a flagship of the Black Sea Fleet and later as a gunnery training vessel. On 29 October 1955, the Novorossiysk was moored in Sevastopol Bay, 300 meters (1000 feet) from shore and opposite a hospital. At 1:30am, an explosion estimated to be the equivalent of 1,200 kilograms of TNT under the bow of the ship pierced all decks from the bottom plating to the forecastle deck. In the forecastle deck there was one hole which measured 14×4 meters in size. The damage extended aft from the bow 22 meters.

The ship sank slowly from the bow, capsizing at 4:15am, 2 hours 45 minutes after the explosion, and 18 hours later became fully submerged. The capsizing resulted in the death of 608 sailors, most of whom were staying in the ship's compartments. It became the worst disaster in Soviet naval history. Because of the politics of the Cold War, the fate of the Novorossiysk remained clouded in mystery until the late 1980s.

The cause of the explosion is still unclear. The official cause of the sinking, regarded as most probable, is a magnetic RMH naval mine, laid by the Germans during World War II. During the next two years after the disaster, divers found 19 German mines on the bottom of Sevastopol Bay. Eleven of the mines were as powerful as the estimated blast under Novorossiysk . There is, however, some doubt that the blast was caused by a mine. The area where Novorossiysk sank was considered swept of mines, and other ships had used the area without triggering the mine. Some experts place the maximum battery life of the magnetic mines at 9 years, and thus contend that such a mine would be unlikely to trigger by the time of the explosion. Another problem some experts claim is that the size of the crater (1 - 2.1 m deep) was too small for such a big mine. On the other hand, according to some research, damage to the ship corresponded to an explosion equivalent to 5,000 kilograms of TNT.

A more theatrical conspiracy explanation was that Italian frogmen were avenging the transfer of the formerly Italian battleship to the USSR. Covert action by the Italian special operations unit Decima Flottiglia MAS has often been surmised, and there were rumors that not long thereafter a group of Italian Navy frogmen received high military awards. However, no firm evidence for this hypothesis exists or ever surfaced.

Another theory states that explosives were hidden in the ship before she was given to the Russians. No evidence of sabotage has been found, though Soviet enquiries did not rule out the possibility because of the poor safeguarding of the fleet base on the night of the explosion. The goal of covertly destroying the battleship would be a small prize compared to the risk of provoking war if discovered, so the motive of such an Italian operation is questionable and does not support these theories.

There is also a conspiracy theory that Novorossiysk was sunk by Soviet secret service divers in order to blame Turkey for the sabotage as justification to take control of Bosporus and Dardanelles, and that the plan was eventually abandoned. There is no strong evidence to support this hypothesis.



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