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RE: Video Games and Aggressive Behavior - 12/6/2006 6:25:05 AM   
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Status: offline 		" What's crazier, real girls wearing clothing that screams out "for gods sake rape me""

Any man who feels that certain clothing choices scream out "for God's sake, rape me" needs to work on his sense of self control. There is never an excuse for forcing yourself upon someone...

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RE: Video Games and Aggressive Behavior - 12/6/2006 7:50:23 AM   
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RE: Video Games and Aggressive Behavior - 12/6/2006 8:03:15 AM   
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RE: Video Games and Aggressive Behavior - 12/6/2006 8:09:57 AM   
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In all seriousness I agree with you Brad...and its not funny at all..and that kind of behavior and thinking is dangerous and should never be made light of.




Or Enya for that matter




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RE: Video Games and Aggressive Behavior - 12/6/2006 9:28:55 AM   
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You lost that argument over 200 years ago


That would be a great argument if you weren't killing each other at a colossal rate

By the way, I highly approve of you editorial modifications and enhancements to picture of the Irish queen of warble

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RE: Video Games and Aggressive Behavior - 12/6/2006 2:48:55 PM   
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Status: offline 		Speaking of the Irish, how’s that oppression of the North going.

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RE: Video Games and Aggressive Behavior - 12/6/2006 3:00:07 PM   
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Now, what's "more" wrong in society, your 16 year old daughter wanting to wear a thong bikini in the real world, or some nut wanting to watch anime girls in thong bikinis?

What's crazier, real girls wearing clothing that screams out "for gods sake rape me" (whether they really mean it or not), or guys watching silly idiot anime shows where girls are always flashing themselves?




Lucky for Les he’s not a Republican conservative, a statement like that would have him burned at the stake.

But since the General forum here has a left wing welfare flavor , its no biggie.


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RE: Video Games and Aggressive Behavior - 12/6/2006 5:33:49 PM   
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Speaking of the Irish, how’s that oppression of the North going.


Is that the oppression funded by our US friends in NORAID supporting the terrorists (oops - sorry - I meant River-dancing freedom-seekers - not terrorists in the Osama sense - of course), or the oppression funded by weird funds going in to strange loyalist banks accounts, or the oppression committed by the awful Ulster Constabulary, or the oppression caused by the threat of the return of the Army and Marines?




I'm a republican, socialist, lapsed catholic, so you have a pretty good idea how I view things, but I'm pleased that there is a glimpse of true peace on the horizon.

The only thing I can't figure out is which good worthy cause, in need of weaponry, are the freedom-loving members of NORAID now going to shower with their generosity. Must email Osama - "Wear Green!"

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RE: Video Games and Aggressive Behavior - 12/6/2006 5:44:31 PM   
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But, just to be really annoying, I'll also add that I don't think that any woman wears clothing that screams out "for gods sake rape me". That's the kind of rubbish I used to hear from my "clients", before they got sent to prison - for rape.

Sorry to both Sarge's.

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RE: Video Games and Aggressive Behavior - 12/6/2006 8:06:27 PM   
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RE: Video Games and Aggressive Behavior - 12/6/2006 10:16:47 PM   
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robpost3:

My poor enya, now you dunnit-en garde'


Well,how's about her sister, and ex-Clannad compadre, Maire Brennan.

Also now known as Moya Brennan. Pop to her home-page, see some nice photos and hear some truly heavenly music.

http://www.moyabrennan.com/TwoHorizons/





Oh, and I apologise if I got ratty a bit earlier!

Cheers now, Martin


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RE: Video Games and Aggressive Behavior - 12/6/2006 10:39:01 PM   
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RE: Video Games and Aggressive Behavior - 12/7/2006 1:45:45 AM   
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Speaking of the Irish, how’s that oppression of the North going.


Is that the oppression funded by our US friends in NORAID supporting the terrorists (oops - sorry - I meant River-dancing freedom-seekers - not terrorists in the Osama sense - of course), or the oppression funded by weird funds going in to strange loyalist banks accounts, or the oppression committed by the awful Ulster Constabulary, or the oppression caused by the threat of the return of the Army and Marines?




I'm a republican, socialist, lapsed catholic, so you have a pretty good idea how I view things, but I'm pleased that there is a glimpse of true peace on the horizon.

The only thing I can't figure out is which good worthy cause, in need of weaponry, are the freedom-loving members of NORAID now going to shower with their generosity. Must email Osama - "Wear Green!"



Funny, I thought the Irish troubles started with the genocide by means of starvation in the 1840’s.


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RE: Video Games and Aggressive Behavior - 12/7/2006 1:53:30 AM   
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PS. When I said I was a republican, I didn't mean a "Republican". I meant republican, as in a democrat and socialist - it's a confusing Atlantic Ocean thing. Separated by a common language and all that stuff.

But, just to be really annoying, I'll also add that I don't think that any woman wears clothing that screams out "for gods sake rape me". That's the kind of rubbish I used to hear from my "clients", before they got sent to prison - for rape.

Sorry to both Sarge's.



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RE: Video Games and Aggressive Behavior - 12/7/2006 2:03:40 AM   
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Something stinks in here……….?

Is that the “Left” I smell again



Nah couldn't be....

everyone knows where I live that political discourse such as went on in the art of wargaming is verboten.....

"you can lock this thread now"

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RE: Video Games and Aggressive Behavior - 12/7/2006 2:13:16 AM   
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Now, what's "more" wrong in society, your 16 year old daughter wanting to wear a thong bikini in the real world, or some nut wanting to watch anime girls in thong bikinis?



Maintaining the decorum and ecology of the dialog that this sub fora is supposed to maintain will prevent me from stating anything beyond:

I think "more wrong" is deciding that a woman who does not want her 14 year old boy watching Hentai with a 40 year old guy is somehow "overreacting".
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What's crazier, real girls wearing clothing that screams out "for gods sake rape me" (whether they really mean it or not), or guys watching silly idiot anime shows where girls are always flashing themselves?


There is no such thing as "for God's sake rape me". If you think there is ever a situation where through dress or flirting women give defacto inferred permission to rape them kindly please get castrated and register yourself with the OPP.
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Frankly I find women dressing with so little on you can easily see them as naked with the least effort, MUCH more annoying, than guys wanting to watch over developed animated images of girls that have nearly no connection with reality.



You would be the expert on cognitive dissonance vis a vis women and reality I'd wager.

It never fails to charm me that bareknuckles semi-moderated political discussion was 'over the line of decorum" for a gaming company but "Deep Inside Fibromyalgia Man and his Fetishes" has twice in the last 14 days been seen as "worthy of being posted on David Heath's dime". Congratulations Lester every time I think you have bottomed out you dive a little deeper. Were I not to know any better I'd posit you were crew on the Bathyscape, but your eloquence belies that guess on my part.








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RE: Video Games and Aggressive Behavior - 12/7/2006 2:52:49 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Mart

PS. When I said I was a republican, I didn't mean a "Republican". I meant republican, as in a democrat and socialist - it's a confusing Atlantic Ocean thing. Separated by a common language and all that stuff.

But, just to be really annoying, I'll also add that I don't think that any woman wears clothing that screams out "for gods sake rape me". That's the kind of rubbish I used to hear from my "clients", before they got sent to prison - for rape.

Sorry to both Sarge's.



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Hi Sarge,

That's a democrat with a small "d". Not interested in US parties. I'm a democrat, not a Democrat. Definitely a socialist though.

But - not a lawyer (nothing against them mind)- Probation Officer. The reason they went to prison was usually with a little help from my good self.

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RE: Video Games and Aggressive Behavior - 12/7/2006 3:22:20 AM   
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Les seems to be taking a hammering (and I'm as much to blame) for something that he probably meant in a different way. Sorry to put words in your mouth Les, but I re-read what you wrote. Yep - I disagree with the "rape me" notion. No question. But I know I'm very prone to say things in a badly phrased way, and when I do it on a forum, I can't put it right again very easily.

Were you basically saying (taking out all the sexist stuff) that it's people who develop obsessive behaviour, become isolated , and only see the world (and women) through a computer box, and a "filter" that's quite abnormal, who are more worrying than people who mix, have friends etc, even if they do mess up from time to time?

The starting subject of the thread was the relationship between videogames and violence. I still think that the equation is the opposite way round, but it's definitely the case that people who commit serious violent or sex crimes, quite often own or have access to material which desensitises them. Sadly, the notion that a woman means "yes" when she says "no" is part of that. But, one thing in favour of what you were saying is that teenagers should be able to dress attractively/sexily or whatever. Teenagers do all sorts of stuff.  The good thing is that, in real life, any smart-arse who were to be a pest, would probably end up getting a put-down, if they were a friend, or a "thump" if they were a stranger. In the weird world of pornography, and some anime, "no" always means "yes". Better to be thumped by you're girlfriend, when you're 13, learn that women have rights, and then grow up.

I hope I haven't misrepresented you.

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RE: Video Games and Aggressive Behavior - 12/7/2006 3:23:56 AM   
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Hi Sarge,

That's a democrat with a small "d". Not interested in US parties. I'm a democrat, not a Democrat. Definitely a socialist though.




Right, your only interested in

1) OUR Constitutional rights (earned in blood mind you) by more then the Revolutionary generation. Matter of fact most of Europe has been fertilized by American youth .

2) Consumption of fossil fuels

3) Crime rate

4) Funding of terrorists or Irish steep dancers as we Yanks like to call them

5) Foreign policy

6) FBI qualifications

But no interest in US parties.






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RE: Video Games and Aggressive Behavior - 12/7/2006 3:30:08 AM   
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But no interest in US parties.



Well Sarge, oddly, EUtopian $ociali$ts are always willing to lend the Donks a hand with agitprop. They do so almost as relfexively as offering all of these "helpful suggestions" to us poor benighted Yanks. I can't tell you how many times I have also opined in the inverse on internal UK, German, and Fwench policy....


well actually I can it is about once a year when they have a particularly brilliant bout of idiocy....

EUtopians enjoy slagging the US because they have already rendered their own power matrix a EUnuch.

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RE: Video Games and Aggressive Behavior - 12/7/2006 3:52:38 AM   
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Boredom alert!!



Well good heavens no, I better go back and edit out my comment if I am rendering you bored. You really owe it to yourself to do some digging on your new pal's various posts on the female species here and elsewhere. Of course, "luckily" he managed to nuke NAMB and the old AoW is now gone but the metamucil Kid is a work of art in the misogyny department.

Considering I am an "eeeeeevvvvviiiiilll Conservative" and all that I thought I was supposed to be the sexual more' unsophisticated misogynistic troglydyte, but again "luckily" Lester is "enlightened" and thus gets a pass. I find his inference regarding "Rape me Please" after his sense of "bewildered whimsy" over a mother's reaction to a 40 year old exposing her son to animated cheese cake at best if it was mundane anime, and pre-coital disrobing if it was as I suspect Hentai coupled with this latest rant to be rather vile and disgusting. The old Art of Wargaming was slammed shut for far less disgusting and egregious speech than Lester has graced the forum with twice in the last two weeks.

Thing is nobody will generate the same effective background noise regarding a socially maladjusted, model making, Canucki liberal that they will over conservatives giving as good as they are getting in the political wars.
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Les seems to be taking a hammering (and I'm as much to blame) for something that he probably meant in a different way. Sorry to put words in your mouth Les, but I re-read what you wrote. Yep - I disagree with the "rape me" notion. No question. But I know I'm very prone to say things in a badly phrased way, and when I do it on a forum, I can't put it right again very easily.


Sure you can by doing what you just did and clarifying. Lester won't do that if history is any guide. The fact is I suspect he refuses to do so either from his Bizzaro Superman level of pride and willfullness, or because it is in fact an accurate summation of his views. Never fails to amaze me that people will try to run interference for Lester though.

This is is akin to a Florida Republican spam e-mailing pages about desiring homosexual encounters being 'an assault on family values" but people forgetting that before Barney Frank outed himself we had Gerry Studds who turned his back on his own majority party back in the '80s censuring him. Of course, in the end it is all about what the magic little party or ideological indicator pegs.....never mind that unlike William Jefferson Democrat Louisiana we ran a genuine Vietnam war hero out of the party and into prison for ethics issues......

again it is all about "well what so and so really meant" with libs.....
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ORIGINAL: Mart
Were you basically saying (taking out all the sexist stuff) that it's people who develop obsessive behaviour, become isolated , and only see the world (and women) through a computer box, and a "filter" that's quite abnormal, who are more worrying than people who mix, have friends etc, even if they do mess up from time to time?



Bwahahaha!

Yup those of us "mischaracterizing Less" are all "prisoner of the LCD" while Less is out there amongst the people mixing and mingling....


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RE: Video Games and Aggressive Behavior - 12/7/2006 3:59:58 AM   
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But no interest in US parties.



I'm always interested in a party!

I also like Americans, though it grieves me to have to admit it public.

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RE: Video Games and Aggressive Behavior - 12/7/2006 4:11:59 AM   
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Well good heavens no, I better go back and edit out my comment if I am rendering you bored.



Nobody was boring me. I meant my post was going to be boring. Just that and nothing more.

As for the rest of my post, I don't know anything about Les. I was was just trying to find something positive to say. I did make my views on the general subject matter pretty clear in earlier posts, and I hadn't quite expected your reaction.

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RE: Video Games and Aggressive Behavior - 12/7/2006 5:45:40 AM   
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RE: Video Games and Aggressive Behavior - 12/7/2006 5:52:37 AM   
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RE: Video Games and Aggressive Behavior - 12/7/2006 7:39:34 AM   
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On this note, KG...I surely allowed my 10 year old to watch Lord of the Rings trilogy. There was violence galore in that...but I would not allow her to watch Mission Impossible II where there was some gratuitous, meaningless, pointless sexual references and innuendos or other films where there is swearing in it.


I don't know. I think people have it totally backwards, and you see this also with absurd movie ratings, where often extreme violence doesn't warrant anything above PG, but if a nipple shows up then suddenly the movie is rated R. Truly absurd. And quite contrary to how I was raised, where sexuality was now and then discussed in a mature (sometimes humorous) fashion and nudity wasn't anything to get all riled up about. The kind of sexual innuendo I see in movies, in my opininion, is hard to imagine a cause of much damage. On the other hand, I would keep images of violence away from my kids (admittedly they are younger than 10, but still) for as long as possible. Although throwaway (soft) sex scenes appeared in every 80s movie I saw, I would never ever rate that as serious as the violence depicted in modern cinema.

As for video games, I'd only go as far as to say that parents should just do whatever they think best, and my kids aren't old enough for me to worry about this quite yet (but soon!). A lot of FPS are just in bad taste, so I would avoid them just for that reason.

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RE: Video Games and Aggressive Behavior - 12/7/2006 3:27:00 PM   
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RE: Video Games and Aggressive Behavior - 12/7/2006 3:31:57 PM   
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I wish the Intrepid and crew a safe journey and eagerly await her return from her face lift...


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RE: Video Games and Aggressive Behavior - 12/7/2006 3:45:50 PM   
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Anyone saying Enya is NOT a babe, can come here and pick up their sign eh.
Here's your sign.

Now, what's "more" wrong in society, your 16 year old daughter wanting to wear a thong bikini in the real world, or some nut wanting to watch anime girls in thong bikinis?

What's crazier, real girls wearing clothing that screams out "for gods sake rape me" (whether they really mean it or not), or guys watching silly idiot anime shows where girls are always flashing themselves?

Frankly I find women dressing with so little on you can easily see them as naked with the least effort, MUCH more annoying, than guys wanting to watch over developed animated images of girls that have nearly no connection with reality.
Are you a pedophile? Seriously what sane grown man would look at a 16 year old dressed in whatever the hell she wants and say they scream out "for gods sake rape me". Then you top it off saying you would rather watch drawn on titties more than real ones? Man Frued could make a career off of you. Did you have a messed up relationship with your mother? Did a aunt touch your naughty zone or something because dude you have serious issues. It's ok to grow up and like girls you're older than 7 now.


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RE: Video Games and Aggressive Behavior - 12/7/2006 4:46:13 PM   
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What's crazier, real girls wearing clothing that screams out "for gods sake rape me"


That's usually not my first thought...

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(whether they really mean it or not),


I'm sure a lot og women wear clothes in the hope that they might get raped...


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