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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 8/6/2008 12:08:26 PM   
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Don't believe it.  Someone heard the shots and will have called the police.  Shun will be found and survive and then he's gonna be real upset.

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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 8/6/2008 5:53:04 PM   
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Thanks Local Yokel.  Yes, that was the picture I saw.  Tremendous detail on a ship that Cuttlefish has made famous.
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Thanks oi, and Local Yokel, for bringing us that picture. It's a great shot. If it was taken on Dec. 10, 1941 then it looks as though Hibiki is probably escorting a Malaya troop convoy.

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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 8/6/2008 5:55:10 PM   
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A view to a kill? Osaka Castle seen from the far bank of the moat:







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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 8/6/2008 5:59:22 PM   
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7/11/42 Looks like my opponents Hibiki wasen't so lucky...

Day Air attack on TF at 26,39


Allied aircraft
Liberator III x 19
B-17E Fortress x 43
LB-30 Liberator x 8
B-24D Liberator x 5


Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 3 damaged

Japanese Ships
DD Hibiki, Bomb hits 1,  on fire,  heavy damage
CA Haguro, Bomb hits 2,  on fire
DD Ikazuchi
CA Aoba, Bomb hits 4
CL Isuzu, Bomb hits 2,  on fire

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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 8/6/2008 7:25:24 PM   
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7/11/42 Looks like my opponents Hibiki wasen't so lucky...

Day Air attack on TF at 26,39


Allied aircraft
Liberator III x 19
B-17E Fortress x 43
LB-30 Liberator x 8
B-24D Liberator x 5


Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 3 damaged

Japanese Ships
DD Hibiki, Bomb hits 1,  on fire,  heavy damage
CA Haguro, Bomb hits 2,  on fire
DD Ikazuchi
CA Aoba, Bomb hits 4
CL Isuzu, Bomb hits 2,  on fire


Ouch! But it's worth remembering that my Hibiki has been hit like this twice, once off Singkawang and once off Wake. But the last hit was two years ago and since then the destroyer has seemed to lead a charmed life.

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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 8/6/2008 7:28:38 PM   
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May 27, 1944

Location: Osaka
Course: Docked
Attached to: TF 23
Mission: Air combat
System Damage: 1
Float Damage: 0
Fires: 0
Fuel: 443

Orders: Await further orders

---

“The doctors tell me he really should be dead,” ship’s medic Lieutenant JG Nakagawa tells Captain Ishii. “He lost too much blood. His liver is also damaged, but that should heal. If he survives the next twenty-four hours without heart failure he might pull through. His vitality is amazing.” The two officers are standing outside the door to Shun’s hospital room. Nakagawa has just finished speaking with Shun’s doctors.

“I see,” says Ishii gravely. “Thank you, Lieutenant. Has he said anything?”

“He has not been fully conscious,” says Nakagawa, “but a nurse told me he has muttered ‘Big Ears’ a couple of times.”

Ishii swears. “I take it that means something to you, sir?” Nakagawa asks.

“Yes it does,” says the captain. “It means the sins of the past visiting the present. It means trouble.”

---

Shiro Kuramata sits at the end of the dock. As he waits for the ship’s boat he whittles, and as he whittles he thinks. Shiro does not possess Riku’s cunning or head for business or Taiki’s intelligence or gift of memory, but he is far from stupid. His thoughts turn slowly but efficiently, like rocks tumbling in a polisher, and he often comes up with insights that startle his two closest friends.

Right now Shiro is pondering recent events. First there was Petty Officer Okubo’s accident. Shiro does not buy the story that the man was injured in a fall; he knows Okubo all too well and ever since he was hurt the man has kept an uncharacteristically low profile. He has also seemed a bit twitchy, almost as if he suspects he is being followed but doesn’t know by whom.

Then there was the attack on Taiki, followed by the attack on Shun. Shun injured, perhaps dying! It seems almost impossible, like Mount Fuji crumbling into gravel. Yet it is true.

As Shiro’s hands work shavings of wood fly, and as they fly Shiro looks for connections. He feels they have to be there. He is worried about his friends and about his other shipmates as well.

A shadow fall over him. He looks up to see an old man standing there, watching him whittle. The man’s sparse hair is white and his face is deeply lined, but he still carries himself well. There is something about the set of the old man’s shoulders and the way he carries himself that convinces Shiro that he was once a Navy man.

“Hello,” he says.

The old man nods. “That’s nice work,” he comments, indicating the carving. A man’s face has begun to emerge from the block of wood. It is not an attractive face, quite the opposite, but the features are already developed enough to show strength and determination.

“I know that face,” says the old man. His bright eyes turn piercingly on Shiro. “Are you a friend of his?” he asks.

“Sir, I cannot claim that honor,” says Shiro. “I am just an enlisted man. But I respect him a great deal.”

The old man nods. “Your regard shows in your work,” he says. He seems to come to a decision. “My name is Nonaka. I have a message for your captain, if you would be good enough to deliver it.”

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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 8/6/2008 7:43:46 PM   
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CF, this keeps getting better & better. You must really be wrapped up in this. Hat's off to you.......

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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 8/6/2008 7:47:36 PM   
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Unbelievable!
It's a really gripping yarn.

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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 8/7/2008 12:26:53 AM   
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Great as always...


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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 8/7/2008 1:00:29 AM   
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Excellent.
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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 8/7/2008 3:24:16 AM   
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At least his story doesn't have the dreaded double carriage return like some novels I' ve read.

"Meanwhile, half way around the world, the grass is growing very slowly."

It takes at least 50 pages to get back to the action while you have had to read other slower paced story lines. Tom Clancy novels use to drive my mad - the two trees on the freighter.


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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 8/7/2008 3:15:11 PM   
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I remember those two trees!
I don't quite remember what they did though. Was that "Executive orders"?

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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 8/7/2008 3:29:59 PM   
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I always thought it was benefit of Clancy's, to manage 3 plot-lines at once.  Generally, you had one that was starting, one that was middle, and one that drawing to a climax.  It kept you turning pages, as one was finished, the next plot-line was getting intense.

Now, I haven't read anywhere near all his books.  I've read "Red October", "Red Storm", and "Clear-n-Present" (and never made it thru "Cardinal").  But esp in the case of "Red Storm Rising", that one was intense, and the whole starting-middle-finishing worked very well for it.

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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 8/7/2008 3:40:44 PM   
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There is just the one thing.
Clancy had a lot of help from a collaborator in most of his books.

Cutlefish here is doing this all alone.

Who is the better writer?

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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 8/7/2008 3:42:26 PM   
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We probably shouldn't discuss Tom Clancy on CF's AAR thread. Besides, Clancy doesn't come up to CF's shoelaces.

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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 8/7/2008 4:02:15 PM   
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<<runs in>>

2 trees were in Debt of Honour i think

<<runs out again without interrupting thread>>

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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 8/7/2008 7:37:45 PM   
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Two trees were in Sum of All Fears. Quite frankly, a cute plot twist but the inprobability of it all was so outlandish. For those that don't remember, two trees fell off a freighter during a storm in the first 1/3 of the book. A US SSBN comes to periscope depth later in the book and rams them causing damage that serious impacts the subs stealth abilities. This allows the sub to be succesfully prosecuted by a Russina Akula class SSN.

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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 8/7/2008 7:42:39 PM   
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quote:

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Two trees were in Sum of All Fears. Quite frankly, a cute plot twist but the inprobability of it all was so outlandish. For those that don't remember, two trees fell off a freighter during a storm in the first 1/3 of the book. A US SSBN comes to periscope depth later in the book and rams them causing damage that serious impacts the subs stealth abilities. This allows the sub to be succesfully prosecuted by a Russina Akula class SSN.


Now if that had happened, for example, in the baltic sea then it wouldn't be so outlandish at all. Huge amounts of lumber are shipped every year there and logs falling off ships pose a serious navigational hazard to smaller vessels

Ofcourse a US SSBN in the baltic sea isn't very likely either.

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RE: Small Ship, Big Trees - 8/7/2008 7:56:12 PM   
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May 28, 1944

Location: Osaka
Course: Docked
Attached to: TF 23
Mission: Air combat
System Damage: 1
Float Damage: 0
Fires: 0
Fuel: 443

Orders: See below

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"What is this?" says Captain Ishii, staring at the two large potted cherry trees sitting on the dock.

"The troops on Kwajalein are partly cut off and desperate for some sign of home," says the admiral standing beside him. "Planting these by the lagoon there will be a huge boost to morale. We can only get things through by fast transport, though, so your assignment is to run the enemy gauntlet and deliver these trees. We have some mail and food for you to deliver as well."

"I understand, sir," says Ishii. "We will do our best to get them there safely."

"You will find that in a pinch they also make effective anti-submarine weapons," says the admiral, "but only jettison them if there is no other choice. We need these trees to get through!"

"Yes sir," says Ishii. "When do we leaf?"

CUT!

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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 8/7/2008 7:57:59 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: vettim89

Two trees were in Sum of All Fears. Quite frankly, a cute plot twist but the inprobability of it all was so outlandish. For those that don't remember, two trees fell off a freighter during a storm in the first 1/3 of the book. A US SSBN comes to periscope depth later in the book and rams them causing damage that serious impacts the subs stealth abilities. This allows the sub to be succesfully prosecuted by a Russina Akula class SSN.


spent 15 mins rubbing my chin trying to remember whether it was debt of honour or this, but for the life of me could not remember the name of the preceeding book and considered a net search cheating..... i remember the story now - thanks

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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 8/7/2008 8:31:43 PM   
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Heehee...the humorous Mr. CF steps forth into the bright lights of fleeting fame:).

Cheery...oh, uh no, Cherry trees are our high priority cargo.

One US sub was sunk by "cherry bombs" on our way to Kwa...heehee.

I'm still laughing at that posting.  I can just visualize the good Captain trying mightily to answer his Admiral with a straight face.

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RE: Small Ship, Big Trees - 8/7/2008 9:27:56 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Cuttlefish

"Yes sir," says Ishii. "When do we leaf?"

Argh!

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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 8/7/2008 10:55:14 PM   
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May 28, 1944

Location: Osaka
Course: Docked
Attached to: TF 23
Mission: Air combat
System Damage: 1
Float Damage: 0
Fires: 0
Fuel: 439

Orders: Await further orders

---

“Sir, you cannot do this,” says Lieutenant Miharu with determination. He is facing Captain Ishii at the top of the gangway, blocking the captain’s descent to the pier.

“Do what, Exec?” says Ishii calmly. “I am simply leaving the ship on some personal business.”

“You cannot go hunting killers on your own,” says Miharu. The captain’s eyes widen in surprise, then narrow.

“I damn well can,” says Ishii, not bothering to deny it. “He is not only a member of the crew, he is my oldest friend. Who has a better right to revenge than I do?”

“This is not some matter of samurai honor,” says Miharu. “You are the captain of this ship. Your responsibilities here override your personal feelings…and sir, you know it.”

“Don’t tell me what I can and cannot do!” yells Ishii. “Remember that you are my executive officer, and you will follow my orders!” He takes a deep breath. “And right now my orders are for you to step aside and look after the ship until I return.” There is a general movement away from the area as the few crewmen within sight or sound of the two officers quickly find somewhere else to be.

“Sir, the loss of Shun is a blow to this ship. Your loss would be much worse,” says Miharu. His voice remains level but his face is set and his lips are nearly white with tension.

“Stand aside, Lieutenant,” says Ishii.

“Sir, at least take a couple of men with you,” says Miharu. He gestures over the captain’s shoulder and two men promptly step out of a door at the base of the tower and walk towards them. The first is Lieutenant Sugiyura, who is obviously trying not to grin, and the second is Petty Officer Takahashi, who looks much more solemn.

Captain Ishii turns and narrows his eyes at their approach, then looks back to his executive officer. “You are remarkably well prepared for something that was supposed to be secret!” he says accusingly.

Lieutenant Miharu inclines his head slightly. “It is part of my duties to anticipate the Captain’s needs and be ready to fill them,” he says. “I am just doing my job, sir.”

“Indeed he is,” says another voice. Tokeitai officer Shimura appears behind the lieutenant at the top of the gangway. “I got your message, Lieutenant Miharu. Captain Ishii, my men and I are ready. Shall we go?” Ishii looks at him in surprise and then turns his gaze back to Miharu. His face is red and his eyes almost bulge with indignant fury. Suddenly he shakes his head and then bursts out laughing.

“Naval academy shogi champion,” he says. “I should never forget that. Very well, Exec, you win. We will speak more of this later, however.” He gestures to Sugiyura and Takahashi, nods to Shimura, and leads the way down onto the pier. Lieutenant Miharu snags Lieutenant Sugiyura’s arm as he passes.

“Remember, Sugiyura, that this is not a lark,” he says in a low voice. “You must protect the captain at all costs. Is that clear?”

Sugiyura nods. “Clear, sir.”

“Good hunting,” says Lieutenant Miharu. He watches the men walk down the pier and get into a couple of official cars, then sighs and turns back to see to the ship.

---

The Rickshaw Man is not happy. Shun is still alive. Feng, who has never before failed, is already back in Shanghai. Du will soon know that the Rickshaw Man has set aside his assignment in order to pursue a personal vendetta. The Rickshaw Man only hopes that Du retains enough hatred of Shun to approve. It is doubtful, though. Du is a very practical man and generally places business before pleasure.

All is not necessarily lost, however. Shun may die yet. And, thinks the Rickshaw Man, there is still a chance to finish putting the opium network in place before he has to leave. He ponders these things as he sits in the dingy apartment and watches his bodyguard and Kanai play cards. Kanai is having a little trouble managing things with one arm in a sling. The Rickshaw Man has little sympathy. Not only did Kanai screw up his mission but he is better off than his partner, who suffered a broken neck.

Suddenly he sits up, alert. Was that the creak of wood he heard outside the door? And come to think of it the sound of pedestrian traffic outside has fallen off in the last minute or so. The Rickshaw Man has stayed alive as long as he has by trusting his instincts and right now they are telling him that trouble is near.

“Hst!” he says to his bodyguard, indicating the door. The bodyguard tosses aside his cards, stands, and draws his pistol. The Rickshaw Man draws his own gun and fades back towards the hallway. Kanai also stands and looks about. The Rickshaw Man stops and considers him for a moment. He knows the bodyguard will die defending him if necessary but the Black Dragon man is another matter. He is worthless in a fight now and owes the Green Gang no particular loyalty.

There is another stealthy sound from right outside the door. The Rickshaw Man raises his pistol.

---

Taiki steps into the apartment over the bullet-riddled corpse of the bodyguard. He looks around warily and sees that Captain Shimura and his men have the situation in hand, so he turns around and motions Hibiki’s two officers forward. Captain Ishii enters the apartment with Lieutenant Sugiyura at his side as if glued there. Ishii gives Sugiyura an annoyed look but says nothing.

In the middle of the room playing cards and money are scattered across the floor next to an overturned table. Beside the table a man lies on the floor, groaning. His face is pale and he is clutching his right arm, which is already in a sling.

Ahead is a short hallway where a closet door stands open. Captain Shimura is standing there shaking his head in disgust, and when Ishii enters Shimura motions him over. Hibiki’s men advance to see a square hole in the closet floor. The wooden hatch that covered it has been flung aside and a narrow crawl space can be seen beneath.

“He had a bolt hole and somehow had time to get to it,” says Shimura. “Though not before taking a shot at that fellow there.” He indicates the injured man on the floor.

Taiki looks more closely at him. “I know him, sir!” he says to Captain Ishii. “He’s the other man who attacked me!”

Shimura nods. “In a strange sort of way you saved his life, Petty Officer,” he says to Taiki. “He threw up an arm to protect himself and the bullet shattered the cast and deflected upward. I understand the resulting pain is rather severe.” Shimura does not sound really sorry.

“Where does this go?” Ishii asks, looking at the crawlspace.

“Just to the next apartment, which is empty,” says Shimura. “This Rickshaw fellow is already gone. But we might find some evidence here and we do have a prisoner, who I think might be persuaded to tell us a few things.”

Ishii looks coldly at the injured man, who continues to whimper on the floor. “I believe you are correct, Captain,” he says.

---

As Captain Ishii and the others come back aboard they are met by Lieutenant Miharu. The executive officer is unquestionably relieved to see all three of them safe, especially the captain, but he says nothing of this.

“Sir, we have received some news,” he says instead. Ishii looks up sharply.

“Is it Shun?” he says.

Lieutenant Miharu shakes his head. “No sir, Chief Shun’s condition is unchanged as far as I know,” he says. “It’s the war. A huge enemy fleet has been spotted approaching the Marianas from the east-southeast.”

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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 8/7/2008 11:59:50 PM   
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ACTION!  This will probably turn out terribly but let us see if the snake still has power over the Allied Forces.


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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 8/8/2008 3:17:11 AM   
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Taiki looks more closely at him. “I know him, sir!” he says to Captain Ishii. “He’s the other man who attacked me!”


Taiki's memory scores again! Not bad for a few moments in a darkened alley. (I have the feeling Lt. Miharu will be disinclined to pursue his investigation of Okubo's assailant . . . )

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Lieutenant Miharu shakes his head. “No sir, Chief Shun’s condition is unchanged as far as I know,” he says. “It’s the war. A huge enemy fleet has been spotted approaching the Marianas from the east-southeast.”



Gloom . . . does this mean Hibiki will sail without Shun?

Yet another enthralling chapter!

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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 8/8/2008 5:01:28 AM   
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How dare the war intrude! 

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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 8/8/2008 5:36:32 AM   
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The IJN is in deep trouble without the glue of Shun to keep it together!

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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 8/8/2008 7:33:22 AM   
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but...
wait....
not done....
out of pages....


I just "discovered" (more like "whats this near 150k view thread about?") this AAR, and since have spent about a day and a half reading it.

It is *unforgivable* for it to not be finished!

...
...

oh well


*refresh* ... damn. *refresh* ... damn. *refresh* ...

edit: oh, and forget Hollywood, they'll just screw it up and add some formalistic crap that they can't seem to keep out of good books gone movie. Now, an HBO miniseries ala Band of Brothers....

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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 8/8/2008 12:27:40 PM   
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I thought CF's explanation of the leader bug (with the German/Dutch captain on the cruiser or whatever it was) was very clever.  It's going to be very interesting to see how CF explains the pilot bug...

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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 8/8/2008 1:29:42 PM   
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Ops losses & suicides?

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