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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 9/17/2008 5:22:09 AM   
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Taiki shakes his head. “No, I don’t really think he does,” he says. “I think that he respects you, at least a little. Most important, he thinks that you will be a good husband to your daughter. But he still doesn’t like you very much.”


Riku has a daughter with Nanami!? I think Riku should stop worrying and just jump off the ship now :P


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Tomio-san


I would think that the -san honorific would be dropped when a father addresses his son, or did you mean to imply that the colonel is treating our ensign as a fellow man, or maybe I'm just plain wrong :)


No doubt...the sharks would be far more lenient than Shun would.

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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 9/17/2008 10:37:55 PM   
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July 29, 1944

Location: 180 miles southeast of Tacloban
Course: South
Attached to: TF 23
Mission: Air combat
System Damage: 1
Float Damage: 0
Fires: 0
Fuel: 256

Orders: Proceed to fleet rendezvous east-southeast of Davao

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Message from Ulithi, received by Hibiki at 1640 hours:

Ammunition low. There is no more water. Enemy now in control of most of atoll. We shall attack tonight and attempt to atone for our failure. May divine fortune favor the defenders of Japan. Farewell.


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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 9/17/2008 10:39:37 PM   
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Location: 350 miles east-southeast of Davao
Course: Holding position
Attached to: TF 23
Mission: Air combat
System Damage: 1
Float Damage: 0
Fires: 0
Fuel: 475

Orders: Proceed to fleet rendezvous east-southeast of Davao

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“We’ve reached the rendezvous point,” Captain Ishii tells Lieutenant Miharu. “The other carrier force is a day or two behind us. Whether we will be joined by other ships I do not know. Reconnaissance reports some cruisers and destroyers at Ulithi and a lot of enemy shipping approaching the atoll but no sign of the enemy’s carrier or heavy surface forces.”

“I doubt we will move until those have been located,” says the lieutenant.

“I doubt we will either,” says the captain. “Especially if I am right concerning the nature of Ozawa’s orders. We want no part of a carrier engagement right now.”

“It seems unlikely the enemy would leave ships unprotected at Ulithi,” comments Lieutenant Miharu.

“Maybe,” says Ishii. “But the enemy has no reason to suspect we are in the area. Perhaps they have gotten careless. We shall see what the next few days bring.”


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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 9/17/2008 10:41:05 PM   
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July 31, 1944

Location: 350 miles east-southeast of Davao
Course: Holding position
Attached to: TF 23
Mission: Air combat
System Damage: 1
Float Damage: 0
Fires: 0
Fuel: 444

Orders: Proceed to fleet rendezvous east-southeast of Davao

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Situation in the Carolines, beginning of August 1944:









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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 9/18/2008 12:31:52 AM   
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CF--Which map are you using?  It is quite nice.


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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 9/18/2008 1:06:31 AM   
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ORIGINAL: John 3rd

CF--Which map are you using?  It is quite nice.




This is Subchaser's map, version 2.1 I think. It's available on Spooky's website. I don't play the game using it but I like using it for the AAR because it's very clean.

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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 9/18/2008 8:29:31 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Cuttlefish

“But the enemy has no reason to suspect we are in the area. Perhaps they have gotten careless. We shall see what the next few days bring.”



Ozawa would do well to scribe a circle of the PBY Catalina search range from Woleai -- and stay out of it until the time is right.


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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 9/18/2008 9:08:13 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Capt. Harlock

Ozawa would do well to scribe a circle of the PBY Catalina search range from Woleai -- and stay out of it until the time is right.


Once again, Capt. Harlock, you have anticipated an entry before I post it. You're right, it would have been a good idea.

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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 9/18/2008 9:09:54 PM   
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August 1, 1944

Location: 350 miles east-southeast of Davao
Course: Holding position
Attached to: TF 23
Mission: Air combat
System Damage: 1
Float Damage: 0
Fires: 0
Fuel: 414

Orders: Proceed to fleet rendezvous east-southeast of Davao

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Contact report from a C6N Saiun reconnaissance plane based on Saipan:

Many enemy aircraft carriers and escorts 20 miles southwest of Guam. Course east, est. speed 15 knots.


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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 9/18/2008 9:12:20 PM   
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August 2, 1944

Location: 350 miles east-southeast of Davao
Course: Holding position
Attached to: TF 23
Mission: Air combat
System Damage: 1
Float Damage: 0
Fires: 0
Fuel: 382

Orders: Proceed to fleet rendezvous east-southeast of Davao

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A lookout alerts Captain Ishii to something happening astern. When he steps out of the bridge and looks in that direction he can see scattered black bursts of anti-aircraft fire blossoming under the clouds some distance off. That ought to be where Junyo and Hiyo are, he thinks. He raises his binoculars and takes a closer look.

The fire is sporadic and scattered and at first Ishii doesn’t see the target. Then he spots the distinctive shape of an American PBY banking and climbing into the clouds. Ishii lowers the binoculars and swears. What is one of those doing all the way out here? With the cloud cover increasing he had not thought there was much chance they would be discovered but it seems that luck has worked against them. As Ishii returns to the bridge he wonders what Admiral Ozawa will do now.

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Broadcast from submarine I-183, on patrol 120 miles southeast of Ulithi:

Winds E-SE at 21 knots. Pressure 1007 mb, falling. Cloud cover 100%, precipitation moderate, sea state 4.


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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 9/18/2008 11:18:41 PM   
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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 9/19/2008 12:00:06 AM   
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I smell fish food in the Pacific.

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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 9/19/2008 7:43:59 PM   
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August 3, 1944

Location: 240 miles southeast of Davao
Course: Holding position
Attached to: TF 23
Mission: Air combat
System Damage: 1
Float Damage: 0
Fires: 0
Fuel: 351

Orders: Strike Allied shipping at and around Ulithi

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The Japanese carrier groups pull back. They withdraw far enough to escape detection by the ubiquitous Allied PBYs but no further. This leads to some tension on Hibiki’s bridge. Have they withdrawn far enough to evade the enemy carriers if they come looking for them?

Captain Ishii gazes across the water at Taiho, trying to discern what is going through Ozawa’s mind. Has the Admiral deliberately revealed their position for some reason? Ozawa is seldom careless. Under the circumstances Ishii would ordinarily expect him to either attack or withdraw completely, but as it is he seems to almost be deliberately trying to draw the attention of the enemy’s carriers. That doesn’t make much sense to Ishii, knowing what he does of Yamamoto’s reluctance to risk his carriers to defend the Carolines and the Marianas.

Ishii’s deepest fear is that Ozawa is wracked by indecision, unable to commit to a firm course of action. Hibiki’s captain doesn’t mind if there is a deeper plan here that he is unaware of. He is used to operating in the dark. But the thought that perhaps his superiors are behaving ineptly is deeply unnerving.

He reveals none of these thoughts to his crew, not even Lieutenant Miharu. His manner instead suggests that he is calm and confident and that everything is going according to plan. And maybe it even is, he thinks. Only time will tell.



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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 9/19/2008 8:07:28 PM   
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Hummmmm, one is mindful of the bait Halsey gambit.  This is even fairly close to the scene of the actual event.  "TF 38 where are you" ?  "The world wonders".

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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 9/19/2008 8:13:04 PM   
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LOL

"TURKEY TROTS TO WATER GG FROM CINCPAC ACTION COM THIRD FLEET INFO COMINCH CTF SEVENTY-SEVEN X WHERE IS RPT WHERE IS TASK FORCE THIRTY FOUR RR THE WORLD WONDERS"

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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 9/19/2008 9:24:35 PM   
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August 4, 1944

Location: 240 miles southeast of Davao
Course: Holding position
Attached to: TF 23
Mission: Air combat
System Damage: 1
Float Damage: 0
Fires: 0
Fuel: 320

Orders: Strike Allied shipping at and around Ulithi

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Admiral Ozawa is bent over a table studying a chart when an ensign approaches and salutes smartly. The remarkably tall and famously ugly admiral straightens up and returns the salute.

“Message for you from Admiral Yamamoto, sir,” says the ensign. “Highest priority.” He proffers a message flimsy to Ozawa, who takes it and reads it. As he does so his shoulders sag.

“I see,” he says after a moment. “Did you decode this yourself, Ensign?”

“Yes sir.”

“Good,” says Ozawa. “You will speak of this to no one. Is that clear? No one.”

“Yes sir.”

“You are dismissed,” the admiral says. The ensign salutes and departs. Alone once more Ozawa again reads the message. Then he crumbles the flimsy in one fist and hurls it across the cabin. It lies there unregarded as Ozawa sinks into a chair and passes a hand across his eyes as if in pain.

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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 9/19/2008 9:54:02 PM   
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Uh oh

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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 9/19/2008 10:23:35 PM   
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Something in the orders from Tokyo is upsetting to say the least.  

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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 9/20/2008 7:26:31 AM   
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Cuttlefish is trying to tell us that what happens next is not what he expected when he issued the original orders... 

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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 9/20/2008 12:03:32 PM   
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When things are going according to plan, watch out because it's a trap.

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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 9/20/2008 1:10:42 PM   
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come on CF the suspense is killing us!

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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 9/20/2008 3:38:03 PM   
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When things are going according to plan, watch out because it's a trap.


I've found that most of the time when things seem to be going according to plan that they are going exactly to plan...my opponant's plan.

"No plan survives contact with the enemy."

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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 9/20/2008 10:16:30 PM   
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When things are going according to plan, watch out because it's a trap.


Jisaburō Ozawa IS Admiral Ackbar IN "Small Ship, Big Trap"

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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 9/20/2008 10:30:38 PM   
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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 9/20/2008 10:45:10 PM   
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Sorry to jump into the thread while big things are afoot, but I thought this was worth it. A colorized pic of Hibiki in 1941, courtesy of Q-ball's blog find.

Edit, sorry, I noticed it has already been posted...




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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 9/21/2008 1:57:11 AM   
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August 5, 1944

Location: 225 miles northeast of Morotai
Course: East
Attached to: TF 23
Mission: Air combat
System Damage: 1
Float Damage: 0
Fires: 0
Fuel: 282

Orders: Strike Allied shipping at and around Ulithi

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Excerpt from "Naval Battles of the Pacific, Volume 7: Ring of Steel" by Morris Elliot Samuelson; Harper, Row, and Fujimori, New York, 1965:

The goal of Ami-Go (“Operation Net”) was to disrupt the American build-up of troops and supplies in the Central Pacific, thus buying time for Japan to strengthen its defenses. On paper, at least, this goal was achievable. The plan was sound and the long Allied supply lines were vulnerable. Had the Japanese achieved their aims the next Allied operation, an early September assault on Tinian, would almost certainly have been delayed. It is hard to say what the long-term effects of such a delay might have been but given subsequent events in the theater one can speculate that Japan would have put the time gained to good use.

That the operation failed was not due lack of planning or execution but to sheer mischance. As Admiral Nimitz remarked later “We were not smart, we were lucky. And sometimes that’s better.” Certainly prior to the Battle of the Eastern Marianas some of his commanders were bitterly critical of their orders. Halsey in particular was vitriolic. “The bastards have finally come out where we can hit them and we’ve been ordered to withdraw?” he said to Mitscher. “What kind of [censored] is that?”

But even given the events of the subsequent battle the western Japanese strike force might still have salvaged something from the situation had not a further stroke of bad luck intervened. But instead of the Allied fast carrier task forces Japanese misfortune this time took a much different form…

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U.S. weather report from Ulithi:

Wind speed now 27 knots from the SE, bp 998 and falling. Precipitation moderate to heavy. All ships and planes are advised that tropical storm conditions are expected to persist for the next 24 to 48 hours as the system moves to the northwest…


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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 9/21/2008 2:32:26 AM   
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U.S. weather report from Ulithi:
Wind speed now 27 knots from the SE, bp 998 and falling. Precipitation moderate to heavy. All ships and planes are advised that tropical storm conditions are expected to persist for the next 24 to 48 hours as the system moves to the northwest…


Those of us along the Gulf Coast are all to familiar with what's brewing...

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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 9/21/2008 3:41:30 AM   
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Had the Japanese achieved their aims the next Allied operation, an early September assault on Tinian, would almost certainly have been delayed. It is hard to say what the long-term effects of such a delay might have been but given subsequent events in the theater one can speculate that Japan would have put the time gained to good use.


At least we have a little taste of what's to come. (Saipan is apparently being saved for last.) But there are two cliffhangers in this update . . .

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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 9/21/2008 8:53:31 AM   
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Ok, that doesn't sound good... 

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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 9/21/2008 4:04:03 PM   
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Bill Halsey seemed to have an affinity for big storms; both of the verbal and weather type.

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