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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 12/29/2007 12:56:32 AM   
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I made a fun discovery recently. This past fall a company called Pit-Road in Japan came out with a new 1/700 scale model of Hibiki. The model can be built full hull or waterline and in either the 1945 configuration or as an earlier version with the "X" turret in place.

I just got two of them. Neither of them has been assembled yet, but if I can avoid help from my cats or my granddaughter I hope to complete at least one of them soon. In the meantime here is one of the kits:








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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 12/29/2007 1:02:01 AM   
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Here is a better look at the box art. It's a nice painting of Hibiki and a good look at the changes made during the latest refit.






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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 12/29/2007 1:26:51 AM   
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“The usual sort of thing. Resources, mostly,” says the sailor.

“Resources?” says Shiro.

“Yes, you know. Resources.”

“Ah,” says Shiro. “Please continue.”



Do I detect a little Mandrakian influence here?

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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 12/29/2007 1:54:03 AM   
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Oh boy....do I feel stupid now... I was under the impression that it was some Japanese sumo champion or something...even tried googling him...

The funny thing is, I do read this AAR.... Must be a memory failure thing



You mean Small Ship....doesnt come up in Google? Thats a travesty!

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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 12/29/2007 1:59:38 AM   
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“Thank you, sir,” says Shun, and gives another of his frightening smiles. “A nice sergeant gave it to me last night.”






3 cheers for Shun and 4 cheers for Cuttlefish!

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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 12/29/2007 2:00:28 AM   
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Wonder what happened to the head that the hat was on...


I wonder what Shun did with the other eleven hats?

Chez



Toilet paper?


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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 12/29/2007 2:02:07 AM   
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Snap, crackle, pop!  Bring the pain.  The 56th Infantry my be mourning the violent passage of an NCO.


Nah. Not Shun's style. But he's probably in more dire need of a dentist than Okubo is.

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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 12/30/2007 1:11:01 PM   
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IDK shun can get in a murderous rage as we have seen. Hopefully none of those army guys said anything about his daughter, then one of them would be dead.

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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 12/30/2007 8:21:21 PM   
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Only where his daughter is involved. In all other cases he seems to be more, umm, creative.

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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 12/31/2007 12:22:57 AM   
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quote:

“The usual sort of thing. Resources, mostly,” says the sailor.

“Resources?” says Shiro.

“Yes, you know. Resources.”

“Ah,” says Shiro. “Please continue.”



Do I detect a little Mandrakian influence here?


Yes indeed.

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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 12/31/2007 12:24:11 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Onime No Kyo


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Snap, crackle, pop!  Bring the pain.  The 56th Infantry my be mourning the violent passage of an NCO.


Nah. Not Shun's style. But he's probably in more dire need of a dentist than Okubo is.


I think Onime has it pegged about right here.

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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 12/31/2007 12:26:12 AM   
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September 2, 1943

Location: Tokyo
Course: Disbanded in port
Attached to: None
Mission: None
System Damage: 0
Float Damage: 0
Fires: 0
Fuel: 475

Orders: Await further orders

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Lieutenant Miharu suggests to Riku that, since they are in the area, it might be a good idea for him to pay a visit to Kawasaki Camp 2-B to make sure that the money they are paying to help their two American friends is being well spent. Riku agrees and goes ashore to make some inquiries. He takes Taiki with him.

Taiki is aware of the basic arrangement, though he does not know that Hibiki’s executive officer is Riku’s co-conspirator in this matter. It is Taiki’s first visit to a prisoner of war camp and he does not enjoy it much, though to Riku conditions seem much improved from the last time he was there. Riku is also pleased to find both Jack and Ensign Turnby in better health.

Taiki is silent for a while on the way back. “I don’t think that any Japanese that the Americans capture are treated any better,” he says at last. He sounds to Riku like a man trying to reassure himself of something.

“I think they are,” says Riku.

Taiki looks at him in surprise. “Why do you say that?” he asks. It is well known that Americans are more likely to slit a throat than to bother to take care of a prisoner.

“It was their reaction when I first went to see them,” Riku says, indicating the Americans they have just visited with a tilt of his head. “They were shocked at how they were being treated. That tells me that they do not treat their own prisoners the same way. And I have since learned from someone who knows them that they are not as bloodthirsty and brutal as they are usually said to be.”

Taiki thinks about this for a minute. “Would you ever be taken prisoner?” he asks. Riku pauses and looks at Taiki. This is a very personal question, and for most people it would be an insult just to ask it But their friendship remains deep despite Taiki’s change in rank, and Taiki has more than earned the right to ask a question like that.

“Yes,” he says simply. “I think that if, for example, I was in the water and someone aboard an American ship threw a rope to me I would grab it.”

“I suppose,” says Taiki doubtfully. “If it was something like that, and there was no way to continue fighting, then maybe. It would be hard. I don’t want to die, but I don’t want to bring dishonor to my family, either.”

“I don’t think the Americans see it that way,” says Riku. “I get the impression that their families will be glad to hear they are alive.”

Taiki shakes his head. “That is hard to understand,” he says.

“I think it’s safe to say their ways are not our ways,” says Riku.


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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 12/31/2007 2:42:12 AM   
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WOW!  CF is not only entertaining us with his yarn, but also waxing philosophical.  

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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 1/1/2008 12:42:52 AM   
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September 3, 1943

Location: Tokyo
Course: Disbanded in port
Attached to: None
Mission: None
System Damage: 0
Float Damage: 0
Fires: 0
Fuel: 475

Orders: Await further orders

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The heat and humidity of Tokyo in August linger on through the first few days of September. Hibiki rides at anchor in the bay with more than a dozen other destroyers, waiting for the next call to action.

The new crew members are enthusiastic as they express their hopes that Hibiki’s next assignment will take them into combat. They are eager to strike a blow against the enemy. The old hands are noticeably more quiet on the subject. They too hope to do their part against the enemy, but they have seen enough combat to know that it is a grim and unpredictable business.

Only Captain Ishii and Lieutenant Miharu are aware of recent intelligence reports showing that a substantial enemy force has been sighted in New Guinea making its way overland towards Lae. Perhaps even more significant are the intelligence reports that have not been received; no enemy surface force has been sighted in almost three weeks.

It seems obvious even from Captain Ishii’s limited perspective that if the enemy is going to undertake the effort to march several divisions through the horrible New Guinea jungle they are not also going to proceed with the expected amphibious assault on Lae. The enemy’s strength and confidence have been growing throughout the summer. Have they grown strong enough to attempt an amphibious attack somewhere else, somewhere beyond the range of their land-based air power?

Opinion among the officers that Ishii talks to is divided about this. Even among those who think an attack is likely there is little consensus about where the blow might fall. The Japanese defensive perimeter stretches from Rangoon through the Southern Resource Area, across western and northern New Guinea and down through the Solomon Islands. It encompasses New Caledonia and the New Hebrides, Baker Island and the Gilberts, the Marshall Islands, Marcus Island, and the Kuriles. It is a vast arc, and there are many places that the enemy could conceivably attack.

While he cannot help speculating along with the others, Captain Ishii is glad it is not his problem to worry about. These are matters for Admiral Yamamoto and the Imperial Japanese Navy General Staff. Ishii knows he has enough to do just to keep his destroyer and crew ready for whatever orders he receives next.


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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 1/1/2008 2:21:20 AM   
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September 4, 1943

Location: Tokyo
Course: Disbanded in port
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Mission: None
System Damage: 0
Float Damage: 0
Fires: 0
Fuel: 475

Orders: Await further orders

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Petty Officer Second Class Taiki Takahashi sits in his bunk and attempts one more time to write a letter. The crumpled sheets of paper beside him attest to the fact that he is not finding this task easy.

He had not intended to write to Sayumi Komatsu at all. While at sea he had convinced himself that the war and his duties left no room in his life for courtship or romance. But he found that despite this decision he could not stop from thinking about her. And once Hibiki returned to port he realized that it was possible, just possible, that he was using his duties as an excuse to avoid having to make a difficult decision. Since that too would be an abandonment of his responsibilities he decided to do something about it.

Thus he finds himself trying to write a letter to Sayumi telling her that while he thinks she is a fine woman he cannot in all conscience continue to court her. Not that he ever really courted her in the first place, he thinks. He really only knew her for a few days, and only kissed her once. But he remembers her face as they parted at the train station in Okayama and thinks that maybe it all meant more to her than he intended.

But he is having a great deal of trouble writing the letter. His attempts come out sounding either far too formal or weak and flat. At last he gives up in disgust and goes up on deck to get some air.

In contrast to the warm day just past the night is pleasantly cool. Taiki wanders aft to the fantail and stands looking down at the dark water, hands clasped behind his back.

After a few moments he becomes aware that someone is standing beside him. The dim light reveals the lumpy silhouette of CPO Shun. Taiki wonders for the one hundredth time how a man of the Chief’s size moves so silently.

“Good evening, Chief,” he says. Shun nods in reply.

“Trouble sleeping, Takahashi?” he says in his low, grating voice. Taiki hears only curiosity in the Chief’s tone.

“I am trying to write a letter to a woman,” he admits, “and not succeeding.”

Shun grunts. “Hello or good bye?” he asks.

“Good bye,” admits Taiki.

“Eh,” says Shun. “Sailors practically have a form letter for such occasions. Why are you having so much trouble?”

“Because I think I am in love with her,” says Taiki, then stands amazed at his own words. He had not until this moment realized it was true. Even in the dim light he can see Shun raise one bushy eyebrow. He finds himself telling Shun the story of how he and Sayumi met and of their brief time together.

When he is done Shun remains silent for a time, looking out over the lights on the water. Finally he speaks.

“My marriage was arranged, of course,” he says. “And we were together for only a few years.” Taiki knows, as does everyone aboard, that Shun’s wife died tragically and young. And like everyone else, that is all he knows.

Shun continues. “But we loved each other. I would trade everything I have seen and done ever since for one more day with her. So I ask you, Takahashi. Are you a coward, or just a fool?”

Taiki opens his mouth, closes it, then opens it again. “I think maybe...a bit of both, Chief.” Shun nods.

“You’ll do all right,” he says. “You just think too much, that’s all. You don’t find what you want very often in this life. When you do, act. Don’t waste time.”

“Thank you, Chief,” says Taiki. He bids Shun goodnight and heads back to his bunk. He now knows what letter he needs to write.

Left alone on the fantail Shun stands there for a time, looking out at the darkness. What his thoughts are no one can say.

“Don’t waste time,” he repeats to himself in a low voice. Then he too goes below.


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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 1/1/2008 3:50:29 AM   
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Well...it is Fall of 1943...this SHOULD mean that the Japanese Kaigun has a few new CVs entering service.  Perhaps our intrepid DD will become an escort for them!


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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 1/1/2008 5:21:48 AM   
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Late summer to be a bit more precise, but that's just picking.

An offensive along the Lae-New Britain-New Ireland axis can be expensive and attritional for both sides, I'd think.  Sort of a landlubbers approach to things, but attrition favors the Allies, so it might be a wise approach by Wolfpack.  It also tends to isolate the Solomons and New Caledonia.  Another plus for the Allies.  Interesting appoach. 

Also interesting is how little the Allies have been able to take back by this date.  Even Baker Is. is still under the banner of the Rising Sun.  Perhaps some of Wolfpack's previous offensive strikes were a bit premature, resulting in heavy CV losses that are now retarding his ability to mount a renewed seaborne assault.

A game with so many viable strategies for both sides is a game destined to be played over and over.

To date has the IJN lost a CV?  I remember Akagi and Hiryu were seriously damaged, but I don't recall a CV actually sunk.  I's guess that both are back in service now. 

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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 1/1/2008 10:16:08 AM   
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Hey - it sounds like you are talking about some war game situation or something. This AAR is about a bunch of guys on a boat. Nothing more really.



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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 1/1/2008 1:24:46 PM   
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I smell a window of opportunity in which Shun has decided that a certain member of the crew just might be worthy enough for his daughter after a miraculous reformation.

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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 1/1/2008 8:58:24 PM   
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Hey - it sounds like you are talking about some war game situation or something. This AAR is about a bunch of guys on a boat. Nothing more really.



History is determined by decisions. Sometimes the decisions are made by people in luxurious offices or well-guarded command centers -- and sometimes they are made by guys on a boat.

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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 1/2/2008 12:57:19 AM   
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Late summer to be a bit more precise, but that's just picking.

An offensive along the Lae-New Britain-New Ireland axis can be expensive and attritional for both sides, I'd think.  Sort of a landlubbers approach to things, but attrition favors the Allies, so it might be a wise approach by Wolfpack.  It also tends to isolate the Solomons and New Caledonia.  Another plus for the Allies.  Interesting appoach. 

Also interesting is how little the Allies have been able to take back by this date.  Even Baker Is. is still under the banner of the Rising Sun.  Perhaps some of Wolfpack's previous offensive strikes were a bit premature, resulting in heavy CV losses that are now retarding his ability to mount a renewed seaborne assault.

A game with so many viable strategies for both sides is a game destined to be played over and over.

To date has the IJN lost a CV?  I remember Akagi and Hiryu were seriously damaged, but I don't recall a CV actually sunk.  I's guess that both are back in service now. 


The Japanese have yet to lose an aircraft carrier. There is going to be a lot more information about Kido Butai coming soon in the AAR, so I won't say anything more about that now. Japanese estimates (emphasize estimates) of Allied carrier losses are between 5 and 8 CV's sunk, plus 3 or 4 CVL's and CVE's. It has definitely impeded the Allies' ability to launch amphibious attacks out of range of their land-based air cover to this point. Japanese intelligence is unsure how many carriers the Americans may have launched since the start of the war.


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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 1/2/2008 2:17:12 AM   
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The Japanese have yet to lose an aircraft carrier. ... Japanese estimates (emphasize estimates) of Allied carrier losses are between 5 and 8 CV's sunk, plus 3 or 4 CVL's and CVE's.


A fact that no doubt will significantly contribute to the longevity of this thread. (Much to the relief of all the dedicated followers I am sure.... )

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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 1/2/2008 11:10:59 PM   
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September 5, 1943

Location: Tokyo
Course: Disbanded in port
Attached to: None
Mission: None
System Damage: 0
Float Damage: 0
Fires: 0
Fuel: 475

Orders: Await further orders

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“Lieutenant Sugiyura hates me,” says Seaman Senior Kinsei mournfully. “He thinks I’m an idiot.” He is sitting on the floor of his bunk area looking at the left sleeve of his jacket. The sleeve is ripped and torn and looks like it has been savaged by wolves, but what really happened was that it got caught in a torpedo hoist. Only quick action by a very alert petty officer in shutting down the hoist saved Kinsei’s arm from being dragged into the mechanism and suffering a similar fate.

“Just be glad you still have your arm and get some sleep,” says his friend Hosogaya tiredly. Kinsei sighs. He knows he is not incompetent, but he got off on the wrong foot with his commanding officer and it seems that everything he does to try and improve the lieutenant’s opinion of him goes wrong. He sits on the floor trying to make some repairs to his sleeve, but finally gives it up as hopeless and crawls into his hammock for a few hours of sleep.

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“I hate him,” says Lieutenant Sugiyura. “He’s an idiot.” He and Lieutenant Miharu are seated in the officer’s wardroom going over crew evaluations. He has just delivered his opinion that the new torpedomen are working out fine, with the exception of Seaman Senior Kinsei.

Hibiki’s executive officer leans back and regards Lieutenant Sugiyura. Despite the torpedo officer’s aggressive, hard-driving nature Lieutenant Miharu knows that he is an excellent instructor. He is respected by his men as well as by his superiors. He works his men hard and his standards are very high, but he is also fair and looks after those under his command. This is by no means true of every officer in the Imperial Japanese Navy.

“I can tell you what Captain Ishii would say,” he tells Lieutenant Sugiyura, “because I have heard him say it many times. You are an officer, Lieutenant. Hate is not a luxury you can allow yourself.”

Lieutenant Sugiyura opens one hand. “I know,” he says. “But I confess I am at my wit’s end with this man.”

“His service record is excellent,” says Lieutenant Miharu, “as are his previous evaluations. What do you think has caused his problems here?”

“I don’t know,” says Sugiyura. “He is clumsy and accident-prone. It seems the harder he is pushed, the clumsier he becomes. I shudder to think what he will be like in actual combat.”

Lieutenant Miharu leans forward, clasping his hands on the table. “You are a torpedo officer,” he says. “Your approach to most problems is to attack, and if that does not work to attack harder. This is understandable, even laudable. But you might be facing a situation here where pushing harder is only making your problem worse.”

“What else is there to do?” Sugiyura asks.

“That,” says Lieutenant Miharu, “is for you to decide. If Kinsei does not work out we can reduce his rank and transfer him to someplace less critical. But if that happens, Lieutenant, I think you know that it would represent your failure as much as his.”

Lieutenant Sugiyura drops his gaze. “Yes,” he says. “I know that.” He meets Lieutenant Miharu’s eyes again. “I will give some thought to…less direct measures I might try.”

“Very good,” says Miharu. “I will look forward to your next report on the matter, then.” The two officers discuss several other things before Lieutenant Sugiyura departs. Lieutenant Miharu remains seated, filling out more of the inevitable paperwork.


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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 1/3/2008 1:14:23 AM   
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September 6, 1943

Location: Tokyo
Course: Disbanded in port
Attached to: None
Mission: None
System Damage: 0
Float Damage: 0
Fires: 0
Fuel: 475

Orders: Await further orders

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Though Hibiki is peacefully anchored in Tokyo Bay one enemy continues to stalk the ship. This enemy is persistent, pernicious, and takes advantage of every small weakness in the ship’s defenses. This enemy is rust.

Sea water is ideally suited to attack and damage steel. The water itself is loaded with chloride compounds, a marvelous substance for promoting electrolysis. Wind, surf, and the action of hull against water produce a fine spray which is rich in oxygen and settles everywhere. The salts and the oxygen produce a high rate of oxidation, a process that turns steel into brittle, flaking iron oxide, better known as rust.

The sea also has allies in the fight against steel. Sand, marine microorganisms, and larger marine creature such as barnacles can weaken or damage paint and other coatings designed to thwart rust. And because rust is permeable by both air and water the process, once started, can continue until the metal under attack is completely consumed.

The defense against this attack is hard, constant work. The chipper, the scraper, and the wire brush are the weapons wielded by Hibiki’s crew in an unceasing counterattack. And a quiet interlude such as the current stay in Tokyo Bay provides an ideal opportunity for the ship’s officers and petty officers to order the crew into the fray.

It cannot be said that the crew enjoys the work, any more than any crew in any navy has enjoyed the work since wooden hulls gave way to steel ones. But it is necessary. It also has the added benefit, at least from some points of view, of keeping the crew fully occupied while waiting for the next call to action.

Rust never sleeps. Hibiki’s crew does, but sometimes the sleep seems all too brief before they are awakened once more and sent back into action against their eternal enemy.


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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 1/3/2008 6:11:21 AM   
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Well written...

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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 1/3/2008 9:17:31 AM   
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Why do I have this sudden desire to listen to a Neil Young record?

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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 1/3/2008 4:02:55 PM   
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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 1/3/2008 4:33:10 PM   
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Why do I have this sudden desire to listen to a Neil Young record?



Perhaps you are a connisseur of whine?

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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 1/3/2008 8:25:02 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Cuttlefish

Rust never sleeps. Hibiki’s crew does, but sometimes the sleep seems all too brief before they are awakened once more and sent back into action against their eternal enemy.



Sounds like action soon






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RE: Small Ship, Big War - 1/3/2008 9:16:41 PM   
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Very well done Dixie

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