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RE: BB Kirishima sinks.. The battle of Java continues - 6/29/2007 11:24:50 PM   
aztez

 

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Status: offline 		Q-Ball: I actually never thought about bombing resource centers but what you said make perferct sense!!! ...basically what you are saying is that IF he looses enough resources than he needs to bring in the supplies to repair the oilfields elsewhere, correct??? That is very devious approach I must admit! ...damn, I really should start to understand the Japanese economy better since I'am playing with them in one of my other PBEM!

The Idea why I have bombed the Oil is to keep him from getting HI thus preventing him from expanding his airforce too quickly.

Toboali is intact... and I'am not sure he has actually landed there yet. (I will take a look when next turn arrives).. but one of the biggest resource centers are actually at Java to my knowledge. (Batavia, escpially)

Ouch, that is an agressive.. + 100 ships early??? ... January 1942 and Northern Oz is under assault??? I assume you skipped Luzon? That place is actually quite fortress. (IF I hand't blunder it already... damn)

Here is the current score. I especially like the aircraft losses section which is very good indeed.







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RE: BB Kirishima sinks.. The battle of Java continues - 6/29/2007 11:51:22 PM   
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Glad I could help! Bomb Resources, not Oil, that's my advice. Historically Japan lost the war on Oil, which is why it's a focus, but Resources are the bottleneck. Also, don't ever bomb Manpower. The Japanese have excess Manpower. In fact, Manpower consume resources, and you can't turn that off, so you are actually HELPING Japan if you bomb Manpower. Too many mouths to feed!

Once all the resources in the DEI are fixed, they are a supply source. There are something like 5000 resources total on Java, Sumatra, Borneo, Toboali, Kendari....that's 5000 supply per turn.

I'm not the production expert by any means, I am still figuring it out. But I do know that Resources are the limitation.

Losing all those transports is partly my fault, and partly a function of what you are trying to do as Japan early on. The #1 weapon for Japan early-on is the Nell/Betty. They completely shut down Allied shipping lanes. So, you are in a hurry to get airbases at Rabaul, PM, Koepang, Kendari, Kuching, etc etc, so that means sailing into trouble. Also, in Big B, it's easier for the Dutch to break through Cap and get bomb hits. My opponent also used his subs very well early on.

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RE: BB Kirishima sinks.. The battle of Java continues - 6/30/2007 3:25:20 AM   
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ORIGINAL: aztez

I actually never thought about bombing resource centers but what you said make perferct sense!!!


Hmmm...... I've thought about it! I just haven't had a good opportunity yet...

(BTW, I just realized I should let you know I'm reading this AAR and I'm still reading the one against Erstad. Since this game & ours are still early in the game, even if from different sides, I'll stay out of this one if you want.)

IMO a Java defense is certainly a viable option, particularly at this late date. Even if you take some losses, you can at least delay the Japanese another month or two. And then they'll need another month or two for their divisions to recover. By that time any deep invasions (India, deep into the South Pacific, etc.) would be extremely risky for them. Maybe I'm saying too much...

I may have missed a post or two - have you sent any ground reinforcements into Java?

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RE: BB Kirishima sinks.. The battle of Java continues - 6/30/2007 11:56:14 AM   
aztez

 

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Status: offline 		Q-Ball:  I looked at situation and It is too late to start bombing resources. He has way too much of it in Palembang and Balikpan.  ...time is running short too since he will capture Luzon soon! (Damn again) ...so I will bomb those oils to dust it should take quite a lot of time to repair those and it does consume supplies. (looking at the bright side of things)

As for Manpower I agree completely. I have an game againts Erstad almost the summer of 1945 and tested bombing Manpower at Home Islands. Definately not worth it as you said.

I do like Nell's and Betty's a lot due to their range and they are real pain when playing as allies. It sounds that you are making a lot of progress in your PBEM!

Oh and You might not an expert on production but what you said makes perfect sense! Oil was bottleneck RL but Resources are bottleneck in Witp.

 
Ctangus:      ...dont you start getting any ideas now Chuck!  ...I'am screwed as it is with Japan in our PBEM!
 
You are welcomed to read my AAR's. I have nothing againts that. As for the game againts Erstad where are actually reaching the summer of 1945!!! It feels somewhat odd... I mean it was quite longtime we started it... Dave will be out of town next week so that PBEM will be halted temporarily.

I think it will be May 1942 before Java falls... and it is an viable option to fight it out but than again it really depends on the situation.

As for deep raids... just be on your toes!!!

I haven't sent that much as in reinforcements to Java. (Ground troops)... but I have bulked up the ABDA airforce and the losses are piling up for both sides that is for sure.


Game date 8th of April 1942
 

Donnie stated on his email that things are about to get intresting... whatever that means is unsure but I would reckon that invasion of Java is about to begin.
 
 
DEI
 
 
Airstrikes againts Batavia and Soerabaja
 
 
Day Air attack on Batavia , at 19,59

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 31
G3M Nell x 104

Allied aircraft
Wirraway x 3
Hawk 75A x 1
CW-21B Demon x 2
Kittyhawk IA x 13

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed
G3M Nell: 5 destroyed, 3 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Wirraway: 2 destroyed
Hawk 75A: 2 destroyed
Kittyhawk IA: 6 damaged
B-17E Fortress: 1 destroyed


Allied ground losses:
44 casualties reported

Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 53

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Day Air attack on Soerabaja , at 22,65
 
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 11
G3M Nell x 13
G4M1 Betty x 11

Allied aircraft
Brewster 339D x 6
Kittyhawk IA x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M Nell: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Brewster 339D: 2 destroyed
Kittyhawk IA: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged

Runway hits 2

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Day Air attack on Batavia , at 19,59

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 30
G3M Nell x 95

Allied aircraft
Wirraway x 2
Hawk 75A x 2
CW-21B Demon x 2
Kittyhawk IA x 4

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed
G3M Nell: 1 destroyed, 7 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Wirraway: 1 destroyed
Hawk 75A: 1 destroyed


Allied ground losses:
40 casualties reported

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 36
 
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Day Air attack on Soerabaja , at 22,65
 
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 16
G3M Nell x 14
G4M1 Betty x 7

Allied aircraft
Brewster 339D x 5
Kittyhawk IA x 7

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 3 destroyed, 1 damaged
G3M Nell: 4 damaged
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Brewster 339D: 2 damaged
Kittyhawk IA: 1 destroyed
F.K.51: 1 destroyed

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 1


That is serious business right there. Donnie also managed to hit couple of my RN ships docked at Batavia. Anyway, he is loosing fighters and bombers too so basically this is battle of attrition.
 
 
Palembang Oilfields
 
 
Day Air attack on Palembang , at 20,55

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 6
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 31

Allied aircraft
B-17D Fortress x 9
B-17E Fortress x 34

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 damaged
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 3 destroyed, 6 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
B-17D Fortress: 1 destroyed, 7 damaged
B-17E Fortress: 19 damaged

Oil hits 15

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Day Air attack on Palembang , at 20,55

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 8
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 30

Allied aircraft
B-17D Fortress x 6
B-17E Fortress x 28

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 4 damaged
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 3 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
B-17D Fortress: 6 damaged
B-17E Fortress: 20 damaged

Oil hits 11


As I said above to Q-Ball it is too late to focus bombings onto resource centers. Allthough I do agree with that it might have been even more worthy target.
 

Other NEWS


At Luzon Manila is about to fall. Donnie has moved some 21 units into capital and more is on reserve.

At DEI some ABDA bombers managed to break through enemy CAP and bomb enemy BB's. Unfortunately no hits reported.

At Ichang my assault againts the base failed. I'am keeping Donnie on his toes. The Chinese troops trapped South of Homan are now wiped out. That is 50 000 troops lost.

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RE: BB Kirishima sinks.. The battle of Java continues - 6/30/2007 11:00:04 PM   
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Another turn and a lot of action around Java. Donnie stated that his aircraft losses are heavier than his production at the moment but he intends to be fully committed into battle.


DEI


Air to air battles from DEI


Day Air attack on TF, near Batavia at 19,59

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 17
G3M Nell x 53

Allied aircraft
Wirraway x 6
Hawk 75A x 1
P-40E-1-CU Warhawk x 25

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 4 destroyed
G3M Nell: 13 destroyed, 27 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Wirraway: 1 destroyed
P-40E-1-CU Warhawk: 2 destroyed, 3 damaged

Allied Ships
DD Isis
CL Mauritius
CLAA Capetown
CA Dorsetshire, Torpedo hits 1

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Day Air attack on TF, near Batavia at 19,59

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 3
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 18
D3A Val x 8
B5N Kate x 17

Allied aircraft
Hawk 75A x 1
P-40E-1-CU Warhawk x 23

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 4 destroyed
D3A Val: 1 destroyed
B5N Kate: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-40E-1-CU Warhawk: 1 destroyed, 5 damaged

Allied Ships
CL Glasgow, Bomb hits 1, heavy damage

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Day Air attack on TF, near Batavia at 19,59

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 18
G3M Nell x 12
G4M1 Betty x 21

Allied aircraft
Wirraway x 5
Hawk 75A x 1
P-40E-1-CU Warhawk x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 5 destroyed, 2 damaged
G3M Nell: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged
G4M1 Betty: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Wirraway: 2 destroyed
P-40E-1-CU Warhawk: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
CA Dorsetshire

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Day Air attack on TF, near Batavia at 19,59

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 8
G3M Nell x 3

Allied aircraft
P-40E-1-CU Warhawk x 8

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed
G3M Nell: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-40E-1-CU Warhawk: 1 destroyed

Allied Ships
CA Dorsetshire

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Day Air attack on TF, near Batavia at 19,59

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 12
G3M Nell x 50

Allied aircraft
Wirraway x 3
Hawk 75A x 4
P-40E-1-CU Warhawk x 19

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 2 destroyed
G3M Nell: 6 destroyed, 25 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Wirraway: 1 destroyed
Hawk 75A: 1 destroyed

Allied Ships
CLAA Capetown, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
CL Mauritius
CA Dorsetshire
DD Tjerk Hiddes

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Day Air attack on TF, near Batavia at 19,59

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 3
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 24
D3A Val x 7
B5N Kate x 15

Allied aircraft
P-40E-1-CU Warhawk x 19

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-40E-1-CU Warhawk: 2 destroyed, 7 damaged

Allied Ships
CL Glasgow, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage


That is a lot of aircraft shot to pieces. I would assume this carnage is only going to get tougher. Japan has actually now lost more aircraft than allies in total!

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RN clash with KB.. IJN BB hit hard.. Battle of Java con... - 7/1/2007 9:12:39 AM   
aztez

 

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Status: offline 		Phew. Quite a lot of action to report again. This is 4 day update.


Game date is 14th of April 1942
 
 
DEI
 
 
Air to Air battles around DEI
 
 
Day Air attack on TF, near Batavia at 19,59
 
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 8
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 19
D3A Val x 7
Ki-21 Sally x 18

Allied aircraft
Wirraway x 6
Hawk 75A x 4
Kittyhawk IA x 3
P-40E-1-CU Warhawk x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 5 destroyed
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 4 destroyed, 2 damaged
D3A Val: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged
Ki-21 Sally: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Wirraway: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged
Hawk 75A: 1 destroyed
P-40E-1-CU Warhawk: 6 damaged

Allied Ships
CL Mauritius, Bomb hits 4,  on fire,  heavy damage
CA Dorsetshire, Bomb hits 3,  on fire,  heavy damage
DD Paladin

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Day Air attack on TF, near Batavia at 19,59
 
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 25
G3M Nell x 18
G4M1 Betty x 36

Allied aircraft
Wirraway x 1
Hawk 75A x 1
Kittyhawk IA x 3
P-40E-1-CU Warhawk x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 3 destroyed
G3M Nell: 2 damaged
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed, 8 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Kittyhawk IA: 1 damaged
P-40E-1-CU Warhawk: 2 destroyed, 5 damaged

Allied Ships
CL Mauritius, Torpedo hits 4,  on fire,  heavy damage
CA Dorsetshire, Torpedo hits 2,  on fire,  heavy damage
DD Panther
DD Paladin, Torpedo hits 1,  on fire,  heavy damage
DD Isis

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Day Air attack on TF, near Batavia at 19,59
 
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 8
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 14
D3A Val x 6
Ki-21 Sally x 12

Allied aircraft
Wirraway x 2
Hawk 75A x 3
Kittyhawk IA x 3
P-40E-1-CU Warhawk x 8

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 2 destroyed
D3A Val: 1 damaged
Ki-21 Sally: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Kittyhawk IA: 1 damaged
P-40E-1-CU Warhawk: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged

Allied Ships
CA Dorsetshire, Bomb hits 7,  on fire,  heavy damage
DD Paladin,  heavy damage
DD Tjerk Hiddes, Bomb hits 1


Ok. Quite a few aircraft lost again. Unfortunately those RN ships are now pretty much good as sunk. That is acceptable though.
 

Allied LBA vs Enemy shipping near DEI
 
 
This went better than expected.
 
 
Day Air attack on TF, near Palembang at 20,55
 
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 5
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 18

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 13

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 damaged
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
PG Kure Maru #5, Bomb hits 3,  on fire,  heavy damage
AK Asakasan Maru, Bomb hits 3,  on fire
AK Atago Maru, Bomb hits 4,  on fire,  heavy damage

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Day Air attack on TF, near Palembang at 20,55

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 3
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 16

Allied aircraft
P-40E-1-CU Warhawk x 4
B-17E Fortress x 12

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
P-40E-1-CU Warhawk: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
B-17E Fortress: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
AK Awazisan Maru, Bomb hits 1
AK Atago Maru, Bomb hits 1,  on fire,  heavy damage
AK Asakasan Maru,  on fire
MSW W.11, Bomb hits 3,  on fire,  heavy damage
MSW W.6, Bomb hits 2,  on fire,  heavy damage

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Day Air attack on TF at 23,55
 
Japanese aircraft
F1M2 Pete x 1

Allied aircraft
B-17D Fortress x 6
B-17E Fortress x 35

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-17D Fortress: 1 destroyed
B-17E Fortress: 3 damaged

Japanese Ships
BB Kongo, Bomb hits 12,  on fire
CA Ashigara
BB Haruna, Bomb hits 13,  on fire
BB Hiei, Bomb hits 1

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Day Air attack on TF at 23,55

Japanese aircraft
F1M2 Pete x 1

Allied aircraft
B-17D Fortress x 3
B-17E Fortress x 25

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
BB Haruna, Bomb hits 3,  on fire
BB Kongo, Bomb hits 10,  on fire
CA Mikuma
BB Hiei, Bomb hits 8,  on fire

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Day Air attack on TF at 24,60

Japanese aircraft
F1M2 Pete x 1

Allied aircraft
CW-21B Demon x 5
Brewster 339D x 4
Martin 139 x 11
Hudson I x 14
Beaufort V-IX x 6
B-25C Mitchell x 12
B-26B Marauder x 15

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Martin 139: 1 destroyed
Hudson I: 1 damaged
B-26B Marauder: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
BB Kongo, Bomb hits 10,  on fire
DD Shikinami
BB Haruna, Bomb hits 11,  on fire
CA Tone
BB Hiei, Bomb hits 1,  on fire

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Day Air attack on TF at 24,60
 

Allied aircraft
B-17D Fortress x 2
B-17E Fortress x 9


Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
BB Haruna, Bomb hits 9,  on fire

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Day Air attack on TF at 24,60


Allied aircraft
B-17D Fortress x 3
B-17E Fortress x 23


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
BB Hiei, Bomb hits 7,  on fire
BB Haruna, Bomb hits 5,  on fire
CA Mikuma, Bomb hits 2,  on fire
BB Kongo, Bomb hits 3,  on fire
CA Tone
CA Maya, Bomb hits 1

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Day Air attack on TF at 24,60
 
Japanese aircraft
F1M2 Pete x 1

Allied aircraft
CW-21B Demon x 5
Brewster 339D x 5
Martin 139 x 9
Hudson I x 6
Beaufort V-IX x 6
P-40E-1-CU Warhawk x 8
B-25C Mitchell x 10
B-26B Marauder x 9
B-17D Fortress x 3
B-17E Fortress x 19

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
BB Haruna, Bomb hits 2,  on fire
CA Ashigara, Bomb hits 1,  on fire
CA Tone
DD Arare
BB Hiei, Bomb hits 5,  on fire
BB Kongo, Bomb hits 13,  on fire
CA Mogami, Bomb hits 4,  on fire
CA Maya, Bomb hits 2


!!! He toyed with his BB fleet a turn too many at DEI. According to Donnie the damage is severe and "they are lucky if they make home".
 
At least those ships should be out of action for sometime.
 
 
RN vs KB
 
 
Day Air attack on TF at 13,61
 
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 48
F1M2 Pete x 16

Allied aircraft
Sea Gladiator x 5
Sea Hurricane Ib x 7
Swordfish x 26

Japanese aircraft losses
F1M2 Pete: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Sea Gladiator: 4 destroyed
Sea Hurricane Ib: 3 destroyed, 1 damaged
Swordfish: 15 destroyed

Japanese Ships
BB Fuso
DD Shiratsuyu
CV Zuikaku
CV Shokaku, Torpedo hits 2,  on fire

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Day Air attack on TF at 14,62

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 23
D3A Val x 14
B5N Kate x 28

Allied aircraft
Sea Gladiator x 7
Sea Hurricane Ib x 27

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
D3A Val: 2 destroyed, 10 damaged
B5N Kate: 9 destroyed, 10 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Sea Gladiator: 1 destroyed
Sea Hurricane Ib: 4 destroyed, 5 damaged

Allied Ships
CVL Hermes
CV Indomitable, Bomb hits 3
CLAA Ceres
CV Formidable, Torpedo hits 1

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Day Air attack on TF at 14,62

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 9
B5N Kate x 18

Allied aircraft
Sea Gladiator x 3
Sea Hurricane Ib x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 2 destroyed
B5N Kate: 3 destroyed, 12 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Sea Gladiator: 1 damaged
Sea Hurricane Ib: 8 destroyed

Allied Ships
CV Indomitable, Torpedo hits 1,  on fire
CV Formidable

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Day Air attack on TF at 14,62
 
Japanese aircraft
D3A Val x 17

Allied aircraft
Sea Gladiator x 4
Sea Hurricane Ib x 8

Japanese aircraft losses
D3A Val: 5 destroyed, 7 damaged


Allied Ships
CVL Hermes, Bomb hits 2
CV Indomitable,  on fire
CV Formidable, Bomb hits 1,  on fire

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Day Air attack on TF at 14,62

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 3
B5N Kate x 11

Allied aircraft
Sea Gladiator x 6
Sea Hurricane Ib x 13

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed
B5N Kate: 5 destroyed, 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Sea Gladiator: 1 destroyed
Sea Hurricane Ib: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
CV Indomitable,  on fire
CV Formidable,  on fire
CVL Hermes


Not too bad. CV Shokaku should be out of action for some time and he lost quite a few precious navy pilots. Oh, and I do love British armour on their carriers!

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RE: RN clash with KB.. IJN BB hit hard.. Battle of Java... - 7/1/2007 9:13:39 AM   
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RE: RN clash with KB.. IJN BB hit hard.. Battle of Java... - 7/1/2007 11:49:16 AM   
aztez

 

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Status: offline 		Game date is 16th April 1942
 
 
DEI
 
 
Air to Air battles over at Java
 
 
The Japanese airforce launched large airstrikes againts Batavia and Soerabaja.
 
 
Day Air attack on Batavia , at 19,59
 
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 43
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 29
Ki-21 Sally x 46

Allied aircraft
Hawk 75A x 8
P-40E-1-CU Warhawk x 21

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 7 destroyed, 1 damaged
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 8 destroyed
Ki-21 Sally: 11 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Hawk 75A: 2 destroyed, 3 damaged
P-40E-1-CU Warhawk: 10 destroyed, 2 damaged
B-17E Fortress: 1 destroyed
Beaufort V-IX: 1 destroyed


Allied ground losses:
78 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 7
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 20
Port hits 2
Port supply hits 3

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Day Air attack on Soerabaja , at 22,65

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 47

Allied aircraft
Wirraway x 3
Brewster 339D x 17
Kittyhawk IA x 26

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 16 destroyed, 2 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Wirraway: 2 destroyed
Brewster 339D: 9 destroyed
Kittyhawk IA: 3 destroyed, 6 damaged

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Day Air attack on Batavia , at 19,59
 
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 22
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 15
Ki-21 Sally x 35

Allied aircraft
Hawk 75A x 7
P-40E-1-CU Warhawk x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Hawk 75A: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged
P-40E-1-CU Warhawk: 2 destroyed, 5 damaged


Allied ground losses:
17 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 8
Port hits 2
Port fuel hits 1

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Day Air attack on Soerabaja , at 22,65

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 33

Allied aircraft
Wirraway x 4
Brewster 339D x 7
Kittyhawk IA x 22

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 6 destroyed, 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Wirraway: 1 destroyed
Brewster 339D: 5 destroyed
Kittyhawk IA: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged


Yet again quite a few aircraft shot to pieces. Hopefully those were elite Zero pilots.
 
 
KB strikes againts RN Carriers
 
 
This was somewhat one sided unfortunately.
 
 
Day Air attack on TF at 12,63

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 39
F1M2 Pete x 16

Allied aircraft
Swordfish x 3

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Swordfish: 2 destroyed

Japanese Ships
CVE Hosho

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Day Air attack on TF at 15,63

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 23
D3A Val x 5
B5N Kate x 5

Allied aircraft
Sea Gladiator x 8
Sea Hurricane Ib x 16

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 2 destroyed
D3A Val: 3 destroyed
B5N Kate: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Sea Gladiator: 3 destroyed
Sea Hurricane Ib: 4 destroyed, 3 damaged

Allied Ships
CV Formidable
CV Indomitable,  on fire

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Day Air attack on TF at 15,63

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 4
B5N Kate x 4

Allied aircraft
Sea Gladiator x 5
Sea Hurricane Ib x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed
B5N Kate: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged


Allied Ships
CV Formidable

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Day Air attack on TF at 15,63
 
Japanese aircraft
B5N Kate x 8

Allied aircraft
Sea Gladiator x 5
Sea Hurricane Ib x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N Kate: 3 destroyed, 2 damaged


Allied Ships
CV Indomitable,  on fire
CVL Hermes

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Day Air attack on TF at 15,63

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 22
B5N Kate x 3

Allied aircraft
Sea Gladiator x 3
Sea Hurricane Ib x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 2 destroyed
B5N Kate: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Sea Hurricane Ib: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged

Allied Ships
CVL Hermes

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Day Air attack on TF at 15,63

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 15
D3A Val x 4
B5N Kate x 9

Allied aircraft
Sea Gladiator x 5
Sea Hurricane Ib x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed
D3A Val: 3 damaged
B5N Kate: 3 destroyed, 3 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Sea Gladiator: 1 destroyed
Sea Hurricane Ib: 6 destroyed

Allied Ships
CV Indomitable, Torpedo hits 1,  on fire,  heavy damage
CV Formidable
CVL Hermes, Bomb hits 1,  on fire


That was expected to happen. At least he lost quite a few elite naval pilots too!


Allied LBA strikes againts enemy Ships
 
 
Day Air attack on TF at 24,54

Japanese aircraft
F1M2 Pete x 1

Allied aircraft
B-17D Fortress x 3
B-17E Fortress x 32

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
CA Maya
BB Hiei,  on fire
CL Abukuma
CA Tone, Bomb hits 1
CA Ashigara, Bomb hits 1
DD Isokaze

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Day Air attack on TF at 24,54

Japanese aircraft
F1M2 Pete x 1

Allied aircraft
B-17D Fortress x 3

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
BB Haruna,  on fire

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Day Air attack on TF at 24,54
 
Japanese aircraft
F1M2 Pete x 1

Allied aircraft
B-17D Fortress x 6
B-17E Fortress x 28

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
BB Hiei, Bomb hits 2,  on fire
CA Tone
DD Maikaze
CL Abukuma


None of these ships are confirmed sunk. I do hope that some of those BB's will go beneath the waves.
 
 
Paratroop activity at DEI
 
Also Donnie seized Teloekbetoeng with large paratroop assault!

 
Ground combat at Teloekbetoeng

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 14919 troops, 188 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 650

Defending force 3783 troops, 56 guns, 3 vehicles, Assault Value = 24

Japanese max assault: 582 - adjusted assault: 912

Allied max defense: 21 - adjusted defense: 12

Japanese assault odds: 76 to 1 (fort level 2)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Teloekbetoeng base !!!



Allied aircraft
no flights


Allied aircraft losses
Martin 139: 3 destroyed
CW-22 Falcon: 4 destroyed

Japanese ground losses:
163 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Allied ground losses:
4904 casualties reported
Guns lost 35

That was totally unexpected and personally I never seen anything like it before!

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RE: BB Kirishima sinks.. The battle of Java continues - 7/1/2007 5:19:42 PM   
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ORIGINAL: aztez

Game date is 10th of April 1944


Another turn and a lot of action around Java. Donnie stated that his aircraft losses are heavier than his production at the moment but he intends to be fully committed into battle.


DEI


Air to air battles from DEI


Day Air attack on TF, near Batavia at 19,59

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 17
G3M Nell x 53

Allied aircraft
Wirraway x 6
Hawk 75A x 1
P-40E-1-CU Warhawk x 25

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 4 destroyed
G3M Nell: 13 destroyed, 27 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Wirraway: 1 destroyed
P-40E-1-CU Warhawk: 2 destroyed, 3 damaged

Allied Ships
DD Isis
CL Mauritius
CLAA Capetown
CA Dorsetshire, Torpedo hits 1

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looks like you were lucky here! So many bombers and only one torp hit! low experienced pilots already?

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RE: RN clash with KB.. IJN BB hit hard.. Battle of Java... - 7/1/2007 5:27:19 PM   
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ORIGINAL: aztez
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Day Air attack on TF at 24,54

Japanese aircraft
F1M2 Pete x 1

Allied aircraft
B-17D Fortress x 3

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
BB Haruna,  on fire

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Day Air attack on TF at 24,54
 
Japanese aircraft
F1M2 Pete x 1

Allied aircraft
B-17D Fortress x 6
B-17E Fortress x 28

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
BB Hiei, Bomb hits 2,  on fire
CA Tone
DD Maikaze
CL Abukuma


None of these ships are confirmed sunk. I do hope that some of those BB's will go beneath the waves.



can´t see anything why those BBs should sink! I don´t even think that they suffered damage! Why should they be damaged? None of your bombs penetrated so what should have caused real damage. Perhaps a couple of sys points more but that´s it IMO. BBs are the only ships in Brian´s mod that are bomb proof (except those 2000 lb AP bombs).

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RE: RN clash with KB.. IJN BB hit hard.. Battle of Java... - 7/1/2007 5:35:05 PM   
aztez

 

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Status: offline 		castor troy: Thanks for the feedback/input and questions. I don't have a clue about IJA pilot experience but the losses have been very high for both sides. I would assume that those pilots are fatigued and low morale... maybe he is having issues with pilots pools too. He has lost some 1700 aircraft already and a lot of them are from air to air combats.

As for the BB's well they propably are immune as you said. (Just been very unlucky that my Beauforts have been unable to hit them with torpedoes... they just refuse to take off a lot of times )

Allthough Donnie did state following regarding his BB's and CV's:

"Your B17s inflicted about 50 hits on my BBs sailing past South Bornea then your whole Java air force hit them and put about another 100-150 500lb bomb hits on them.  They will be lucky to make it home.
 Spotted the British CVs!  They got the first strike in and hit KB.  Our counter attack did OK but another damaged ship with two torpedo holes below the waterline will be almost impossible to save." Basically he said that those BB's are severely damaged.. allthough this might propaganda and FOW!  ...but I think CV Shokaku is doomed... 2 torpedoes = At least a lot of yard time.

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RE: RN clash with KB.. IJN BB hit hard.. Battle of Java... - 7/1/2007 6:01:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		ooops, I must have missed something. 200x500 lb bomb hits on the BBs? Well, they won´t sink as those bomb hits can´t penetrate the armor, but the fires should have done a little more damage than just a couple of points of sys damage, would gues they are around 20 sys damage now.

But the statement about the BBs being lucky to make it back home is certainly propaganda!

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RE: RN clash with KB.. IJN BB hit hard.. Battle of Java... - 7/1/2007 7:44:44 PM   
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Status: offline 		Castor .. that thought occured to me too . BB's don't sink from 500lb bombs . might lose a bit of secondary armourment but thats about it afaik .. maybe he's spoofing you Aztez ?

Also that carrier attack too . darn lucky imo .. left KB with NO rookie pilots and full compliments iirc so unless lots have been atritted he should still have anm elite force. And he's being a bit careless with the new arrived trained ones too. (unlikely).

Actually did rather well there imo Aztez .. those old R Class Brit BB's are hard to get into meaningful combat with thier woeful speed . you docked them in batavia for a final try at saving them ? I'm glad to see donnie using the paras in meaningful attacks .. sort of continuing my tradition .. VP-Andaman is-Akyab :) .. sabang was prepping next but he's obviously changed all that so not letting any secrets out there. Be very very careful garissoning your indian bases on the border with burma after that massed attack.

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RE: RN clash with KB.. IJN BB hit hard.. Battle of Java... - 7/1/2007 9:06:18 PM   
aztez

 

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Status: offline 		Castor & Rob: I think you guys are correct. He was definately bluffing by the looks of things. Too bad I didn't get any good torpedo runs previous turn.

I think I did Ok with those British BB's. As Rob said they are slow and I haven't found much of a use for them in my earlier PBEM's. At least they went down fighting. Actually those BB's were enroute towards Palembang when they met their destiny. (I had them on surface combat orders)

Yeah, definately need to keep an eye for those paratroopers. He did land in some 13 000 men in single turn!


Game date is 18th of April 1942
 
 
DEI
 
 
Batavia hammered by IJA airforce


Day Air attack on Batavia , at 19,59
 
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 9
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 27
Ki-21 Sally x 21

Allied aircraft
Sea Hurricane Ib x 1
Brewster 339D x 7
P-40E-1-CU Warhawk x 13

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 5 destroyed
Ki-21 Sally: 2 destroyed, 12 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Sea Hurricane Ib: 1 damaged
Brewster 339D: 3 destroyed, 1 damaged
P-40E-1-CU Warhawk: 4 destroyed, 6 damaged
B-17E Fortress: 1 destroyed
Hawk 75A: 1 destroyed


Allied ground losses:
20 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 1

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 13

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Day Air attack on Batavia , at 19,59
 
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 34
G3M Nell x 21
G4M1 Betty x 9
Ki-21 Sally x 24
Ki-49 Helen x 26

Allied aircraft
P-40E-1-CU Warhawk x 11

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 2 destroyed
G3M Nell: 1 destroyed
G4M1 Betty: 1 damaged
Ki-21 Sally: 2 damaged
Ki-49 Helen: 5 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-40E-1-CU Warhawk: 9 destroyed
B-17E Fortress: 4 destroyed
Beaufort V-IX: 2 destroyed


Allied ground losses:
26 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 8
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 42

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Day Air attack on Batavia , at 19,59

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 22
G3M Nell x 35
G4M1 Betty x 63

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 damaged
G4M1 Betty: 6 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-40E-1-CU Warhawk: 11 destroyed
B-17E Fortress: 2 destroyed
Hawk 75A: 3 destroyed
Beaufort V-IX: 1 destroyed


Allied ground losses:
6 casualties reported

Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 32

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Day Air attack on Batavia , at 19,59
 
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 23
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 13
G3M Nell x 35
G4M1 Betty x 49

Allied aircraft
Brewster 339D x 3
P-40E-1-CU Warhawk x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M Nell: 2 destroyed, 7 damaged
G4M1 Betty: 7 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Brewster 339D: 4 destroyed
P-40E-1-CU Warhawk: 4 destroyed
Beaufort V-IX: 3 destroyed
B-17E Fortress: 3 destroyed
Hawk 75A: 1 destroyed


Allied ground losses:
29 casualties reported

Airbase hits 10
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 45


Damn. This shows that Donnie means business. Quite an massive scale of air operation againts Batavia.
 

Royal Navy meet destiny near Java
 
 
Day Air attack on TF at 16,64
 
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 21
D3A Val x 7
B5N Kate x 16

Allied aircraft
Sea Gladiator x 4
Sea Hurricane Ib x 5

Japanese aircraft losses
D3A Val: 5 damaged
B5N Kate: 4 destroyed, 8 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Sea Hurricane Ib: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged

Allied Ships
CVL Hermes, Torpedo hits 1,  heavy damage
CV Formidable, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 2,  on fire
CV Indomitable, Torpedo hits 1,  on fire,  heavy damage

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Day Air attack on TF at 16,64
 
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 2
G4M1 Betty x 6

Allied aircraft
Sea Gladiator x 4
Sea Hurricane Ib x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged


Allied Ships
CV Indomitable,  on fire,  heavy damage
CV Formidable,  on fire

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Day Air attack on TF at 17,64
 
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 6
D3A Val x 2
B5N Kate x 1

Japanese aircraft losses
D3A Val: 1 destroyed
B5N Kate: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
CV Formidable

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Day Air attack on TF at 17,64

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 13
B5N Kate x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N Kate: 2 destroyed, 6 damaged

Allied Ships
CV Formidable
CVL Hermes, Torpedo hits 2,  on fire,  heavy damage

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Day Air attack on TF at 17,64

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 2
D3A Val x 2
B5N Kate x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
D3A Val: 2 damaged
B5N Kate: 2 damaged

Allied Ships
CV Indomitable, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1,  on fire,  heavy damage
CV Formidable, Torpedo hits 1,  on fire


The ships are badly mauled and crews are ordered to be on standby. RN Captains will issue abandon ships command soon. Well, they served their purpose and we salute them!
 
 
Japanese BB TF hit near Java
 
 
Day Air attack on TF at 23,70

Japanese aircraft
F1M2 Pete x 2

Allied aircraft
Martin 139 x 9
Beaufort V-IX x 16

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Martin 139: 2 destroyed, 4 damaged
Beaufort V-IX: 1 destroyed, 10 damaged

Japanese Ships
BB Mutsu
CA Kako
BB Nagato
BB Yamashiro
BB Hyuga

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Day Air attack on TF at 23,70

Japanese aircraft
F1M2 Pete x 2

Allied aircraft
Martin 139 x 5
Beaufort V-IX x 9

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Martin 139: 1 damaged
Beaufort V-IX: 1 destroyed, 7 damaged

Japanese Ships
BB Yamashiro, Bomb hits 1
BB Hyuga
BB Nagato, Torpedo hits 3,  on fire,  heavy damage

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Day Air attack on TF at 25,70


Allied aircraft
Martin 139 x 6
Beaufort V-IX x 5


Allied aircraft losses
Martin 139: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
BB Nagato, Bomb hits 4,  on fire,  heavy damage


At least BB Nagato is in deep trouble after those torpedo hits!!! Allthough he has a lot of operational capital ships around Java.

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RE: RN clash with KB.. IJN BB hit hard.. Battle of Java... - 7/2/2007 8:20:30 PM   
aztez

 

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Lets start with the BB's we have discussed.

"No, those BB's are hurt pretty bad.  Not a lot of float but a good deal of system, primarily from the fires I think." ..so basically he is saying it is not propaganda and those ships are actually hurt. Well, that is good news. Also, Donnie said that BB Nagato is doomed. She becomes the 2nd IJN BB to be sunk in this war.
 
 
Game date is 20th of April 1942
 
 
DEI
 
 
Soerabaja inflicts damage to enemy LBA's
 
 
Day Air attack on Soerabaja , at 22,65
 
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 14
G3M Nell x 66
G4M1 Betty x 8

Allied aircraft
Wirraway x 4
Brewster 339D x 14
Kittyhawk IA x 36

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 5 destroyed, 3 damaged
G3M Nell: 17 destroyed, 21 damaged
G4M1 Betty: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Wirraway: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged
Brewster 339D: 8 destroyed
Kittyhawk IA: 3 destroyed, 14 damaged
B-17E Fortress: 1 destroyed
B-17D Fortress: 1 destroyed


Good! Quite a few Nells shot down with reasonable defensive losses. I wonder what kind of an force he will bring in next turn.
 
Allied B17 bombers found couple of enemy vessels near Balikpapan.
 
 
Day Air attack on TF, near Balikpapan at 31,64
 
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 4
Ki-27 Nate x 17

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-27 Nate: 2 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 4 damaged

Japanese Ships
AK Azumasan Maru, Bomb hits 1
CL Kuma, Bomb hits 2,  on fire
AK Chile Maru, Bomb hits 1,  on fire


I guess that is better than nothing!
 
Batavia was heavily bombed too. Thankfully I had withdrewn most of my airpower there.
 
 
RN carriers finished off
 
 
Day Air attack on TF at 18,63

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 43
G4M1 Betty x 46

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
CVL Hermes, Torpedo hits 2,  on fire,  heavy damage
CV Indomitable, Torpedo hits 1,  on fire,  heavy damage

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Day Air attack on TF, near Tjilitjap at 19,62
 
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 9
G4M1 Betty x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 3 damaged

Allied Ships
CLAA Ceres, Torpedo hits 1,  on fire,  heavy damage

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Day Air attack on TF, near Tjilitjap at 19,62

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 35
G4M1 Betty x 23

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed, 7 damaged

Allied Ships
CV Formidable, Torpedo hits 5,  on fire,  heavy damage


CV Formidable, CVL Hermes and CV Indomitable are now sunk. Well, I hope I took with them CV Shokaku! If not than she will live to see another day after repairs.
 
All in all exciting maneuver that was fun to plan.
 
Now I really need to look my other options. There are quite a few intresting prospects laying.
 
Btw, sometimes I do feel I'am playing againts Nemo!!! Wierd but actual feeling!
 
 

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RE: RN clash with KB.. IJN BB hit hard.. Battle of Java... - 7/3/2007 6:40:56 PM   
aztez

 

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Status: offline 		Another turn passed. IJA airforce has really stepped up the campaign in DEI inflicting serious losses!
 
 
Game date is 22nd of April 1942
 
 
Japanese airforce hits Java hard
 
 
Day Air attack on Bandoeng , at 19,61

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 28
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 38
Ki-21 Sally x 28
Ki-49 Helen x 24

Allied aircraft
Hawk 75A x 5
CW-21B Demon x 8
Brewster 339D x 1
P-40E-1-CU Warhawk x 10

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 2 destroyed
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 10 destroyed, 1 damaged
Ki-21 Sally: 3 damaged
Ki-49 Helen: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Hawk 75A: 4 destroyed
CW-21B Demon: 4 destroyed, 1 damaged
Brewster 339D: 1 destroyed
P-40E-1-CU Warhawk: 2 destroyed, 6 damaged
B-26B Marauder: 2 destroyed
Beaufort V-IX: 1 destroyed


Allied ground losses:
5 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 7

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Day Air attack on Malang , at 22,66

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 27
G3M Nell x 19
G4M1 Betty x 8

Allied aircraft
no flights

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Beaufort V-IX: 3 destroyed
Vildebeest IV: 2 destroyed


Allied ground losses:
7 casualties reported

Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 21

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Day Air attack on Malang , at 22,66
 
Japanese aircraft
G3M Nell x 52

Allied aircraft
no flights

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Beaufort V-IX: 2 destroyed
Vildebeest IV: 3 destroyed
Martin 139: 2 destroyed


Allied ground losses:
41 casualties reported
Guns lost 1
Vehicles lost 1

Airbase hits 9
Runway hits 20

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Day Air attack on Bandoeng , at 19,61
 
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 27
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 34
Ki-21 Sally x 21
Ki-49 Helen x 17

Allied aircraft
Hawk 75A x 3
CW-21B Demon x 4
P-40E-1-CU Warhawk x 8

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged
Ki-21 Sally: 2 damaged
Ki-49 Helen: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Hawk 75A: 1 destroyed
CW-21B Demon: 3 destroyed
P-40E-1-CU Warhawk: 3 destroyed, 2 damaged
Beaufort V-IX: 2 destroyed


Allied ground losses:
24 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 2

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Day Air attack on Malang , at 22,66

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 13
G3M Nell x 14
G4M1 Betty x 7

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M Nell: 1 damaged
G4M1 Betty: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Martin 139: 1 destroyed
Vildebeest IV: 1 destroyed


Allied ground losses:
6 casualties reported

Airbase hits 3
Runway hits 12


That shows how serious Donnie is regarding Java now. I do expect him to start landing troops soon. A lot of transport ships are spotted near Balikpan. My B17's managed to hit couple of AP/AK's not much else... these squadrons are fatigued I will propably withdrew them soon enough. (No need drain the pools more)
 

KB Hunts down RN crippled ships
 
 
Day Air attack on TF at 11,57

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 20
D3A Val x 11
B5N Kate x 21

Japanese aircraft losses
D3A Val: 1 damaged
B5N Kate: 1 destroyed, 7 damaged

Allied Ships
CLAA Van Heemskerck
CLAA Caledon, Bomb hits 4, Torpedo hits 2,  on fire,  heavy damage
DD Foxhound, Torpedo hits 1,  on fire,  heavy damage
DD Decoy

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Day Air attack on TF at 11,57
 
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 3
D3A Val x 8
B5N Kate x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N Kate: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged

Allied Ships
DD Fortune
CLAA Columbo, Torpedo hits 2,  on fire,  heavy damage
CLAA Van Heemskerck, Bomb hits 1


This was expected to happen. At least these guys gave it their best and I might be able to salvage few RN ships from Java too. Otherwise RN is already reorganizing in India and is still a force to be reckon with.
 
Allied HQ has no comments about the future plans. A lot of ideas are floating around though.

BB Nagato is confirmed sunk now!


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RE: RN clash with KB.. IJN BB hit hard.. Battle of Java... - 7/4/2007 8:17:24 PM   
aztez

 

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Status: offline 		Ok. Donnie continued with his airstrikes around the DEI. A lot of planes were lost on the ground. He also landed an paratroop unit at Merak and seized the base. Naturally I will try squeeze the beachhead before it gets larger.
 

Game date is 24th of April 1942


DEI
 
 
Japanese airforce strikes Java
 
 
 
Day Air attack on Bandoeng , at 19,61

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 27
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 33
Ki-21 Sally x 20
Ki-49 Helen x 20

Allied aircraft
Hawk 75A x 3
CW-21B Demon x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 1 damaged
Ki-49 Helen: 3 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Hawk 75A: 1 destroyed
CW-21B Demon: 1 damaged
Beaufort V-IX: 1 destroyed


Allied ground losses:
21 casualties reported

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 5

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Day Air attack on Bandoeng , at 19,61
 
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 3
Ki-21 Sally x 44
Ki-49 Helen x 20

Allied aircraft
CW-21B Demon x 2

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed
Ki-21 Sally: 6 damaged
Ki-49 Helen: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Beaufort V-IX: 1 destroyed
Martin 139: 1 destroyed


Allied ground losses:
39 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 1

Airbase hits 7
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 13

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Day Air attack on Malang , at 22,66

Japanese aircraft
G3M Nell x 41

Allied aircraft
Brewster 339D x 5

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M Nell: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Brewster 339D: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
Vildebeest IV: 1 destroyed
Beaufort V-IX: 1 destroyed


Allied ground losses:
21 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 11

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Day Air attack on Bandoeng , at 19,61
 
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 12
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 33
Ki-21 Sally x 21
Ki-49 Helen x 18

Allied aircraft
Hawk 75A x 3
CW-21B Demon x 2

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49 Helen: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
CW-21B Demon: 1 destroyed
Beaufort V-IX: 2 destroyed
Martin 139: 1 destroyed


Allied ground losses:
34 casualties reported

Airbase hits 5
Runway hits 14

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Day Air attack on Bandoeng , at 19,61

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 10
Ki-21 Sally x 42
Ki-49 Helen x 21

Allied aircraft
Hawk 75A x 3
CW-21B Demon x 1

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49 Helen: 2 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
CW-21B Demon: 1 destroyed
Martin 139: 2 destroyed
Beaufort V-IX: 3 destroyed


Allied ground losses:
40 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 23


Hmmm. Painful turn indeed. Enough of this so next turn time strike back all my bombers will head out againts enemy airfields at DEI. Hopefully I can inflict serious damage to Donnie IF not than....


B17's hit enemy Transport TF


Day Air attack on TF, near Balikpapan at 31,64

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 12
F1M2 Pete x 1
Ki-27 Nate x 19

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 17

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 2 damaged
Ki-27 Nate: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 11 damaged

Japanese Ships
AP Hakuyo Maru, Bomb hits 4,  on fire,  heavy damage
PG Yachiyo Maru, Bomb hits 3,  on fire,  heavy damage
PC Ch 13
APD APD-1, Bomb hits 1,  on fire
AP Hayo Maru


Not much but better than nothing!!!
 
 
Luzon
 
 
The battle of Manila
 
 
Ground combat at Manila

Japanese Deliberate attack

Attacking force 207678 troops, 2112 guns, 333 vehicles, Assault Value = 3959

Defending force 67678 troops, 522 guns, 114 vehicles, Assault Value = 1300

Japanese engineers reduce fortifications to 3

Japanese max assault: 3806 - adjusted assault: 1557

Allied max defense: 1273 - adjusted defense: 8677

Japanese assault odds: 0 to 1 (fort level 3)


Japanese ground losses:
8409 casualties reported
Guns lost 273
Vehicles lost 37

Allied ground losses:
1190 casualties reported
Guns lost 42


 ...this was good for sure. Allied troops at Manila will not surrender that easily.

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RE: RN clash with KB.. IJN BB hit hard.. Battle of Java... - 7/4/2007 9:13:54 PM   
Rob Brennan UK


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Status: offline 		I'm suprised by the mannila defence . must be more supply than i thought. nice !

regarding medan .. use LR cap to try and prevent transports from flying in supply and jap troops .. doesnt work well in the game engine but what else can you use the duntch and RAF for anyway.

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ABDA Airforce hits back - 7/5/2007 10:42:33 PM   
aztez

 

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Status: offline 		Well.. Citizens at Manila decieded to share their food and supplies

Medan is not the problem as Merak is in DEI... I would go with aggressive LRCAP but that is not worth it just yet. I need my fighters in defensive duties elsewhere.


Game date is 26th of April 1942
 
 
DEI
 
 
ABDA Airforce bombs the enemy
 
 
 
Day Air attack on Singkawang , at 25,57

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 3
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 12

Allied aircraft
B-17D Fortress x 3
B-17E Fortress x 28

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 5 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
B-17D Fortress: 1 damaged
B-17E Fortress: 4 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
26 casualties reported

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 13

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Day Air attack on Palembang , at 20,55
 
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 10
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 12

Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 11
B-26B Marauder x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 3 destroyed, 5 damaged
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 4 damaged
Ki-21 Sally: 3 destroyed
G4M1 Betty: 4 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-25C Mitchell: 2 destroyed, 7 damaged
B-26B Marauder: 1 destroyed, 13 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
271 casualties reported
Guns lost 15

Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 18

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Day Air attack on Singkawang , at 25,57

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 3
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 9

Allied aircraft
B-17D Fortress x 3
B-17E Fortress x 25

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
58 casualties reported

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 10


Nice that sums of quite a few aircraft destroyed on the ground!


Japanese Airforce repulsed at Soerebaja


Day Air attack on Soerabaja , at 22,65
 
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 27
G3M Nell x 52
G4M1 Betty x 9

Allied aircraft
Sea Hurricane Ib x 2
Wirraway x 4
Kittyhawk IA x 38
P-40E-1-CU Warhawk x 4

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 7 destroyed
G3M Nell: 10 destroyed, 15 damaged
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed, 7 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Sea Hurricane Ib: 1 destroyed
Wirraway: 2 damaged
Kittyhawk IA: 4 destroyed, 7 damaged
P-40E-1-CU Warhawk: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged

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Day Air attack on Soerabaja , at 22,65

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 17
G3M Nell x 35
G4M1 Betty x 6

Allied aircraft
Sea Hurricane Ib x 1
Wirraway x 6
Kittyhawk IA x 29
P-40E-1-CU Warhawk x 4

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 11 destroyed
G3M Nell: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Sea Hurricane Ib: 1 damaged
Wirraway: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
Kittyhawk IA: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged
P-40E-1-CU Warhawk: 1 destroyed


I ain't about sell Java cheap as I promised. I don't know the experience levels of enemy pilots but I like the odds with these kind of losses.

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RE: ABDA Airforce hits back - 7/7/2007 8:16:50 PM   
Rob Brennan UK


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RE the LRCAP .. i was wondering if just a 'few' AC might stop transports without escorts, not by shooting them down but just because the game doesnt like sending in unescorted strikes (unless its a CV vs CV combat ), maybe the same holds true for transports , frankly i have no idea (probably not though now i think about it )

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US Carriers clash againts KB... ABDA continues to fight... - 7/7/2007 9:14:11 PM   
aztez

 

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Status: offline 		Hi Rob... Definately they are showing fatigue!  ...BUT Monkeys!

I haven't had too much success using the LRCAP!  (Basically never)

...bloody past few days!!!

Oh, its MAY 1942 ---> RAF gets squadrons upgraded!!!


Game date is 1st of May 1942


South of Australia Carriers Clash
 
 
Well, US carriers have been sailing towards the enemy for longtime. I neglected even their upgrades since I knew IJN carriers were lurking South of Java.
 
This was a gamble BUT it wasn't total risky move.. (That why I checked his CV force with the RN)
 
...and I was more than pleased with the first blows...
 
 
Day Air attack on TF at 4,78

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 33
A6M3 Zero x 16

Allied aircraft
F2A Buffalo x 9
F4F-4 Wildcat x 7
SBD Dauntless x 67
TBD Devastator x 30

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 3 damaged
A6M3 Zero: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F2A Buffalo: 6 destroyed
F4F-4 Wildcat: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged
SBD Dauntless: 14 destroyed, 23 damaged
TBD Devastator: 4 destroyed, 4 damaged

Japanese Ships
CVE Taiyo, Bomb hits 5,  on fire,  heavy damage
BB Yamashiro, Bomb hits 2,  on fire
CVL Zuiho
BB Hyuga, Bomb hits 6,  on fire
CV Kaga, Bomb hits 2,  on fire
CV Akagi, Bomb hits 4,  on fire
 
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Day Air attack on TF at 4,78
 
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 24
A6M3 Zero x 7

Allied aircraft
F4F-3 Wildcat x 7
SBD Dauntless x 34
TBD Devastator x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed
A6M3 Zero: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-3 Wildcat: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged
SBD Dauntless: 6 damaged
TBD Devastator: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged

Japanese Ships
CV Akagi, Bomb hits 1,  on fire
CV Kaga, Bomb hits 4,  on fire,  heavy damage
CVL Zuiho
CVE Taiyo, Bomb hits 1,  on fire,  heavy damage
BB Hyuga,  on fire

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Day Air attack on TF at 4,78
 
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 19
A6M3 Zero x 6

Allied aircraft
SBD Dauntless x 17

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
SBD Dauntless: 7 damaged

Japanese Ships
CV Akagi, Bomb hits 1,  on fire,  heavy damage
CV Kaga, Bomb hits 2,  on fire,  heavy damage
BB Hyuga, Bomb hits 1,  on fire
BB Yamashiro, Bomb hits 1,  on fire

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Day Air attack on TF at 4,78

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 23
A6M3 Zero x 6

Allied aircraft
F4F-3 Wildcat x 4
SBD Dauntless x 17
TBD Devastator x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3 Zero: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-3 Wildcat: 3 damaged
SBD Dauntless: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged
TBD Devastator: 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
BB Yamashiro, Bomb hits 1,  on fire
BB Hyuga,  on fire
CV Akagi, Bomb hits 5,  on fire,  heavy damage
CVE Taiyo,  on fire,  heavy damage

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Day Air attack on TF at 7,79
 
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 4
A6M3 Zero x 2
D3A Val x 33

Allied aircraft
F2A Buffalo x 18
F4F-3 Wildcat x 33
F4F-4 Wildcat x 15

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 4 destroyed
A6M3 Zero: 2 destroyed
D3A Val: 25 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F2A Buffalo: 1 destroyed
F4F-3 Wildcat: 3 damaged
F4F-4 Wildcat: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
CV Enterprise
CV Lexington
CV Yorktown, Bomb hits 1

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Day Air attack on TF at 7,79
 
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 14
D3A Val x 15

Allied aircraft
F2A Buffalo x 12
F4F-3 Wildcat x 24
F4F-4 Wildcat x 11

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 8 destroyed
D3A Val: 7 destroyed, 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
F2A Buffalo: 2 destroyed
F4F-3 Wildcat: 5 destroyed, 2 damaged

Allied Ships
CV Hornet, Bomb hits 1
CV Yorktown


...well well.. not bad, not bad at all! I will send an medal of honour to our CV captains.. allthough the battle is still far from over here at least I inflicted serious damage to his carriers... none confirmed sunk though.
 
We will see what happens next turn. I'am not about to run away or anything such...!!!


DEI
 
 
Air to air battles over Soerebaja
 
 
Day Air attack on Soerabaja , at 22,65
 
Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 30
B5N Kate x 8
Ki-46-II Dinah x 2

Allied aircraft
Sea Hurricane Ib x 1
Wirraway x 3
Kittyhawk IA x 29

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 6 destroyed
B5N Kate: 6 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Wirraway: 1 destroyed
Kittyhawk IA: 2 destroyed, 7 damaged

Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 1
 
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Day Air attack on Soerabaja , at 22,65
 
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 18
G3M Nell x 11
G4M1 Betty x 34
H6K4 Mavis x 1

Allied aircraft
Sea Hurricane Ib x 1
Wirraway x 2
Kittyhawk IA x 28

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed
G3M Nell: 4 damaged
G4M1 Betty: 2 destroyed, 3 damaged
H6K4 Mavis: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Sea Hurricane Ib: 1 damaged
Wirraway: 2 destroyed
Kittyhawk IA: 3 destroyed, 1 damaged
B-17E Fortress: 2 destroyed


Allied ground losses:
48 casualties reported

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 14


That is not bad here either. Other DEI airfields were hit too with some losses inflicted to ABDA.
 
IJN transport ships are also sailing towards Batavia. ABDA torpedo bombers are given green light to engage the enemy.
 
 
Balikpapan bombed heavily
 
 
Day Air attack on Balikpapan , at 31,64
 
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 54
Ki-27 Nate x 8

Allied aircraft
B-17D Fortress x 2
B-17E Fortress x 62

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 11 destroyed, 33 damaged
Ki-27 Nate: 5 destroyed
G3M Nell: 3 destroyed
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-17D Fortress: 2 damaged
B-17E Fortress: 3 destroyed, 53 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
463 casualties reported
Guns lost 16

Resources hits 10
Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 24

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Day Air attack on Balikpapan , at 31,64

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 51
Ki-27 Nate x 7

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 43

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 6 destroyed, 21 damaged
Ki-27 Nate: 1 destroyed
G3M Nell: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 4 destroyed, 35 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
114 casualties reported
Guns lost 5

Resources hits 1
Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 9


...the battle of attrition is fought aggressively.  ...these ought to hurt too!

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Post #: 111
RE: US Carriers clash againts KB... ABDA continues to f... - 7/8/2007 1:03:08 AM   
aztez

 

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Status: offline 		Game date is 4th of May 1942
 
 
US Carrier Fleet near Oz
 
 
I didn't retreat my forces and again it paid off. I found CV Soryo cruising around and my bombers did short work on her. (confirmed sunk)
 
Donnie stated that he has 5 operational fleet carriers left. (minus CV Shokaku which is badly damaged by RN) ...so I gather CV Kaga and CV Akagi are doomed too. I will patrol the seas for an while to see what else I can hunt down due to the fact that enemy in fleeing.
 
The funny thing is that Donnie has tailed my CV Fleet all the way from SW Pacific.  ...I wasn't aware of this and thanfully not since I might have called off the whole operation.
 
 
Day Air attack on TF at 7,74

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 3

Allied aircraft
F2A Buffalo x 6
F4F-3 Wildcat x 4
F4F-4 Wildcat x 2
SBD Dauntless x 42
TBD Devastator x 13

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
SBD Dauntless: 3 destroyed, 20 damaged
TBD Devastator: 5 damaged

Japanese Ships
BB Mutsu, Bomb hits 3,  on fire
CV Soryu, Bomb hits 4, Torpedo hits 1,  on fire,  heavy damage

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Day Air attack on TF at 7,74
 
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 1

Allied aircraft
F4F-3 Wildcat x 2
TBD Devastator x 13

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
TBD Devastator: 13 damaged

Japanese Ships
CV Soryu,  on fire,  heavy damage
BB Mutsu,  on fire

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Day Air attack on TF at 7,74

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 1

Allied aircraft
F4F-3 Wildcat x 4
SBD Dauntless x 17

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
SBD Dauntless: 2 destroyed, 8 damaged

Japanese Ships
CV Soryu, Bomb hits 2,  on fire,  heavy damage
BB Mutsu, Bomb hits 1,  on fire

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on TF at 7,74

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 1

Allied aircraft
F4F-3 Wildcat x 2
SBD Dauntless x 31
TBD Devastator x 14

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
SBD Dauntless: 2 damaged
TBD Devastator: 5 damaged

Japanese Ships
CV Soryu, Bomb hits 6, Torpedo hits 1,  on fire,  heavy damage
CL Nagara
BB Mutsu,  on fire

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Day Air attack on TF at 5,77
 
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 9
D3A Val x 5

Allied aircraft
F2A Buffalo x 12
F4F-3 Wildcat x 25
F4F-4 Wildcat x 13

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 7 destroyed
D3A Val: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
F4F-3 Wildcat: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
CA Chicago


DEI
 
 
Japanese airforce strikes hard againts Badoeng and Soerebaja


Day Air attack on Soerabaja , at 22,65

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 94
G3M Nell x 15
G4M1 Betty x 31

Allied aircraft
Sea Hurricane Ib x 1
Wirraway x 3
Kittyhawk IA x 23

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 16 destroyed, 1 damaged
G3M Nell: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged
G4M1 Betty: 8 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Sea Hurricane Ib: 1 destroyed
Wirraway: 3 destroyed
Kittyhawk IA: 9 destroyed, 5 damaged
B-17E Fortress: 1 destroyed
B-26B Marauder: 1 destroyed
B-25C Mitchell: 1 destroyed


Allied ground losses:
5 casualties reported

Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 17

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Day Air attack on Soerabaja , at 22,65

Japanese aircraft
G3M Nell x 14
G4M1 Betty x 15

Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk IA x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M Nell: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Kittyhawk IA: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged
B-17E Fortress: 1 destroyed
B-25C Mitchell: 1 destroyed

Runway hits 7

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Day Air attack on Bandoeng , at 19,61

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 28
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 19
Ki-21 Sally x 22
Ki-48 Lily x 23
Ki-49 Helen x 18

Allied aircraft
Hawk 75A x 1
CW-21B Demon x 1
Brewster 339D x 6
P-40E-1-CU Warhawk x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 4 destroyed
Ki-21 Sally: 1 damaged
Ki-49 Helen: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
CW-21B Demon: 1 destroyed
Brewster 339D: 3 destroyed
P-40E-1-CU Warhawk: 2 damaged
Martin 139: 1 destroyed
Beaufort V-IX: 2 destroyed


Allied ground losses:
7 casualties reported

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 3

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Day Air attack on Soerabaja , at 22,65

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 2
G3M Nell x 14
G4M1 Betty x 62
H6K4 Mavis x 3

Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk IA x 17

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M Nell: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged
G4M1 Betty: 4 destroyed, 5 damaged
H6K4 Mavis: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Kittyhawk IA: 1 damaged
B-17D Fortress: 1 destroyed
B-25C Mitchell: 1 destroyed
F.K.51: 1 destroyed

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 10


Those strikes caused heavy casualties to both sides...!!!


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Post #: 112
RE: US Carriers clash againts KB... ABDA continues to f... - 7/8/2007 12:47:50 PM   
aztez

 

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US Carriers hunt IJN cripples

The carriers continued their assaults againts fleeing enemy ships.
 
It is confirmed that CV Akagi, CV Kaga and CV Soryo are now sunk and few other capital ships badly damaged. There is still damaged enemy ships trying to flee the area and I will continue my patrols there.

Day Air attack on TF at 11,72

Allied aircraft
SBD Dauntless x 26

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships

DD Yukaze, Bomb hits 6, on fire, heavy damage
DD Harukaze, Bomb hits 8, on fire, heavy damage
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Day Air attack on TF at 7,74

Allied aircraft
F2A Buffalo x 5
F4F-3 Wildcat x 13
SBD Dauntless x 14
TBD Devastator x 23

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
CV Akagi, Bomb hits 12, on fire, heavy damage
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Day Air attack on TF at 7,74
 

Allied aircraft
SBD Dauntless x 33

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
CV Kaga, Bomb hits 13, on fire, heavy damage

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Day Air attack on TF at 12,75

Allied aircraft
F2A Buffalo x 4
F4F-3 Wildcat x 12
F4F-4 Wildcat x 6
SBD Dauntless x 6

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
DD Urakaze, Bomb hits 5, on fire, heavy damage
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on TF at 7,74

Allied aircraft
SBD Dauntless x 85
TBD Devastator x 39

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
CV Kaga, Bomb hits 18, on fire, heavy damage
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Day Air attack on TF at 7,71
 

Allied aircraft
F4F-3 Wildcat x 6
F4F-4 Wildcat x 8
SBD Dauntless x 13

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
BB Yamashiro, Bomb hits 3, on fire
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Day Air attack on TF at 7,71
 

Allied aircraft
F2A Buffalo x 5
TBD Devastator x 12

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
BB Yamashiro, Bomb hits 2, on fire
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Day Air attack on TF at 7,71

Allied aircraft
SBD Dauntless x 15

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
BB Hyuga, Bomb hits 3, on fire

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on TF at 7,71
 

Allied aircraft
F4F-3 Wildcat x 5
SBD Dauntless x 33
TBD Devastator x 9

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
BB Hyuga, Bomb hits 12, on fire
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Day Air attack on TF at 9,69
 

Allied aircraft
SBD Dauntless x 17
TBD Devastator x 10

Allied aircraft losses

SBD Dauntless: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
TBD Devastator: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
BB Mutsu, Bomb hits 11, on fire
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Day Air attack on TF at 14,74
 

Allied aircraft
TBD Devastator x 9

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
DD Urakaze, Bomb hits 4, on fire, heavy damage

I would be fun to know how damaged those BB's are... well I guess we will find out soon since I doubt they can flee away.
 
Overall this whole operation has been magnificent success.

DEI

IJA bombs airfields around Java

Day Air attack on Bandoeng , at 19,61

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 32
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 20
Ki-21 Sally x 23
Ki-48 Lily x 26
Ki-49 Helen x 23

Allied aircraft
Hawk 75A x 1
Brewster 339D x 5
P-40E-1-CU Warhawk x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed
Ki-48 Lily: 1 damaged
Ki-49 Helen: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses

Brewster 339D: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
Martin 139: 1 destroyed
Vildebeest IV: 1 destroyed

Allied ground losses:
40 casualties reported
Guns lost 2
Vehicles lost 1

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 8
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on Soerabaja , at 22,65

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 17

Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk IA x 23
P-40E-1-CU Warhawk x 2

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Kittyhawk IA: 2 destroyed
P-40E-1-CU Warhawk: 1 damaged

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on Soerabaja , at 22,65
 
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 31

Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk IA x 21
P-40E-1-CU Warhawk x 2

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 9 destroyed, 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Kittyhawk IA: 5 destroyed, 3 damaged
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Day Air attack on Bandoeng , at 19,61

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 34
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 22
Ki-21 Sally x 25
Ki-48 Lily x 25
Ki-49 Helen x 22

Allied aircraft
Hawk 75A x 1
Brewster 339D x 5
P-40E-1-CU Warhawk x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
Ki-21 Sally: 2 damaged
Ki-48 Lily: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Hawk 75A: 1 damaged
Brewster 339D: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged

Allied ground losses:
16 casualties reported
Vehicles lost 1

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 8
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Day Air attack on Soerabaja , at 22,65
 

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 17

Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk IA x 18
P-40E-1-CU Warhawk x 2

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 6 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Kittyhawk IA: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on Soerabaja , at 22,65
 

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 21

Allied aircraft
Kittyhawk IA x 17
P-40E-1-CU Warhawk x 2

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 3 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Kittyhawk IA: 3 destroyed, 1 damaged
P-40E-1-CU Warhawk: 1 destroyed

Again quite a few pilots and planes lost. I wonder how fatigued his Zero fighters are.

B17's visit Balikpapan

Day Air attack on Balikpapan , at 31,64
 
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 21
Ki-27 Nate x 7

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 22

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 5 destroyed, 11 damaged
Ki-27 Nate: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged
G4M1 Betty: 2 destroyed
G3M Nell: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 22 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
220 casualties reported
Guns lost 7

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 15
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on Balikpapan , at 31,64
 
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 21
Ki-27 Nate x 7

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 4 destroyed, 11 damaged
Ki-27 Nate: 3 destroyed, 1 damaged
G4M1 Betty: 5 destroyed
G3M Nell: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 18 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
126 casualties reported
Guns lost 5

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 15

Once again nice amount of aircraft losses on the ground. The airfield at Balikpapan also recieved nice damage.
 
Near Merak

Unfortunately Donnie managed to land some reinforcements into Merak. I doubt I can close the beachhead now. ABDA airforce hit the transports though.

Day Air attack on TF, near Merak at 18,59
 

Allied aircraft
Martin 139 x 2
Beaufort V-IX x 21
P-40E-1-CU Warhawk x 2

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships

AK Hikosan Maru
AP Hokuhi Maru, Bomb hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
AK Akita Maru
AP Ayo Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

Japanese ground losses:
125 casualties reported
Guns lost 5
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on TF, near Merak at 18,59
 

Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 3
B-26B Marauder x 6

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships

AP Choko Maru
AK Akita Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire
MSW Wa 3, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage

Japanese ground losses:
19 casualties reported
Guns lost 4
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Day Air attack on TF, near Merak at 18,59

Allied aircraft
Vildebeest IV x 2
Beaufort V-IX x 14
P-40E-1-CU Warhawk x 2

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships

AP Choko Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
AK Akita Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AP Ayo Maru, on fire, heavy damage
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Day Air attack on TF, near Merak at 18,59
 

Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 3
B-26B Marauder x 7

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships

MSW Ranzan Maru
AP Hokuhi Maru, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
AP Ayo Maru, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage

...that concludes the action from past 2 days.

< Message edited by aztez -- 7/8/2007 12:56:50 PM >

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Post #: 113
RE: US Carriers clash againts KB... ABDA continues to f... - 7/8/2007 12:58:02 PM   
aztez

 

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Status: offline 		Confirmed list of sunk enemy vessels. Basically all of the capital ships lost are linked to the battle of Java.







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RE: US Carriers clash againts KB... ABDA continues to f... - 7/8/2007 7:49:13 PM   
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Agressive defence seems to be working out rather well imo. Donnie must be hurting after those attacks. so whens the planned invasion of the home islands going ahead?




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RE: US Carriers clash againts KB... ABDA continues to f... - 7/8/2007 8:30:04 PM   
aztez

 

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Status: offline 		Hi Rob! ...I'am afraid that last turn turned up more bad news to Donnie.

As for Home Islands...  ...things are not looking that good! I'am thinking about couple operations as we speak.. more about them once they are in full motion.


Game date is 8th of May 1942
 

DEI
 
 
B17 continue to harash Balikpapan
 
 
Day Air attack on Balikpapan , at 31,64
 
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 52
Ki-27 Nate x 13

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 7 destroyed, 20 damaged
Ki-27 Nate: 2 destroyed
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 2 destroyed, 14 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
135 casualties reported
Guns lost 7

Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 11

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Day Air attack on Balikpapan , at 31,64

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 43
Ki-27 Nate x 14

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 14

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 6 destroyed, 12 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 2 destroyed, 10 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
171 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 14


I think his pilots are fatigued and propably a bit low on morale by looking at the scores.
 
 
Air to Air battles around Java
 
 
Day Air attack on Bandoeng , at 19,61
 
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 20
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 23
Ki-21 Sally x 16
Ki-48 Lily x 23
Ki-49 Helen x 20

Allied aircraft
Hawk 75A x 1
Brewster 339D x 3
P-40E-1-CU Warhawk x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ib Oscar: 1 destroyed
Ki-21 Sally: 1 damaged
Ki-48 Lily: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Brewster 339D: 2 destroyed
P-40E-1-CU Warhawk: 2 damaged


Allied ground losses:
11 casualties reported

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 2

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Day Air attack on Bandoeng , at 19,61

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 38
Ki-43-Ib Oscar x 26
Ki-21 Sally x 24
Ki-48 Lily x 23
Ki-49 Helen x 21

Allied aircraft
Hawk 75A x 1
Brewster 339D x 1
P-40E-1-CU Warhawk x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Hawk 75A: 1 damaged
P-40E-1-CU Warhawk: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
Beaufort V-IX: 1 destroyed


Allied ground losses:
10 casualties reported

Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 3


Donnie did not assault the Soerebaja airfield last turn. I guess the losses were turning up too high!
 

ABDA airforce hits transports near Java
 
 
Day Air attack on TF, near Teloekbetoeng at 19,58

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 9

Allied aircraft
Beaufort V-IX x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Beaufort V-IX: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
AP Awa Maru,  heavy damage
MSW Ranzan Maru, Bomb hits 1,  on fire,  heavy damage
AP Choko Maru, Bomb hits 2,  on fire,  heavy damage

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Day Air attack on TF, near Teloekbetoeng at 19,58
 
Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 9

Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 5
B-26B Marauder x 5

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-26B Marauder: 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
AP Azuchi Maru, Bomb hits 2,  on fire,  heavy damage
AP Awa Maru, Bomb hits 1,  heavy damage


Always good to see AP's hit.. they are valuable ships even for the IJN side. Unfortunately I have abandoned the idea to destroy the Merak beach head. Donnie now + 10 000 men ashore.
 

Philippines
 
 
Enemy lands at Cebu
 
 
Coastal Guns at Cebu  , 42,58, firing at TF 35
TF 35 troops unloading over beach at Cebu  , 42,58


90 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
DD Kari, Shell hits 1,  heavy damage
DD Otori, Shell hits 1,  on fire
MSW Seki Maru, Shell hits 2,  on fire,  heavy damage
AP Hokumyo Maru, Shell hits 1,  on fire
AP Chojun Maru, Shell hits 2,  on fire
AP Asama Maru

Japanese ground losses:
270 casualties reported
Guns lost 4

Allied ground losses:
16 casualties reported


Ok. It seems that Donnie is going leave Manila behind and by the looks of things he is using it to train his pilots. Oh, well I need to look options to stop this ofcourse.
 
 
US Carriers inflict serious damage again to IJN
 
 
Day Air attack on TF at 8,69
 

Allied aircraft
SBD Dauntless x 21


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
CL Naka, Bomb hits 1,  on fire

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Day Air attack on TF at 6,69
 

Allied aircraft
F2A Buffalo x 6
F4F-3 Wildcat x 11
F4F-4 Wildcat x 8
SBD Dauntless x 21
TBD Devastator x 11


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
BB Yamashiro, Bomb hits 8, Torpedo hits 3,  on fire,  heavy damage

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Day Air attack on TF at 7,69
 

Allied aircraft
SBD Dauntless x 31
TBD Devastator x 11


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
BB Hyuga, Bomb hits 4, Torpedo hits 4,  on fire,  heavy damage
DD Yugumo, Bomb hits 2,  on fire,  heavy damage

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Day Air attack on TF at 10,67


Allied aircraft
SBD Dauntless x 29


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
DD Hatsuyuki, Bomb hits 8,  on fire,  heavy damage

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Day Air attack on TF at 6,69
 

Allied aircraft
SBD Dauntless x 86
TBD Devastator x 38


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
BB Yamashiro, Bomb hits 4, Torpedo hits 1,  on fire,  heavy damage
DD Akigumo, Bomb hits 1,  on fire

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Day Air attack on TF at 9,68


Allied aircraft
SBD Dauntless x 16
TBD Devastator x 11


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
DD Yugumo, Bomb hits 5,  on fire,  heavy damage

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Day Air attack on TF at 9,68
 

Allied aircraft
F2A Buffalo x 6
F4F-3 Wildcat x 12
F4F-4 Wildcat x 3
SBD Dauntless x 21
TBD Devastator x 10


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
CL Tatsuta, Bomb hits 4,  on fire,  heavy damage

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Day Air attack on TF at 7,69
 

Allied aircraft
SBD Dauntless x 15
TBD Devastator x 12


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
CL Yubari, Bomb hits 4,  on fire,  heavy damage


BB Yamashiro and BB Hyuga are confirmed sunk! Also I think BB Mutsu is in deep trouble after last turn. If all goes well than I think Donnie has lost 5 BB's in this adventure. I don't mind him losing couple of CL's either! 

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RE: US Carriers clash againts KB... ABDA continues to f... - 7/8/2007 9:27:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		I am afraid this war is going to be short... Either your opponent abandons fairly soon, or you will be able to actively counterattak in late 1942/early 43. If you manage to counterattack fast in the SRA, his economy should collapse very quickly.

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RE: US Carriers clash againts KB... ABDA continues to f... - 7/8/2007 10:18:35 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: veji1

I am afraid this war is going to be short... Either your opponent abandons fairly soon, or you will be able to actively counterattak in late 1942/early 43. If you manage to counterattack fast in the SRA, his economy should collapse very quickly.



To be honest I have a similar feeling. Donnie has taken some serious hits in past turns. If he abandons this one than so be it.

At least I showed that aggressive defense is not all doomed If and when you get an chance to implement it properly. This actually was the main theme from the start.

I think that the huge mistake with Japan has been that he concentrated his airforce in too many places.

Also he kept his CV's south of Java for a longtime which meant that I knew wherer they were.

We will see what happens. As said I have some plans laid out already.


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RE: US Carriers clash againts KB... ABDA continues to f... - 7/8/2007 10:48:49 PM   
aztez

 

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Status: offline 		veji1 got me thinking and I do kind of feel bad for Donnie.

So basically I asked him if it is too much for him to continue this PBEM. I don't think any redo's are in order since all the things that has happened could have actually gone either way. It seems to me that both have gambled a lot and I have gotten better end of the "luck".

Anyway, I offered him an surrender and will wait to hear from him. If we continue than more carnage waits.. just wanted to be an "gentleman" with this one.

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RE: US Carriers clash againts KB... ABDA continues to f... - 7/8/2007 10:53:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		I think that Honda's Dark side of the Moon and this AAR show the risks, and potential rewards, yielded by force divisions for the japanese. dividing the KB and dispersing the Airforce are, 80% of the time, a recipe for disaster. except in the very early stages of the war and in secondary theaters ( at the  time), like Salomons, Southpac and part of DEI (eastern mainly) can the japanese player go for operations of strategical significance with dispersed forces.

Except if one is a genius/insanely lucky, it is more prudent to go one major operation at a time... It slows down the rythm of the expansion, but at least it averts disaster.

The game can still be interesting for both of you if you press forward quickly. But if you wait to get reinforced a bit and press on in early 1943, he will be crushed without any fun.

I say for the sake of the game, keep hitting him hard, make it bloody !!

BANZAI !!

(oups forgot this is the allied side...)

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