Apollo11
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Joined: 6/7/2001 From: Zagreb, Croatia Status: offline
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ORIGINAL: Apollo11 Guys, please listen, the 64-bit OS (wheather Windows XP 64-bit or Windows Vista 64-bit) is not good choice for 99.9999999999% of users! Why? Because it is simply not needed. The 64-bit OS only runs 64-bit applications in "native" mode - the older 32-bit applications (that we all use now) are not run "natively" and, thus, they inheritly run slower (and with possibility of all problems that arise with such "emulated" run). Also there is a problem with availability of 64-bit drivers for 64 OS. Therefore, except for some very specialized users who apsolutely have to run apps with huge amounts or memory and that are 64-bit, the 64-bit OS is apsolutely not necessary at all... The thing is, 32-bit vista can only support 4gb ram max. The 64-bit can go up to 32gb ram. Not sure what makes you think 32-bit is faster? This link shows that 64-bit is faster in every mark shown there... http://www.gamingsignal.com/2007/04/64_bit_windows_vista_ultimate.html Another thing, the 32-bit vista within a few years will be discontinued as I have read. Although right now 4gb ram seems like a lot, in only 3 years, it will no longer be alot and if one settles for 32 bit vista, they won't see anything past 4gb ram. Please show me any "normal" program that needs so much RAM? Today's programs (including most complex games) runs just fine on 2 GB machines... over that is just plain "overkill"... And benchmarks (especially "synthetic" ones) are totally useless in real world)... BTW I am IT professional and for past 15+ years I worked with hundreds of PC's which I repaired and/or assembled (since I am System Administrator I only do that for myself, my friends and certain workstations at work because I always want to stay current with latest developments and "hands on"). quote:
Also, many people think xp is faster. That is not necessarily the case but seems that way because... vista needs ram and tends to take advantage of ram more then xp did. For example, say if I have a pc running xp with 1gb ram, I then upgrade to vista and leave in the 1gb ram, it will be faster when it had xp. Now, if I go to 2gb, thats where vista clearly passes up xp. So if I am running xp with 2gb ram, then I upgrade to vista with 2gb ram, then vista will be faster. It kind of goes up from there, so 3gb ram would really shine. This is my findings after my current build and from the many things I have read on some tech sites and mags. When I had 1gb ram, it was not fast at all, but since I went to 2gb, this pc screams! I certainly don't recommend running vista on anything less then 2gb ram even though it can be done, xp will be a better choice on 1gb pc's. Windows XP is faster than Windows Vista. Games on Windows XP run faster than on Windows Vista. That's the fact of life. Same as Windows 98 is faster than Windows XP (nothing can beat speed of Windows 98 in plain office environment). But why people then moved from Windows 98 to Windows 2000 and Windows XP? Because new applications arrived that required new OS and new games arrived that only worked on Windows XP (in the beginning every single game that worked on Windows 98 was faster than on Windows XP)! Also new functionality of OS was great lure and many people transferred (but it took some time and please note that even today many many companies worldwide, including USA, still operate Windows 98 and Windows 2000 refusing to go to Windows XP). There are also preinstalled machines that always come with new OS so many people automatically move to newer OS when they buy new PC. quote:
My main problem with vista is I have run into a few games that just won't run on it. Now, the main games for example Civ4 and GalCiv2 work like a charm. Its usually games from foreign developers that I find won't run on vista such as Trasnport Giant or Pacific Storm and its ashame because I love those games. This said, I have read on here that WitP runs fine on vista so maybe I will finally decide to order it. In time we will all be "forced" to move to Windows Vista (because some new software will only run on Windows Vista) but for time being this is really not needed for vast majority of users - only if someone prefers new GUI I would recommend it (I myself disable "Themes" service on Windows XP as default - I have no love for fancy GUI at all - I want speed and functionality!)... Leo "Apollo11"
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