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The most prized target for Imperial Japanese pilots is.... - 7/21/2007 7:46:58 AM   
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Its July 1945. The Allies have landed on Honshu and are pushing to isolate Tokyo. For the last month half-a-dozen carrier groups, a like number of surface combat and bombardment groups plus scores of transport task forces ferrying additional troops in have been in the waters "south" of Japan. For that entire month not a single Japanese aircraft flys an attack mission, just some floatplanes flying Naval Search. A force of five APDs carrying a USMC Raider unit approaches Hamamatsu and is immediately attacked.

Someone really needs to look at the Naval Attack targeting priorities because this is not the first time I've seen that kind of APD target fixation.

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RE: The most prized target for Imperial Japanese pilots... - 7/21/2007 8:43:22 AM   
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It might be that heavy CAP prevented Japanese ACs from attacking the invasion forces and APDs sailed out of CAP-covered area.

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RE: The most prized target for Imperial Japanese pilots... - 7/21/2007 10:11:40 AM   
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Perhaps you should take your pilots' hint and surrender...

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RE: The most prized target for Imperial Japanese pilots... - 7/21/2007 10:17:04 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: kkoovvoo

It might be that heavy CAP prevented Japanese ACs from attacking the invasion forces and APDs sailed out of CAP-covered area.


Most likely. I can't my AC to fly against any TF with air cover


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RE: The most prized target for Imperial Japanese pilots... - 7/21/2007 11:09:24 AM   
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The APDs were sailing the exact same route that scores of transport TFs had sailed and many of them had been spotted in the same hex.  It wasn't CAP that prevented them from being attacked since they were as well or better covered as many of the Transport and Surface Combat TFs that were spotted (and one of the strikes was intercepted by land-based P-51s).  It also wasn't the AA rating of the TFs, since many of the Transport TFs had a lower AA rating than the APDs' TF did.

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RE: The most prized target for Imperial Japanese pilots... - 7/21/2007 2:06:18 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: dtravel

Its July 1945. The Allies have landed on Honshu and are pushing to isolate Tokyo. For the last month half-a-dozen carrier groups, a like number of surface combat and bombardment groups plus scores of transport task forces ferrying additional troops in have been in the waters "south" of Japan. For that entire month not a single Japanese aircraft flys an attack mission, just some floatplanes flying Naval Search. A force of five APDs carrying a USMC Raider unit approaches Hamamatsu and is immediately attacked.

Someone really needs to look at the Naval Attack targeting priorities because this is not the first time I've seen that kind of APD target fixation.



This game really cries out for an "override the CO's objections" order. Sometimes it IS necessary to "boldly go where no one in his right mind would"...., otherwise how do you re-create some of the hopeless attacks the US made at Midway? Or other actual events of the war?

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RE: The most prized target for Imperial Japanese pilots... - 7/21/2007 2:23:47 PM   
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Whether it is an "APD problem" or not, I was thrown a surprise once, in maybe Sept '44 cruising carrier TF's back and forth all over the mainland with almost zilch Japanese CAP when out of the blue, about 300 planes hit one of those TF's, sinking an Essex and 2 Independence CVL's..
(CHS)

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RE: The most prized target for Imperial Japanese pilots... - 7/22/2007 5:04:40 AM   
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July 1945? Reading that makes me wonder, just how long would it take to play from 1941 to the end if you played an hour or 2 a day? It might last longer than the life of a cheap computer!

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RE: The most prized target for Imperial Japanese pilots... - 7/22/2007 5:15:15 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: ilovestrategy

July 1945? Reading that makes me wonder, just how long would it take to play from 1941 to the end if you played an hour or 2 a day? It might last longer than the life of a cheap computer!

I started the game in December, 2005 and average playing time is probably around 2 hours a day.

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