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RE: NF - 10/7/2007 9:12:36 PM   
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Since we´re asking questions... I have two of my own.

4. How many replacement pilots does each side get per day? I cannot find the information in the manual.

that info was always on the quiet side, it is not in the manual or in any release notes

5. How does research into new plane types work (for the Axies), and when can I expect the new plane types to arrive?

old game, 100 frames, 100 engines and 100 parts, would advance the new plane model by one month (if the plane needed 1 part each) we made double this



And a comment regarding LW raids on Allied airfields... sure, the Allied player cannot react to that - however, he COULD detail squadrons to defensive patrols during the planning phase, and these squadrons could then react according to a pre-determined doctrine when German planes approach. On the other hand, I agree that this would break the whole asymmetrical model of gameplay.

yes, but also remember, there are units on defence mode, that are not in the game for this reason, they are seen as being on patrol protecting the homeland



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RE: NF - 10/8/2007 11:29:56 AM   
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In BoB, info about replacement pilots was in the Readme file.
Any particular reason why it´s being kept quiet?

Re: raids and defense mode - but if the units were in the game, the Allies could set them to defense mode, the Axis could designate squadrons as raiders, and there could be an abstract model for raids - such as, every Allied bomber squadron has a certain chance of being followed by a raider and being bombed as they land (I think that´s how they did it IRL), every such raider has a chance of being attacked by defensive patrols. Oh well, a man can dream, can´t he?

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RE: NF - 10/8/2007 3:15:10 PM   
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(18) New Pilot Replacement Rates
Each nationality has a certain number of pilots it can receive each day. If your losses outstrip your supply of pilots, then you won't be able to fill your units. What you get is based on need.  In 1940, Germans can expect to receive 15 new pilots each day; 10 British; 4 Canadian; 2 Polish; 2 Czech; 10 Americans. For 1941 campaigns, the amount is double the amounts for 1940 campaigns. New pilots have a low experience. On average, it will be 40 for Germans, 45 for British/Poles/Canadians/Czech, and 50 for Americans. New Zealand and Australians also get their own replacement pilots.

hmmm, now that is very odd, there were "only" around 10 Americans recorded as being BoB pilots (I say only, as there were more, but they were set up as being RCAF and not US)

which I do not see or know why there are American pilots in the old game, there are no so called American units, so they wouldn't be used, also the RCAF is very high for the number of Units in Action, while the Poles and to a lesser amount the Czech are low

(we don't use that replacement rate)(and I have added the American Eagle Squadrons to the 41 Campaign)




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RE: NF - 10/8/2007 3:47:24 PM   
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old game, 100 frames, 100 engines and 100 parts, would advance the new plane model by one month (if the plane needed 1 part each) we made double this


For clarification, you doubled the rates needed (IE, now require 200 of each item) ?

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RE: NF - 10/8/2007 4:26:58 PM   
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no, we are debateing it

I am sorry my bad, that should of read we may not we made




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RE: NF - 10/8/2007 5:25:10 PM   
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ahh, ok. Thanx for quick reply :)

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RE: NF - 10/8/2007 7:17:01 PM   
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(18) New Pilot Replacement Rates
Each nationality has a certain number of pilots it can receive each day. If your losses outstrip your supply of pilots, then you won't be able to fill your units. What you get is based on need.  In 1940, Germans can expect to receive 15 new pilots each day; 10 British; 4 Canadian; 2 Polish; 2 Czech; 10 Americans. For 1941 campaigns, the amount is double the amounts for 1940 campaigns. New pilots have a low experience. On average, it will be 40 for Germans, 45 for British/Poles/Canadians/Czech, and 50 for Americans. New Zealand and Australians also get their own replacement pilots.

hmmm, now that is very odd, there were "only" around 10 Americans recorded as being BoB pilots (I say only, as there were more, but they were set up as being RCAF and not US)

which I do not see or know why there are American pilots in the old game, there are no so called American units, so they wouldn't be used, also the RCAF is very high for the number of Units in Action, while the Poles and to a lesser amount the Czech are low

(we don't use that replacement rate)(and I have added the American Eagle Squadrons to the 41 Campaign)





Yeah, that´s what I was talking about.

And IIRC there is one American squadron, at least in the 41 campaign... 73 Squadron, IIRC, flying the Hurricane I.

FWIW I have always considered "10 Americans" as a typo, meant to say "1 American". That would make more sense considered the number of squadrons, and incidentally would also put the nationalities in descending order of number of replacement pilots.

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RE: NF - 10/9/2007 3:06:20 AM   
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Of interest in any debate about the expereince of new pilots may be a graph of flying training hours about half way down this page - http://www.airpower.au.af.mil/airchronicles/aureview/1983/Mar-Apr/murray.htm

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