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RE: The rant goes on... Pzjg Hortlund vs Castor Troy - 2/11/2008 3:05:00 PM   
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Sub attack near Rabaul at 61,88

Japanese Ships
CL Yubari
DD Kari
CA Tone

Allied Ships
SS Wahoo

Wahoo is on mine laying mission (while on transit from the West coast) and after entering Rabaul´s port CL Yubari is target of a salvo of 4 torps... we miss...

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Day Air attack on Kai Island , at 39,78

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 59
Ki-21 Sally x 20
Ki-49 Helen x 21

No Japanese losses

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 32

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x Ki-43-Ic Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Kai Island , at 39,78

Japanese aircraft
G3M Nell x 24

No Japanese losses

Runway hits 4

Aircraft Attacking:
14 x G3M Nell bombing at 11000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 54,94

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 6

Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 36
B-17E Fortress x 16

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
B-25C Mitchell: 4 damaged
B-17E Fortress: 3 damaged

Japanese Ships
AP Teiryu Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AP Tango Maru, Bomb hits 11, on fire, heavy damage
AP Chinko Maru
MSW Noshiro Maru #2, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
AP Somedono Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AP Zyuyo Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet

leaky Cap from Gili Gili but this doesn´t stop our bombers, nor does it really disrupt them. I can´t say exactly what happened during the attack (as my combat report seemed to be out of synch - all was the same but the hits on the ships). Couple of ships are obviously in trouble. Tomorrow we will venture in with our carriers again. There are a lot of Helens on Gili Gili, all set to naval search or ASW patrol as my subs are again hit daily. There´s no place anymore where IJA bombers are used for airfield, port or ground attack so I guess they are all on anti sub duty now... Port Moresby has no bombers and there´s a big CAP over Gili Gili. So if there will be a strike from Gili Gili against my carriers then it won´t have many escorts and my Cap should deal with the incoming bombers. Leaves Lae as possible base that could launch a long range strike.

As a side note, 80%+ of the damaged or sunk subs are hit by aircraft...

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RE: The rant goes on... Pzjg Hortlund vs Castor Troy - 2/11/2008 8:33:01 PM   
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ASW attack near Kodiak at 108,34

Japanese Ships
SS RO-33, hits 1

Allied Ships
DD Farragut
DD Dewey
DD Hull

RO-33 has been sitting in the base for a couple of days and today our DDs welcome the bugger with one near miss...

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Port Moresby at 53,91

Japanese Ships
AK Getuyo Maru, Shell hits 7, Torpedo hits 2, and is sunk

Allied Ships
CL Helena
DD Mugford

We wanted to engage the Japanese light cruiser TF but first we sink a big AK...

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Port Moresby at 53,91

Japanese Ships
CL Isuzu, Shell hits 2, on fire
CL Tama
DD Isokaze, Shell hits 2, on fire
DD Okikaze

Allied Ships
CL Helena
DD Mugford, Shell hits 5, on fire

Then the Japanese cruiser squadron shows up. Isokaze shot up DD Mugford and Helena´s performance was really poor. A 5 inch and a 6 inch hit on Isuzu (both penetrating the belt armor), then the battle is over. When we are sending in superior forces (and I really think that a Helena class CL is far superior to two Japanese CLs that are out of torps) then the battle is over immediately, seing only one round. When I sent in my 3 DDs there were as many rounds as it took until my DDs were sunk...

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Day Air attack on Lashio , at 35,30

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 6

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb x 72
Spitfire Vb x 5
P-40E Warhawk x 21
Hurricane IIc x 16

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIb: 1 damaged
Spitfire Vb: 1 damaged
P-40E Warhawk: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
12 casualties reported

Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 17

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x Hurricane IIb bombing at 2000 feet

we have to keep up our pilot training...

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Day Air attack on Lashio , at 35,30

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 47

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb x 80
P-40E Warhawk x 81
Hurricane IIc x 16
A-20B Boston x 1

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 28 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIb: 17 destroyed, 46 damaged
P-40E Warhawk: 3 destroyed, 44 damaged
Hurricane IIc: 3 destroyed, 10 damaged

after our airfield strike we sent a sweep to engage the IJA fighters that were being alerted. Unfortunately, the Hurricane once again proves to be a piece of chunk compared to the Oscar. Even though those are my most experienced pilots (mostly 70+) the Hurricanes are absolutely helpless against the IJA fighters. When the Tojo will show up in late 42, there´s no way to use Hurricanes anymore. As bad as the Hurricane performs, as well is the Warhawk performing (with less exp pilots). I guess the P-40 achieved a kill rate better than 5:1 and this is absolutely amazing. Lots of the damaged aircraft were lost but in the end we achieve a positive kill rate (30:31 in A2A). Looking at the pilots, we lost 5 Warhawk pilots and 17 Hurricane pilots. What is surprising again is the fact that Hortlund moved out all his fighters from Mandalay, pulling them back to Rangoon. So either he´s planning something or 1:1 losses are something he doesn´t like. Mandalay has some 60.000+ reported troops so I guess it´s full of AA regiments and base forces, probably the best defended base on the map. Perhaps I will try a high level attack at some point but I´m not sure it´s worth it.



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Day Air attack on Akyab , at 30,29


Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb x 30
Wellington III x 97


Allied aircraft losses
Wellington III: 8 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
130 casualties reported

Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 71

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Wellington III bombing at 11000 feet

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Day Air attack on Akyab , at 30,29


Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb x 16
CW-22 Falcon x 6
Wellington III x 27
Hurricane IIc x 14
B-26B Marauder x 46


Allied aircraft losses
Wellington III: 1 damaged
B-26B Marauder: 8 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
82 casualties reported

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 69

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Wellington III bombing at 11000 feet

we keep on hitting Akyab´s airfield, unfortunately only a few supply hits... Airfield is 100% damaged, I don´t know how long it takes until it´s completely repaired, but I guess there are somewhere around 100 eng at Akyab.

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Day Air attack on Kai Island , at 39,78

Japanese aircraft
G3M Nell x 26

No Japanese losses

Runway hits 6

Aircraft Attacking:
26 x G3M Nell bombing at 11000 feet
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Day Air attack on 125th IJNAF Base Force, at 100,64


Allied aircraft
B-26B Marauder x 55


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
109 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-26B Marauder bombing at 16000 feet

Hortlund provided us with a training target that we can engage from Midway. This is the dot base 5 hexes East of Midway where he landed some troops...

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Day Air attack on TF at 55,95


Allied aircraft
Albacore x 22
Martlet II x 7


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AP Zyuyo Maru, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AP Somedono Maru, on fire, heavy damage
AP Tango Maru, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x Albacore launching torpedoes at 200 feet

we sent in the carriers again and this time they end up in the best position they could be. They moved as many hexes as we ordered and the empty enemy convoy of APs ends up 4 hexes from my carriers... a slaughter begins...

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Day Air attack on TF at 55,95


Allied aircraft
Albacore x 16
F4F-4 Wildcat x 5
SBD Dauntless x 68
TBF Avenger x 36


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AP Tango Maru, on fire, heavy damage
AP Somedono Maru, Bomb hits 7, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AP Teiryu Maru, Bomb hits 3, Torpedo hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
AP Zyuyo Maru, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet


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Day Air attack on TF at 55,95


Allied aircraft
SBD Dauntless x 17


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AP Zyuyo Maru, on fire, heavy damage
AP Somedono Maru, on fire, heavy damage
AP Tango Maru, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 55,95


Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 3
SBD Dauntless x 17


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AP Zyuyo Maru, on fire, heavy damage
AP Somedono Maru, on fire, heavy damage
AP Teiryu Maru, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 55,95


Allied aircraft
TBF Avenger x 15


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AP Zyuyo Maru, on fire, heavy damage
AP Tango Maru, on fire, heavy damage
AP Somedono Maru, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x TBF Avenger launching torpedoes at 200 feet


wave after wave tries to attack the ships that are already sunk. I´m really worried about those uncoordinated strikes! My CV TFs consist of max 2 CVs so it shouldn´t be impossible to launch a coordinated strike... doesn´t seem so. What also worried me is the fact that the enemy TF is just one hex West of Gili Gili where we see 60+ fighters on Cap but we´re luck, there´s no leaky Cap that could chew up unescorted wave after wave...

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Day Air attack on TF at 55,95


Allied aircraft
F4F-4 Wildcat x 2
SBD Dauntless x 34
TBF Avenger x 15


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
MSW Tama Maru #5, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AP Taizin Maru, Bomb hits 7, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AP Taihei Maru
AP Chinko Maru, Torpedo hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet

Hortlund splitted the TF and while the majority tries to engage already sunken ships, the other convoy seems to get away before completely destroyed...

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Day Air attack on TF at 55,99

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 15
G4M1 Betty x 9

Allied aircraft
Martlet II x 50
F4F-4 Wildcat x 73

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 12 destroyed
G4M1 Betty: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Martlet II: 3 damaged
F4F-4 Wildcat: 2 destroyed, 13 damaged

and here comes the expected small strike from Gili Gili. In the end we take down 12 Zeroes and 3 Betties, while losing 3 Wildcats (2 pilots). A 5:1 kill rate with at least 13 IJN pilots that didn´t return, something I can surely live with, especially as the USN pilots are coming in at 60 exp, compared to all other pilots with max 55 exp... 8 out of 9 Betties turned back due to low morale, escaping their death...

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Day Air attack on TF at 55,95


Allied aircraft
Martlet II x 6
F4F-4 Wildcat x 8
SBD Dauntless x 14


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AP Taizin Maru, on fire, heavy damage
AP Chinko Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet

this tiny strike is all we get in the afternoon... In the end, we take down 15 IJN pilots and sink 4 medium sized APs (with another one probably in sinking condition) and a MSW. We lose 2 SBDs and 3 F4-F4s. Now the CVs are steaming away full speed as Hortlund surely moved at least 2 daitais of Betties to Gili Gili and did set his Zeroes on escort. We "should" end up 13 hexes away, so easily out of Zero range. We could even end up one hex short to be out of Zero range... we will see. 54 unescorted Betties would get surely slaughtered with a CAP of nearly 130 fighters...

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Day Air attack on TF at 51,95

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 4
G4M1 Betty x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 3 damaged

Allied Ships
DD Mugford, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x G4M1 Betty launching torpedoes at 200 feet


damn it! We´re begging on the forum to see our bombers not killing theirself against CV or land based Cap when there are other targets in range. So far unheard, but it seems Hortlund is able to do exactly this! In the morning thoses Betties turn back due to low morale and escape. In the afternoon, instead of again attacking my CVs, they go after the single DD 6 hexes West of Gili Gili... the DD is dead of course... I have to rethink those surface raids in this area as I´m not really willing to take those losses for nothing... either because my DDs suffer from round after round against CLs or due to super short engagements when I send in a superior ship. Lost 4 DDs in a week for one AK sunk, a DD and a CL damaged. That isn´t acceptable...



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RE: The rant goes on... Pzjg Hortlund vs Castor Troy - 2/12/2008 7:13:54 PM   
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Day Air attack on Lashio , at 35,30


Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb x 61
P-40E Warhawk x 66
Hurricane IIc x 16


No Allied losses

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 34

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x Hurricane IIb bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Kai Island , at 39,78

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 65
Ki-21 Sally x 23
Ki-49 Helen x 25

No Japanese losses

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 45

Aircraft Attacking:
17 x Ki-43-Ic Oscar bombing at 2000 feet


only training raids from both sides today...


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RE: The rant goes on... Pzjg Hortlund vs Castor Troy - 2/12/2008 7:16:38 PM   
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Sub attack near Kodiak at 108,34

Japanese Ships
SS RO-33

Allied Ships
TK Angelina, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

this is the sub that has been sitting in my base hex for over a week. Sitting there being spotted and attacked by Marauders and being attacked by my DDs... once again I was dumb to think that it would be possible to send in a ship of mine... the TK will make it...

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Day Air attack on Lashio , at 35,30


Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb x 65
P-40E Warhawk x 49
Hurricane IIc x 13


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
4 casualties reported

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 16

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x Hurricane IIb bombing at 2000 feet

with the retreat of the IJAAF to Rangoon, this gives me the chance to increase the exp of British pilots...

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Day Air attack on Kai Island , at 39,78

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 64
Ki-21 Sally x 22
Ki-48 Lily x 27
Ki-49 Helen x 24

No Japanese losses

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 32

Aircraft Attacking:
17 x Ki-43-Ic Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
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ASW attack near Kodiak at 108,34

Japanese Ships
SS RO-33, hits 7

Allied Ships
DD Hull
DD Dewey
DD Farragut

at the end of the day my DDs finally thought they could take revenge for our TK that was hit. One real hit, 6 near misses...


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RE: The rant goes on... Pzjg Hortlund vs Castor Troy - 2/12/2008 7:18:34 PM   
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Status: offline 		And here´s an interesting screenshot of China. Look at Tientsin! Now I don´t wonder why I had to face so many Japanese troops in China, Hortlund seems to not care at all about garrison requirements. Not even if he loses a lot of factories, oil and ressource sites. Unbelievable to me!




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RE: The rant goes on... Pzjg Hortlund vs Castor Troy - 2/12/2008 7:24:59 PM   
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TF 21 encounters mine field at Rabaul (61,88)

Japanese Ships
MSW Shawa Maru #10

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ASW attack at 13,20

Japanese Ships
SS I-11, hits 4, on fire

Allied Ships
DD Norman
DD Inconstant
DD Decoy
DD Arrow
DD Van Galen
DD Isaac Sweers

one real hit, 3 near misses... on the shipping lanes a couple of hexes NE of Colombo...

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ASW attack at 42,78

Japanese Ships
MSW Tokuho Maru #5
MSW Mejima Maru

Allied Ships
SS Grenadier

another convoy seems to be going South from the SRA to Thursday island...

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Day Air attack on Lashio , at 35,30


Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb x 81
Spitfire Vb x 11
P-40E Warhawk x 72
Hurricane IIc x 16


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
5 casualties reported

Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 25

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x Hurricane IIb bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Lashio , at 35,30


Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb x 67
P-40E Warhawk x 62
Hurricane IIc x 9


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
11 casualties reported

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 14

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x Hurricane IIb bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Akyab , at 30,29


Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb x 32
Wellington III x 97


Allied aircraft losses
Wellington III: 4 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
22 casualties reported

Airbase hits 5
Runway hits 27

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Wellington III bombing at 16000 feet
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Day Air attack on Kai Island , at 39,78

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 64
Ki-21 Sally x 21
Ki-48 Lily x 26
Ki-49 Helen x 25

No Japanese losses

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 34

Aircraft Attacking:
17 x Ki-43-Ic Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Thursday Island , at 49,90

Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 26
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 6

Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 121

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3 Zero: 26 damaged
Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
B-25C Mitchell: 16 destroyed, 86 damaged

Runway hits 4

Aircraft Attacking:
35 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 11000 feet


Nikmod flak.... one attack and you have to wait two weeks until your squadrons are up to 80% operational strenght again... 20 B-25s were lost today and we achieved 4!!!! runway hits, the equivalent of what 2 Kates would achieve...


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Day Air attack on 125th IJNAF Base Force, at 100,64


Allied aircraft
B-26B Marauder x 44


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
33 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-26B Marauder bombing at 20000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Thursday Island at 49,90

Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 26
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 6

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 36

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3 Zero: 16 damaged
Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 20 damaged

Japanese Ships
AK Tokihime Maru, Bomb hits 8, on fire, heavy damage
AK Bushu Maru, Bomb hits 5, on fire, heavy damage
AK Panama Maru, Bomb hits 7, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet

at least the sacrifice of our B-25 made this attack possible. Amazing hit rate out of a sudden. Must have been my best pilots today. All AKs are dead, two sunk outright. No supply for Thursday island. Must have been LRCAP from Port Moresby as recon shows no fighters at Thursday island and only a very small Cap was seen at Port Moresby... It´s a shame that exactly today the airfield strike went off, when it´s the first day of Cap over Thursday Island. This strike has been ordered since a week...

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RE: The rant goes on... Pzjg Hortlund vs Castor Troy - 2/12/2008 11:30:21 PM   
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Day Air attack on Lashio , at 35,30


Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb x 56
Spitfire Vb x 12
P-40E Warhawk x 46
Hurricane IIc x 14


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
34 casualties reported

Runway hits 35

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Hurricane IIb bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Lashio , at 35,30


Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb x 52
P-40E Warhawk x 62
Hurricane IIc x 9
A-20B Boston x 1


No Allied losses

Runway hits 26

Aircraft Attacking:
13 x Hurricane IIb bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Kai Island , at 39,78

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 30
Ki-21 Sally x 6
Ki-48 Lily x 18
Ki-49 Helen x 16

No Japanese losses

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 29

Aircraft Attacking:
13 x Ki-43-Ic Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 125th IJNAF Base Force, at 100,64


Allied aircraft
B-26B Marauder x 44


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
20 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-26B Marauder bombing at 20000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Thursday Island at 49,90

Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 21
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 7

Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 15
B-17E Fortress x 13

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3 Zero: 11 damaged
Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 2 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
B-25C Mitchell: 1 destroyed, 13 damaged
B-17E Fortress: 9 damaged

Japanese Ships
CL Tama
DD Okikaze

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet
3 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 1000 feet

no chance to hit the agile ships after being heavily disrupted by the fighters...


asigint:

31st Heavy AA Battalion is loaded on AP,Meisho Maru moving to Gili Gili.

I think I already got a dozen messages of AA battalions being moved on ships somewhere. If we take all the AA batalions and regiments where I don´t get intel about... Gili Gili is absolutely a flak base already, nevertheless more and more AA regiments are brought to the front. What Nikmod absolutely needs are stacking limits for units with AA guns! This gets ridicoulos. 90% of my bombers (125 attacking) were damaged with 20 being lost (attack height 11.000) over Thursday Island (I also got intel about an AA regiment being loaded moving to Thursday Island). I know the old story about people filling up bases with a lot of units don´t have units elsewhere but this is just BS as my opponent just doesn´t need AA regiments at Lunga, Rabaul, Truk, Lae or wherever in this region, HE NEEDS THEM AT THREE BASES AND THERE ARE DOZEN OF UNITS WITH AA GUNS... If there are perhaps 80 AA battalions or regiments the Japanese player can place 4 on 20 important bases and there are most certainly never more than 20 bases being front line bases that have to be defended. At the moment there are 3 on Timor, 3 on New Guinea and 3 in Burma. Makes a total of 9 bases that have to be defended by flak guns. Easily enough AA btn around and then there are another 200 base forces... Before a base will fall it´s easy to take back your AA btn and place them one base further back, so I guess flak will be the main problem for me for the entire campaign. Flak war in the Pacific...

I would guess it would be better to increase the ability of fighters to take down a bomber while the flak has to be definetely toned down. It´s absolutely "a bit" off the way if flak is 5-7 times more effective than fighters are. I doubt Japanese flak was that strong, nor Japanese fighters that weak. Of course stacking limits could at least somewhat increase the situation. While Hortlund surely enjoys it seeing 2 complete bomber groups being shot up after just one attack, I have already limited myself in my game against Swift to no more than 2 or 3 AA btn at major bases.





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Day Air attack on Akyab , at 30,29

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb x 32
Wellington III x 97

Japanese aircraft losses
D3A Val: 4 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Wellington III: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
148 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 97

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x Wellington III bombing at 11000 feet

Akyab has a daitai of Vals now, probably to attack my subs in this area (very few of them) and to attack my MSW (none are left in the area). What is interesting is the fact that there are several IJN subs spotted in this area now. This smells like a resupply mission going to Akyab, perhaps also some troops being brought in. This could fit to the fact that all the IJA/IJN fighters left Mandalay earlier. They are all sitting at Rangoon now. We will increase our naval search aircraft.

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Day Air attack on Akyab , at 30,29


Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb x 16
CW-22 Falcon x 6
Wellington III x 31
Hurricane IIc x 16
B-26B Marauder x 43


Allied aircraft losses
Wellington III: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
31 casualties reported

Airbase hits 4
Runway hits 55

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Wellington III bombing at 11000 feet

Akyab airfield "should" be closed...

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Day Air attack on Kai Island , at 39,78

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 28
Ki-21 Sally x 19
Ki-48 Lily x 20
Ki-49 Helen x 17

No Japanese losses

Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 49

Aircraft Attacking:
14 x Ki-43-Ic Oscar bombing at 2000 feet

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Day Air attack on 125th IJNAF Base Force, at 100,64


Allied aircraft
B-26B Marauder x 46


No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-26B Marauder bombing at 20000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Thursday Island at 49,90

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 6
A6M3 Zero x 36
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 8

Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 24
B-17E Fortress x 61

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 4 damaged
A6M3 Zero: 31 damaged
Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 8 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
B-25C Mitchell: 2 destroyed, 17 damaged
B-17E Fortress: 1 destroyed, 51 damaged

Japanese Ships
CL Tama, Bomb hits 23, on fire, heavy damage
DD Okikaze, Bomb hits 1, on fire

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet


CL Tama isn´t 500lb bomb prove. The Japanese fighters once again fail to take down big numbers of bombers but again I have over 80% damaged. Morale of all involved bombers is near the bottom of course and the repair rate of B-17s is somewhere around 3 a day, means those bombers will be repaired in 2,5 weeks again. Some 40 Mitchells and 30-35 B-17s operational left on the North East coast of Australia. Even though we sunk the CL the attack on Thursday island (4 runway hits, 20 bombers shot down and 80 damaged) and this attack means we have now only around 70 operational bombers left out of 300. Today 8 bombers were lost, which means this would be somewhere near a disaster in real life (not to talk about nearly all the rest being damaged) but losing the CL surely depressed Hortlund (as I see in his email) but even in stock, this ship would have been sunk by this high number of bombers. Loss rate of bombers would be around 30 though.

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Tama was the second of five vessels in the Kuma-class of light cruisers. As with its sister ships, it was intended for use both as a long-range, high speed scout ship, and also as a command vessel for destroyer or submarine flotillas.


Service life
Tama was completed at Mitsubishi Heavy Industries Nagasaki shipyard on 29 January 1921. Immediately after commissioning, Tama was assigned to cover the landings of Japanese troops in Siberia during Japan's Siberian Intervention against the Bolshevik Red Army.

In 1925, Tama was tasked with making a diplomatic voyage to San Pedro in the United States, to return the remains of US Ambassador to Japan, who had died in Tokyo. In 1932, with the Manchurian Incident, Tama was assigned to patrol the northern coasts of China, from its base in Taiwan. However, as the war in China continued to escalate, Tama was involved in operations to cover the landings of Japanese troops in central China.

On 10 January 1935, the German naval attach¨¦ in Tokyo, Captain Paul Wenneker was invited by Admiral Nobumasa Suetsugu to tour Tama, Kongo and submarine I-2 at Yokosuka Navy Base. Wenneker was reportedly unimpressed with Japanese naval artillery, and advocated increase use of submarine warfare. [2]


Northern operations
On 10 September 1941, Tama became flagship of Vice Admiral Boshiro Hosogaya's CruDiv 21 with the light cruiser Kiso, in the Japanese 5th Fleet. Tama and Kiso were sent north to Hokkaid¨­, in Arctic white camouflage, on 2 December 1941, and were patrolling in the Kurile Islands, at the time of the attack on Pearl Harbor. Both cruisers' hulls were damaged by severe weather, and both returned to dry dock at Yokosuka by the end of the year.

On 21 January 1942, CruDiv 21 departed Yokosuka and was again sent north on patrols around Hokkaid¨­, but was recalled after 38 aircraft of US Task Force 16 (USS Enterprise (CV-6)) made a dawn raid on Marcus Island on 5 March 1942. Tama was assigned to the Japanese 1st Fleet with the Hyuga and Ise, and sortied from Hashirajima to search for Admiral William F Halsey, but failed to locate his forces after several weeks of searching.

On 5 April 1942, CruDiv 21 returned to northern waters, but on 18 April 1942 the Doolittle Raid struck targets in Tokyo, Yokohama, Osaka, Nagoya and Kobe. Tama was again recalled to join in another unsuccessful pursuit of Halsey. For the rest of April and most of May, Tama resumed its northern patrols.

On 28 May 1942, Tama departed Mutsu Bay to participate in the "Operation AL" (the seizure of Attu and Kiska) in the Battle of the Aleutian Islands. After successfully landing forces to seize the islands, CruDiv 21 returned to Mutsu Bay on 23 June 1942. However, Tama was quickly sent back to cover the second reinforcement convoy to Kiska, then patrolled southwest of Kiska in anticipation of an American counter-attack until 2 August 1942. After a brief return to Yokosuka for maintenance, Tama covered the transfer of the Attu garrison to Kiska. On 25 October 1942, CruDiv 21 embarked further reinforcements at Kashiwabara, Paramushiro to Attu. Tama continued to patrol the Aleutians and the Kurile islands and around Hokkaido until 6 January 1943, making another supply run to Kiska in November.

After refit at Yokosuka in early February 1943, Tama again patrolled north from Ominato to Kataoka (Simushir island), to Kashiwabara (Paramushiro) to 7 March 1943. Another major supply run to Attu was made from 7 March to 13 March 1943.

On 23 March 1943, Tama departed Paramushiro towards Attu with Vice Admiral Hosogaya's Fifth Fleet cruisers Nachi and Maya, light cruiser Abukuma and destroyers Ikazuchi, Inazuma, Usugumo, Hatsushimo and Wakaba escorting a three-ship reinforcement carrying troops and supplies for the garrison on Attu. At the Battle of the Komandorski Islands on 26 March 1943, against USN Task Group 16.6 with the USS Richmond (CL-9), USS Salt Lake City (CA-25) and four destroyers, in a four-hour running gun and torpedo battle, the Salt Lake City and the USS Bailey (DD-492) were damaged by gunfire. The other destroyers were not damaged. Tama was undamaged, but Nachi was hit several times; however, the Japanese aborted the resupply mission, and returned to Paramushiro on 28 March 1943. Disgraced by retreating from an inferior force, Hosogaya was relieved of command and forced to retire. Vice Admiral Shiro Kawase assumed command of the Fifth Fleet.

Tama remained on guard duty at Kataoka for over a month and then was sent to Maizuru for a refit on 4 May 1943. It was thus absent during the "American Operation Landcrab" to retake the Aleutian Islands, and during Japanese evacuation of Kiska on 19 May 1943. Returning to Kataoka only on 23 May 1943, the Tama resumed guard duties until 5 July 1943. During ¡°Operation Ke-Go" (the evacuation of Kiska) on 7 July 1943) Tama's engines were considered too unreliable for her to participate directly in the evacuation, and it remained behind at Paramushiro. In any event, the mission was aborted due to weather. Tama remained on guard duty in the Kuriles until 30 August 1943.


Operations in southern waters
After a refit at Yokosuka, Tama was sent south with troops and supplies for Ponape, Caroline Islands on 15 September 1943. After stopping by Truk, and returning to Kure, the Tama was ordered to Shanghai on 11 October 1943, to ferry additional troops to Truk and Rabaul, New Britain. After disembarking the reinforcements at Rabaul, Tama was attacked by RAAF Bristol Beaufort bombers from Guadalcanal on 21 October 1943. The Tama's hull plates were damaged by near-misses and it was forced return to Rabaul for emergency repairs.

On 27 October 1943, Tama returned to Yokosuka for a major refit, Its Nos. 5 and No.7 140-mm guns were removed along with its catapult and derrick. A twin 127-mm HA gun was fitted, as were four triple mount and six single mount Type 96 25-mm AA guns. This brought Tama's total number of 25-mm guns to 22 barrels (4x3, 2x2, 6x1). A type 21 air search radar was also fitted. Repairs and modifications were completed on 9 December 1943.

Tama departed Yokosuka 24 December 1943, again for northern waters and remained on patrol to 19 June 1944. Returning to Yokosuka by 22 June 1944, Tama then starts to ferrying army reinforcements to the Ogasawara islands, making two runs to 12 August 1944.

On 30 August 1944, Tama was transferred from CruDiv 21, Fifth Fleet to become flagship of DesRon 11, Combined Fleet, replacing the lost Nagara.


Battle of Leyte Gulf
During the Battle of Leyte Gulf (20 October 1944), Tama was assigned to Vice Admiral Jisaburo Ozawa Northern Mobile ("Decoy") Force. During the Battle off Cape Engano (25 October 1944), Ozawa's force was attacked by American Task Force 38, with the USS Enterprise (CV-6), USS Essex (CV-9), USS Intrepid (CV-11), USS Franklin (CV-13), USS Lexington (CV-16), USS Independence (CVL-22), USS Belleau Wood (CVL-24), USS Langley (CVL-27), USS Cabot (CVL-28) and the USS San Jacinto (CVL-30). Tama was attacked by TBM Avenger torpedo-bombers from VT-21 of the Belleau Wood and VT-51 from the San Jacinto. A Mark 13 torpedo hit the Tama in her No. 2 boiler room. After emergency repairs, the Tama retired from the battle, escorted by the Isuzu, but the Isuzu was ordered to protect the damaged aircraft carrier Chiyoda. The Tama was then escorted by the destroyer Shimotsuki, but later the Shimotsuki too was ordered to assist the damaged carrier Zuiho. Tama proceeded alone at 14 knots towards Okinawa.

Northeast of Luzon, Tama's luck ran out, as the USS Jallao (SS-368), on her first war patrol, picked up the Tama on radar. Its attack of three bow torpedoes from 1,000 yards missed, but its second salvo of four stern torpedoes from 800 yards was more successful. Three torpedoes hit Tama, breaking it in two, and sinking it within minutes, with all hands at 21¡ã23¡äN 127¡ã19¡äE / 21.383, 127.317.

Tama was removed from the Navy List on 20 December 1944.





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ASW attack at 47,88

Japanese Ships
MSW Tokuho Maru #5
MSW Mejima Maru

Allied Ships
SS Grenadier

we are shadowing this TF on it´s way to Thursday Island with 4 subs and the damned TF had to pass a sub in EVERY hex it went through for the last week. No hits scored so far. Either the two MSW scare away our subs or our torps miss... would be really important to shoot up this supply or reinforcement convoy...

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Day Air attack on Lashio , at 35,30


Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb x 67
Spitfire Vb x 15
P-40E Warhawk x 74
Hurricane IIc x 16


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
6 casualties reported

Runway hits 44

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x Hurricane IIb bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Lashio , at 35,30


Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb x 78
P-40E Warhawk x 79
Hurricane IIc x 13


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
6 casualties reported

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 40

Aircraft Attacking:
14 x Hurricane IIb bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Tenimbar , at 36,81

Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 16
Ki-30 Ann x 3
Ki-49 Helen x 2

No Japanese losses

Airbase hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Ki-30 Ann bombing at 2000 feet

Tenimbar airfield (island North of Darwin) is built up to level 1 now. Took us 50!! days... Won´t ever reach level 2 I think... but immediately the Japanese airforce comes for a visit, but most bombers failed to locate the target...

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Day Air attack on Port Moresby Defense Brigade, at 54,92

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 15
A6M3 Zero x 7
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 4

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x A6M2 Zero bombing at 2000 feet
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Sub attack at 47,88

Japanese Ships
AK Tatuno Maru
MSW Tokuho Maru #5
MSW Mejima Maru

Allied Ships
SS Grenadier

voilà, next try to attack the convoy to Thursday Island... we miss...

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Day Air attack on Lashio , at 35,30


Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb x 53
Spitfire Vb x 16
P-40E Warhawk x 51
Hurricane IIc x 13


No Allied losses

Runway hits 29

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x Hurricane IIb bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 125th IJNAF Base Force, at 100,64


Allied aircraft
B-26B Marauder x 53


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
54 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-26B Marauder bombing at 20000 feet
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Day Air attack on Port Moresby Defense Brigade, at 54,92

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 34
A6M3 Zero x 5
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 3

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
13 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
13 x A6M2 Zero bombing at 2000 feet
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Sub attack near Thursday Island at 49,90

Japanese Ships
AK Nissyu Maru
MSW Tokuho Maru #5
MSW Mejima Maru

Allied Ships
SS Whale

again, we miss...


there are dozens of ships at Thursday Island, including CL Kitakami and a CA (forgot which one it is). And I´m not able to launch a bomber strike from Cooktown as the morale of my bombers is far too low due to the last attack where again 90% came back damaged (though with only a dozen shot down). Hortlund "complained" in an email on how crippled the Japanese are in Nikmod but he isn´t cheering about the fact now, that I´m not attacking the dozens of ships at Thursday. He just doesn´t see or think about the fact that he completely CRIPPLED my bomber force there after just ONE round against his Cap and UBER FLAK... all he sees is that he doesn´t get the kills he´s used to from stock, like seeing 50 Oscars taking down 30 or 40 B-17s in one attack...



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Day Air attack on Lashio , at 35,30


Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb x 64
Hurricane IIc x 15


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
11 casualties reported

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 25

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x Hurricane IIb bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Lashio , at 35,30


Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb x 79
P-40E Warhawk x 84
Hurricane IIc x 16


No Allied losses

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 30

Aircraft Attacking:
14 x Hurricane IIb bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Kai Island , at 39,78

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 68
Ki-21 Sally x 22
Ki-48 Lily x 23
Ki-49 Helen x 24

No Japanese losses

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 49

Aircraft Attacking:
23 x Ki-43-Ic Oscar bombing at 2000 feet


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Day Air attack on Tenimbar , at 36,81

Japanese aircraft
D3A Val x 8
Ki-30 Ann x 25

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
23 casualties reported

Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 19

Aircraft Attacking:
22 x Ki-30 Ann bombing at 2000 feet

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Day Air attack on 125th IJNAF Base Force, at 100,64


Allied aircraft
B-26B Marauder x 34


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
34 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-26B Marauder bombing at 20000 feet
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Day Air attack on Port Moresby Defense Brigade, at 54,92

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 34
A6M3 Zero x 4
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 3

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
13 x A6M2 Zero bombing at 2000 feet

the first five raids are all training raids...

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Day Air attack on TF at 51,91


Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 69


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
ML Ma 3, Bomb hits 5, on fire, heavy damage
ML Ma 2, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet

I was more than amazed to see this big number of B-17s. Thought I would be down to 40 operational at the moment. Counted them up, 64 were operational after this turn so with 69 attacking, it seems ALL took off to finish the two small MLs... Though moral is still a problem, all the TFs that are at Thursday Island and Port Moresby are capped and are not attacked.

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Day Air attack on TF at 23,23

Japanese aircraft
B5N Kate x 22

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N Kate: 2 damaged

Allied Ships
DD Alden
DD Barker
DD John D. Edwards

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet

damn it, I forgot about three Flush Deck DDs that were sent out to attack an IJN sub... I will have to pay for that... though I also have to say that the position of the IJN CVEs just a couple of hexes away from 250 high experienced bombers is really optimistic... when seeing this TF popping up, I thought about it being already sunk by two huge strikes from India... no bomber launched... Second time Hortlund is very lucky here, last time he parked his BBs in range of 50 torp bombers at Chandpur and to top it off he did the same at Diamond Harbour. This seems to be really suicide, he just has not to complain about getting his ships sunk when he moves within 6 hexes of 250 Allied bombers... and this has nothing to do with Nikmod, in some way, this is just plain stupid... sorry...

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Day Air attack on TF at 23,23

Japanese aircraft
B5N Kate x 5

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N Kate: 2 damaged

Allied Ships
DD Alden, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet

first DD sunk...

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Day Air attack on TF at 23,23

Japanese aircraft
E13A1 Jake x 2

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
DD John D. Edwards

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x E13A1 Jake bombing at 2000 feet

as usual, the CS are escorting the CVEs...

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Day Air attack on TF at 23,23

Japanese aircraft
E7K2 Alf x 3

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
DD John D. Edwards

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x E7K2 Alf bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 23,23

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 4
B5N Kate x 18
E7K2 Alf x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N Kate: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
DD John D. Edwards
DD Barker, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B5N Kate launching torpedoes at 200 feet

and a second DD is sunk. The last one will retire at full speed...

Here´s the situation South of India. What the heck is Hortlund planning. Lots of subs around and now even his CVEs are parked at a "suicide position". I doubt this is going to be an invasion of India, this would just end the game with a Japanese surrender! So all I can think of is a supply or reinforcement convoy to Akyab or even an attempt to pick up the troops there. In all cases, it will be a very dangerous attempt if he really wants to move in range of 250 bombers and 350+ fighters and fighter bombers. Since a couple of turns, Hortlund has ordered LRCAP from Rangoon to Akyab. The airfield is still reported being 64% damaged with the airbase surely 100%. Perhaps the next couple of turns could get interesting. I have a lot of search planes in the air so if there is coming something big, I should spot it when it is some 10 hexes South of Chandpur.






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Day Air attack on 125th IJNAF Base Force, at 100,64


Allied aircraft
B-26B Marauder x 39


No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-26B Marauder bombing at 20000 feet
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Day Air attack on Port Moresby Defense Brigade, at 54,92

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 32
A6M3 Zero x 8
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 3

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
13 x A6M2 Zero bombing at 2000 feet


two training raids today and that´s it...


and we got another intel of ANOTHER AA unit going to the front in New Guinea... I really hope to catch them at some point then Hortlund will have a Japan without AA regiments later in the war...


SIG INT REPORT FOR 08/11/42

16th Army is located at Kwajalein.
Soya Fortress is located at Wakkanai.
12th Heavy AA Battalion is loaded on AP,Eli Maru moving to Gili Gili.

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Sub attack near Thursday Island at 49,90

Japanese Ships
DD Kari

Allied Ships
SS Trout

salvo of 4 torps, fail to detonate...

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Day Air attack on Akyab , at 30,29

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb x 13
Spitfire Vb x 16
CW-22 Falcon x 1
Wellington III x 76

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-15 Babs: 5 destroyed
D3A Val: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Wellington III: 3 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
133 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 7
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 68

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x Wellington III bombing at 11000 feet

A dozen aircraft destroyed on the ground, one Spitfire lost to ops an a Wellington to ops...most of the escort stayed home even as they were ordered to fly to Akyab...

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Day Air attack on 125th IJNAF Base Force, at 100,64


Allied aircraft
B-26B Marauder x 50


No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-26B Marauder bombing at 20000 feet

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Day Air attack on Port Moresby Defense Brigade, at 54,92

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 32
A6M3 Zero x 4
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 3

No Japanese losses


Allied ground losses:
26 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
14 x A6M2 Zero bombing at 2000 feet
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Sub attack near Thursday Island at 49,90

Japanese Ships
DD Kari

Allied Ships
SS Trout

second attack on DD Kari today. Salvo of 6 torps, all miss... damn it, out of a sudden my subs have had an absolutely awful success rate...

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TF 185 encounters mine field at Truk (63,78)

Japanese Ships
MSW Hagoromo Maru
PG Seikai Maru

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Day Air attack on Port Moresby Defense Brigade, at 54,92

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 33
A6M3 Zero x 8
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 4

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
15 x A6M2 Zero bombing at 2000 feet


quiet days, I´m not able to get my aircraft flying. Wonder what´s happening in Burma. The CVEs are away again, looks like Hortlund just wanted to catch my 3 old DDs that I had forgotten about. But there are also fighters and bombers at Mandalay now. He also reconned far into India with Betties, but that´s surely just a failed attempt to make me nervous...



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TF 1052 encounters mine field at Dutch Harbor (103,36)

Allied Ships
PT PT-115, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

We got a sighting of an AK and a MSW at Dutch Harbour so we sent the PTs from the base 3 hexes East. All we find is a Type 93 mine that sinks a PT...

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Day Air attack on Kai Island , at 39,78

Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 18
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 80
Ki-21 Sally x 22
Ki-48 Lily x 24

No Japanese losses

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 33

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x Ki-43-Ic Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Tenimbar , at 36,81

Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 23
D3A Val x 9
Ki-30 Ann x 25
Ki-49 Helen x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
D3A Val: 1 damaged
Ki-30 Ann: 1 destroyed, 8 damaged
Ki-49 Helen: 4 damaged


Allied ground losses:
25 casualties reported

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 10

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 6000 feet

we moved a USN base force to Tenimbar and aircraft training there isn´t for free now... level 1 airfield and it will take 100 days to increase it to level 2...

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TF 123 encounters mine field at Rangoon (29,34)

Japanese Ships
SS I-11, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

I-11 returns to Rangoon and hits a sub laid VH2 in the harbour entrance. My two Dutch mine layer subs are very active in this area and they can replenish their mine load at Diamond Harbour just a couple of turns away from Rangoon, the main IJN base in the region. I-11 not reported sunk yet...

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Day Air attack on Akyab , at 30,29

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb x 16
Spitfire Vb x 14
CW-22 Falcon x 1
Wellington III x 75

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-15 Babs: 2 destroyed
D3A Val: 1 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Wellington III: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
75 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 3
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 67

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Wellington III bombing at 11000 feet

we get recon that there were fighters moved to Akyab this turn, as we can see the Japanese aircraft movements before we give orders... an AK TF is spotted 8 hexes South West of Akyab, far off the coast for a convoy that is ordered to go to Akyab but I think Hortlund just wants to avoid my subs on the normal shipping lane to Akyab. Seems there´s something coming in. Fighters at Akyab and fighters and bombers at Mandalay...

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Day Air attack on No. 112 RAN Base Force, at 54,92

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 25
A6M3 Zero x 4
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 4

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
21 x A6M2 Zero bombing at 2000 feet
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ASW attack at 47,112

Japanese Ships
SS RO-65

Allied Ships
DD Balch
DD Lamson
DD Mahan
DD Benham
DD Russell
DD Anderson

We sent out 7!! ASW Tfs (each consisting of 6 DDs) to hunt this sub. One gets a chance but no DCs are dropped even if we get a couple of messages of DD attacking sub... the sub is sitting just two hexes off Brisbane... the most dangerous area for a sub, but we remember: a several times spotted sub sunk Yorktown 2 hexes off Brisbane in a hex with 37 DDs...

< Message edited by castor troy -- 2/17/2008 4:08:29 PM >

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RE: The rant goes on... Pzjg Hortlund vs Castor Troy - 2/17/2008 5:58:13 PM   
castor troy


Posts: 14330
Joined: 8/23/2004
From: Austria
Status: offline 		AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 08/16/42

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Sub attack at 24,40

Japanese Ships
CS Chitose

Allied Ships
SS KVII

torps miss, Hortlund stays on the lucky side of the coin...

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ASW attack at 47,112

Japanese Ships
SS RO-65, hits 8, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
DD Balch
DD Lamson
DD Mahan
DD Benham
DD Russell

this time RO-65 is finished. 3 hits and 5 near misses, sub is confirmed sunk...

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TF 168 encounters mine field at Akyab (30,29)

Japanese Ships
MSW W.14
MSW W.12

two MSWs encountered some 12 or 13 mine fields, probably most of them are cleared... those MSWs weren´t spotted, more of the situation around Akyab later in this cr...

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Day Air attack on Dacca , at 31,24

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 25

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb x 4
P-40E Warhawk x 29
Hurricane IIc x 7

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 5 destroyed, 9 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIb: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged
P-40E Warhawk: 4 destroyed, 8 damaged

Nearly 100 fighters set to 70% Cap sees 40 in the air... I´m not able to get my fighters on Cap in the air when I´m playing the Japanese and the same goes for when I´m playing the Allied... This base must be in range of more than a dozen radars...

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Day Air attack on Kai Island , at 39,78

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 80
Ki-21 Sally x 22
Ki-48 Lily x 27

No Japanese losses

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 14

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x Ki-43-Ic Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Port Moresby Defense Brigade, at 54,92

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 28
A6M3 Zero x 4
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 4

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
23 x A6M2 Zero bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 29,27


Allied aircraft
Albacore x 20
Martlet II x 27


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
PG Shinko Maru #1, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Albacore launching torpedoes at 200 feet

this is a piket ship three hexes South of the coast of India... I find it REALLY strange to use this kind of picket ships but that´s how it is... What I also find strange (Hortlund would call it gamey - like everything I did in this campaign so far; the only thing of my moves that isn´t gamey is when I lose ships...) is the fact that he sends an armada of MINI TFs to Akyab... . Well if he would send 4-6 medium sized TFs, who cares, but we have spotted some 16 TFs consisting of one, or two ships. If we spotted 16 it means there are most likely more than 2 dozen mini TFs going to Akyab. No Steve, your moves are never gamey... This is just exploiting the game engine! As you can see, no more attacks on ships today, even though we have more than 200 bombers set on naval attack and most of those TFs are in range. And we have 300+ escorts. IMO it´s really BS to see this operation, he knows exactly that my attacks will be completely broken up to ridicoulos numbers with 70 bombers with 2 escorts attacking a single MSW when he always has his full Cap over his base. It´s BS... Soon I will deliberately look for "Trollelites" that I can exploit to the max in this campaign, knowing to risk the game as my opponent is pretty sensitive, when he thinks that something is gamey (which only can be gamey if your opponent is doing that...).

We also spotted a BB at Akyab, so perhaps my 60 torp bombers with 100 escorts will fly alltogether and at least sink this ship. Most of the ships will just get through in all those mini TFs...

have a look:




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ASW attack near Akyab at 30,29

Japanese Ships
PC Shonan Maru #2

Allied Ships
SS O20

hey, a single ship at Akyab?? This just sucks Steve... Hopefully he gets punished and loses his BB... if there´s no corrupt turn tomorrow...



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RE: The rant goes on... Pzjg Hortlund vs Castor Troy - 2/17/2008 6:53:07 PM   
castor troy


Posts: 14330
Joined: 8/23/2004
From: Austria
Status: offline 		At the moment, this game has stopped (better say I stopped it). Perhaps it has ended...

The combat report follows, this is what I wrote Hortlund:

Well, it was like I expected it to be. I just clicked the esc key during the replay and I really have to tell you that I won´t give any orders this turn or to make it more clear, I won´t play that turn at all... I won´t really comment using two dozen+ mini TFs either as you know that this is completely exploiting the game engine, seen in how my strikes have looked like… hmmm, this is not what I think I can accept, nor do I want to do my invasions with 250 mini TFs eiter… if you have a TF somewhere that has to be scattered because KB or an Allied death star shows up, well, but this operation to Akyab…


The engine went completely crazy of course due to the fact that there were dozens of mini TFs...

what a great tactic, a Trollelite that couldn´t be done better...

just count up the TFs that show up in the report - then at least double it and you have perhaps the number of TFs that are in two or three hexes...

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 08/17/42

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TF 4 encounters mine field at Akyab (30,29)

Japanese Ships
PG Eiko Maru

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TF 46 encounters mine field at Akyab (30,29)

Japanese Ships
MSW W.18

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TF 123 encounters mine field at Akyab (30,29)

Japanese Ships
ML Shirataka, Mine hits 1, on fire

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TF 129 encounters mine field at Akyab (30,29)

Japanese Ships
ML Nasami, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

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TF 169 encounters mine field at Akyab (30,29)

Japanese Ships
PC Takunan Maru #5

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TF 25 encounters mine field at Akyab (30,29)

Japanese Ships
MSW Fumi Maru #2, and is sunk
PG Uji

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TF 56 encounters mine field at Akyab (30,29)

Japanese Ships
PC Ch 1

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TF 97 encounters mine field at Akyab (30,29)

Japanese Ships
PC Ch 11

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TF 107 encounters mine field at Akyab (30,29)

Japanese Ships
PG Shosei Maru

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TF 109 encounters mine field at Akyab (30,29)

Japanese Ships
PG Eifuku Maru

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TF 150 encounters mine field at Akyab (30,29)

Japanese Ships
PG Nanpo Maru

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TF 163 encounters mine field at Akyab (30,29)

Japanese Ships
PC Ch 12, on fire, heavy damage

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TF 168 encounters mine field at Akyab (30,29)

Japanese Ships
MSW W.14
MSW W.12

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TF 172 encounters mine field at Akyab (30,29)

Japanese Ships
PC Ch 17

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Day Air attack on Dacca , at 31,24

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 22

No Japanese losses

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Day Air attack on Kai Island , at 39,78

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 6
Ki-21 Sally x 3
Ki-48 Lily x 9

No Japanese losses

Runway hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 6000 feet
2 x Ki-43-Ic Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
9 x Ki-48 Lily bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Ki-43-Ic Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 125th IJNAF Base Force, at 100,64


Allied aircraft
B-26B Marauder x 12


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
11 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x B-26B Marauder bombing at 20000 feet
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Day Air attack on Port Moresby Defense Brigade, at 54,92

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 29
A6M3 Zero x 6
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 5

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
23 x A6M2 Zero bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Akyab at 30,29

Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 25
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 84

Allied aircraft
B-26B Marauder x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 4 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
B-26B Marauder: 4 destroyed, 4 damaged

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Day Air attack on TF, near Akyab at 30,29

Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 25
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 84

Allied aircraft
Wellington III x 9

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3 Zero: 4 damaged
Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 3 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Wellington III: 9 destroyed

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Day Air attack on TF, near Akyab at 30,29

Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 19
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 84

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb x 22
P-40E Warhawk x 9
Hurricane IIc x 3
SB-2c x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3 Zero: 1 damaged
Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 3 destroyed, 8 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIb: 17 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 8 destroyed
Hurricane IIc: 3 destroyed
SB-2c: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged

Japanese Ships
AP Yoshinogawa Maru
AP Shoho Maru
PG Uji, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AP Oigawa Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire

Japanese ground losses:
23 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x SB-2c bombing at 6000 feet
1 x SB-2c bombing at 6000 feet
4 x SB-2c bombing at 6000 feet
4 x SB-2c bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Akyab at 30,29

Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 19
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 82

Allied aircraft
B-26B Marauder x 11

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-26B Marauder: 1 damaged

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Day Air attack on TF, near Akyab at 30,29

Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 19
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 82

Allied aircraft
Wellington III x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3 Zero: 3 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Wellington III: 2 destroyed

Japanese Ships
ML Shirataka, on fire

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 29,29

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 33

Allied aircraft
A-20B Boston x 26

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
A-20B Boston: 6 damaged

Japanese Ships
ML Kamome, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x A-20B Boston bombing at 6000 feet
2 x A-20B Boston bombing at 6000 feet
4 x A-20B Boston bombing at 6000 feet
4 x A-20B Boston bombing at 6000 feet
4 x A-20B Boston bombing at 6000 feet
4 x A-20B Boston bombing at 6000 feet
4 x A-20B Boston bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Akyab at 30,29

Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 19
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 36

Allied aircraft
Wellington III x 3
P-40E Warhawk x 3
Hurricane IIc x 2

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3 Zero: 2 damaged
Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Wellington III: 3 damaged
P-40E Warhawk: 2 destroyed
Hurricane IIc: 1 destroyed

Japanese Ships
BB Kongo

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Akyab at 30,29

Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 19
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 36

Allied aircraft
Wellington III x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3 Zero: 2 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Wellington III: 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
ML Sarushima

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 29,29

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 53

Allied aircraft
Wellington III x 5

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Wellington III: 2 damaged

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Day Air attack on TF, near Akyab at 30,29

Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 19
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 7

Allied aircraft
Wellington III x 15
P-40E Warhawk x 27
Hurricane IIc x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3 Zero: 3 damaged
Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 3 destroyed, 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Wellington III: 5 damaged
P-40E Warhawk: 5 destroyed, 17 damaged
Hurricane IIc: 3 destroyed

Japanese Ships
ML Kurokami, Bomb hits 6, on fire, heavy damage
ML Katoku, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
ML Kuroshima

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
1 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
4 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 29,28


Allied aircraft
IL-4c x 11


Allied aircraft losses
IL-4c: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
PG Saga, Bomb hits 11, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x IL-4c bombing at 6000 feet
4 x IL-4c bombing at 6000 feet
4 x IL-4c bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Akyab at 30,29

Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 21
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 64

Allied aircraft
Wellington III x 3

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Wellington III: 1 damaged

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Day Air attack on TF, near Akyab at 30,29

Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 21
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 64

Allied aircraft
B-26B Marauder x 11

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-26B Marauder: 2 damaged

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Day Air attack on TF, near Akyab at 30,29

Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 21
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 64

Allied aircraft
Wellington III x 4
P-40E Warhawk x 17

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 5 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Wellington III: 3 damaged
P-40E Warhawk: 14 destroyed

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Day Air attack on TF, near Akyab at 30,29

Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 21
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 64

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb x 33
P-40E Warhawk x 16
Hurricane IIc x 9
SB-2c x 4

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3 Zero: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 6 destroyed, 8 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIb: 13 destroyed, 7 damaged
P-40E Warhawk: 8 destroyed
Hurricane IIc: 2 destroyed, 5 damaged
SB-2c: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
AP Kasui Maru
AP Manila Maru
PC Ch 11

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x SB-2c bombing at 6000 feet
5 x Hurricane IIb bombing at 2000 feet
9 x Hurricane IIb bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Akyab at 30,29

Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 17
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 61

Allied aircraft
Wellington III x 3
P-40E Warhawk x 2

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3 Zero: 1 damaged
Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Wellington III: 1 damaged
P-40E Warhawk: 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
AP Meiyo Maru

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 29,29

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 41

Allied aircraft
Wellington III x 4

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AP Miyadono Maru

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Akyab at 30,29

Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 17
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 4

Allied aircraft
Martlet II x 27
Hurricane IIb x 22
Spitfire Vb x 6
Beaufort I x 6
P-40E Warhawk x 20

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3 Zero: 16 destroyed
Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 9 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Martlet II: 1 destroyed, 11 damaged
Hurricane IIb: 4 destroyed, 14 damaged
Spitfire Vb: 2 damaged
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed, 9 damaged

Japanese Ships
AK Hirota Maru
AK Daishu Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x Beaufort I launching torpedoes at 200 feet
4 x Beaufort I launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Akyab at 30,29

Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 11

Allied aircraft
Wellington III x 3

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AP Oridono Maru

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Akyab at 30,29

Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 11

Allied aircraft
Wellington III x 3

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
Wellington III: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
AP Satsuma Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire

Japanese ground losses:
24 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Akyab at 30,29

Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 11

Allied aircraft
B-26B Marauder x 4

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AP Tamaki Maru

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B-26B Marauder bombing at 6000 feet




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RE: The rant goes on... Pzjg Hortlund vs Castor Troy - 2/17/2008 7:31:00 PM   
castor troy


Posts: 14330
Joined: 8/23/2004
From: Austria
Status: offline 		Steve offered me a redo and started a thread on the main forum if it´s okay (in the game) to have two dozen TFs in a base hex with 100 fighters on Cap to lure in two dozen small strikes, some escorted others without escorts, all in all the engine goes nuts...

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RE: The rant goes on... Pzjg Hortlund vs Castor Troy - 2/18/2008 6:53:16 PM   
castor troy


Posts: 14330
Joined: 8/23/2004
From: Austria
Status: offline 		After having my blood pressure coming down a bit again, I accepted Steve´s offer to go two turns back - the turn BEFORE he splitted his 6 TFs in 28 sub TFs... we are now at the date 8/16/42 again...

the situation is as follows, this is what I wrote in my email:

That´s fair. As I´ve said before, there won´t be any surface TFs anyway due to the Betty danger. If there are bigger TFs I expect the airstrikes looking different though.

Problem is though, that I moved around aircraft the turn before the attacks on Akyab, I guess I´m allowed to do that – and hopefully I will get it done similar (all airbases were full, though it will be hard to have exactly the same bomber/fighter ratio). And what if this time my bombers from Calcutta attack, in the original turns they didn´t because your TFs were most likely too small to launch the bombers before you got to Akyab? As I´ve said, I don´t like it… best would be you would come back in one or two weeks and I won´t attack Akyab for the next 2 weeks??

I have stood down all my front line aircraft, which means the next turn will be different than the original one (regarding orders) and then I will set my bombers to naval attack as soon as you´ve entered Akyab. Only those from Calcutta will stay on naval attack. As my front line bases (Chandpur, Dacca and Imphal) didn´t launch in the original turns against your smaller TFs before you entered Akyab, I think you should have that one turn free before entering Akyab. In the original turns, all my aircraft were on nav attack as soon as I got the first sighting of an enemy ship. As my aircraft are all grounded at the front I don´t expect you to do a 200 bomber attack on one of my airfields this turn!

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RE: The rant goes on... Pzjg Hortlund vs Castor Troy - 2/18/2008 9:56:19 PM   
castor troy


Posts: 14330
Joined: 8/23/2004
From: Austria
Status: offline 		Lol, this combat report shows why I hate redoing turns... it´s now already a complete different situation everywhere and I will also play it out different...


AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 08/16/42

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ASW attack at 47,112

Japanese Ships
SS RO-65

Allied Ships
DD Balch
DD Lamson
DD Mahan
DD Benham
DD Russell
DD Anderson

sunk in the original turn... this time no damage...

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TF 25 encounters mine field at Akyab (30,29)

Japanese Ships
MSW W.14
MSW W.12

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Sub attack at 3,102

Japanese Ships
SS I-32

Allied Ships
TK Empire Emerald, Torpedo hits 1, on fire

didn´t happen in the original turn...

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Sub attack near Akyab at 30,29

Japanese Ships
MSW W.12, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
MSW W.14

Allied Ships
SS O20, hits 2

as this also didn´t happen...

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Day Air attack on Imphal , at 33,26

Japanese aircraft
D3A Val x 18
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 24
Ki-30 Ann x 7

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
D3A Val: 4 destroyed, 10 damaged
Ki-30 Ann: 2 destroyed, 3 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
SB-2c: 2 destroyed
Hurricane IIb: 2 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed


Allied ground losses:
20 casualties reported

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 10

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x Ki-30 Ann bombing at 2000 feet

this also didn´t happen in the original turn, so it was kind of dumb to stand down all my aircraft in India to allow the enemy TFs to move in to Akyab... well, Hortlund couldn´t know that I stand down all my aircraft when he ended his turn and as those (more of them follow) airfield attacks didn´t happen in the original turn I thought it was a good move from me to stand down my aircraft... thought wrong...

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Day Air attack on Chandpur , at 30,25

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 40
Ki-49 Helen x 44
Ki-15 Babs x 3

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-49 Helen: 1 destroyed, 23 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIb: 1 destroyed
Beaufort I: 1 destroyed

Runway hits 6

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 11000 feet

also Chandpur is now bombed... didn´t happen in the original turn...

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Day Air attack on Dacca , at 31,24

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 65
Ki-21 Sally x 24
Ki-49 Helen x 32
Ki-15 Babs x 2

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-21 Sally: 2 destroyed, 11 damaged
Ki-49 Helen: 3 destroyed, 23 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-40E Warhawk: 2 destroyed
Wellington III: 1 destroyed

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 4

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 11000 feet

and also Dacca wasn´t bombed in the original turn... so it seems the given orders are a bit away from the original orders... oh well, it´s completely different know, we ordered massive strikes for tomorrow now also... originally I spotted some 100 fighters at Mandalay, now only 12... originally I spotted 100 fighters at Akyab, now 200! Wonder how the cap will look like tomorrow...

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Day Air attack on Dacca , at 31,24

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 26

No Japanese losses

this did happen in the original turn...

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Day Air attack on Kai Island , at 39,78

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 80
Ki-21 Sally x 22
Ki-48 Lily x 27

No Japanese losses

Runway hits 27

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x Ki-43-Ic Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 125th IJNAF Base Force, at 100,64


Allied aircraft
B-26B Marauder x 52


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
13 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B-26B Marauder bombing at 20000 feet
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Day Air attack on Port Moresby Defense Brigade, at 54,92

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 32
A6M3 Zero x 4
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 4

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
23 x A6M2 Zero bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Akyab at 30,29

Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 43
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 58

Allied aircraft
B-26B Marauder x 39

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3 Zero: 9 damaged
Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 7 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
B-26B Marauder: 2 destroyed, 25 damaged

see! There´s only ONE TF at Akyab today (which consist of ONE MSW, the other one sunk) and I get nearly a full 48 plane bomber group to attack. When there were 28 TFs my BIG strikes were made up out of 12 bombers... all bombers turn back... 5 are shot down A2A...

all in all with the "surprise" airfield attacks we lose 20+ aircraft today...

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RE: The rant goes on... Pzjg Hortlund vs Castor Troy - 2/19/2008 10:08:03 AM   
castor troy


Posts: 14330
Joined: 8/23/2004
From: Austria
Status: offline 		As said yesterday, the "redo" is different and after Steve attacked my airfields yesterday and I spotted far more fighters at Akyab than in the original turn, I gave different orders also. Means this is no try to redo the turn with the same orders, this is something complete different now...

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 08/17/42

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TF 56 encounters mine field at Akyab (30,29)

Japanese Ships
ML Nasami, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

unfortunately, this is different also. In the original turn, we hit 3 MLs with mines, this was excellent...

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ASW attack near Akyab at 30,29

Allied Ships
SS O20

I wonder what those ghost ASW attacks are all the time...

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TF 129 encounters mine field at Akyab (30,29)

Japanese Ships
MSW W.18
PG Kamitsu Maru, Mine hits 1, on fire

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Sub attack near Akyab at 30,29

Japanese Ships
ML Nasami, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS Permit

sunk...

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TF 13 encounters mine field at Akyab (30,29)

Japanese Ships
ML Nasami, and is sunk
MSW Fumi Maru #2
PC Ch 12
PC Ch 11
PC Shonan Maru #2
PG Shosei Maru
PC Ch 6
DD Nowaki
AP Kaifuku Maru, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Japanese ground losses:
15 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

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TF 25 encounters mine field at Akyab (30,29)

Japanese Ships
MSW W.14

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TF 18 encounters mine field at Akyab (30,29)

Japanese Ships
PC Ch 3, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
PC Ch 1
PG Shinko Maru #1
PG Nanpo Maru

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Sub attack near Akyab at 30,29

Japanese Ships
AP Katori Maru, Shell hits 2

Allied Ships
SS Permit, hits 4

Japanese ground losses:
23 casualties reported

Permit fires 3 salvoes! 2 times the torps fail to detonate, 1 time the torps miss... what a performance of my subs at the moment...

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Day Air attack on Akyab , at 30,29

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 35
A6M3 Zero x 34
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 94

Allied aircraft
Martlet II x 30
Hurricane IIb x 47
Spitfire Vb x 16
P-40E Warhawk x 47

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged
A6M3 Zero: 1 destroyed, 3 damaged
Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 31 destroyed, 32 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Martlet II: 15 destroyed
Hurricane IIb: 37 destroyed
Spitfire Vb: 15 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 14 destroyed, 19 damaged

well, I´m glad that Hortlund attacked my airfields last turn and convinced me about giving different orders! The attempt to redo the original turn with the same orders failed obviously as instead of 109 fighters on Cap, this time there are 163!! on Cap... I spotted them due to my recon and the advantage of seeing the Japanase aircraft transfers. But what if I hadn´t spotted them and would have tried to give the same orders in the original turn? Oh well... I spotted them, wondered about, gave different orders...

Unfortunately Imphal was clouded and launched no aircraft the whole day. But the sweep from Chandpur goes in and we take horrendous losses, which we just can not afford. But we just have to attack! Even though the Hurricane pilots are my most exp. the fighter bombers are shot out of the sky at will. The most depressing is the performance of the Spitfires! I had high hopes for this squadron (it´s the best fighter squadron on the map with 76 exp... well it was). In the end we lose 15 Spits (including 14 pilots), they were able to take down 4 Oscars...

While we can deal with the Oscars, more or less, it seems impossible to hurt the Zeros. Zero kill rate must be somewhere around 5 or 6:1 against the best I can field. Probably the Oscar sentais already had a couple of their aces killed and are now operating with a good number of replacement pilots (60 exp), while still achieving a kill rate in their favour. But the Zeroes are doing as good in 8/42 as they did in 12/41.

We even were lucky as the first thing I saw when the airbattles started was "Wellington III fails to locate target", which means the bombers from Dacca (5 hexes!!) tried to go in BEFORE the sweep from Chandpur (4 hexes!!). This would have been a complete disaster... So sweeps are not always going in first, not even if the distance to fly for the fighters is shorter than the distance for the bombers.


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Day Air attack on Akyab , at 30,29

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 17
A6M3 Zero x 15
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 24

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb x 15
Wellington III x 101
P-40E Warhawk x 48
Hurricane IIc x 16

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 3 destroyed, 6 damaged
A6M3 Zero: 9 destroyed
Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 50 destroyed
Ki-15 Babs: 2 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIb: 7 destroyed, 1 damaged
Wellington III: 1 destroyed, 10 damaged
P-40E Warhawk: 9 destroyed, 30 damaged
Hurricane IIc: 1 destroyed, 11 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
105 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 23
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 118

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet

and then the bombers go in... we take advantage of the fact that flak fire over Akyab was light in the past and send in the bombers at low attack height. The Cap was already disrupted, a lot of Oscars were grounded due to the damage they took from our sweep. We were happy to see that the A2A didn´t last long and soon we saw our bombers going in to drop their loads on Akyab´s airfield where we destroy dozens of IJA fighters on the ground. Would this attack have failed, the whole day would have been a catastrophe. The airbase should have been 100% damaged all the time already, last turn the airfield was still reported 30% damaged. We achieve another 118 runway hits, the level 4 airfield should be near the unoperational status.

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Day Air attack on Akyab , at 30,29

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 15
A6M3 Zero x 14
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 13

Allied aircraft
Wellington III x 16
A-20B Boston x 31
B-26B Marauder x 32

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 3 damaged
A6M3 Zero: 5 destroyed, 4 damaged
Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 3 destroyed, 5 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Wellington III: 6 damaged
A-20B Boston: 6 damaged
B-26B Marauder: 1 destroyed, 6 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
41 casualties reported

Airbase hits 7
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 62

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x A-20B Boston bombing at 6000 feet

The we send the rest of our bombers in, coming from Calcutta. I even used Australian Bostons, we had to send everything we had. Only the Chinese bombers in India weren´t attacking today (and I didn´t use my torpedoe bombers for the airfield attack of course - they´re just to valuable).

I was surprised to still see fighters in the air. Most of the Zeroes seem to fly LRCAP but the Oscars are based at Akyab I think, so at this time the airfield wasn´t closed for launching Cap. But the fighters were completely out of position and disrupted from our attacks already and the bombers manage to avoid them mostly. They achieve a very good hit rate, there were 180 runway hits today. Don´t know how much the troops at Akyab can repair every day, but hopefully this has closed Akyab´s airfield tomorrow.




as you can see, we destroyed more aircraft than we lost today, but the A2A was in favour of the Japanese, which wasn´t really surprising. The performance of my Martlets (stripped a British CV in port) wasn´t as good as I thought, the Spitfires were totally disappointing, the Hurricanes performed as always - they sucked - and the Warhawks are the ones we rely on (they even achieved a kill rate in their favour).

We lost around 60 British pilots (a disaster when looking at a replacement rate of 30/month) and 25 USAAF pilots were lost also, which isn´t that severe. Though we replace those pilots of 60 exp with pilots of 50 exp - at least there are more of those 50 exp pilots we get as replacement than we have aircraft to put them in. What we already knew was obvious today, the Hurricanes can´t take on the Japanese fighters if the enemy really puts up high numbers. But there are just not enough USAAF squadrons in India. We are now thinking about sending two more USAAF fighter groups to India. They have to go by ship, so with the IJN CS, CVEs and subs keeping up their blocade on the map edge shipping lanes to India, we would be in danger to lose those aircraft. The fight in the Pacific can be fought by the Marines, Australian, Canadian and New Zealand fighters also, we don´t need USAAF fighters there. With 100-140 USAAF fighters more in India, we could rely on the British fighters/fighter bombers as a backup.

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Day Air attack on Kai Island , at 39,78

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 78
Ki-21 Sally x 22
Ki-48 Lily x 26

No Japanese losses

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 14

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x Ki-43-Ic Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 125th IJNAF Base Force, at 100,64


Allied aircraft
B-26B Marauder x 44


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
23 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-26B Marauder bombing at 20000 feet

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Day Air attack on Port Moresby Defense Brigade, at 54,92

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 27
A6M3 Zero x 5
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 5

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
22 x A6M2 Zero bombing at 2000 feet
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Sub attack at 29,29

Japanese Ships
AK Suez Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
PG Eiko Maru
PG Eifuku Maru
PG Chosa Maru
PG Uji
PG Saga

Allied Ships
SS O19

mine layer O19 heavily damaged a small AK. No casualties, must be a supply ship...

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ASW attack at 29,29

Allied Ships
SS O19

then, another ghost ASW attack...

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ASW attack at 29,29

Japanese Ships
ML Sokuten

Allied Ships
SS O19

a mine layer ship attacks a mine layer sub...

with the loss of nearly 150 fighters, the threat of the Japanese air defense was AT LEAST halfed. I doubt that there are more than 300 fighters in Burma and they suffer in numbers over Akyab when having to fly LRCAP. There are only a couple of dozen fighters spotted at Akyab, so the majority has to come in on LRCAP. So I think the IJN/IJA fighter numbers over Akyab will be somewhere around 50 tomorrow. Which would be only one third of today. This could open the way for our bombers on naval attack. Perhaps it wasn´t bad to have Imphal clouded today, so those squadrons there haven´t suffered. Imphal has 200 aircraft ready to go tomorrow. The depleted fighter bomber squadrons were taken back to fill up their losses, we flew in 60 Hurricanes for escort duty tomorrow. The Warhawks will also fly escort tomorrow.

Tomorrow´s strikes: from Chandpur (torp bombers with Hurricanes and Warhawks as escorts), from Dacca (Wellingtons with Hurricanes and Warhawks as escorts), from Calcutta (unescorted Wellingtons, IL-4c, Bostons and the two dozen remaining Marauders that have VERY low morale), from Imphal (Warhawks and Hurricanes on sweep, 48 SB2c with Hurricanes as escort). All bombers are set on nav attack tomorrow!

Not just the British pilot pool suffered today (down to 153!!) of course also the pools for HurricaneIIb and IIc are empty, as is the Spitfire pool! This, with not all losses replaced and I guess we lose some 30-40 Hurricanes more tomorrow.





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TF 4 encounters mine field at Akyab (30,29)

Japanese Ships
PG Eiko Maru
PG Eifuku Maru
PG Uji
AK Hitora Maru, Mine hits 1, on fire
PG Saga
PG Chosa Maru

my sub laid mines were worth bringing them there...

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TF 44 encounters mine field at Akyab (30,29)

Japanese Ships
PC Ch 17
PC Takunan Maru #5

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ASW attack at 48,112

Japanese Ships
SS RO-65

Allied Ships
DD Buchanan
DD Aaron Ward
DD Monssen
DD Grayson
DD Gwin
DD Meredith

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Day Air attack on Akyab , at 30,29

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 37
A6M3 Zero x 16
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 58

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb x 80
CW-22 Falcon x 1
P-40E Warhawk x 101
Hurricane IIc x 16

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 2 destroyed, 11 damaged
A6M3 Zero: 5 damaged
Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 44 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIb: 60 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 24 destroyed, 53 damaged
Hurricane IIc: 6 destroyed, 4 damaged

It´s more than frustrating to see 50 Zeroes taking down 50 or your most experienced fighters when they lose 2 of their own...

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Day Air attack on Kai Island , at 39,78

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 79
Ki-21 Sally x 22
Ki-48 Lily x 27

No Japanese losses

Runway hits 18

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Ki-43-Ic Oscar bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on 125th IJNAF Base Force, at 100,64


Allied aircraft
B-26B Marauder x 43


No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-26B Marauder bombing at 20000 feet
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Day Air attack on Port Moresby Defense Brigade, at 54,92

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 26
A6M3 Zero x 5
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 5

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
22 x A6M2 Zero bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Akyab at 30,29

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 36
A6M3 Zero x 16
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 32

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb x 2
Wellington III x 6
P-40E Warhawk x 2

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 damaged
Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 2 destroyed, 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIb: 2 damaged
Wellington III: 1 damaged
P-40E Warhawk: 1 destroyed

Japanese Ships
PG Eifuku Maru
PG Uji, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet

the sacrifice of my fighters/fighter bombers with my sweep to Akyab makes it possible for my bombers to get to their targets... don´t know though if it was worth the destruction of nearly all my British fighter bomber squadrons...

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Day Air attack on TF, near Akyab at 30,29

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 36
A6M3 Zero x 16
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 31

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb x 28
Beaufort I x 6

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged
A6M3 Zero: 2 destroyed
Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 10 destroyed, 3 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIb: 6 destroyed, 16 damaged
Beaufort I: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
CL Natori
AP Kyokusei Maru, Torpedo hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x Beaufort I launching torpedoes at 200 feet

we have around 60 torp bombers at Chandpur, those 6 are the only that take off... ALL my other bombers in this region took off. The Beaforts are the most exp bombers I have there - all are above 80 exp and morale is mostly at 99.

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Day Air attack on TF, near Akyab at 30,29

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 16
A6M3 Zero x 7
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 12

Allied aircraft
Wellington III x 26

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 2 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Wellington III: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
AP Eihuku Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire
CL Natori, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AP Kyokusei Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AP Kasui Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AP Miyadono Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AP Meiyo Maru
AP Tamatsu Maru

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet

CL Natori was hit by a 1000lb bomb. The high exp of my Wellingtons makes it possible that many 1000lb bombs are dropped and those bombs really do damage!

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Day Air attack on TF, near Akyab at 30,29

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 16
A6M3 Zero x 7
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 12

Allied aircraft
Wellington III x 6
A-20B Boston x 3
B-26B Marauder x 25
IL-4c x 13

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3 Zero: 2 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
B-26B Marauder: 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
CL Natori, Bomb hits 5, on fire, heavy damage
AP Satsuma Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AP Zenyo Maru, Bomb hits 4, on fire
AP Manila Maru
MSW Fumi Maru #2, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
AP Sanko Maru

Japanese ground losses:
87 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x IL-4c bombing at 6000 feet
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet

Natori is hit by another 1000lb bomb, several 500lb GP bombs and a 250kg AP bomb from the Chinese bombers... she suffers a mag explosion from the last bomb hit and after that my bombers failed to locate her. CL Natori sunk!

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Day Air attack on TF, near Akyab at 30,29

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 34
A6M3 Zero x 16
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 25

Allied aircraft
Wellington III x 3

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
MSW W.14

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Akyab at 30,29

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 34
A6M3 Zero x 16
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 25

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb x 14
Wellington III x 51
P-40E Warhawk x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed
A6M3 Zero: 1 destroyed, 2 damaged
Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 2 destroyed, 5 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIb: 2 destroyed, 10 damaged
Wellington III: 3 damaged
P-40E Warhawk: 2 destroyed, 12 damaged

Japanese Ships
AP Oigawa Maru, Bomb hits 8, on fire, heavy damage
AK Totai Maru, Bomb hits 8, on fire, heavy damage
AK Bichu Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AK Kennichi Maru, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
AK Takegawa Maru, Bomb hits 6, on fire, heavy damage
AK Tsukikawa Maru
AK Yuki Maru
PC Ch 17

Japanese ground losses:
108 casualties reported
Guns lost 5

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet

as you can see, another strike with a reasonable number of bombers. Can´t believe that Hortlund still thinks that I´m just a bit more lucky with my die rolls and it´s not a matter of the number of the TFs there. Again a couple of 1000lb bomb hits, I expect 4 ships to sink.


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Day Air attack on TF, near Akyab at 30,29

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 33
A6M3 Zero x 15
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 23

Allied aircraft
A-20B Boston x 10

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
A-20B Boston: 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
AP Katori Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire

Japanese ground losses:
32 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x A-20B Boston bombing at 6000 feet

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Day Air attack on TF, near Akyab at 30,29

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 33
A6M3 Zero x 15
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 23

Allied aircraft
A-20B Boston x 11

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 damaged
A6M3 Zero: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
A-20B Boston: 3 damaged

Japanese Ships
AK Hitora Maru, Bomb hits 6, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x A-20B Boston bombing at 6000 feet

this one´s dead also...

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Day Air attack on TF, near Akyab at 30,29

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 33
A6M3 Zero x 15
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 23

Allied aircraft
Wellington III x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 1 damaged


Japanese Ships
AK Suez Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 28,30


Allied aircraft
Wellington III x 3


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
ML Katoku, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet

the already damaged ML is sunk...

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Day Air attack on TF, near Akyab at 30,29

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 19
A6M3 Zero x 15
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 27

Allied aircraft
Hurricane IIb x 3
Wellington III x 72
P-40E Warhawk x 7

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 5 damaged
A6M3 Zero: 1 destroyed, 10 damaged
Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 1 destroyed, 7 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Hurricane IIb: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged
Wellington III: 37 damaged
P-40E Warhawk: 7 destroyed

Japanese Ships
AP Meiyo Maru, Bomb hits 1
AP Oridono Maru, Bomb hits 2
AP Kasui Maru, Bomb hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
AP Maya Maru, Bomb hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
AP Satsuma Maru, on fire
AP Eihuku Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire
AP Karachi Maru, Bomb hits 5, on fire, heavy damage
CL Natori, on fire, heavy damage
AP Meikai Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AP Keisho Maru
AP Seizan Maru, Bomb hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
DD Nowaki
AP Kaifuku Maru, Bomb hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
AP Tamatsu Maru

Japanese ground losses:
77 casualties reported
Guns lost 4

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet

another big strike, instead of 12 small strikes. The Japanese fighters once again have severe problems taking down the Allied bombers. I agree with Hortlund that this is a problem of the mod, though he seems not to agree with me that it´s also a problem that the Zeroes take down 50 of my most exp pilots in the best fighters I can field for a loss of 4 or 5 Zeroes. I´ve got the feeling he wants to see losses on my side like they would be in stock but he can accept the changes of the mod if those are in his favour.

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Day Air attack on TF, near Akyab at 30,29

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 9
A6M3 Zero x 7
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 10

Allied aircraft
Wellington III x 7
A-20B Boston x 7
B-26B Marauder x 6
IL-4c x 7

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 4 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Wellington III: 4 damaged
A-20B Boston: 3 damaged
B-26B Marauder: 1 damaged
IL-4c: 3 damaged

Japanese Ships
AP Kaifuku Maru, on fire, heavy damage
DD Nowaki
PC Ch 12
AP Miyadono Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x A-20B Boston bombing at 6000 feet

and that´s it! All in all, in the last two days we took severe losses within our fighter squadrons, the British pilot pool lost around 80-90 pilots, Hurricane pools are empty. P-40 pool is down to 20, losses in USAAF pilots are not as a problem like the losses of British pilots. We destroyed a lot of Japanese fighters also, but mostly IJA Oscars. The Zeroes with their pilots in the 80s are performing, comparable to 80 exp. Corsairs vs 70 exp Zeroes in stock. Unbelievable high kill rates which my forces just can´t sustain. I can´t afford losing 8-10 of my fighters for the loss of 1 Zero.

the last two turns saw us losing 241 aircraft vs. 220 Japanese aircraft lost! To be more precise, we lost:

115 Hurricane IIb
67 P-40 Warhawk
8 Hurricane IIc
8 Wellington III
15 Spitfire Vb
18 Marlet II
and a couple of other aircraft

the Japanese lost:

169 Oscar Ic (49 on the ground)
33 A6M-3 Zero (21 on the ground)
13 A6M-2 Zero
and 5 other aircraft





with the damage done to the enemy´s shipping this looks like it was a severe punch on the first looks. But as I´ve mentioned, the losses of British pilots are really severe and it will take one month to fill out and repair the squadrons and another 3 months to bring those 50 exp pilots back to 70 exp like those pilots that were lost in the last two days. With the numbers of ships (especially APs) I expect massive reinforcements of Akyab, for sure more AA. Our troops are already 70 miles away from Akyab and will enter the enemy base within a month. I´m not overcomitted here, so if he wants to defend this base, he will be able to do that, but he can NOT defend all other base with a couple of divisions then and a well planned massive invasion of one of the bases on Sumatra could cause him real problems. What we have to do is to bring more USAAF fighters to India. I could also bring in Marine fighter squadrons but I always found it strange to see Corsairs operating out of India. There are problems though. We have to send those USAAF fighters to India by ship through sub, CS, CVE infested waters on the map edge to India AND the P-40 replacement rate is 50, so it takes one and a half months to upgrade a 72 aircraft FG. This, if we take no losses to the existing squadrons, which won´t be possible.

What´s also interesting is a discussion Steve and I have at the moment as he thinks that Nikmod made the Japanese a piece of crap. I have the same mod going in my game against Swift and I can say from both sides, the Japanese are absolutely not a piece of crap in this mod. I even expect them to be stronger from 43 on compared to stock. As our battles so far showed, even 29 Betties, escorted by 50 Zeroes are able to score a couple of hits within your CV TFs, so the Uber cap is nearly solved. Of course this brings up the problems for the Japanese also, when the Japanese player sees nearly undestructable Allied bombers. But to overcompensate this, there is the Japanese super flak now, which can make 200 Allied bombers inoperational after one attack from an alt of 11-16.000 ft. Attacks from the standart attack alt in most other versions of WITP are only possible if there are no more than 1 or 2 IJA baseforces at a base.

One thing Steve mentioned was the Japanese aircraft industry, that was cut down. Yes, in the beginning you have far less aircraft in production than in stock. But it´s EASILY possible to ramp up production. You can ramp it up at will, there´s always enough supply lying around. It just takes a couple of months if you increase your output. I did that in my game against Swift and so I checked Hortlund´s output also. Guess what! I don´t know why he´s arguing about a crippled Japanese aircraft industry, he´s producing around 200 Oscars and 260 Zeroes at the moment!!! At this date, I didn´t even produce such numbers in stock - there´s no need for such a high production "capacity" anyway. In my game against Swift I ramped up production also, no question, but I´m not the one who´s saying that this isn´t possible.

So in fact, the losses my opponent took over Akyab are replaced easily, when we´re talking about the airframes. And I guess there are still more than 1000 pilots in the Japanese pool. This in a mod that completely crippled the Japanese!



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Natori (CL-8)
Imperial Japanese Navy Cruiser of World War Two


With three widely-spaced straight funnels and seven single turrets scattered around her deck, Natori looked, and was, out-of-date by World War Two. But she saw plenty of action, until a US submarine sank her in late 1944.

Natori was the fourth in the Nagara-class of light cruisers, which were intended for use as the flagship of a destroyer flotilla.

Natori was completed in 1922. Soon after commissioning, Natori was assigned to patrols off the China coast. From 1938, it was based in Taiwan, and helped cover the landings of Japanese troops in southern China.

On 26 November 1941, Natori became flagship of Rear Admiral Kenzaburo Hara's DesRon 5. At the time of the attack on Pearl Harbor, Natori was escorting six troop transports to northern Luzon. The landing force was attacked by three USAAF B-17s on 10 December 1941, which slightly damaged Natori and its escorting destroyer Harukaze with near misses.

Natori was later assigned to cover the invasion of the Dutch East Indies, and participated in the Battle of Sunda Strait in February 1942. Natori and other Japanese ships deployed around the landing areas. The USS Houston (CA-30) and the Australian light cruiser HMAS Perth attacked Japanese troop transports. At 2300, Natori and her destroyers arrived. Natori, with Hatsuyuki and Shirayuki, then opened fire and rapidly closed the range. At 2308, the Allied cruisers turned NE and Natori and her destroyers headed SE in three columns.

On 10 March 1942, Natori was assigned to CruDiv 16 with the light cruiser Nagara. After the occupation of Java, Natori participated in the Battle of Christmas Island.

In April, Natori was assigned to patrols of the Java Sea, which continued into June. After a refit back at Maizuru, Natori returned to the Java Sea and Timor Sea until December, with occasional calls at Mergui in Burma, Penang, Singapore and Davao.

In December 1942, Natori delivered a Special Naval Landing Force to Hollandia, New Guinea.

On 9 January 1943, southeast of Ambon, Natori was sighted by USS Tautog (SS-199). The Tautog fired two torpedoes which hit the Natori in the stern. It broke off and carried away her rudder. In the next few minutes, as Natori got underway at reduced speed, Tautog fired two more torpedoes, but they either missed or were duds and Natori escaped without further damage.

On 21 January 1943, while at Ambon, Natori was damaged by a near-miss from a B-24. The bomb opened plates and flooded a boiler room. Natori departed for repairs at Seletar Naval Base, Singapore. Repairs were not completed until 24 May 1943, but then Natori was sent back to Japan for further repairs and modernization.

At Maizuru, two large guns were removed as were her catapult and derrick, and more anti-aircraft guns were installed. This brought Natori's 25 mm AA suite to fourteen barrels. Better air-search radar was fitted and hydrophones were installed at her bow. Repairs and modernization were completed on 1 April 1944, and Natori was assigned as the flagship of the Central Pacific Fleet's DesRon 3.

In June 1944, Natori ferried Japanese Army troops to Mindanao and Palau. Natori remained at Davao in late June through August as a guard ship.

On 18 August 1944, 200 nautical miles east of Samar, Natori was spotted by USS Hardhead (SS-365). USS Hardhead identified the target as a battleship and closed for a surface attack. One Mark 23 Torpedo fired at 2,800 yards (2,600 m) hit the Natori portside in a boiler room. She stopped dead in the water and was hit starboard amidships with another from the second salvo. At 0704, Natori sank, taking 330 crewmen including Captain Kubota with her. The destroyers Uranami and Kiyoshimo rescued 194 survivors, and the USS Stingray (SS-186) recovered four more survivors in a rubber raft. On 12 September 1944, almost a month after her sinking, USS Marshall (DD-676) captured a lifeboat with another 44 survivors of the Natori aboard.

Natori was removed from the Navy List on 10 October 1944.





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RE: The rant goes on... Pzjg Hortlund vs Castor Troy - 2/20/2008 6:05:23 PM   
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Sub attack at 29,29

Japanese Ships
AP Kyokusei Maru, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
PG Uji, on fire, heavy damage
PC Shonan Maru #2

Allied Ships
SS O24, hits 3

now my subs come into play. Many IJN TFs are already moving back to Rangoon after unloading. Took them not as long as I thought at a level 1 port.

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TF 25 encounters mine field at Akyab (30,29)

Japanese Ships
MSW W.14

last MSW at Akyab, later sunk due to three bomb hits from level bombers on nav search...

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Sub attack at 29,30

Japanese Ships
AP Kasui Maru, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS KXII

another AP sunk...

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Sub attack at 28,31

Japanese Ships
AP Denmark Maru

Allied Ships
SS KVII

a chance, but the two torps from this small sub missed...

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Day Air attack on Imphal , at 33,26

Japanese aircraft
D3A Val x 2
Ki-21 Sally x 21
Ki-49 Helen x 18
Ki-15 Babs x 2

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
D3A Val: 1 destroyed
Ki-21 Sally: 2 destroyed, 17 damaged
Ki-49 Helen: 1 destroyed, 10 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
SB-2c: 3 destroyed
CW-22 Falcon: 2 destroyed


Allied ground losses:
46 casualties reported

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 22

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Ki-21 Sally bombing at 9000 feet

a combined effort of IJA and IJN tries to torch some of my fighters at Imphal. Luckily I pulled them out this turn...

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Day Air attack on Imphal , at 33,26

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 3
G4M1 Betty x 76

Allied aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
G4M1 Betty: 3 destroyed, 24 damaged

Allied aircraft losses


Allied ground losses:
14 casualties reported

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 15

Aircraft Attacking:
19 x G4M1 Betty bombing at 16000 feet

and there are the Betties from Rangoon! They attacked in the afternoon so they are most likely on nav attack / airfield attack. I would have liked them to go in lower to take down and damage more of them.

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Day Air attack on Kai Island , at 39,78

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 79
Ki-21 Sally x 20
Ki-48 Lily x 27
Ki-49 Helen x 12

No Japanese losses

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 31

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 6000 feet

Japanese pilot training programme...

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Day Air attack on 125th IJNAF Base Force, at 100,64


Allied aircraft
B-26B Marauder x 54


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
29 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-26B Marauder bombing at 20000 feet

Allied pilot training programme...

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Day Air attack on Port Moresby Defense Brigade, at 54,92

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 19
A6M3 Zero x 7
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 3

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x A6M2 Zero bombing at 2000 feet

Japanese pilot training programme...

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RE: The rant goes on... Pzjg Hortlund vs Castor Troy - 2/20/2008 6:14:39 PM   
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Sub attack at 29,29

Japanese Ships
AP Oridono Maru, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AP Tatsuwa Maru
AP Sanko Maru
PC Ch 6
PG Shosei Maru

Allied Ships
SS O20

mine layer sub sinks an AP, retiring already to Diamond Harbour to pick up a new mine load...

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Sub attack at 28,31

Japanese Ships
AP Meiyo Maru
PC Ch 6
PG Shosei Maru

Allied Ships
SS KXII

torps miss...
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Day Air attack on Kai Island , at 39,78

Japanese aircraft
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 79
Ki-21 Sally x 22
Ki-48 Lily x 27
Ki-49 Helen x 11

No Japanese losses

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 12

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Ki-49 Helen bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on 125th IJNAF Base Force, at 100,64


Allied aircraft
B-26B Marauder x 42


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
75 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x B-26B Marauder bombing at 20000 feet

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Day Air attack on No. 112 RAN Base Force, at 54,92

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 26
A6M3 Zero x 6
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 5

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
22 x A6M2 Zero bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Thursday Island at 49,90

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 7
A6M3 Zero x 26
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 3

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 79

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 3 damaged
A6M3 Zero: 12 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 26 damaged

Japanese Ships
CA Tone, Bomb hits 8, on fire
DD Kari
CL Kitakami, Bomb hits 13, on fire, heavy damage
DD Kamo, Bomb hits 1, on fire

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet

after two weeks of not launching (they were set to nav attack all the time), today the B-17 launched for a devastating strike again. The fighters were absolutely unable to inflict real damage - once again. Hortlund asked for a house rule about min alt for 4Es and I had that already in mind. My answer to his request:

As soon as I get my B-24s I will have a min alt for all 4Es on nav attack of 10.000 which means starting in 10/42. If that´s okay for you. Like I said, at the moment I have those B-17s that you see at Thursday Island with reduced bomb load but a very very high exp after 9 months of war. And that´s it, no more 4Es on the whole map. They are a pain in the ass for you there but I don´t get why you park your cruisers for two weeks there, just waiting to get bombed. If I put my cruisers for two weeks 8 hexes away from 90 Betties would you feel for me? And 40 Allied fighters wouldn´t stop 90 Betties either (all Betties with the looong discussed torpedo availability). Kitakami sunk but your heavy cruiser was 500lb bomb prove anyway (which he shouldn’t be). Those bombers had two weeks such a low morale (and most of them were damaged) that they never launched, today was their first attack again, even though they were set to nav attack all the time, so IMO you had plenty of time to place your ships elsewhere, no?

But it´s the old story, you should have shot down more bombers, not a single one was lost A2A. Don´t want to see the numbers of stock, but surely a number around 10 would have been better. Hopefully this will change when you get your next generation fighters.


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Day Air attack on TF, near Thursday Island at 49,90

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 9
A6M3 Zero x 28
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 3

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 13

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 damaged
A6M3 Zero: 8 damaged
Ki-44-IIb Tojo: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 11 damaged

Japanese Ships
AK Nissyu Maru
AK Ryoka Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
MSW Mejima Maru, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
AK Tatuno Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet

all my B-17s launched today with frustrating results for my opponent.

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Day Air attack on TF, near Thursday Island at 49,90

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 9
A6M3 Zero x 28
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 3

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 26

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M3 Zero: 7 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 16 damaged

Japanese Ships
CA Tone, Bomb hits 1, on fire
CL Kitakami, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet

while Kitakami was hit by a couple of 1000lb bombs and sunk in the morning already, Tone came away as the heavy cruiser was hit by 500lb bombs, which only stripped of one turret of the main armament and a couple of 25mm guns. We spotted an AP/AK TF 8 hexes East of Darwin and my 200 B-25 there took off but all failed to locate the TF. This TF is surely going to Thursday Island also. I will fly my 200 B-25 to Cooktown to replace my B-17 there and then I will try to launch a massive 2E bomber attack against this incoming convoy.


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Day Air attack on TF at 56,95

Japanese aircraft
A6M3 Zero x 15
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 12

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 12

No Japanese losses

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
AK Onoe Maru
MSW Tama Maru #3, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
AK Kasii Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 6000 feet

an empty convoy retiring from Port Moresby was attacked 1 hex off Gili Gili. The MSW is sunk, the big AK will probably make it. Every ship sunk will hurt my opponent sooner than later!

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RE: The rant goes on... Pzjg Hortlund vs Castor Troy - 2/20/2008 7:31:52 PM   
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Akyab at 30,29

Japanese Ships
DD Nowaki, Shell hits 11, on fire, heavy damage
PG Saga
PG Chosa Maru
PC Ch 11, Shell hits 4, and is sunk
PC Ch 12, Shell hits 3

Allied Ships
CL Newcastle
DD Isaac Sweers

We sent in a some surface forces to force the Japanese out of the hex and then attack them with our bombers when they are not under the Cap umbrella of Akyab. Well, they were forced out of the hex, but they entered it again in the day movement phase! Nowaki is dead after being hit by a bomb from a search plane during the day. Our raider Tf wasn´t spotted and retired to Chandpur under a Cap umbrella of around 100 Allied fighters.

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Akyab at 30,29

Japanese Ships
PG Eifuku Maru
PG Eiko Maru
AK Yubari Maru, Shell hits 11, and is sunk
AK Shogen Maru, Shell hits 8, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
AK Kazan Maru
AK Daishu Maru

Allied Ships
CA Devonshire, Shell hits 1
DD Van Galen

This was the second TF we had to attack the shipping at Akyab. At the end, we sink a DD, a PC and two small AKs.

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TF 4 encounters mine field at Akyab (30,29)

Japanese Ships
PG Eifuku Maru
PG Eiko Maru

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ASW attack at 29,27

Japanese Ships
SS I-168

Allied Ships
DD Van Galen

CA Devonshire and DD Van Galen on the way back to Chandpur...

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Day Air attack on 125th IJNAF Base Force, at 100,64


Allied aircraft
B-26B Marauder x 33


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
23 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-26B Marauder bombing at 20000 feet

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Day Air attack on Port Moresby Defense Brigade, at 54,92

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 21
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 3

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x A6M2 Zero bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Port Moresby Defense Brigade, at 54,92

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 20

No Japanese losses

Aircraft Attacking:
20 x A6M2 Zero bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 27,31


Allied aircraft
Wellington III x 19


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AP Satsuma Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AP Eihuku Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AP Seizan Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AP Zenyo Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet

too my surprise, first half a dozen messages about Wellington fails to locate target but then my bombers from Dacca attack retiring convoys a couple of hexes West of Akyab. No attack flown against Akyab, so this was excellent!

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Day Air attack on TF at 27,31


Allied aircraft
Wellington III x 24


Allied aircraft losses
Wellington III: 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
AP Satsuma Maru, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
AP Meikai Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AP Seizan Maru, on fire, heavy damage
AP Miyadono Maru, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Wellington III bombing at 6000 feet

last attack and again I´m happy with the damage done. Some ships sank right after this attack. We lost one bomber today. Hortlund will feel happy with his ship losses and once again I´m happy with the ships lost too!

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RE: The rant goes on... Pzjg Hortlund vs Castor Troy - 2/20/2008 8:29:51 PM   
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As regards your B-17s having success. There was a reason fleets didn't base within LBA range.

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RE: The rant goes on... Pzjg Hortlund vs Castor Troy - 2/20/2008 9:15:22 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: anarchyintheuk

Was thinking the Spitfires would be a little better, guess not. The Hurricanes are pretty much a death trap.

As regards your B-17s having success. There was a reason fleets didn't base within LBA range.



my B-17s are deadly to everything that isn´t armored. Most of them are now 80+. In Nikmod they only carry 6 bombs, same bomb load as a B-25. Their biggest advantage is that they are so tough and still I have lost more than I get as replacement (while I think I don´t use them too much) and the 116 aircraft I would need to fill out both BG is something I have yet to reach. I think Hortlund is frustrated about them because he can´t stop them but they are for sure not as deadly as his Betties are and while he has 500 of them, I don´t even have 120 4Es... I don´t get why he stays so long with his cruisers at Thursday. If he wants to guard a convoy, okay, but then move in, unload, move out - this doesn´t take two weeks. Something to also point out is the fact that I don´t use the LB-30 at all! I think they were mostly used as transports so I don´t use the 50+ I have in the pool, but Steve seems pretty much pissed off anyway.

if he wants I will put them at 10.000 ft nav attack from tomorrow on...

The Spitfires were really disappointing, as said, those were my best fighter pilots on the map. Pretty much everything (except the Wellington III) the British can put into the air isn´t worth a lot. With Zeroes, Hitler would have conquered Britain!

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