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RE: The rant goes on... Pzjg Hortlund vs Castor Troy - 5/11/2008 5:41:42 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Feinder

Hey CT,

Just kind of skimming your AAR. To a degree, I feel your pain on bombing vs. a heavily defended base (for months on end). I lose about 40 planes per turn across the map, just in "routine" base suppression" runs. But I accept the mechanics for what they are. Bilbow has been frustrated by the pace of operations, and I'm frustrated by the speed in which things can be repaired. Six in one hand, a half dozen in the other.

That being said, I've found that, esp given the already reduced bomb-loads of planes in CHS (looks like what you're playing), it's often not worth the bother to attack at extended range with Medium bombers, particularly if it's CAP'd. Your heavy bombers can usually fair ok when returning from extended range because of their durability. But in the case of my B-25s which only carry 4x 500# regulary, and 2x 500# at extended range, I ask the question, if it's really that important to drop (only) a pair of 500# bombs on that base 7 hexes away.

But this is where it's actually useful to find the right plane for the job. If you've got a target that is 8 hexes away, can either use
B-25 w/ 2x 500# bombs at extented range or
A-29 w/ 4x 250# bombs at normal range

There's really no difference between the two. But it really makes a difference to whack a target with twice the bombload, so if you actually have the option, you might as well use A-29s to hit the more distant base, and keep the B-25s reigned in to normal range.

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Hi Feinder,

thanks for your comments. Itīs Nikmod, not CHS. But reading your description of CHS, Nikmod seems not to be much different when it comes down to aircraft losses. Allied bombers have a reduced bomb load, they are nearly like Japanese medium bombers now, though they are more durable (which doesnīt help against the super flak though and they die like flies, even when flying at their max altitude). The Boston and Havoc in Nikmod only have a range of 6 while carrying 4 bombs on normal range (4) so the B-25 is better regarding range (8) and bomb load (6) but I canīt use the Mitchells against bases as I donīt accept losing more than a dozen every turn for nearly no result.

Base suppresion seems to not really work in Nikmod nor in CHS for the Allies. At least it seems not to be worth it. Whatīs really frustrating is the fact that even months of bombing with thousands of bombing missions show NO effect at all - as you can see against the (in Hortlundīs terms minimum) garrisson of Kiska.

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RE: The rant goes on... Pzjg Hortlund vs Castor Troy - 5/11/2008 5:46:03 PM   
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Sub attack at 38,57

Japanese Ships
AK Seiki Maru, Torpedo hits 1
PG Nishho Maru
PG Myoken Maru
PG Keiko Maru
PG Kamitsu Maru
PG Eifuku Maru

Allied Ships
SS Silversides

Japanese ground losses:
24 casualties reported

troop loaden big AK is hit East of Borneo. If brought to the next level 3+ port, the AK will probably make it...

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ASW attack at 34,51

Japanese Ships
TK Kyokuyo Maru
MSW Togo Maru

Allied Ships
SS Halibut

the single escort won this time. Will try to shadow the empty TK convoy. Perhaps we get a shot at the high value target. Iīm more and more running out of subs in operational state as most of my subs have to return now and the ones in port are mostly not ready to go on operation.

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Sub attack at 45,45

Japanese Ships
APD APD-35
DD Namikaze
CL Nagara

Allied Ships
SS Albacore

6 torps missed...

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Day Air attack on Gili Gili , at 56,94


Allied aircraft
Liberator VI x 36
F-5A Lightning x 3


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
12 casualties reported

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x Liberator VI bombing at 26000 feet

hmmm
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Day Air attack on Gili Gili , at 56,94

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 139

Japanese aircraft losses
E7K2 Alf: 1 destroyed
J1N1-R Irving: 1 destroyed


Japanese ground losses:
38 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Airbase hits 12
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 19

Aircraft Attacking:
48 x B-24D Liberator bombing at 26000 feet

the Liberators came from Cairns, means extended range. I have to transfer them to Cooktown to fly against Gili Gili as this would mean normal range and twice the bomb load...

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Day Air attack on Kiska Island , at 92,35


Allied aircraft
F4F-3 Wildcat x 23
SBD Dauntless x 4
TBF Avenger x 2
P-39D Airacobra x 2
PV-1 Ventura x 13


Allied aircraft losses
SBD Dauntless: 4 damaged
P-39D Airacobra: 1 damaged
PV-1 Ventura: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
47 casualties reported

Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 7

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet

3 SBDs shot down by flak today. 14 aircraft lost on the map...

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RE: The rant goes on... Pzjg Hortlund vs Castor Troy - 5/11/2008 6:20:44 PM   
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ASW attack at 45,45

Japanese Ships
PC Ch 21
PC Ch 20
PC Ch 19
PG Tamo Maru #7
PG Takunan Maru #8

Allied Ships
SS Haddock

Hortlund has sent out an ASW force. My subs South of Hong Kong are in a state that makes it necessary to return home anyway, so all 4 are set to retire to Darwin.

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ASW attack at 50,108

Japanese Ships
SS I-172

Allied Ships
APD Dent
APD Stringham
APD McKean
APD Little
APD Colhoun
APD Manley

off Australiaīs East coast we fail once again to do any damage...

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Sub attack at 26,64

Japanese Ships
AP Awa Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
PG Eiko Maru
DD Uzuki

Allied Ships
SS Tunny

Japanese ground losses:
2 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Tunny fired her last salvo of torps and heavily damaged a big troop loaden AP off the West coast of Borneo...

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Day Air attack on Kiska Island , at 92,35


Allied aircraft
F4F-3 Wildcat x 39
SBD Dauntless x 39
TBF Avenger x 14
P-39D Airacobra x 27
PV-1 Ventura x 31


Allied aircraft losses
SBD Dauntless: 10 damaged
TBF Avenger: 1 damaged
P-39D Airacobra: 2 destroyed, 7 damaged
PV-1 Ventura: 7 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
51 casualties reported
Guns lost 4

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 30
Port hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet

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ASW attack at 44,45

Japanese Ships
PC Ch 21
PC Ch 20
PC Ch 19
PG Tamo Maru #7
PG Takunan Maru #8

Allied Ships
SS Albacore

Albacore is also attacked by the ASW force that attacked Haddock already but the Patrols fail to locate the sub in deep water...

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RE: The rant goes on... Pzjg Hortlund vs Castor Troy - 5/11/2008 8:54:39 PM   
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TF 78 encounters mine field at Kendari (33,71)

Japanese Ships
ML Hirashima, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

sub laid VH2 hits a ML! These mines were laid yesterday... hopefully the bugger sinks, I guess the chances will be good!

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ASW attack near Truk at 63,78

Japanese Ships
MSW Eguchi Maru
MSW Choun Maru #7

Allied Ships
SS Cisco

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ASW attack at 49,103

Japanese Ships
SS I-164, hits 12, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
DD Caldwell
DD Bancroft
DD Welles
DD Waller
DD Saufley
DD Cony

this time we engage the sub and drop over 100 DCs and the sub sinks immediately after receiving 2 direct hits and a lot of near misses. Two DDs completely used up their ammo. I will concentrate some more on attacking those subs off Australiaīs East coast but always having the risk of some IJN carriers popping up in the area after doing a full speed run.

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Sub attack at 40,63

Japanese Ships
AK Yamabuki Maru
PG Nishho Maru
PG Myoken Maru
PG Keiko Maru
PG Kamitsu Maru

Allied Ships
SS Triton

torps missed...
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Sub attack at 59,51

Japanese Ships
AK Shiranesan Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
AK Sanju Maru
DD Arashio
DD Makinami
DD Akigumo

Allied Ships
SS Shad

Shad hits a big AK West of Iwo Jima with her last salvo of torps. Very good performance of this sub...

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Day Air attack on Lautem , at 33,78


Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 95


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
79 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 9
Airbase supply hits 6
Runway hits 42

Aircraft Attacking:
27 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 26000 feet

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Day Air attack on Thursday Island , at 49,90


Allied aircraft
Liberator VI x 54
Hudson I x 4


No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x Liberator VI bombing at 26000 feet

what about that hit rate?

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Day Air attack on TF, near Baker Island at 94,92


Allied aircraft
PV-1 Ventura x 6
PB4Y Liberator x 4


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
PG Ikunta Maru, Bomb hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
PG Daido Maru

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x PB4Y Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
2 x PV-1 Ventura bombing at 6000 feet

moved some navy anti shipping sqadrons to Canton and a small strike sinks a PG at Baker...

< Message edited by castor troy -- 5/11/2008 8:55:50 PM >

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RE: The rant goes on... Pzjg Hortlund vs Castor Troy - 5/11/2008 10:41:55 PM   
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situation looks a bit like "A Flak too far" case study but still very interesting aar to read.

quote:

Day Air attack on Koepang , at 28,77

Allied aircraft
B-25J Mitchell x 11

Allied aircraft losses
B-25J Mitchell: 4 destroyed, 3 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
13 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 9

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 1000 feet

okay, the test on low level attack showed clearly that this is not the way to go. In the end 7 Mitchells were lost to flak. 7 out of 11...

Maybe it is too early to jump to the conclusion just yet. From what I understand the flak min ceiling is applied only for heaviest AA/DP devices, where "heaviest" is defined by WiTP engine as having a ceiling above 25000 fts. Only for such devices aircrafts flying below 25% of max ceiling are immune to their fire. I don't know the data for Nikmod but for stock it means that only japan 105 AA guns are useless for low flying targets (<9k fts). Otoh the lowest possible altitude is not the way to fly either 'cause effect of light/medium AA guns is of course greatest here...
Anyway usefulness of this tactic would depend on first the changes made in NikMod' device data and then on composition of AA units/devices in each and every particular base. Many Heavy AA Regiments in the base may make it worth one more try at least...

BTW aircrafts flying below 2000 fts are fired at not only by AA/DP devices but by 10-20% of all other squads/teams in base hex (I guess it is to represent hasty fire from small arms of ground troops?). Dunno if it had any influence in case quoted above beacuse to have any effect large numbers seem to be neccessary. Still probably one more reason to not fly so low.
Regards.

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RE: The rant goes on... Pzjg Hortlund vs Castor Troy - 5/11/2008 11:17:27 PM   
castor troy


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ORIGINAL: Uamaga

Hi,
situation looks a bit like "A Flak too far" case study but still very interesting aar to read.

quote:

Day Air attack on Koepang , at 28,77

Allied aircraft
B-25J Mitchell x 11

Allied aircraft losses
B-25J Mitchell: 4 destroyed, 3 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
13 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 1
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 9

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x B-25J Mitchell bombing at 1000 feet

okay, the test on low level attack showed clearly that this is not the way to go. In the end 7 Mitchells were lost to flak. 7 out of 11...

Maybe it is too early to jump to the conclusion just yet. From what I understand the flak min ceiling is applied only for heaviest AA/DP devices, where "heaviest" is defined by WiTP engine as having a ceiling above 25000 fts. Only for such devices aircrafts flying below 25% of max ceiling are immune to their fire. I don't know the data for Nikmod but for stock it means that only japan 105 AA guns are useless for low flying targets (<9k fts). Otoh the lowest possible altitude is not the way to fly either 'cause effect of light/medium AA guns is of course greatest here...
Anyway usefulness of this tactic would depend on first the changes made in NikMod' device data and then on composition of AA units/devices in each and every particular base. Many Heavy AA Regiments in the base may make it worth one more try at least...

BTW aircrafts flying below 2000 fts are fired at not only by AA/DP devices but by 10-20% of all other squads/teams in base hex (I guess it is to represent hasty fire from small arms of ground troops?). Dunno if it had any influence in case quoted above beacuse to have any effect large numbers seem to be neccessary. Still probably one more reason to not fly so low.
Regards.




good analyzis! In any case, there wonīt be anymore low level base attacks. Mostly we will now attack above the max flak ceiling.

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RE: The rant goes on... Pzjg Hortlund vs Castor Troy - 5/12/2008 2:13:07 AM   
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ORIGINAL: castor troy
yeah, itīs a pity that itīs always an all or nothing thing in WITP. Those bombs bounce off and do no damage - well they do 2 or 3 sys points perhaps. There should be a routine for non penetrating bomb hits as Iīm sure a BBīs captain would not be happy about 3 or 4 1000lb bombs exploding on his deck or next to the belt armor as this would cause serious damage. We have to live with how itīs modelled, but isnīt that changed in AE?

But this seems to be historically accurate - british needed to use 12000lb bombs to finish BB Tirpitz. Those big babies are not in the game however.
Smaller ones can only destroy some minor guns or radar installations, and kill crew - but can't penetrate main armor.

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RE: The rant goes on... Pzjg Hortlund vs Castor Troy - 5/12/2008 1:24:36 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Sayar

quote:

ORIGINAL: castor troy
yeah, itīs a pity that itīs always an all or nothing thing in WITP. Those bombs bounce off and do no damage - well they do 2 or 3 sys points perhaps. There should be a routine for non penetrating bomb hits as Iīm sure a BBīs captain would not be happy about 3 or 4 1000lb bombs exploding on his deck or next to the belt armor as this would cause serious damage. We have to live with how itīs modelled, but isnīt that changed in AE?

But this seems to be historically accurate - british needed to use 12000lb bombs to finish BB Tirpitz. Those big babies are not in the game however.
Smaller ones can only destroy some minor guns or radar installations, and kill crew - but can't penetrate main armor.



Iīm not talking about sinking them but a 2000lb bomb exploding on the deck or near the belt armor would cause more than 2 points of sys damage in real life. I would guess that a BB that would be hit by 3 or 4 of those bombs would not be in a state to leave port after the attack. In WITP those BBs leave port with 6 sys dam and shoot up your convoys the night after. Itīs not necessary to sink a ship, it would be enough to make it inoperational. In WITP this isnīt possible with bombs that donīt penetrate the armor - only if you achieve 50x2000lb bomb hits.

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RE: The rant goes on... Pzjg Hortlund vs Castor Troy - 5/12/2008 5:55:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		I think it'd depend on where the hit was. A 2000 pound HE bomb on, say, a turret roof isn't necessarily going to do much damage. Didn't Maryland take a kamikazi straight into a turret roof and not even lose the turret? I seem to recall the armor got dished, but the turret was still functional.


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RE: The rant goes on... Pzjg Hortlund vs Castor Troy - 5/13/2008 5:59:29 PM   
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ORIGINAL: pat.casey

I think it'd depend on where the hit was. A 2000 pound HE bomb on, say, a turret roof isn't necessarily going to do much damage. Didn't Maryland take a kamikazi straight into a turret roof and not even lose the turret? I seem to recall the armor got dished, but the turret was still functional.





A hit on or besides a turret can also result in the turret being jammed requiring a month of repair time.

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RE: The rant goes on... Pzjg Hortlund vs Castor Troy - 5/13/2008 6:02:24 PM   
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Sub attack at 60,49

Japanese Ships
AK Oita Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Arashio
DD Makinami
DD Akigumo

Allied Ships
SS Pompon

big AK is hit 15 hexes South of Japan... wonder why this AK TF gets 3 DDs as escorts, perhaps itīs a ressource convoy as it is coming from the SRA and is heading to Japan.

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Sub attack at 60,49

Japanese Ships
AK Shiranesan Maru, on fire

Allied Ships
SS Pompon

big AK that was hit yesterday and which was part of the convoy that was attacked by Pompon an hour earlier. Torps failed to detonate though...

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TF 20 encounters mine field at Truk (63,78)

Japanese Ships
MSW Chitose Maru
MSW Choyo Maru #2

no sense in further laying mines at Truk as there are now MSW on station all the time...

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Day Air attack on Gili Gili , at 56,94

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-24D Liberator x 137

Japanese aircraft losses
J1N1-R Irving: 1 destroyed
E7K2 Alf: 1 destroyed


Japanese ground losses:
18 casualties reported

Airbase hits 8
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 33

Aircraft Attacking:
48 x B-24D Liberator bombing at 26000 feet

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Day Air attack on Kiska Island , at 92,35


Allied aircraft
F4F-3 Wildcat x 39
SBD Dauntless x 46
TBF Avenger x 16
P-39D Airacobra x 20
PV-1 Ventura x 31


Allied aircraft losses
SBD Dauntless: 9 damaged
TBF Avenger: 1 damaged
P-39D Airacobra: 3 damaged
PV-1 Ventura: 3 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
177 casualties reported
Guns lost 10

Airbase hits 4
Runway hits 24
Port hits 2
Port supply hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
11 x P-39D Airacobra bombing at 2000 feet


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RE: The rant goes on... Pzjg Hortlund vs Castor Troy - 5/13/2008 6:08:50 PM   
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Night Air attack on Rangoon , at 29,34


Allied aircraft
Beaufighter VIF x 17


No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x Beaufighter VIF bombing at 2000 feet

want to train up my Night fighters to use them as long range escort for day attacks. Was shocked to see they attack at 2000 ft, something I usually know but once again forgot. Strange enough there was no flak fire. Didnīt expect hits on the airfield either.

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Naval bombardment of Andaman Island, at 23,34

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIb Tojo: 5 destroyed
E13A1 Jake: 2 destroyed
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed
B5N Kate: 2 destroyed

Allied Ships
CL Newcastle
CL Glasgow
CL Hobart
CL Achilles
CA Exeter
CA Devonshire
CA Dorsetshire

Japanese ground losses:
545 casualties reported
Guns lost 15

Airbase hits 21
Airbase supply hits 22
Runway hits 166

what we never managed to achieve at Akyab, we achieve with our first bombardment at Andaman. Perhaps we can keep this airfield closed now. We have 96 LB-30 (because instead of B-24, my BG arrive with LB-30 ) and 48 IL-4c ready to fly airattacks every couple of days.

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Day Air attack on Koepang , at 28,77


Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 84


No Allied losses

Runway hits 4

Aircraft Attacking:
20 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 26000 feet

very bad hit rate...

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Day Air attack on Lautem , at 33,78


Allied aircraft
A-20G Havoc x 68


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
45 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 20

Aircraft Attacking:
18 x A-20G Havoc bombing at 25800 feet

but it seems to work to use Havocs on high level attacks. Coupled with 100 Bostons we could keep an airfield closed without having to fear enemy flak. Downside is the low range of 6 though...

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Day Air attack on Kiska Island , at 92,35


Allied aircraft
F4F-3 Wildcat x 20
SBD Dauntless x 41
TBF Avenger x 16
P-39D Airacobra x 18
PV-1 Ventura x 30


Allied aircraft losses
SBD Dauntless: 3 damaged
P-39D Airacobra: 4 damaged
PV-1 Ventura: 1 destroyed, 5 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
21 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 20
Port hits 1
Port supply hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet

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ASW attack at 18,31

Japanese Ships
SS I-7

Allied Ships
DD O'Brien
DD Russell
DD Mustin
DD Lardner
DD Buchanan
DD Aaron Ward
DD Fletcher
CL Hobart

I-7 has been parked in this hex for weeks already. Itīs in a very good position (by accident or deliberately) because this is the hex where my bombardment TFs always end up after attacking Andaman.

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RE: The rant goes on... Pzjg Hortlund vs Castor Troy - 5/13/2008 6:25:21 PM   
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Night Air attack on Lashio , at 35,30


Allied aircraft
Beaufighter VIF x 17


No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x Beaufighter VIF bombing at 2000 feet
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Koepang at 28,77

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Japanese aircraft losses
E7K2 Alf: 1 destroyed

Japanese Ships
ML Tsugaru, Shell hits 19, and is sunk
ML Okinoshima, Shell hits 1, on fire
ML Ikitsushima
PG Chokai Maru, Shell hits 11, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk
ML Katsuriki
ML Yaeyama, Shell hits 1, on fire
ML Kamome, Shell hits 11, and is sunk
ML Shirakami, Shell hits 11, and is sunk
ML Naryu, Shell hits 5, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
ML Kyosai, Shell hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
ML Ishizaki
ML Takashima
ML Saishu
ML Aotaka, Shell hits 9, and is sunk
ML Wakatake

Allied Ships
BB Arizona
BB Idaho, Shell hits 1
CA Shropshire
DD Monssen
DD Benham
DD Ellet
DD Dunlap
DD Conyngham
DD Balch
DD Clark

Today we won the Jackpot! By pure luck (YES IT ONLY WAS LUCK ON OUR SIDE!!! ) a bombardment TF entered the hex the same night as the Japanese ML TF which was hit hard! We sank several of the big MLs including ML Tsugaru which has a mine capacity of no less than 600 mines! 21 enemy MLs have been confirmed sunk so far, not bad, speaking of mine laying capacity, the enemy has lost over 50% of his capacity already. The TF wasnīt spotted during the day, this could have triggered airattacks by over 100 bombers.

I wonīt complain! Another example of how careless Hortlund is with his ships: ML Hirashima which hit a VH2 at Kendari a couple of days ago was reported sunk today! It sank OFF AMBOINA! So what? The ML hits a mine at Kendari, where it could be disbanded in port immediately and then it sinks off Amboina. Well, I even care about MSW, small AKs, in fact I care about every ship in my arsenal that can be saved (and Iīm the Allied with ten times more ships than the IJN). Heck, I even try to save ships that obviously canīt be saved. Hortlund is of other oppinion! It seems not worth for him to bring damaged ships to the next port where they can be disbanded. I guess this did cost him at least 100 ships of all different types so far.





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Naval bombardment of Koepang, at 28,77

Allied Ships
CA Shropshire
BB Idaho
BB Arizona

Japanese ground losses:
88 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

No biggy that the bombardment didnīt do much damage afterwards.

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Sub attack at 37,61

Japanese Ships
TK Ayazono Maru
PC Ch 10
PG Hayakafuku Maru
MSW W.17
MSW Wa 7
MSW Wa 5

Allied Ships
SS Albacore

torps hit the big TK but failed to detonate... Albacore is on her way to here homeport (Darwin).
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Sub attack at 48,59

Japanese Ships
AP Kasuga Maru #2, Torpedo hits 1, on fire

Allied Ships
SS Haddock

Haddock is also retiring home and hits a small AP South East of the Philipines. Those attacks on transit are just luck when a sub stumbles over an enemy convoy, so thatīs not an achievement of mine.

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Sub attack at 48,59

Japanese Ships
AP Kasuga Maru #2, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
SS Haddock

Haddock expands her last torps with another attack on the damaged AP and sinks it. The captain, a US FLT went down with the ship!

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Day Air attack on Andaman Island , at 23,34

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
F-5A Lightning x 3
LB-30 Liberator x 39

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIb Tojo: 5 destroyed
E13A1 Jake: 2 destroyed
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed


Japanese ground losses:
13 casualties reported

Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 19

Aircraft Attacking:
24 x LB-30 Liberator bombing at 15000 feet

attack on medium height and we encountered no flak fire. Looks like the bombardment hit the base forces really hard. Low hit rate but still we destroyed over a dozen aircraft on the ground. If we can further reduce the attack height then it will surely be possible to supress Andaman.

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Day Air attack on Gili Gili , at 56,94

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
F-5A Lightning x 4
B-24D Liberator x 137

Japanese aircraft losses
H8K Emily: 1 destroyed


Japanese ground losses:
93 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 7
Airbase supply hits 4
Runway hits 64

Aircraft Attacking:
39 x B-24D Liberator bombing at 26000 feet

this attack came from Cooktown (normal range, compared to Cairns extended range) and we achieve a pretty good hit rate at save height. One B-24 was lost to ops but over 30 are damaged after such an attack. If you want to attack with full strenght you canīt do more than one attack a week.

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Day Air attack on Kiska Island , at 92,35


Allied aircraft
F4F-3 Wildcat x 37
SBD Dauntless x 40
TBF Avenger x 14
P-39D Airacobra x 17
PV-1 Ventura x 27


Allied aircraft losses
SBD Dauntless: 1 destroyed, 13 damaged
P-39D Airacobra: 2 destroyed, 2 damaged
PV-1 Ventura: 6 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
120 casualties reported
Guns lost 3

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 51
Port supply hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
8 x SBD Dauntless bombing at 2000 feet

no matter how many hits we achieve, no matter how many casualties inflict, no matter how many guns we disable, not even 30.000 bomber attacks can silence flak guns in NM. Those attacks are cancelled now after losing way over 100 aircraft for nothing in return.




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ASW attack at 18,31

Japanese Ships
SS I-7, hits 9, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
DD Kennison
DD Napier
DD Stronghold
DD Tjerk Hiddes
DD Van Galen
DD Arunta

one real hit, 8 near misses... this is the sub that is on station South East of Ceylon.

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Night Air attack on Lashio , at 35,30


Allied aircraft
Beaufighter VIF x 22


No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x Beaufighter VIF bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Koepang , at 28,77


Allied aircraft
B-25C Mitchell x 86


Allied aircraft losses
B-25C Mitchell: 2 destroyed, 12 damaged

Japanese Ships
SS I-176, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Japanese ground losses:
37 casualties reported
Guns lost 3

Port supply hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x B-25C Mitchell bombing at 16000 feet

I-176 has been patrolling off Derby for a long time when it was hit by a Mariner on nav search. Then, to my complete amazement , Hortlund moved it to the next level 3 port and disbanded it! So, we learn, at least he cares about subs that get hit! But being alerted by the anchor symbol at Koepang we decided to send the Mitchells on "low altitude attacks". Must have been luck to achieve a hit on the sub.

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Day Air attack on Koepang , at 28,77


Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 86


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
SS I-176, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Japanese ground losses:
24 casualties reported

Port fuel hits 1
Port supply hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 26000 feet

also the Fortresses from Wyndham were ordered on a port strike and they achieve another 500lb bomb hit on the sub which sinks in the afternoon. We lose 2 Mitchells so this attack was surely worth it, even though that I thought we would catch one or two MLs at Koepang so I was pretty surprised to see the sub being anchored there.

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Day Air attack on Thursday Island , at 49,90


Allied aircraft
Liberator VI x 64


No Allied losses

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x Liberator VI bombing at 26000 feet

the Liberator VI have yet to achieve an acceptable hit rate.



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TF 65 encounters mine field at Gili Gili (56,94)

Japanese Ships
AG AG-104, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

MK10 sinks a worthless barge...

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Night Air attack on Lashio , at 35,30


Allied aircraft
Beaufighter VIF x 14


No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Beaufighter VIF bombing at 2000 feet

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Sub attack at 42,63

Japanese Ships
AP Kogyo Maru, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AP Kotobuki Maru #5
MSW W.2
MSW W.5
MSW W.6
MSW W.8
PC Etoforu

Allied Ships
SS Scamp

Japanese ground losses:
62 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

South of the Philipines. 2 out of 4 torps hit the medium AP and it immediately succumbs taking parts of the 153 IJNAF base force with it! PC Etoforu is one of the high ASW value PCs... in the next months, there will be more and more of those PCs leaving the shipyards. Not good...

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Day Air attack on Andaman Island , at 23,34

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
F-5A Lightning x 1
LB-30 Liberator x 48
IL-4c x 45

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIb Tojo: 1 destroyed
B5N Kate: 1 destroyed
A6M2 Zero: 1 destroyed


Airbase hits 3
Runway hits 45

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x IL-4c bombing at 15000 feet

thereīs nearly no flak fire. We can even reduce our attack height. Seems like Andaman Island is one of the few places (probably the only one ) where the Japanese have not stacked half a dozen AA units.

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Day Air attack on Koepang , at 28,77


Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 67


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
ML Kyosai, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Japanese ground losses:
26 casualties reported

Port hits 1
Port supply hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
13 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 26000 feet

after we have sunk a sub in port of Koepang, the anchor symbol popped up again, so we ordered another attack. This time we hit a ML in port (which we expected to hit last turn) and the fragile ML sinks from the damage it has received during the engagement with my BBs and the 500lb GP bomb it took this turn.

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Day Air attack on Lautem , at 33,78


Allied aircraft
A-20G Havoc x 99


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
119 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 5
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 22

Aircraft Attacking:
36 x A-20G Havoc bombing at 25800 feet

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Day Air attack on Gili Gili , at 56,94

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
F-5A Lightning x 3
B-24D Liberator x 126

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-46-III Dinah: 1 destroyed
J1N1-R Irving: 1 destroyed


Japanese ground losses:
88 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Airbase hits 7
Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 63

Aircraft Attacking:
27 x B-24D Liberator bombing at 26000 feet


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Night Air attack on Lashio , at 35,30


Allied aircraft
Beaufighter VIF x 16


No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x Beaufighter VIF bombing at 2000 feet
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Day Air attack on Andaman Island , at 23,34


Allied aircraft
F-5A Lightning x 1
IL-4c x 30


No Allied losses

Runway hits 14

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x IL-4c bombing at 15000 feet

forgot to stand the Chinese bombers down...

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Day Air attack on Lautem , at 33,78


Allied aircraft
A-20G Havoc x 95


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
82 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 19

Aircraft Attacking:
39 x A-20G Havoc bombing at 25800 feet

with 112 Bostons/Havocs more we should soon achieve enough hits that the base is closed constantly...

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Day Air attack on TF, near Sorong at 42,74


Allied aircraft
PV-1 Ventura x 21


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AP Nichiai Maru
PG Kamitsu Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire
PG Myoken Maru, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
AP Oridono Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire
AP Chowa Maru

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x PV-1 Ventura bombing at 6000 feet

the Australian Venturaīs are attacking from Tenimbar. Another strike against a TF near Amboina failed to locate the target. Even with reduced bomb load they are pretty dangerous as they are all 80+ exp. Wonder what this TF is doing there as it seems to be empty. Perhaps picking up some troops or it has unloaded without being spotted earlier.



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Sub attack at 39,70

Japanese Ships
ML Wakatake
ML Saishu
ML Takashima
ML Ishizaki

Allied Ships
SS Pogy

Pogy missed the ML...

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Night Air attack on Lashio , at 35,30


Allied aircraft
Beaufighter VIF x 16


No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x Beaufighter VIF bombing at 2000 feet
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Sub attack at 40,68

Japanese Ships
ML Ikitsushima, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
ML Saishu
ML Takashima
ML Ishizaki

Allied Ships
SS Gar

but Gar kills the next big ML! This is great, Japanese mine laying capability was really hurt the last couple of turns...

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Day Air attack on Andaman Island , at 23,34


Allied aircraft
F-5A Lightning x 4
LB-30 Liberator x 64


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
34 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 4
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 17

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x LB-30 Liberator bombing at 10000 feet

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Day Air attack on TF at 42,73


Allied aircraft
PV-1 Ventura x 12


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AP Chowa Maru
AP Miyadono Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire
AP Burisuben Maru, Bomb hits 1

Japanese ground losses:
81 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x PV-1 Ventura bombing at 6000 feet

the high exp Venturas from Tenimbar attack a troop convoy...

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Day Air attack on TF, near Namlea at 38,73

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 58

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 36

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIb Tojo: 4 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 19 damaged

Japanese Ships
AP Asama Maru, Bomb hits 7, on fire, heavy damage
AP Kisogawa Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AP Daigen Maru
AP Ceylon Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire
AP Koryu Maru, Bomb hits 1

Japanese ground losses:
81 casualties reported

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 10000 feet

due to a lot of spotted TFs around Northern New Guinea we have set our B-17 on nav strikes. They go in against a big troop convoy at Namlea and surely this result is one of the "it pisses me off results" for Hortlund! 4 B-17 are lost A2A in the end though...

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From here on, we were out of synch...

Day Air attack on TF, near Namlea at 38,73

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 51

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 18

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIb Tojo: 9 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 18 damaged

Japanese Ships
AP Daigen Maru
AP Asama Maru, Bomb hits 5, on fire, heavy damage
AP Hakka Maru
PC Shonon Maru #3, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 10000 feet

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Day Air attack on TF, near Dili at 31,77


Allied aircraft
PV-1 Ventura x 14


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AK Tuyama Maru
AK Ussuri Maru, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x PV-1 Ventura bombing at 6000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Andaman Island at 23,34


Allied aircraft
IL-4c x 7


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
CA Kako, Bomb hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x IL-4c bombing at 6000 feet

Kako sits at Andaman Island and is attacked by half a dozen high exp Chinese long range bombers. They drop 250kg AP bombs that should penetrate every IJN CAīs armor so I guess this is a hit that did some damage. Isnīt it wonderful to suffer from the synch bug all the time... Surely 30 times+ in this PBEM so far...

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ORIGINAL: 2ndACR

One of you are not running the same version or something. I have not once been out of sync with Hortland in all of our PBEM games we have started. Everything matches up correctly everytime.


we have checked it earlier but we are both on the same version. Unfortunately this "feature" of super advance fog of war for the Allied hits me once every two weeks.

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Night Air attack on Lashio , at 35,30


Allied aircraft
Beaufighter VIF x 16


No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x Beaufighter VIF bombing at 2000 feet

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Sub attack at 44,67

Japanese Ships
TK San Pedro Maru, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
DD Teruzuki

Allied Ships
SS Pompon

a big TK is hit south of the Philipines! The downside is that it wasnīt loaded with fuel or oil (going probably to Amboina or Sorong to pick up crude oil) and so it has good chances to survive the single torp. This if Hortlund has noticed the hit (undoubtable as he watches the replay) and if Hortlund cares about the torp hit (could be doubtable with the experience Iīve made so far ). Perhaps we will see the TK sinking off Okinawa in two weeks...

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TF 78 encounters mine field at Morotai (43,68)

Japanese Ships
ML Saishu, Mine hits 1, on fire

VH2 from a Dutch minelayer sub that is now operating at short range from Darwin. Mines were laid a couple of days ago, so we guessed right that there will be quite some shipping to Morotai. The sub minelayers keep up doing a very good job. Again a big ML hit, again the ship has good chances to survive if Hortlund tries to save it.

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Day Air attack on TF, near Andaman Island at 23,34


Allied aircraft
IL-4c x 9


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
CA Kako, Bomb hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x IL-4c bombing at 6000 feet

Morning phase: a small strike of the high exp Chinese long range bombers with armor piercing 250kg bombs attacks the convoy at Andaman. Probably a supply convoy with this cruiser as escort. First bomb hit didnīt penetrate the belt but the second was a penetrating deck hit. Still, the heavy cruiser isnīt even on fire.

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Day Air attack on TF, near Andaman Island at 23,34


Allied aircraft
IL-4c x 9


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
CA Kako, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x IL-4c bombing at 6000 feet

afternoon phase: again a small strike from another bomber squadron (Iīve got 3 squadrons of those high exp bombers there) but this time two hits that penetrate the deck armor. Would be nice to see a combined strike of all my bombers there... Still, the high exp makes it possible to hit the cruiser hard in the end and the ship was left burning and heavily damaged. Recon tells me that it wasnīt split off from the convoy, so if the convoy is still unloading tomorrow the Japanese commander could be badly surprised as a British heavy cruiser squadron will be going in at night to shoot up the transport convoy. If we manage to engage the convoy we should have a clear advantage. I expect to encounter a transport convoy with the now heavily damaged CA Kako, perhaps one or two DDs and a couple of transports. They will be met by 5 British CAs, CLs and half a dozen US DDs as escorts.

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ASW attack at 48,111

Japanese Ships
SS I-156

Allied Ships
DD Wilson
DD Philip

a TF going North to Townsville stumbles over I-156, one of the recon subs off Australiaīs East coast. What has been surprising is the fact that only two of my DDs tried to engage the sub as there were 6 in the TF...

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TF 1079 encounters mine field at Andaman Island (23,34)

Allied Ships
DD Buchanan, Mine hits 1, on fire
DD Mustin, Mine hits 1, on fire

why am I not surprised that my surface combat TF hits mines? Seen that often enough, but weīre working on destroying the enemyīs minelaying capability anyway... both DDs will make it, will be repaired within two months.

the enemy ships at Andaman fled, so we have to take those two mine hits for no gain in return... once again, the Japanese moved at exactly the right turn...

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Night Air attack on Pagan , at 31,31


Allied aircraft
Beaufighter VIF x 12


No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Beaufighter VIF bombing at 2000 feet
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ASW attack at 50,108

Japanese Ships
SS I-156

Allied Ships
APD Dent
APD Stringham
APD McKean
APD Little
APD Colhoun
APD Manley

0 DCs dropped...

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ASW attack at 50,108

Japanese Ships
SS I-156

Allied Ships
APD Dent
APD Stringham
APD McKean
APD Little
APD Colhoun
APD Manley

again 0 DCs dropped...

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Day Air attack on Andaman Island , at 23,34


Allied aircraft
F-5A Lightning x 3
LB-30 Liberator x 79


Allied aircraft losses
LB-30 Liberator: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
113 casualties reported

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 33

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x LB-30 Liberator bombing at 10000 feet

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Day Air attack on Namlea , at 38,73

Japanese aircraft
Ki-44-IIb Tojo x 45

Allied aircraft
P-38G Lightning x 94

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIb Tojo: 37 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
P-38G Lightning: 1 destroyed, 10 damaged

canīt say that I think this result is okay but I guess itīs easily explained. Guess the Tojos are around 60-65 exp, they are outnumbered, the P-38 is clearly superior to the Tojo but what made this engagement a total massacre was the fact that our fighters bounced the enemy right from the start through nearly the whole engagement. The bounce is what makes a superior aircraft to an Uber weapon and I donīt know if the bounce should have so strong influence. Strong yes, but I donīt know if it isnīt to much of an influence. I really wonder how the game will look like as soon as the Japanese ran out of trained pilots, which canīt take long anymore...

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Day Air attack on Namlea , at 38,73

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
B-17E Fortress x 80
B-24D Liberator x 136

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-44-IIb Tojo: 11 destroyed

Allied aircraft losses
B-17E Fortress: 1 damaged
B-24D Liberator: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
21 casualties reported

Airbase hits 24
Airbase supply hits 11
Runway hits 154

Aircraft Attacking:
36 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 16000 feet

as planned, 30 minutes after the fighters cleared the skies over the target, 200+ heavy bombers show up and totally destroy the enemy base, torching more enemy fighters on the ground... extreme results...




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Sub attack at 40,67

Japanese Ships
AP Komeyama Maru
AP Kimishima Maru
MSW W.2
MSW W.5
MSW W.6
MSW W.8
PC Etoforu

Allied Ships
SS Scamp, hits 1

4 torps miss, an MSW drops a couple of DCs achieving a hit on Scamp which has now to retire heavily damaged with 31 sys and 37 flt...



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TF 1009 encounters mine field at Namlea (38,73)

Allied Ships
DD Gwin, Mine hits 1

again, not surprising, but surely annoying! Gwin is one of my Cowboy DD that is harrassing enemy shipping around Timor and New Guinea. Two DDs were sent to Namlea, but guess what! Exactly, the enemy TF moved out exactly this turn. Why did my DDs come late? Because two turns ago a sub that was retiring home ended up in the same hex as my DDs and the sub decided to refuel from the DDs, using up 250 op points from the DDs and therefore they couldnīt go in last turn when the enemy TF still was at Namlea. Oh well... The DD retires with minor damage from the mine hit: 14 sys 3 flt 5 fire

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Sub attack at 18,31

Japanese Ships
SS I-169

Allied Ships
DD Mustin, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

I-169 is well placed in the retreat path of my ships from Andaman Island to Trimcomalee and Mustin is finished off. The DD sinks later in the afternoon.

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ASW attack at 50,99

Japanese Ships
SS RO-65

Allied Ships
DD Caldwell
DD Bancroft
DD Welles
DD Waller
DD Saufley
DD Cony

RO-65 is still afloat. Unbelievable, this sub was reported hit not just once but it seems this always was FOW.

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Night Air attack on Pagan , at 31,31


Allied aircraft
Beaufighter VIF x 14


No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x Beaufighter VIF bombing at 2000 feet

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Dili at 31,77

Japanese Ships
AK Tuyama Maru, Shell hits 3, on fire

Allied Ships
DD Dunlap

Dunlap used up all torps but missed, the captain is a total coward, breaking off after half a dozen gun salvoes.

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Dili at 31,77

Japanese Ships
AK Ussuri Maru, Shell hits 3, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
DD Dunlap

The second big AK at Dili is engaged also, again after half a dozen salvoes the captain decides it would be best to break off instead of sending the merchant to hell...

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ASW attack at 50,99

Japanese Ships
SS RO-65, hits 10, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
DD Caldwell
DD Bancroft

Our ASW TF got another chance on RO-65 and this time the second class sub is reported sunk... definetely sunk...

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Day Air attack on Gili Gili , at 56,94


Allied aircraft
Liberator VI x 70


No Allied losses

Runway hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
16 x Liberator VI bombing at 26000 feet

my Liberator VI have yet to achieve a good result...

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Day Air attack on Kiska Island , at 92,35


Allied aircraft
TBF Avenger x 16
P-39D Airacobra x 47
PV-1 Ventura x 36


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
109 casualties reported
Guns lost 4

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 11
Port hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
14 x TBF Avenger bombing at 22400 feet

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Day Air attack on TF at 39,75


Allied aircraft
PV-1 Ventura x 48


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AP Daigen Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire
AP Ceylon Maru, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
AP Koryu Maru, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
AP Hakka Maru, Bomb hits 3, on fire
AP Kisogawa Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x PV-1 Ventura bombing at 6000 feet

itīs pretty close to suicide to move within half a dozen hexes of my best anti ship bombers. This is the TF I wanted to engage with my DDs at Namlea. Those are all high (80-90) exp bomber crews and even though they operate from Tenimbar, only a level 3 airfield they are deadly to everything uncapped within 13 hexes. I really expect a lot from them as soon as I will have a level 4+ airfield in this region to go ship hunting as they will then not only drop 500lb bombs all the time but 1000lb and 2000lb bombs.

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Day Air attack on TF at 32,77


Allied aircraft
PV-1 Ventura x 4


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AK Tuyama Maru, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x PV-1 Ventura bombing at 6000 feet

Near Dili, big AK in trouble...
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Day Air attack on TF at 32,77


Allied aircraft
PV-1 Ventura x 8


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AK Ussuri Maru, Bomb hits 6, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
4 x PV-1 Ventura bombing at 6000 feet

the other AK that was already attacked by my DD at night sinks after 6x500lb bomb hits...


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ASW attack at 37,57

Japanese Ships
PC Etoforu
PC Sado
PC Kunashiri
PC Hachijo
APD APD-39

Allied Ships
SS Whale

damn it, it seems there are already a couple of those new IJN PCs available. This is surely a dedicated ASW TF that could knock out a lot of my subs. Those PCs have 6-8000 endurance and an ASW value between 6 and 8, later modells even have 11! Seeing those vessels is not good news.

Many of my subs are a dozen hexes around the Philipines and we have at least 20 messages every day about a Betty spotting one of my subs. Rabaulīs Betties (250+) were transferred to Manila (which now has a dark airfield symbol) a week or so ago (6 Betty op losses at one day, and the dark airfield symbol at Rabaul vanished that day). They are now spotting my subs in this region and are there far away from being in danger to be transfered to Timor, Kendari or somewhere near Northern New Guinea to be let lose against an expected invasion. Will be interesting when my invasion suddenly pops up at Gili Gili... at least it then takes one day more to bring them back into position...

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Day Air attack on Amboina , at 39,73

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
F-5A Lightning x 4
B-17E Fortress x 79
B-24D Liberator x 138

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-57-II Topsy: 4 destroyed


Japanese ground losses:
103 casualties reported

Airbase hits 9
Airbase supply hits 3
Runway hits 46

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 26000 feet
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Day Air attack on TF, near Bulla at 40,75


Allied aircraft
PV-1 Ventura x 57


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AP Kisogawa Maru, Bomb hits 7, on fire, heavy damage
AP Daigen Maru, Bomb hits 6, on fire, heavy damage
AP Ceylon Maru, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
AP Hakka Maru, Bomb hits 12, on fire, heavy damage
AP Koryu Maru, Bomb hits 7, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x PV-1 Ventura bombing at 6000 feet


the TF that was hit hard yesterday gets completely annihilated today. This should open my opponentīs eyes that it is an absolutely bad idea to move his ships into this region. If it hasnīt, well, that would be good for us! I really love those Venturas in Nikmod. Carrying 6x500lb bombs and a max range of 13.

< Message edited by castor troy -- 5/16/2008 6:07:23 PM >

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Night Air attack on Lashio , at 35,30

Japanese aircraft
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 4

Allied aircraft
Beaufighter VIF x 16

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
9 x Beaufighter VIF bombing at 2000 feet

failed Japanese attempt to engage my nightfighters on bombing mission...

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Sub attack at 32,51

Japanese Ships
TK Huzisan Maru
MSW Togo Maru

Allied Ships
SS Sargo

Torps missed... grrr...

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Day Air attack on Gili Gili , at 56,94


Allied aircraft
Liberator VI x 62


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
13 casualties reported

Runway hits 11

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x Liberator VI bombing at 26000 feet

11 hits, must have been a good day for the Libs...

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Day Air attack on Kiska Island , at 92,35


Allied aircraft
TBF Avenger x 16
P-39D Airacobra x 48
PV-1 Ventura x 36


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
141 casualties reported
Guns lost 5

Runway hits 14

Aircraft Attacking:
14 x TBF Avenger bombing at 22400 feet

amazingly enough, we cause at least the same number of casulaties on the ground from max altitude as we did before on low altitude with 3 times the aircraft...

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RE: The rant goes on... Pzjg Hortlund vs Castor Troy - 5/17/2008 4:29:21 PM   
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TF 62 encounters mine field at Morotai (43,68)

Japanese Ships
MSW W.26
MSW W.25
MSW W.24

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TF 63 encounters mine field at Morotai (43,68)

Japanese Ships
PC Showa Maru #3

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ASW attack at 51,94

Japanese Ships
SS RO-66, hits 2

Allied Ships
DD Caldwell
DD Bancroft
DD Welles
DD Waller
DD Saufley
DD Cony

two near misses... seems like Hortlund uses all those RO class subs as spotters... doesnīt really hurt him if he lose those second class subs...

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TF 1092 encounters mine field at 25942384,39

Allied Ships
SS Grayback, Mine hits 1, on fire

lol, Hortlund has mined a sea hex between Sulawesi and Northern New Guinea. Donīt know if this happened by accident or he really deliberately mined this hex. Such mine fields are also a threat to his own ships and if he wants to bloccade his own shipping lanes in this region, thatīs fine with me. I can only hope that this was really by accident, as I canīt see that this would do him any good.

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Sub attack at 33,50

Japanese Ships
TK Ogura Maru #2
MSW Togo Maru

Allied Ships
SS Whale

next attack on the TK convoy, this time the torps failed to detonate...

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ASW attack at 51,94

Japanese Ships
SS RO-66, hits 17, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
DD Caldwell
DD Bancroft
DD Welles
DD Waller
DD Saufley
DD Cony

we get another chance to engage RO-66 and it is sunk after receiving several real hits... Night exp of those DDs is now over 50 so it seems this begins to pay off a bit.

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Night Air attack on Taung Gyi , at 33,32


Allied aircraft
Beaufighter VIF x 17


No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x Beaufighter VIF bombing at 2000 feet
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TF 46 encounters mine field at Truk (63,78)

Japanese Ships
MSW Eguchi Maru
MSW Choun Maru #7
AK Beryl, Mine hits 1

AK takes a MK10 from a sub on transit to Australia...

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Day Air attack on Andaman Island , at 23,34


Allied aircraft
F-5A Lightning x 5
LB-30 Liberator x 132


Allied aircraft losses
LB-30 Liberator: 4 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
165 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Airbase hits 14
Airbase supply hits 11
Runway hits 149

Aircraft Attacking:
27 x LB-30 Liberator bombing at 6000 feet

seems it will be possible to keep this base suppressed.

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Day Air attack on Amboina , at 39,73


Allied aircraft
F-5A Lightning x 3
B-17E Fortress x 63
B-24D Liberator x 117


No Allied losses

Japanese ground losses:
76 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Airbase hits 8
Runway hits 31

Aircraft Attacking:
21 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 26000 feet

6 4E bombers were lost to ops today...

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RE: The rant goes on... Pzjg Hortlund vs Castor Troy - 5/18/2008 2:42:33 PM   
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Day Air attack on Gili Gili , at 56,94

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
Liberator VI x 61

Japanese aircraft losses
Ki-46-III Dinah: 1 destroyed


Japanese ground losses:
10 casualties reported

Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 6

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Liberator VI bombing at 26000 feet

seems impossible for the high exp Australian Libs to hit from that height... wonder why, the US bombers achieve a very good hit rate from that height, even though they are less experienced.

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Day Air attack on Kiska Island , at 92,35


Allied aircraft
TBF Avenger x 14
P-39D Airacobra x 45
PV-1 Ventura x 36


Allied aircraft losses
TBF Avenger: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
50 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 2
Runway hits 5

Aircraft Attacking:
14 x TBF Avenger bombing at 22400 feet



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RE: The rant goes on... Pzjg Hortlund vs Castor Troy - 5/18/2008 2:48:18 PM   
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Night Air attack on Taung Gyi , at 33,32


Allied aircraft
Beaufighter VIF x 15


No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
6 x Beaufighter VIF bombing at 2000 feet
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ASW attack at 51,47

Japanese Ships
DD Urakaze

Allied Ships
SS Harder

must be a convoy with a single escort South of Hong Kong...

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Day Air attack on Amboina , at 39,73


Allied aircraft
PV-1 Ventura x 92


No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
AP Sunten Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Port fuel hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
12 x PV-1 Ventura bombing at 25800 feet

havenīt spotted a convoy the last turns so I decided to set the high exp Venturas to attack the shipping at Amboina at max alt. As you could expect, they didnīt hit much. To make this decision even worse, today we spotted a 10 ship+ convoy 2 hexes East of Amboina but havenīt had our bombers on nav attack...

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Day Air attack on Amboina , at 39,73

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
F-5A Lightning x 3
B-17E Fortress x 76
B-24D Liberator x 122

Japanese aircraft losses
No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Japanese Ships
PG Myoken Maru, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Japanese ground losses:
157 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Airbase hits 6
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 56
Port supply hits 1

Aircraft Attacking:
28 x B-17E Fortress bombing at 26000 feet

attacks against shipping from that height doesnīt make sense. To be honest, Iīm glad they didnīt achieve a dozen hits on ships from that alt.

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Day Air attack on Thursday Island , at 49,90

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Allied aircraft
Liberator VI x 59
Hudson I x 4

Japanese aircraft losses
No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Runway hits 2

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x Liberator VI bombing at 26000 feet

the Aussie Libs again achieve a lousy hit rate...

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Day Air attack on TF at 45,91

Japanese aircraft
B5N Kate x 6
Ki-43-Ic Oscar x 12

Allied aircraft
Seafire x 56
F4F-4 Wildcat x 149

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N Kate: 6 destroyed
Ki-43-Ic Oscar: 12 destroyed

We have our carriers on transit to Australiaīs North coast to cause some trouble and to draw out the enemy Zeroes and Betties. Hortlund is smart enough not to send in the kitchen sink to lose 50% of his high exp Navy pilots. And he even told me that he wonīt send out his aircraft just to be reduced by my Cap. In fact Iīm surprised by the high number of fighters in the air. This strike came from Thursday Island, donīt know why and what this strike should have achieved. Even the Osacrs were set on nav attack. The enemy lost the complete strike and 6 IJN pilots less in the pool now...

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RE: The rant goes on... Pzjg Hortlund vs Castor Troy - 5/18/2008 3:09:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		Our sub losses due to air attacks are again increasing. Amazing as they were always quite high anyway. Yesterday S-22 was sunk by a Helen after taking two bomb hits, today of course again a Helen hit O-24 which just had left port a couple of days and now also is in sinking condition. 500 IJA Helens and probably somthing like 20-50% of 300 Betties are out for sub hunting...


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Night Air attack on Lashio , at 35,30

Japanese aircraft
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 5

Allied aircraft
Beaufighter VIF x 13

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x Beaufighter VIF bombing at 2000 feet

the enemy Nigtfighters are still flying LRCAP... but without any effects. One Nick was lost to ops though...

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TF 66 encounters mine field at Port Moresby (53,91)

Japanese aircraft
no flights

Japanese Ships
AG AG-114, Mine hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

the only kill today, MK10 mine sinks a barge...

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Day Air attack on Andaman Island , at 23,34


Allied aircraft
F-5A Lightning x 5
LB-30 Liberator x 94


Allied aircraft losses
LB-30 Liberator: 3 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
69 casualties reported

Airbase hits 7
Airbase supply hits 5
Runway hits 53

Aircraft Attacking:
10 x LB-30 Liberator bombing at 10000 feet
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Day Air attack on Kiska Island , at 92,35


Allied aircraft
TBF Avenger x 16
P-39D Airacobra x 23
PV-1 Ventura x 24


Allied aircraft losses
TBF Avenger: 1 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
70 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

Airbase supply hits 1
Runway hits 6

Aircraft Attacking:
14 x TBF Avenger bombing at 22400 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 35,73


Allied aircraft
PV-1 Ventura x 6


Allied aircraft losses
PV-1 Ventura: 2 damaged

Japanese Ships
DD Kasumi
AP Tenryu Maru

Aircraft Attacking:
2 x PV-1 Ventura bombing at 6000 feet

we only launch a baby strike from Tenimbar against this TF south of Kendari... perhaps another troop convoy going to Northern New Guinea.... pretty dangerous area though...


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Night Air attack on Lashio , at 35,30

Japanese aircraft
Ki-45 KAIa Nick x 5

Allied aircraft
Beaufighter VIF x 12

No Japanese losses

No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
5 x Beaufighter VIF bombing at 2000 feet
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ASW attack at 18,31

Japanese Ships
SS I-29, hits 29, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
DD Norman
DD Nepal
DD Jupiter
DD Griffin
DD Express
DD Tjerk Hiddes

the high experienced British DDs prove to be real sub killers. Half of the ASW ammunition was expanded and the IJN Glen equipped recon sub South East of Ceylon sunk after several hits and two dozen near misses...

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Sub attack at 39,85

Japanese Ships
SS I-19, hits 1

Allied Ships
DD Drayton
DD Selfridge
DD Mahan
DD Fanning
DD Sterett
DD Stack

whereas the US DDs keep having problems with the Japanese subs. The sub missed and the DDs only achieve one near miss...


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RE: The rant goes on... Pzjg Hortlund vs Castor Troy - 5/18/2008 7:06:15 PM   
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ASW attack at 39,84

Japanese Ships
SS I-174

Allied Ships
MSW Bobolink
MSW Robin
MSW Grebe
MSW Turkey

not much to expect from the MSW, they achieved their task in not letting the enemy sub getting a shot at the cargoes... this is a couple of hexes East of Darwin...

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Night Air attack on Pagan , at 31,31


Allied aircraft
Beaufighter VIF x 14


No Allied losses

Aircraft Attacking:
7 x Beaufighter VIF bombing at 2000 feet

the nightfighters have yet to achieve a single bomb hit... they are always bombing the jungle 50 miles off the target airfield...

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Day Air attack on Kiska Island , at 92,35


Allied aircraft
TBF Avenger x 16
P-39D Airacobra x 43
PV-1 Ventura x 24


Allied aircraft losses
TBF Avenger: 2 damaged

Japanese ground losses:
105 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Runway hits 5

Aircraft Attacking:
14 x TBF Avenger bombing at 22400 feet


a big enemy TF was spotted around Northern Guinea but the Venturas decided not to take off. Also some 30 Zeroes and 9 Tojos were spotted by a recon Ligthning over Amboina. Looks like something is up. Perhaps just a feint to lure a Lightning sweep in that then meets 250 fighters on Cap. But would I not send in 100 Lightnings followed by 200 bombers when our enemy puts such a Cap into the air. I guess at this point I already would... 90% of my ships in range of enemy search aircraft are spotted several times every turn. Also a lot of Betties are spotting my shipping around Darwin now, Hortlund has obviously moved them closer to the front again. It seems heīs concerned about my carriers being around Darwin now.

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