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RIDERS ON THE STORM-THANK YOU - 10/26/2007 9:54:28 AM

Gen.Hoepner

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Hi all, this will be the AAR of my brand new Pbem game against Trollelite.
We're gonna play CHS scenario 160, meaning the one with Extended AB's map and Experimental Nik's Mod.

HRs are the following:

1.No 4-engine bomb under 15000 feet, except for british 4-e squadrons (FE),( they use a single 4000 lb bomb) and B-17D
2.no B-29 under 20000
3.no B-29 anti-ship
4.no strategy bomb on resource under 100, and any other thing (oil, heavy industry, aircraft factory,etc) under 50, no man power attack except for japan home islands (no restriction for Jap side)
5. no night mission except for night fighter and Patrol boat units. Any side could convert a normal bomber unit to night bomber unit. To do so, they first have to be announced, after this, they act as night units and cannot henceforce be given day missions and cannot be converted back.
6.No PT enter those deep water hexes, that surrounded all six sides by water hex.
7.Allied asw group not exceed 6 ships, no restriction to japanese.
8.No sub landing (both sides)
9.No allied units (land, naval or air) can enter soviet territory.
10. Except initial chinese exp.force, only 2 other chinese corps could be changed to southeast asia command and be able to fight in burma and india. There is no restriction to support units, however. Those 2 corps should be announced.
11.chinese forces under china command can fight in manchuria, korea,taiwan, vietnam, but not siam, burma,DEI,or india, etc.
12,Philippine could only be landed on US and local forces.
13. No allied offensive action in northern pacific before soviet enter war. They can take back any amercian territory occupied by japanese, however.
14. No US corsair units on board carriers before 1, Jan, 1945. There is no restriction to British Corsair units. If Japanese ever use kamikaze before 1945, this restriction would be removed.
15. Japanese can only use those aircrafts designed for carrier, such as N1J or J2M are not allowed.
16. Only 6 carriers, 12 cruisers can be reconstructed by allied. Of these, 2 should be used to replace australian cruisers and not allowed to use on US units. Only Heavy cruisers and american "10000-tons" light cruiser could be replaced. Those reconstruced ships should be announced before enter service.

Japan will be free to attack 2 ports at first turn. My opponent already told me he's going to attack Singapore and Manila to take out allied SS fleet and force Z. It's ok for me.
Allied won't be moving any Ship on turn 1 except those already at sea.

I've done my first turn, now waiting to see how badly will be the situation in the SRA with KB around.....

Ah, obviously, Trollelite is forbidden in this Thread.

As soon as the war goes on i'll be updating with screenshots and map.

Stay tuned.

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RE: RIDERS ON THE STORM - Hoepner (A) vs. Trollelite(J) - 10/26/2007 12:19:02 PM

Gen.Hoepner

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So the first reply has arrived...
...well, my situation looks already as grimm as it could be.
KB sunk the entire Singapore Fleet, while Land Air forces sunk the whole Subs Fleet present at Manila.
At the same time Palembang, and Most of Borneo (Balikapan Included are invaded.)
Baby KB is hounting south of Borneo and already intercepted and Sunk the Marblehead division.....

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/07/41
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Day Air attack on Singapore , at 22,51

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 21
D3A2 Val x 137
B5N2 Kate x 115
F1M2 Pete x 6

Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 4

Japanese aircraft losses
D3A2 Val: 5 destroyed, 57 damaged
B5N2 Kate: 1 destroyed, 32 damaged
F1M2 Pete: 4 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Buffalo I: 2 destroyed

Allied Ships
BB Prince of Wales, Bomb hits 102, Torpedo hits 10, on fire, heavy damage
CL Mauritius, Bomb hits 7, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
CL Danae, Bomb hits 7, on fire, heavy damage
DD Vendetta, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
PG Dragonfly, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AK Lipis, Torpedo hits 1
SS Rover, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AK Mangola, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AK Kedah, Bomb hits 1, on fire
DD Electra, Bomb hits 2, on fire
AO Spirila, Bomb hits 1
DD Encounter, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AP Manoora, Bomb hits 1, on fire
DD Isis, Bomb hits 1, heavy damage
AS Wuchang, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
MSW Goulburn, Bomb hits 1, on fire
DM Stronghold, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

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Day Air attack on Singapore , at 22,51

Japanese aircraft
G3M Nell x 128

Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 2

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M Nell: 2 destroyed, 30 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Buffalo I: 5 destroyed
Catalina I: 2 destroyed
Blenheim IV: 3 destroyed
Vildebeest IV: 7 destroyed
Swordfish: 3 destroyed

Allied ground losses:
97 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 23
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 81

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Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 26
G3M Nell x 76
G4M1 Betty x 64
Ki-46-II Dinah x 1

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M Nell: 2 destroyed, 28 damaged
G4M1 Betty: 2 destroyed, 12 damaged

Allied Ships
SS Saury, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
SS Seal, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
SS Salmon, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AS Otus, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
SS Tarpon, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AO Pecos, Bomb hits 1, on fire
SS Searaven, Bomb hits 1, on fire
SS Porpoise, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AP Basilan, Bomb hits 2, on fire
PT PT-31, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
SS Spearfish, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
SS Stingray, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
SS Perch, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
SS Permit, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
SS Sculpin, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
PG Tulsa, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
SS Seawolf, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
SS Snapper, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
SS Swordfish, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
AK Princessa, Torpedo hits 1, on fire
PC Genesee, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AK Governor Taft, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
PG Asheville, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AK Lanakai, Bomb hits 1, on fire
MSW Tanager, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
SS S-40, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AVD Childs, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AK Sagoland, Bomb hits 1, on fire
SS Shark, Bomb hits 1, on fire
SS S-38, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
SS Pickerel, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
SS Skipjack, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
SS S-37, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AS Canopus, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AV Langley, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
SS Pike, Bomb hits 1, on fire
PG Oahu, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
SS Sailfish, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AK Fortuna, Bomb hits 1, on fire

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Day Air attack on TF, near Toboali at 21,57

Japanese aircraft
B5N2 Kate x 42

Japanese aircraft losses
B5N2 Kate: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
ML William van der Zaan, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

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Day Air attack on TF at 33,64

Japanese aircraft
D3A2 Val x 14
B5N2 Kate x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
D3A2 Val: 1 damaged
B5N2 Kate: 3 damaged

Allied Ships
CL Marblehead
DD Bulmer, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
DD Barker
DD Paul Jones, Bomb hits 1, on fire

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Naval bombardment of Tarakan, at 34,60 - Coastal Guns Fire Back!

4 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
CA Kako
CA Furutaka, Shell hits 1
CA Kinugasa
CA Aoba

Allied Ships
ML Gouden Leeuw, Shell hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
TK JMG den Hartog, Shell hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
TK Agnita, Shell hits 1
AVD Sirius, Shell hits 1, on fire
AK Siaoe, Shell hits 1
AK Sipirok, Shell hits 1, on fire

Allied ground losses:
112 casualties reported
Guns lost 5

Airbase hits 1
Runway hits 2

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Naval bombardment of Balikpapan, at 31,64

Japanese Ships
CA Kumano
CA Suzuya
CA Mikuma
CA Mogami

Allied Ships
TK Anastasia, Shell hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
AK Van der Bosch, Shell hits 6, on fire
TK P. J. Duinker, Shell hits 4, on fire
TK Benakat, Shell hits 3, on fire
AD Black Hawk, Shell hits 2, on fire
AK Maetsuycker, Shell hits 1, on fire
AK Siantar, Shell hits 4, on fire
ML Soemenep, Shell hits 5, on fire, heavy damage
AP Mijer, Shell hits 2

Allied ground losses:
44 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Airbase hits 2
Airbase supply hits 2
Runway hits 7

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TF 4 troops unloading over beach at Singkawang, 25,56

Japanese ground losses:
109 casualties reported

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Coastal Guns at Wake Island, 85,72, firing at TF 16
TF 16 troops unloading over beach at Wake Island, 85,72

566 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
AP Kongo Maru
CL Tatsuta, Shell hits 8
ML Okinoshima, Shell hits 2
ML Tsugaru, Shell hits 4, on fire
CL Yubari, Shell hits 17, on fire, heavy damage
DD Yayoi, Shell hits 1
ML Tokiwa, Shell hits 5
DD Asanagi, Shell hits 29, on fire, heavy damage

Japanese ground losses:
826 casualties reported
Guns lost 3

Allied ground losses:
21 casualties reported

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TF 20 troops unloading over beach at Tarakan, 34,60

Japanese ground losses:
380 casualties reported

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Coastal Guns at Kuching, 27,56, firing at TF 33
TF 33 troops unloading over beach at Kuching, 27,56

57 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
MSW W.5, Shell hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
AP Hakutetsu Maru #13, Shell hits 2
AP Nichiran Maru, Shell hits 1

Japanese ground losses:
602 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

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Coastal Guns at Palembang, 20,55, firing at TF 35
TF 35 troops unloading over beach at Palembang, 20,55

Japanese ground losses:
241 casualties reported

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Coastal Guns at Balikpapan, 31,64, firing at TF 56
TF 56 troops unloading over beach at Balikpapan, 31,64

Japanese ground losses:
153 casualties reported

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TF 57 troops unloading over beach at Kendari, 33,71

Japanese ground losses:
313 casualties reported

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TF 74 troops unloading over beach at Miri, 32,56

Japanese ground losses:
42 casualties reported

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TF 76 troops unloading over beach at Dadjangas, 42,61

Japanese ground losses:
9 casualties reported

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TF 82 troops unloading over beach at Toboali, 21,57

Japanese ground losses:
134 casualties reported

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Coastal Guns at Brunei, 33,56, firing at TF 89
TF 89 troops unloading over beach at Brunei, 33,56

40 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
PC Showa Maru #5, Shell hits 3, on fire
AK Meigen Maru, Shell hits 2
PC Gamitsu Maru #1

Japanese ground losses:
187 casualties reported

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TF 92 troops unloading over beach at Batan Islands, 46,47

Japanese ground losses:
85 casualties reported

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TF 97 troops unloading over beach at Butuan, 44,59

Japanese ground losses:
85 casualties reported

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TF 100 troops unloading over beach at Puerto Princesa, 39,55

Japanese ground losses:
132 casualties reported

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TF 101 troops unloading over beach at Jolo Island, 39,59

Japanese ground losses:
38 casualties reported

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Coastal Guns at Pontianak, 24,57, firing at TF 107
TF 107 troops unloading over beach at Pontianak, 24,57

18 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
AP Yamakisan Maru, Shell hits 1
PG Saga, Shell hits 1

Japanese ground losses:
205 casualties reported

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Coastal Guns at Samarinda, 31,63, firing at TF 115
TF 115 troops unloading over beach at Samarinda, 31,63

Japanese ground losses:
31 casualties reported

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Coastal Guns at Manado, 39,67, firing at TF 140
TF 140 troops unloading over beach at Manado, 39,67

Japanese ground losses:
181 casualties reported

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Coastal Guns at Rabaul, 62,90, firing at TF 180
TF 180 troops unloading over beach at Rabaul, 62,90

51 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
PG Seikai Maru, Shell hits 1
PC Tama Maru #8, Shell hits 2

Japanese ground losses:
568 casualties reported

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TF 182 troops unloading over beach at Nauru Island, 77,95

Japanese ground losses:
45 casualties reported

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TF 183 troops unloading over beach at Tarawa, 84,95

Japanese ground losses:
53 casualties reported

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TF 184 troops unloading over beach at Guam, 63,66

Japanese ground losses:
73 casualties reported

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Ground combat at Kuching

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 1114 troops, 2 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 38

Defending force 7510 troops, 30 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 136

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Ground combat at Palembang

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 1168 troops, 23 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 24

Defending force 1319 troops, 15 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 80

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Ground combat at Balikpapan

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 803 troops, 12 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 20

Defending force 3182 troops, 3 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 29

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Ground combat at Samarinda

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 1053 troops, 21 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 23

Defending force 536 troops, 6 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 29

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Ground combat at Manado

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 1355 troops, 11 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 43

Defending force 1963 troops, 15 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 93

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Ground combat at Rabaul

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 1513 troops, 25 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 36

Defending force 5419 troops, 29 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 166

Japanese ground losses:
9 casualties reported

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Ground combat at Wake Island

Allied Bombardment attack

Attacking force 1160 troops, 47 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 6

Defending force 1874 troops, 19 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 84

Japanese ground losses:
214 casualties reported
Guns lost 6

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Ground combat at Aparri

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 75 troops, 2 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 2

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Japanese max assault: 2 - adjusted assault: 4

Allied max defense: 0 - adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 4 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Aparri base !!!

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Ground combat at Tuguegarao

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 88 troops, 2 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 3

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Japanese max assault: 4 - adjusted assault: 4

Allied max defense: 0 - adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 4 to 1 (fort level 3)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Tuguegarao base !!!

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Ground combat at Naga

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 312 troops, 3 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 15

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Japanese max assault: 24 - adjusted assault: 14

Allied max defense: 0 - adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 14 to 1 (fort level 3)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Naga base !!!

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Ground combat at Nauru Island

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 776 troops, 5 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 23

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Japanese max assault: 40 - adjusted assault: 20

Allied max defense: 0 - adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 20 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Nauru Island base !!!

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Ground combat at Tarawa

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 499 troops, 5 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 22

Defending force 0 troops, 0 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 0

Japanese max assault: 42 - adjusted assault: 23

Allied max defense: 0 - adjusted defense: 1

Japanese assault odds: 23 to 1 (fort level 0)

Japanese forces CAPTURE Tarawa base !!!

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Ground combat at Wake Island

Japanese Shock attack

Attacking force 1596 troops, 11 guns, 0 vehicles, Assault Value = 72

Defending force 3024 troops, 63 guns, 12 vehicles, Assault Value = 6

Japanese max assault: 114 - adjusted assault: 20

Allied max defense: 4 - adjusted defense: 14

Japanese assault odds: 1 to 1 (fort level 1)

Japanese Assault reduces fortifications to 0

Japanese ground losses:
468 casualties reported
Guns lost 3

Allied ground losses:
5 casualties reported

Well...this isn't exactly a good way to start

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RE: RIDERS ON THE STORM - Hoepner (A) vs. Trollelite(J) - 10/26/2007 12:46:17 PM

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OK,just post this one, and never come again..

It seems sync problem already in first turn. Other results is the same, but I got a much worse wake island dice result.

oastal Guns at Wake Island, 85,72, firing at TF 16
TF 16 troops unloading over beach at Wake Island, 85,72

712 Coastal gun shots fired in defense.
Japanese Ships
DD Mutsuki, Shell hits 10, on fire, heavy damage
ML Okinoshima, Shell hits 5, on fire
CL Tenryu, Shell hits 10, on fire, heavy damage
ML Tsugaru, Shell hits 6, on fire
ML Tokiwa, Shell hits 4
DD Kisaragi, Shell hits 5, on fire
DD Yunagi, Shell hits 31, on fire, heavy damage
DD Mochizuki, Shell hits 3
DD Asanagi, Shell hits 5

Japanese ground losses:
918 casualties reported
Guns lost 9

Allied ground losses:
75 casualties reported
Guns lost 3

Those heavy-damaged ships are definetly gone, some others would follow, I am afraid....

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RE: RIDERS ON THE STORM - Hoepner (A) vs. Trollelite(J) - 10/26/2007 1:05:55 PM

Gen.Hoepner

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Oh com'on! Those ships at Wake aren't anything compared to the tons of ships that i'm losing in the DEI-SRA-PI!!!!

However, i'm quite used to the sync problems...i consider a kind of FOW result

Still waiting for your turn to come:-)

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RE: RIDERS ON THE STORM - Hoepner (A) vs. Trollelite(J) - 10/26/2007 1:25:47 PM

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I don't think it as FOW, because Japs know exactly what happens, it's unfair to apply "FOW" on allied side only...

This first turn is actually rather disappointing, partly because you get a pre-warning, otherwise I perhaps have great chance to catch Repulse, too.

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RE: RIDERS ON THE STORM - Hoepner (A) vs. Trollelite(J) - 10/26/2007 1:34:06 PM

Gen.Hoepner

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Disappointing? Oh, well, i won't say so. You have a solid footstep in SRA 2 weeks earlier than usual, which means that 90% of the fleet and ar assets present there are gone for good. Same for land units.
I really think this kind of opening move puts Japan in a good situation. Pacific early expansion is good, but SRA is defenetly more valuable!

But stop talking! Send me the turn

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RE: RIDERS ON THE STORM - Hoepner (A) vs. Trollelite(J) - 10/26/2007 2:03:20 PM

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RE: RIDERS ON THE STORM - Hoepner (A) vs. Trollelite(J) - 10/26/2007 4:56:59 PM

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It's cool 2 C U back Gen. Hoepner. I'll have to add this to my list of AARs 2 read; I enjoyed some of your previous ones. How are things in China/Burma for you? Where do you plan to draw your initial lines of defense? And will you do a Sir Robin in Malaya? From looking @ the map I was wondering what would happen if the allies just pushed up from Singapore/Kuantan and tried to drive up past Tavoy and into Moulmein... I've never seen that done B4 but there have been a few games I've played (I'm a JFB) where I thought my opponent could have pulled that off.

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RE: RIDERS ON THE STORM - Hoepner (A) vs. Trollelite(J) - 10/26/2007 5:26:06 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: 1EyedJacks

It's cool 2 C U back Gen. Hoepner. I'll have to add this to my list of AARs 2 read; I enjoyed some of your previous ones. How are things in China/Burma for you? Where do you plan to draw your initial lines of defense? And will you do a Sir Robin in Malaya? From looking @ the map I was wondering what would happen if the allies just pushed up from Singapore/Kuantan and tried to drive up past Tavoy and into Moulmein... I've never seen that done B4 but there have been a few games I've played (I'm a JFB) where I thought my opponent could have pulled that off.

Hi 1EyedJacks,

it's still too early to decide what to do. Have seen just the reply of the 7th Dec. so i really do not know nothing yet.
For sure i'll try not to do Sir Robin everywhere, cause i think Japan needs to be slowed down in the first 6 months of war.
I really never did anything like you describe in Malaya but i reallydo not think the Malayan troops could worth a dime in an offensive operation.
The problem is that Palembang is already invaded and Balikapan too so Singapore is virtually already cut off from any supply-route.
China and Burma...well, china with these new CHS maps is a big mess: tons of useless guerrilla units difficult to master. However here depends on what will my opponent do. If he tries to push me back i'll be forced to do something, otherwise i'll probably save supplies...
Burma...well, as said, too early to tell.

Will be interesting to see, with the KB in the SRA, what can the americans do in the pacific.
Wake, if it doesn't fall, can be a nasty nail in the japanese perimeter if reinforced.
In the south Tarawa and Rabaul are already invaded, so probably i'll be forced to stay far beyond the Solomons, at least for the first months....

However, it's still up to him. I'll try to be as elastic as it's necessary to be.

Tonight we'll have some answers...stay tuned

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RE: RIDERS ON THE STORM - Hoepner (A) vs. Trollelite(J) - 10/26/2007 5:40:20 PM

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102 bomb hits on the PoW seems a bit excessive.

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RE: RIDERS ON THE STORM - Hoepner (A) vs. Trollelite(J) - 10/26/2007 5:52:33 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: anarchyintheuk

102 bomb hits on the PoW seems a bit excessive.

Oh, yes, a bit too cruel i'd say

I do not know if it's because of the sync bug that already afflicts us or what...probably the PoW was just the biggest ship in port and those nasty bastards targeted her all togheder

However, she blew up in a cloud of smoke along with her crew and her cpt.

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RE: RIDERS ON THE STORM - Hoepner (A) vs. Trollelite(J) - 10/26/2007 7:09:20 PM

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I'm really curious how this experimental nik's mod acts with A2A and Flak. I really think Japanese AA was badly understimated in stock scenarios and A2A model needed a twekening due to the lethality of the air combats...

...let's see

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RE: RIDERS ON THE STORM - Hoepner (A) vs. Trollelite(J) - 10/27/2007 2:41:23 AM

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General Hoepner....

Good to see you back in the WitP forums. If you want to see less lethality with A2A and greater lethality with AA you selected a good scenario.

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RE: RIDERS ON THE STORM - Hoepner (A) vs. Trollelite(J) - 10/27/2007 11:32:32 AM

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Thanks Spruance!

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/08/41

At the second day of war seems clear that my opponent is avoiding a mass invasion of Luzon in order to be able to take DEI and SRA sooner. the Whole Borneo is already in his hands and in few days will surely be full of Betties and Nells that will interrupt any supply route to Manila. As i always say, Luzon doesn't need to be conquered at the beginning: encirle it and proceed, it will starve anyway

Good move Trollelite!
The strange fact is that Malaya hasn't been invaded. Only 1 unit has been unloaded at Singora...this can mean that the other divisions and minor units that usually take part in the Malaya invasion will be used for something else...Darwin?????mmm...that may be...it remembers me of my plan to invade Northern Oz by mid December that i used against MC one year ago...smart!!
However, i won't try to evacuate Malaya: the KB (which is now near Batavia) and the combined japanese air forces placed at Palembang and Bankok will sink any unit that will try to exit from the strait...

The good thing is that my major surface units (except for PoW and 2 british CLs and something like 5 DDs) are almost safe.

In the pacific the yanks are already on the move. We're sending men and supplies to Wake Island, Canton, Palmira and few other eastern isles in order to build a strong defensive perimeter. Convoys are on their way from Panama and SF to PH and Oz.

In China everything is quiet for the moment.

In Burma...too early to tell what he's doin'.

CA Houston with 3 heroic DDs managed to inflict some damages before leaving at full speed to Darwin....
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Night Time Surface Combat, near Dadjangas at 42,61

Japanese Ships
AP Yamato Maru, Shell hits 2, on fire

Allied Ships
CA Houston

Japanese ground losses:
53 casualties reported

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Batan Islands at 46,47

Japanese Ships
MSW W.13, Shell hits 3, on fire
MSW W.14
ML Kamome
AP Izumo Maru
AK Udo Maru, Shell hits 1

Allied Ships
DD Scout, Shell hits 2
DD Thanet

Japanese ground losses:
13 casualties reported

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Dadjangas at 42,61

Japanese Ships
AP Daitei Maru
AP Gotake Maru, Shell hits 9, on fire, heavy damage

Allied Ships
CA Houston

Japanese ground losses:
93 casualties reported

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Samarinda at 31,63

Japanese Ships
AP Koan Maru, Shell hits 1

Allied Ships
DD Paul Jones, on fire

Paul Jones, even if being badly damaged and on fire, prooved to be formed by an heroic crew--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Manila's harbour is again badly hit....the former PI fleet is now just a memory....

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Day Air attack on Manila , at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 86
G3M Nell x 107
G4M1 Betty x 84
Ki-46-II Dinah x 2

Allied aircraft
P-40B Tomahawk x 10
P-40E Warhawk x 23

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M Nell: 1 destroyed, 21 damaged
G4M1 Betty: 2 destroyed, 14 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
P-40B Tomahawk: 8 destroyed
P-40E Warhawk: 8 destroyed, 7 damaged

Allied Ships
AVD Childs, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AS Canopus, Bomb hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
AO Pecos, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
AK Princessa, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AR Dewey Dry Dock, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AV Langley, Bomb hits 7, on fire, heavy damage
AP Basilan, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AK Lanakai, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AK Governor Taft, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AK Sagoland, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AS Otus, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
MSW Tanager, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
PC Genesee, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
PG Tulsa, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AK Fortuna, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
PG Oahu, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Allied ground losses:
1050 casualties reported
Guns lost 10
Vehicles lost 7

Port hits 10
Port fuel hits 1
Port supply hits 1
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Mauritius and Danae are no longer usefull units...

Day Air attack on Singapore , at 22,51

Japanese aircraft
G3M Nell x 22

Allied aircraft
Wirraway x 1
Buffalo I x 4

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M Nell: 14 damaged

Allied Ships
CL Mauritius, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
CL Danae, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Allied ground losses:
27 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Port hits 1

Paul Jones DD needs to be named today....
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Day Time Surface Combat at 32,64

Japanese Ships
AK Tetsuzan Maru
AK Unyo Maru #2, Shell hits 3, on fire
AK Houn Maru, on fire, heavy damage
AK Kenkon Maru, Shell hits 1
AK Taiko Maru #3, Shell hits 3, on fire

Allied Ships
DD Paul Jones, Shell hits 3, on fire

Japanese ground losses:
199 casualties reported
Guns lost 2

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KB and baby KB keep on sinking fleeing minor units (mostly AKs and TKs ) in the Java sea....i plan to lose something like 80 ships in these first days of war....

later on i'll post some screenshots...

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RE: RIDERS ON THE STORM - Hoepner (A) vs. Trollelite(J) - 10/27/2007 1:12:46 PM

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AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/09/41

Ok, it's a slaughterhouse.....Around Java and in the Celebes i'm losing the entire ducth merchant fleet!

KB, baby KB and now the Nells at Tarakan are decimating my units that are trying to escape at their horrible fate...
probably the number of lost ships will arrive at 150... it's a disaster

The KB raided Sosarbaja, destroying what remained in port, while japanese assault troops landed at Merak, north of Java: so he bypassed Malaya and Luzon to assault directly Java!
His subs, placed in the Malaya strait and south of Java did a great job today, sinking or badly damaging 10 of my ships
Mauritius and Danae CLs are sunk for good at Singapore, after another daylight raid.
My brave duch pilots tried to inflict some damage to the KB, but they only achieved to waste their life and above all their precious planes! Now the Japanese air supremacy over Java is complete.

HK fell, after few days of naval bombardment. 20k british POWs are now driven back into china to work in the ri-educational japanese Camps.

Nothing i can do right now. Java is gonna fall quickly, then it will be Malaya's turn.
Gotta start to think to a plan to defend India and Oz...this is gonna be intense!!!!

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Sub attack near Johore Bahru at 22,50

Japanese Ships
SS I-158

Allied Ships
AO Spirila, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

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Sub attack at 24,67

Japanese Ships
SS I-165

Allied Ships
AVD Mercel, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

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Night Time Surface Combat at 34,64

Japanese Ships
CA Myoko
CA Haguro
CA Nachi
CL Sendai
CL Yura
CL Kinu
CL Kitakami
DD Fubuki
DD Shinonome
DD Usugumo
DD Shirakumo
DD Isonami
DD Shirayuki
DD Hatsuyuki
DD Uranami
DD Shikinami
DD Ayanami
DD Sagiri
DD Minekaze
DD Yukaze
DD Wakatake
DD Kuretake
DD Sanae
DD Asagao
DD Fuyo

Allied Ships
AK Opon, Shell hits 14, and is sunk

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Night Time Surface Combat, near Balikpapan at 31,64

Japanese Ships
CA Mogami
CA Mikuma
CA Suzuya
CA Kumano
DD Maikaze
DD Nowaki
DD Arashi
DD Hagikaze
DD Hatsuharu
DD Nenohi
DD Hatsushimo
DD Wakaba

Allied Ships
DD Paul Jones, Shell hits 12, and is sunk

DD Paul Jones did what he could.....i could not ask for more

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Night Time Surface Combat at 24,58

Japanese Ships
CA Tone
CA Chikuma
DD Akebono
DD Sazanami

Allied Ships
AK Kampar, Shell hits 10, Torpedo hits 4, and is sunk
AK Dayak, Shell hits 3, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk

Allied ground losses:
216 casualties reported
Guns lost 7
Vehicles lost 1

This was a unit i was trying to save....

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Night Time Surface Combat at 24,58

Japanese Ships
CA Tone
CA Chikuma
DD Akebono
DD Sazanami

Allied Ships
AK Munlock, Shell hits 9, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk

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Sub attack at 29,68

Japanese Ships
SS I-24

Allied Ships
AP Mijer, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

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Sub attack at 23,69

Japanese Ships
SS I-172, hits 1

Allied Ships
TK Marpessa, Shell hits 2, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

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Day Air attack on Singapore , at 22,51

Japanese aircraft
G3M Nell x 73

Allied aircraft
Buffalo I x 1

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M Nell: 2 destroyed, 22 damaged

Allied Ships
CL Mauritius, Bomb hits 5, on fire, heavy damage
AK Kedah, Bomb hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
CL Danae, Bomb hits 5, on fire, heavy damage

Allied ground losses:
248 casualties reported
Guns lost 5

Port hits 3
Port fuel hits 1
Port supply hits 1

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Day Air attack on TF at 24,64

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 95

Allied aircraft
Hawk 75A x 9
CW-21B Demon x 9
Brewster 339D x 14
T.IVa x 9
Martin 139 x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 2 destroyed, 3 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Hawk 75A: 6 destroyed
CW-21B Demon: 9 destroyed
Brewster 339D: 12 destroyed
T.IVa: 4 destroyed, 1 damaged
Martin 139: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged

Japanese Ships
AO Toei Maru

Aircraft Attacking:
1 x T.IVa launching torpedoes at 200 feet

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Day Air attack on TF at 25,68

Japanese aircraft
D3A2 Val x 39
B5N2 Kate x 22

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
TK Benakat, Bomb hits 4, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
TK P. J. Duinker, Bomb hits 6, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AK Siantar, Bomb hits 1
AK Van der Bosch, Bomb hits 7, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AK Maetsuycker, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
TK Anastasia, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage

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Day Air attack on TF at 25,68

Japanese aircraft
D3A2 Val x 11
B5N2 Kate x 21

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Siantar, Bomb hits 2, on fire
AK Van der Bosch, on fire, heavy damage
AK Maetsuycker, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
TK Benakat, on fire, heavy damage
TK Anastasia, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

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Day Air attack on TF, near Soerabaja at 23,66

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 27
D3A2 Val x 16
B5N2 Kate x 28

Allied aircraft
Hawk 75A x 8
CW-21B Demon x 8
Brewster 339D x 17

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 3 destroyed
D3A2 Val: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Hawk 75A: 3 destroyed, 1 damaged
CW-21B Demon: 2 destroyed
Brewster 339D: 4 destroyed, 5 damaged

Allied Ships
ML Krakatau, Bomb hits 3, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
ML Prins van Oranje, Bomb hits 6, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

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Day Air attack on Soerabaja , at 23,66

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 35
D3A2 Val x 99
B5N2 Kate x 128
F1M2 Pete x 2

Allied aircraft
Hawk 75A x 4
CW-21B Demon x 4
Brewster 339D x 7

Japanese aircraft losses
D3A2 Val: 2 damaged
B5N2 Kate: 1 destroyed, 4 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Hawk 75A: 2 damaged
CW-21B Demon: 1 damaged
Brewster 339D: 2 destroyed

Allied Ships
AK Batak, Bomb hits 6, on fire, heavy damage
AK Op Ten Noort, Bomb hits 5, on fire, heavy damage
AK Benkalis, Bomb hits 6, on fire, heavy damage
AK Boero, Bomb hits 11, on fire, heavy damage
AK Senang, Bomb hits 11, on fire, heavy damage
AK Van Lansberger, Bomb hits 6, on fire, heavy damage
AK Balikpapan, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
AK Ban Ho Guan, Bomb hits 5, on fire, heavy damage
AK Tjisaroea, Bomb hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AK Sigli, Bomb hits 7, on fire, heavy damage
AK Sinabang, Bomb hits 6, on fire, heavy damage
AK Toendjoek, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
AK Loa Koeloe, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
AK Parigi, Bomb hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
AK Duymaer van Twist, Bomb hits 2, on fire
AK Modjekerto, Bomb hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
AK Van Outhoom, Bomb hits 1, on fire
AK Van Heutsz, Bomb hits 3, on fire, heavy damage
PC Albatros, Bomb hits 1, on fire

Allied ground losses:
171 casualties reported
Guns lost 1

Port hits 8
Port fuel hits 2

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Day Air attack on TF at 24,64

Japanese aircraft
A6M2 Zero x 83

Allied aircraft
Hawk 75A x 2
CW-21B Demon x 2
Brewster 339D x 3
T.IVa x 2
Martin 139 x 2

Japanese aircraft losses
A6M2 Zero: 1 damaged

Allied aircraft losses
Hawk 75A: 1 destroyed
CW-21B Demon: 2 destroyed
Brewster 339D: 1 destroyed
T.IVa: 1 destroyed
Martin 139: 1 damaged

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Day Air attack on TF at 31,66

Japanese aircraft
G3M Nell x 3

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M Nell: 1 damaged

Allied Ships
AK Van der Lijn, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

Aircraft Attacking:
3 x G3M Nell launching torpedoes at 200 feet
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Day Air attack on TF at 40,65

Japanese aircraft
D3A2 Val x 20
B5N2 Kate x 28

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Sipirok, Bomb hits 3, Torpedo hits 4, on fire, heavy damage
TK JMG den Hartog, Bomb hits 9, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

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Day Air attack on TF at 29,68

Japanese aircraft
G3M Nell x 12

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AP Mijer, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage

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Day Air attack on TF at 30,66

Japanese aircraft
G3M Nell x 9

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
ML Soemenep, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

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Day Air attack on TF at 38,45

Japanese aircraft
B5N2 Kate x 5

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
TK Ebonol, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

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Day Air attack on TF at 48,43

Japanese aircraft
D1A Susie x 5
Ki-27 Nate x 27

No Japanese losses

Allied Ships
AK Morazan, Shell hits 8, Bomb hits 9, on fire, heavy damage

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Sub attack at 22,46

Japanese Ships
SS I-153

Allied Ships
AK Matang, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

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Day Time Surface Combat at 34,64

Japanese Ships
CA Myoko
CA Haguro
CA Nachi
CL Sendai
CL Yura
CL Kinu
CL Kitakami
DD Fubuki
DD Shinonome
DD Usugumo
DD Shirakumo
DD Isonami
DD Shirayuki
DD Hatsuyuki
DD Uranami
DD Shikinami
DD Ayanami
DD Sagiri
DD Minekaze
DD Yukaze
DD Wakatake
DD Kuretake
DD Sanae
DD Asagao
DD Fuyo

Allied Ships
ML Gouden Leeuw, Shell hits 3, and is sunk
TK Colina, Shell hits 2, Torpedo hits 1, and is sunk
AK Siaoe, Shell hits 11, Torpedo hits 3, and is sunk

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Day Time Surface Combat at 42,52

Japanese Ships
CA Maya
CA Ashigara
CL Natori
CL Kuma
DD Yamagumo
DD Satsuki
DD Minazuki
DD Fumizuki
DD Nagatsuki
DD Asakaze
DD Harukaze
DD Matsukaze
DD Hatakaze

Allied Ships
PG Luzon, Shell hits 3, and is sunk

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Sub attack at 22,46

Japanese Ships
SS I-153

Allied Ships
AK Matang, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage

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Sub attack at 24,67

Japanese Ships
SS I-165

Allied Ships
AK Tarakan, Shell hits 1, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage

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Ok, now i really think we're in trouble.... if he keeps this pace he can consider invading India in Jan 42....and i'm not ready...not at all

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RE: RIDERS ON THE STORM - Hoepner (A) vs. Trollelite(J) - 10/27/2007 1:51:23 PM

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Welcome back General,

Ready for another round in the grinder

Do you have a plan for how to get back a the Japs - defensive posture until late 42 or a fighting defense all over?

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RE: RIDERS ON THE STORM - Hoepner (A) vs. Trollelite(J) - 10/27/2007 2:18:01 PM

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Hi PzB, there isn't no real plan yet. It's too early to make any committing decision. I'm already studying how to defend Oz and India, cause i'd say that considering the scheldue, he'll be in the position to launch a massive invading operation by the end of Jan 42, when presumibly SRA and DEI will be taken. Luzon will become a kind of a enormous POW camp and will cause him no hurt.
India can be a nasty place to land onto for the Japs but, as you well know, can also be a great auto-victory opportunity.
Another thing he could do...he could go for Russia...but this will leave the Brits without a real threat and so they'll be able to counterattack....
however, it's still to early to say something about that....

Let's see. One thing it's clear: this guys is a very good japanese opponent!

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RE: RIDERS ON THE STORM - Hoepner (A) vs. Trollelite(J) - 10/27/2007 3:37:27 PM

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Do I need to make you an AFB baner?lol

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RE: RIDERS ON THE STORM - Hoepner (A) vs. Trollelite(J) - 10/27/2007 7:25:24 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: rogueusmc

Do I need to make you an AFB baner?lol

No, thanks, my heart will keep on beating for the Japanese Evil Empire!!!!

BANZAI!

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RE: RIDERS ON THE STORM - Hoepner (A) vs. Trollelite(J) - 10/27/2007 7:30:17 PM

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Ok, i gave the orders for the 10th of December.
Seems like that what remains of Dutch surface Fleet is trying to reach Perth in order to be reorganized, while the RN, with the lost of 1 BB, 2 CLs and 2 DDs suffered a worse luck and is now regrouping at Colombo.

In the following posts i'm gonna post few ideas about india and Oz...

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RE: RIDERS ON THE STORM - Hoepner (A) vs. Trollelite(J) - 10/27/2007 7:39:34 PM

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UH, forgot to say that the initial HRs slightly changed...

2.no B-29 under 15000

4.no strategy bomb on resource under 100, and any other thing (oil, heavy industry, aircraft factory,etc) under 50

I hope all strategy bomb is done by level bombers. And at best there is an altitude limitation of 10000 (for 4-e 15000), because all
such missions in wwii are high-altitude area bombing.

There should be no man-power firestorm bombing out of Japan home islands. Politically there is simply unrealistic to make firestorm, say, a phillipine or chinese city, or hongkong, or singapore.

9.No allied units (land, naval or air) can enter soviet territory.

So even air transfer is forbidden. If this should be modified after soviet enter the war, we would discuss later. Don't sortie your red navy (including SS and transports) before they enter the war.

10. Except initial chinese exp.force, only 2 other chinese corps could be changed to southeast asia command and be able to fight in burma and india. There is no restriction to support units, however. Those 2 corps should be announced.

Divisions should not be limited. A corps divided cannot be viewed as division however.

12,Philippine could only be landed on US and local forces.

14. No US corsair units on board carriers before 1, Jan, 1945. There is no restriction to British Corsair units. If Japanese ever use kamikaze before 1945, this restriction would be removed.

Some other HR say not before 1944, I think 1945 is more fair. Anyway there is no limitation of marine fighter squadrons on cv. You could load 80 hellcats in a carrier if you like.

Another limitation is not mentioned, but would be viewed as gamey. That is, using british squadrons on american carriers, and vice versa.

16. Only 6 carriers, 12 cruisers can be reconstructed by allied. Of these, 2 should be used to replace australian cruisers and not allowed to use on US units. Only Heavy cruisers and american "10000-tons" light cruiser could be replaced. Those reconstruced ships should be announced before enter service.

This is what Trollelite suggested and i agreed with him. I only demanded that if Russia is activated i need 30 days in order to deploy my forces ...

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RE: RIDERS ON THE STORM - Hoepner (A) vs. Trollelite(J) - 10/27/2007 8:14:16 PM

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I think you should adopt Japanese tactic against Japan

.. perhaps a bold raid on HI with carriers?

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RE: RIDERS ON THE STORM - Hoepner (A) vs. Trollelite(J) - 10/27/2007 8:17:30 PM

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Well, Pauk, everything can be done....we have a lot of time...if he goes for India or for Oz or for Russia...the pacific will be an american terrain...let's see, first of all i need to save India and Oz and delay him in Burma (even if i think he will skip Burma....i'd skip it if i wanted to go for India...)...then we'll be able to think at what my CVs can do in the pacific

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RE: RIDERS ON THE STORM - Hoepner (A) vs. Trollelite(J) - 10/27/2007 11:10:18 PM

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You guys should make double sure you are running the exact same version. I really think this is the problem with the sync issue. I have not had a sync issue since first release and that was caused by not having the same version installed.

Also make sure that you completely exit WITP between turns.

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RE: RIDERS ON THE STORM - Hoepner (A) vs. Trollelite(J) - 10/28/2007 1:39:14 AM

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Thanks, but we checked and we have the same version...however the sync problem isn't really a problem as long as he sends me the original combat text report...

12/10/41
Another bad day for the demo-plutocratic western allies!
KB and Baby KB keep on sinking my ships. Searly 200 ships will probably be sunk in this opening campaign...a disaster!!!!
His subs are doing a great job, sending to the bottom those ships who are not attacked by his air forces...really cannot do anything to stop this slaughter at the moment.

Now, with the conquest of Merak he has a foothold in Java....at least this phase will end quickly.
Manila has been bombed again. My air force has been completely destroyed and now nothing can stop him from bombing Luzon back to stoneage

I do not know wether these heavy losses in terms of ships will slow down my future movements...really hope not too much, considering that the war fleets are almost intact.
However, this opening move for Japan puts him in a great advantage. With the double port attack on turn 1 and with KB in the Java sea there's no way the allies can master a defence in the SRA-DEI. It's true that the pacific it's completely undefended, but the US need some time to be ready to do anything....well, i learnt something this time

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RE: RIDERS ON THE STORM - Hoepner (A) vs. Trollelite(J) - 10/28/2007 12:10:39 PM

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Here's the first plan to defend India...

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RE: RIDERS ON THE STORM - Hoepner (A) vs. Trollelite(J) - 10/28/2007 2:50:05 PM

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The intel screen after 5 turns in war....

As you can see we mainly lost ships...nearly 1000 points for 140 ships..most of them are AKs,APs,TKs, along with 12 subs (at Manila), the PoW, 2 CLs, 5 minor DDs...

The air force has been badly hit but not that much, we can still hold our ground.
Most of RAF and US air force has been withdrawed from the front line and they're now reassebling in India or in Oz.
At the same time the first major convoys are leaving West Coast in order to bring supplies and fuel to Australia.

In Oz i'm moving my Australian Command attached forces to Perth and to Alice Spring, in order to defend the most exposed flank of the continent.

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RE: RIDERS ON THE STORM - Hoepner (A) vs. Trollelite(J) - 10/28/2007 3:08:48 PM

Gen.Hoepner

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Oh, 1 more thing: in the pacific, Wake still holds. His ships withdrew from the island and now his 2 units are trapped there. Moving 2 units to reinforce the island that could be become a nail in the japanese eastern defensive perimeter. If i manage to reinforce Wake with units and planes, with the majority of the japanese army involved in far away campaigns, i will be able, in few months, to threaten his pacific communication lines.
This game is going to be interesting....

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RE: RIDERS ON THE STORM - Hoepner (A) vs. Trollelite(J) - 10/28/2007 3:53:54 PM

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Great to see you back, GH!

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At the second day of war seems clear that my opponent is avoiding a mass invasion of Luzon in order to be able to take DEI and SRA sooner. the Whole Borneo is already in his hands and in few days will surely be full of Betties and Nells that will interrupt any supply route to Manila. As i always say, Luzon doesn't need to be conquered at the beginning: encirle it and proceed, it will starve anyway Good move Trollelite!

I'm not so sure this is a good idea. You're playing CHS, and Luzon has 500 resource centers - they generate 15,000 supplies per month! Your troops are NOT going to starve - in fact, that should be enough to start a strategic bombing campaign with 4Es from Clark Field. Meanwhile, you can rest your troops, let them fill out and build forts. It's going to be really tough for him to take Manila if he waits a couple of months...

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13. No allied offensive action in northern pacific before soviet enter war. They can take back any amercian territory occupied by japanese, however.

Can you explain this house rule to me?

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RE: RIDERS ON THE STORM - Hoepner (A) vs. Trollelite(J) - 10/28/2007 4:07:17 PM

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ORIGINAL: VSWG

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13. No allied offensive action in northern pacific before soviet enter war. They can take back any amercian territory occupied by japanese, however.

Can you explain this house rule to me?

I cannot explain. Under my point of view in this game the jap player is really disadvantaged, so it's up to him to decide the HRs. Trollelite suggested it and i agreed. That's all.
In fact it doesn't have much sense but....

AFTER ACTION REPORTS FOR 12/11/41

Another tough day for the allies.
KB entered in indian ocean and managed to sink more 20 ships that were trying to reach Perth....

What a bloody loss of men and equipment

In Manila he managed to sink what remained of the PI merchant fleet. the fighter PI force managed to take down an unescorted sally, but that's all

For what concerns Luzon...For the moment he can close whatever AF i keep open in Luzon, so there's no chance of bringing there any bombing force. Luzon will be conquered, as soon as he finishes with SRA he can master a great number of men to take Luzon...i knowbecause i always do the same playing as Japan in CHS...believe me, placing a bunch of bombers at Takao will ensure that every single american unit in Luzon remains suppressed, so then it's an easy task for the skilled japanese divisions....

In China nothing moves for the moment....

I'm slowly withdrawing the ducth air force from the SRA...probably within 3 turns every single ducth plane will be safe on the northern coast of Oz.

These subs are incredibly dangerous

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Sub attack at 22,46

Japanese Ships
SS I-153

Allied Ships
AK Kalgan, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

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Sub attack at 22,44

Japanese Ships
SS I-162

Allied Ships
AK Darvel, Torpedo hits 3, on fire, heavy damage

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Sub attack at 22,49

Japanese Ships
SS I-158, hits 1

Allied Ships
AK St. Quentin, Shell hits 1

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Day Air attack on TF, near Manila at 43,52

Japanese aircraft
G3M Nell x 56
G4M1 Betty x 52
Ki-21-II Sally x 35

Allied aircraft
P-40E Warhawk x 12

Japanese aircraft losses
G3M Nell: 2 damaged
Ki-21-II Sally: 1 destroyed, 1 damaged

Allied Ships
AK Capillo, Bomb hits 2, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage
AK Compagnia Filipinas, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AK Candesa, Torpedo hits 1, on fire, heavy damage
AK Corregidor, Torpedo hits 5, on fire, heavy damage
AK Paz, Bomb hits 1, Torpedo hits 4, on fire, heavy damage

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Sub attack at 22,44

Japanese Ships
SS I-162

Allied Ships
AP Manoora, Torpedo hits 2, on fire, heavy damage

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