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RE: Admirals Edition Land Thread - 2/18/2012 1:08:07 AM   
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RE: Admirals Edition Land Thread - 6/23/2012 8:22:21 PM   
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RE: Admirals Edition Land Thread - 6/23/2012 11:15:10 PM   
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Mesing about with the Allied AI anyone played v it can give feedback ??

Looking for specific good and bad things


At the moment I play your ironman Japan(the one which is supoused to play Japan) scenario. If you are interested I could give you some saves. Game is end 43.

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Philippine Army OOB Update - 6/27/2012 5:53:52 PM   
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Status: offline 		Getting paid (!) to research on the Philippine Army leads me to post the following update to an earlier post:

Division strengths on 31 October 1941 (source – Rpt, Commonwealth of the Philippines, Army headquarters, Manila, Office G-1 Division, dtd 21 Nov 41)

11th Division – 334 officers and 2514 enlisted men
21st Division – 407 officers and 2774 enlisted men
31st Division – 382 officers and 2629 enlisted men
41st Division – 405 officers and 2891 enlisted men
51st Division – 373 officers and 2831 enlisted men
61st Division – 397 officers and 2625 enlisted men
71st Division – 395 officers and 2705 enlisted men
81st Division – 387 officers and 2379 enlisted men
91st Division – 287 officers and 2681 enlisted men
101st Division – 303 officers and 2000 enlisted men
Other inducted units – 458 officers and 32819 enlisted men (note: PA still in mobilization process at this date)


1st Philippine Army (Regular) Infantry Division – Brig. Gen. Fidel V. Segundo (later Brig Gen Kearie L. Berry)
Chief of Staff – Lt Col Santiago Guevera
Senior US Instructor – Maj. Ralph E. Rumbold
1st Infantry Regiment –Maj Alfredo M. Santos, later Maj O.S. McCollum, Col K.L. Berry
Senior US Instructors – Capt Eugene Laird, Capt Kassell
S-2 – Lt. Alfredo Filert
1-1 Inf – Lt Godofredo F. Mendoza, later Maj Alfredo M. Santos
2-1 Inf – Capt Honorato Ramos
3-1 Inf – Lt Felicisimo Aguinaldo
2d Infantry Regiment – (remained on Mindanao due to lack of shipping) Col. Calixto Duque
3d Infantry Regiment – Capt Vivencio Orias Note: formed 19 December 1941. Later Lt Col K.L. Berry (5 Jan 42)
Senior Instructor – Lt Col Kearie L. Berry (RA)
Other U.S. Instructors – Maj Howard Hinman, Capt Harold Stevenson (USAR)
1st Artillery Regiment – Not activated
1st Engineer Battalion – Capt Adamin A. Tallow
Note 1: This division was formed in December 1941 from officer cadets, retired Philippine scouts, and odds and ends.
Note 2: 2d Regiment’s strength in March 1942 was 800 officers and men.
Note 3: In April 1942 the divisional strength included 225 officers and 4300 enlisted men.

2d Philippine Army (Regular) Infantry Division (PC) – Brig. Gen. Guillermo B. Francisco
2d Division US Senior Instructor – Col. Edwin O’Connor
1st Philippine Constabulary (PC) Regiment – Brig. Gen. Simeon de Jesus?
US Senior Instructor – Lt. Col. Irvin Alexander
2d Philippine Constabulary Regiment – Lt Col Alejandro Garcia
1-2 Constabulary –
2-2 Constabulary – Maj. Diogracias U. Tenasas
4th Philippine Constabulary Regiment – Col Mariano N. Castaneda
Note 1: As of Apr 42 the 2d Division consisted of 325 officers and 5700 enlisted men. The 1st Regiment had been inducted into USAFFE on 15 October 1941, followed by the 2d and 3d Regiments on 17 November and 12 December 1941 respectively. The 4th PC Regiment was mobilized on 29 December 1941.

Theoretical MTOE for Philippine Army Reserve Divisions (Source: War Plan Orange 3 dtd April 1941), See Enclosure 2, Exhibit B, pp. 1 – 2

Division total strength
444 Officers
7199 Enlisted

Division Headquarters – 18/33 (with 21 pistols and 28 rifles)
HHC, Service Troops – 14/126 (with 26 pistols and 110 rifles)
Motor Transport Bn – 10/320 (14 pistols, 149 rifles, 4 thirty caliber MGs, 85 requisitioned trucks)
Medical Bn – 28/463 (2 pistols)
Engineer Bn – 22/432 (44 pistols, 394 rifles, 16 BARs)
Signal Company – 3/90 (9 pistols and 84 rifles)
X3 Infantry Regiment (each) – 92/1620 (107 pistols, 1437 rifles, 36 BARs, 2 fifty caliber MGs, six 3-inch mortars, 24 thirty caliber MGs)
Note 1: each infantry battalion has 24/455 (29 pistols, 422 rifles, 12 BARs, 8 thirty caliber MGs). Battalions include three rifle companies, a machinegun company, and a headquarters company.
Note 2: Regimental Combat Company has 3/75 (4 pistols, 66 rifles, six 3-inch mortars, and 2 fifty caliber MGs)
Field Artillery Regiment – 57/742 (78 pistols, 688 rifles, eight 2.95 inch howitzers (1st Bn); sixteen 75-mm cannon (2d and 3d Battalions)
Note 3: In original plan the FA Regt was supposed to have a 2.95-inch Bn, 81-mm Bn and AAA Battalion (4 x fifty caliber and 4 x thirty caliber MGs)


Commanding General, 11th (Reserve) Infantry Division – Brig. Gen. William E. Brougher
Chief of Staff – Col. Moran
Division Signal Officer – Lt. Col. Blackburn
G-3 – Lt Col Leonilo Tan
G-4 - Maj Budo Dangwa?
11th Infantry Regiment – Col. Glen R. Townsend (moderate competence)
11th Regiment Executive Officer – Maj. Russell W. Volckmann
1/11 Infantry –
2/11 Infantry – Maj. Helmert J. Duisterhof (awarded DSC – came from 57th Infantry)
3/11 Infantry – Capt. Antonio Alejandro
12th Infantry Regiment –
1/12 Infantry –
2/12 Infantry –
3/12 Infantry – Maj. Martin Moses
13th Infantry Regiment – Col. Green (?)
1/13 Infantry – Maj. Arthur Noble
2/13 Infantry –
3/13 Infantry –
14th Infantry (created Feb 42) – Lt Col Guillermo Z. Nakar (initial o/h strength 62 Officers and 960 EM with 143 Constabulary attached)
11th Field Artillery Regiment – Col. James C. Hughes
11th Engineer Battalion – Capt. Amado N. Bautista
Note 1: 13th Infantry Regiment disbanded early in the Philippine campaign to provide replacements for 11th and 12th Regiments.
Note 2: Amado Bautista Diary, dtd 4 Feb 46, states: “On 7 December, the 11th Division headquarters was being organized at Manaoag, Pangasinan. The 11th Division sector was as follows: From Calmay River exclusive, Dagupan and Calasiao inclusive, Malasiqui exclusive, Alcala inclusive, extending northward along Union Shores and Ilocos Coast and with an outpost of one infantry battalion at Tuguegarao, Cagayan. The main strength was concentrated at Pangasinan. The 11th Engineer Battalion, mobilized and fully activated about two months before, was in division reserve at Camp Carayungan, less Company C at Manaoag. [Engineer] Units in full strength, almost completely equipped organically, but with only five rounds of ammunition per man borrowed from the Constabulary Company at Tuyag.”

Commanding General, 21st (Reserve) Infantry Division – Brig. Gen. Mateo M. Capinpin
CG aide de camp – 1st Lt Primavito San Augustin
G-2 Lt Ferdinand Marcos
Senior American Instructor – Colonel Ray M. O’Day
21st Infantry Regiment – Lt. Col. Valentin Valasco
21st PA Regiment US Senior Instructor – Col. William A. Wapperstein
1/21 Infantry – Maj. Robert Besson
2/21 Infantry – Capt. Philip A. Meier
3/21 Infantry – Capt. Robert Pennell
22d Infantry – Major Joaquin D. Esperitu
22d Infantry US Senior Instructor – Col. Jacob E. Uhrig
23d Infantry – Major Liberato Littaua
US Senior Instructor – Col. Wallace A. Mead
3/23 – Capt. H.E. Wandell
21st Artillery Regiment – Lt. Col. Nemisio Catalan (three battalions of 75-mm cannon vice 2 battalions of 75-mm and one battalion of 2.95-inch mountain howitzers)
Regimental XO – Capt Luis A. Villa-Real
21st FA Senior US Instructor – Col. Richard C. Mallon้e
Regimental Signal Officer – Maj Stanley B. Bonner
1/21 FA – Lieutenant Valdez
2/21 FA – Lieutenant Mercado
3/21 FA – Lieutenant Acosta
21st Engineer Battalion – Capt. Atilano F. Montesa (KIA)/Capt. Louis Bartholomees
Note 1: The 21st Infantry Division “acquired” six modern 81-mm mortars from the Field Artillery School at Camp Del Pilar.

Commanding General, 31st (Reserve) Infantry Division – Brig. Gen. Clifford Bluemel
Chief of Staff – Col. Pastor Martelino
G-1 – Lt. Col. Jose Andrada
G-2 – Maj. Salvador T. Villa
G-3 – Maj. Pedro Deang
G-4 – Maj. Napoleon D. Valleriano
Motor Transport Officer – Capt Ramon Magsaysay
31st Infantry Regiment – Col. John W. Irwin
1/31 Infantry –
2/31 Infantry – Lt. Col. Cyril Q. Marron
3/31 Infantry –
32d Infantry Regiment – Col. Edwin H. Johnson
33d Infantry Regiment – Major Stanley Holmes
1/33 Infantry – Maj. Howard C. Crawford
2/33 Infantry – Capt. Lloyd M. Buchel
3/33 Infantry – Capt. Robert M. Chapin
31st Artillery Regiment –
Note 1: On the average, there was only a single Browning Automatic Rifle in each infantry company, only eight 30-caliber water cooled machineguns in each heavy weapons company, and two 50-caliber machineguns for each regiment. There were no modern 81-mm mortars, only the 3-inch Stokes mortar of WW1 vintage. It was estimated that the 3-inch mortars had a seventy percent dud rate. Ammunition for the division’s 60-mm mortars was never delivered.
Note 2: The 31st Field Artillery Regiment did not finish organizing until 26 December 1941 and possessed only two 75-mm gun batteries.

Commanding General, 41st (Reserve) Infantry Division – Brig. Gen. Vicente P. Lim
Senior American Instructor – Colonel Malcolm V. Fortier
Aide de camp – 3d Lt Ernesto Santos
G-1 – Capt Mamerto R. Montemayor
G-2 – Capt Isagani V. Campo
G-3 – Capt Dionisio Ojeda
G-3 Advisor - Lt Col Peter Calyer
G-4 – Cpt Jose Montelibano
Medical Bn – Maj Hospicio L. Solidum
41st Infantry Regiment – Lt. Col. Silvino Gallardo
Senior American advisor – Col. Loren A. Wetherby
1/41 Infantry – Capt. Jacobo Zobel
2/41 Infantry – Capt Delfin E. Argao
3/41 Infantry – Capt Cornelio Maraiano
42d Infantry Regiment – Lt. Col. Claro B. Lizardo
Senior American advisor – Col. Edward C. Atkinson
1/42 Infantry – Capt Jose R. Razon
2/42 Infantry – Capt Artemio Rillo
3/42 Infantry – Capt Amado Magtoto
43d Infantry Regiment – Lt Col Emmanuel Baja
Senior American advisor – Lt. Col Eugene T. Lewis
1/43 – Capt Salvador T. Piccio
2/43 – Lt Demetrio Mendoza
3/43 – Capt Adolfo Castillo
41st Artillery Regiment – Lt Col Amado Martelino
41st FA Senior Advisor – Lt Col. Arthur P. Moore
41st Engineer Battalion – Capt. Manuel S. Tinio
Note 1: The division’s regiments had received the following amount of post-mobilization training: 41st (five weeks), 42d (thirteen weeks), and 43d (none).
Note 2: Three BARs issued to each rifle company. The only anti-tank armament in the division consisted of 50-caliber water cooled machineguns (M12?) that none of the American advisors were familiar with. The division had its full complement of sixteen 75-mm cannon and eight 2.95-inch mountain howitzers.

Commanding General, 51st (Reserve) Infantry Division – Brig. Gen. Albert M. Jones
Chief of Staff – Col. Stuart C. MacDonald/Col. Edwin E. Aldridge
51st Infantry Regiment – Col. Loren P. Stewart
52d Infantry Regiment – Colonel Virgil N. Cordero (two battalions)
53d Infantry Regiment – Col. John R. Boatwright
1/53 Inf –
2/53 Inf –
3/53d Inf – Maj Elliot C. Babcock
51st Field Artillery Regiment – Col. Hamilton R. Searight
Note 1: The FA regiment only possessed two batteries of 75-mm cannon.

Commanding General, 61st (Reserve) Infantry Division – Brig. Gen. Bradford G. Chenowyth (he replaced Brig. Gen. Walter F. Sharp)
Chief of Staff – Col. John W. Thompson (replaced by Col. Irvin C. Scudder when Brig. Gen. Chenowyth arrived before Scudder was himself replaced by Col. Roger Hilsman)
G-1 – Lt. Col. Lope Quial
G-2 – Lt. Col. Nicanor Velarde
G-3 – Maj Macario Peralta
G-4 – Lt Col William Gemperle
Division Engineer – Maj Claude Fertig
61st Infantry Regiment – Col. Eugene H. Mitchell
62d Infantry Regiment – Lt. Col. Allen P. Thayer (Fitzgerald says 61st Regt Cdr)
63d Infantry Regiment – Col. Albert F. Christie
64th Infantry Regiment (PA) (Provisional) –
65th Infantry Regiment (PA) (Provisional) –
61st Engineer Battalion – Lt Col Leopoldo Relunia
61st Artillery Regiment – Col. Hiram W. Tarkington
One battery with three 2.95-inch mountain howitzers?? (per memorandum for record by Lt. Eugene E. Greeson, Subj: “The Visayan-Mindanao Force”, dtd 30 Jan 45, filed at CMH)
Cebu Military Police Regiment – Lt. Col. Howard J. Edmunds (ultimately consisting of eleven companies [one regimental HHC, two battalions with eight rifle and two heavy weapons companies] with strength ranging from 114 to 89 personnel. They possessed Enfield Rifles and four Browning Water-cooled MMGs per company – the weapons were requisitioned from the four college “ROTC” detachments on Cebu). Heavy Weapons Companies: Company D had eight 30-caliber water cooled, one .50-caliber machinegun and two Stokes mortars. Company H (formed from a cadre from Company D (heavy weapons) possessed three water cooled and five air cooled .30-caliber machineguns (the latter were salvaged from a crashed P-40 Warhawk).

Commanding General, 71st (Reserve) Infantry Division – Brig. Gen. Clyde A. Selleck (later relieved by 26th Cavalry Regiment commander)
Chief of Staff – Col Saldivar Reyes
71st Infantry Regiment – Lt. Col. Donald Van N. Bonnett
1/71st Infantry – Capt Guillermo Z. Nakar
2/71st Infantry –
3/71st Infantry –
72d Infantry Regiment – Lt. Col. Irwin Compton (vice Col Virgil N. Cordero?)
73d Infantry Regiment – (remained on Mindinao due to lack of shipping) Lt. Col. Robert H. Vesey
71st Artillery Regiment – Lt. Col. Halstead C. Fowler

Commanding General, 81st (Reserve) Infantry Division – Brig. Gen. Guy S. Fort
G-? Lt Col Alejandro Suarez
81st Infantry Regiment – Lt Col Ruperto K. Kangelon (Fitzgerald)
82d Infantry Regiment – Lt. Col. David
1/82d Infantry – Capt. Mammon Sharp
2/82d Infantry –
3/82d Infantry –
83d Infantry Regiment – Maj. William Rogers
1/83d Infantry – Maj. William McClanahan (replaced by Capt. Lyle Hardin)
2/83d Infantry – Capt. Sharp (?)
3/83d Infantry – Lt. Col. Arthur J. Grimes
84th Infantry Regiment (Provisional) –
81st Artillery Regiment – Lt. Col. John P. Woodbridge
3d Philippine Constabulary Regiment – Brig Gen Simeon de Jesus
Note 1: The “Visayan – Mindanao Force” (commanded by Col. Ben-Hur Chastaine) consisted of 3rd Infantry Regiment (Philippine Constabulary), 81st Infantry Regiment (Philippine Army), Co. A, 81st Medical Battalion, Agusan Provisional Battalion (PA), Agusan Constabulary Battalion, Surigao Provisional Battalion (PA & PC) and Headquarters (Provisional) Agusan Sector (PA). The PC Regiment was responsible for defending Cagayan and the PA Regiment (-) responsible for Davao. The 3/81 Infantry (Capt. J.O. Stensland) and Agusan Provisional Battalion defended Butuan Bay. The Surigao Provisional Battalion defended the Surigao Peninsula. The Agusan Constabulary Battalion controlled the movement of the civilian population and conducted rear area security. Source: Operations Order, USAFFE, Hqs Agusan Sector, Gingoog, Misamis, SUBJ: War Plans – Agusan Sector, dtd 27 Feb 42. Original at CMH.
Note 3 – The 81st Artillery Regiment had at least one section of 2.95-inch mountain howitzers.

Commanding General, 91st (Reserve) Infantry Division – Brig. Gen. Luther R. Stevens
91st Infantry Regiment – Col. Edgar A. Keltner
92d Infantry Regiment – Col. John H. Rodman
92d Infantry Executive Officer – Col. James D. Carter
93d Infantry Regiment – (remained on Mindanao due to lack of shipping) Col William F. Dalton (?)
91st Artillery Regiment –
91st Engineer Battalion – Capt. Antonio P. Chanco
C & E Companies, 43d Infantry (PS) – Maj. Allen L. Peck (reactivated and organized with soldiers from the 45th Infantry (PS) on detached duty in Zamboanga).
Note: Artillery consisted of two batteries with eight portee 2.95-inch mountain howitzers.

Commanding General, 101st (Reserve) Infantry Division – Brig. Gen. Joseph P. Vachon (replaced by Col Carter R. McLennan when former became Cotobato-Davao defense force CG)
G-2 – Capt Juan B. Guevara
101st Infantry Regiment – Col. Russell J. Nelson
1/101 Infantry –
2/101 Infantry – Lt. Col. Roger B. Hilsman
3/101 Infantry – Lt. Col. Howard N. Frissell
102d Infantry Regiment – Col. William P. Morse (?)
103d Infantry Regiment – Maj. Joseph R. Webb
104th Infantry Regiment?? – Mentioned in Morton “Fall of the Philippines” on p. 511.
101st Artillery Regiment – Lt. Col. A. Quintard
Note 1: Although some accounts state that no artillery was ever provided to the division, the trio of mountain howitzers listed for the 61st Division may have belonged to the 101st Artillery Regiment.
Note 2: Lt. Greeson writes: For the purpose of defense the island was divided into six sectors. General Vachon commanded the Cotabato-Davao sector; General Fort the Lanao sector; Col. Morse, the Cagayan sector; and Col. Ben-Hur Chastaine, the Agusan sector. The Zamboanga sector was commanded initially by Col. Dalton, but in February 1942 this command was given to Col. Wilson and Col. Dalton assumed command of the Force training school. In February a Zone of the Interior was created with Col. Frissell in command. In the Visayan Islands, General Chynoweth commanded the island of Panay; Col. Hilsman, the Island of Negros; Col. Scudder the island of Cebu; and Major Jones, the islands of Samar and Leyte.

Commanding General, 102d (Reserve) Infantry Division – Col. William P. Morse
103d Infantry Regiment (see 101st Division)
61st Artillery Regiment (see 61st Division)
81st Artillery Regiment (see 81st Division)
Note 1: Would be reorganized with the 62d Infantry, 81st Field Artillery, C & E Companies, 43d Infantry (PS) and a 2.95-inch mountain howitzer detachment after its first battle on 3 May 1942.

Provisional PAAC Battalion (fighting as infantry) – Captain Pelagio Cruz


< Message edited by HistoryGuy -- 6/29/2012 6:35:43 PM >

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RE: Philippine Army OOB Update - 6/27/2012 6:29:02 PM   
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Thank you very much.

This is an area in which I have considerable interest and have done some research myself.

Pre-war the 1st "Regular" Division consisted of two organized units - a single infantry battalion and one troop of cavalry - stationed in Manila and used as ceremonial troops. All the rest of the regular army was dispersed in training units, depots, and HQ detachments.

Until the legal limit on Philippine Scouts was expanded in 1940, the small garrisons at Baguio and Zamboanga were formed from a battalion of the 45th Infantry (PS). With the increased size (to 12,000 if memory serves), these four companies were detachd from the 45th and used to form the 43rd Infanty (PS). A new battalion was formed to bring the 45th up to strength - consolidated around Manila.

The mini "Battalion" HQs were established, with companies A and B at Baguio and companies C and D at Zamboanga.

The Baguio unit was fragmented, with most of the unit attempting to withdraw with Col. Horan and the rest joining Troop C of the 26th Cavalry to become guerillas. Very few of Col Horan's detachment made it to Bataan. Most were lost or melted away into the jungle - many resurfacing later in guerilla units.

The Zamboanga unit was attached to the 101st Division - first as advisors at various levels and later consolidated as (I believe) a component of the 102nd Division. A personal memoir of one of the company commanders - (then) Captain John H. McGee - details most of this.




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RE: Philippine Army OOB Update - 6/29/2012 6:44:32 PM   
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What is tough to track is the merry-go-round of commanders as Filipino officers were in many cases replaced by their instructor advisors. Both the 21st and 41st Divisions (Capinpin and Lim) were officered by all Filipinos, as was the 1st Regular Division (in name only). Right now I am working on a 47 page chapter that includes an analysis of what occurred pre-Bataan by comparing actual events with the Philippine War Plan Orange 3 (which we have a complete copy of here at work). Both WPO - 3 and MacArthur's plan stressed defending the beaches. The former, however, is a bit more realistic in predicting that a delaying action would eventually result. My opinion is that if MacArthur had not tinkered with Grunert's plan, things might have gone a little better in the opening days because the beaches would have been defended by more American troops (with better leadership, weapons, and training). Folks tend to foget that Philippine Army Divisions were even smaller than the understrength Philippine Division. But then again losing your whole air force and thereafter fighting under conditions of enemy air supremacy is something that MacArthur and WPO - 3 did not anticipate. We also have the Japanese history and from reading it they had some big problems (caused by weather and sea conditions) in Lingayen Gulf.

I have modded the regular scenario with an "Enchanced Philippines" version with more weapons, equipment for the PA and Philippine Department (but not too much) and better leadership values for the US officers who commanded Philippine Reserve Divisions. Looking at what they accomplished, most did fairly well in a very stressful situation. I also plan to build upon my "Enhanced Philippines" by beefing up the Brits in Malaya (a bit more airpower) and Dutch in NEI (same - more planes purchased from the US arrive sooner) in addition to redeploying the British forces in Northern Malaya and US forces on Luzon IAW WPO - 3.

Best,

Mark R.

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RE: Philippine Army OOB Update - 6/29/2012 7:44:04 PM   
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Sounds good, looking forward to seeing this scenario!

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RE: Philippine Army OOB Update - 7/26/2012 5:43:03 AM   
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I noticed some things with strategic Road movement in both Scenario 1 and the Babes scenarios.

As you know, some Allied nations' ground units can do Strategic OpMode movement along Main Roads. I've noticed that in Scenario 1, USMC units can not do so. I'm pretty sure that's an error. In Babes, US Navy units can not do so (but they can in Scenario 1, so I'm pretty sure that's an error in babes.

I figure the best thing is to check with you on which nations are supposed to have this ability (Strategic OpMode movement on Main Roads). Do you have a list of which Allied nations are supposed to have this ability? There is no such list in the manual.

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RE: Philippine Army OOB Update - 7/26/2012 6:17:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		It’s not anything in the scenarios. Babes is working just fine for me and the Babes versions available on the website haven’t changed for months. And scenario 1 hasen’t changed for two years.

There is an instability in the executable program somewhere. It used to be a nationality check with some exclusions. Side 1: Allies, and Nationality Type: All, except 12-Chinese, 14-Indian, 15-Commonwealth, and I forget about 16-Philippines. There was another check having to do with China area.

This should go to michaelm on the tech support forum.

I sent you a PM too.

Matt

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RE: Philippine Army OOB Update - 7/26/2012 6:20:48 PM   
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ORIGINAL: US87891

It’s not anything in the scenarios. Babes is working just fine for me and the Babes versions available on the website haven’t changed for months. And scenario 1 hasen’t changed for two years.

There is an instability in the executable program somewhere. It used to be a nationality check with some exclusions. Side 1: Allies, and Nationality Type: All, except 12-Chinese, 14-Indian, 15-Commonwealth, and I forget about 16-Philippines. There was another check having to do with China area.

This should go to michaelm on the tech support forum.

I sent you a PM too.

Matt

Thanks! I figured I would get a list from Andy and then test both Scen 1 and Babes then post the results, but you are ahead of me with that knowledge. I'll get it to Michael.

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RE: Philippine Army OOB Update - 7/26/2012 6:31:47 PM   
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ORIGINAL: US87891

I sent you a PM too.

Matt


No PM received. Sent you one with my email.

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RE: Philippine Army OOB Update - 7/26/2012 7:29:09 PM   
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ORIGINAL: witpqs
No PM received. Sent you one with my email.

Solid copy. And done.

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RE: Philippine Army OOB Update - 7/27/2012 3:24:23 PM   
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Here is Michael's reply about the code. Can you verify this is as designed - I always thought it included all American units (which would add USMC and USN to the list below) and did not include India?

quote:

Here are the unit nationality that can use strategic road (RD+):
NAT_USA
NAT_AUS
NAT_NZ
NAT_BRIT
NAT_IND
NAT_CAN

Been that way since start.

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RE: Philippine Army OOB Update - 7/28/2012 6:52:25 PM   
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RE: Philippine Army OOB Update - 7/28/2012 8:43:52 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Andy Mac

Cannot remember but probably should include USMC and USN

Thanks. If you can verify, please communicate that to Michael?

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RE: Philippine Army OOB Update - 8/18/2012 6:23:59 PM   
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ORIGINAL: witpqs

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ORIGINAL: Andy Mac

Cannot remember but probably should include USMC and USN

Thanks. If you can verify, please communicate that to Michael?

Quiet little bump.

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RE: Philippine Army OOB Update - 8/18/2012 8:08:40 PM   
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RE: Philippine Army OOB Update - 8/18/2012 8:36:59 PM   
witpqs


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ORIGINAL: Andy Mac

its on the list but fair warnoing not top of the list for fixed and we have limited cycles

Thanks!

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RE: Philippine Army OOB Update - 8/31/2012 9:01:13 PM   
Skyros


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Status: offline 		Not sure if this is the right place or if it has been reported, but it looks like the 81mm (M) Haftrack ID#937 upgrades to a device 468 which is not used it has a 99/99 availability date.

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RE: Philippine Army OOB Update - 10/8/2012 3:31:04 AM   
pnzrgnral

 

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Status: offline 		Found something interesting doing some research, and I realized I never saw it in the Allied OOB. Also did a forum search and found no reference. 1st Filipino Infantry Regiment (Seperate) was a US Army infantry regiment which departed CA in Apr 44, arrived New Guinea several weeks later, and took part in (you guessed it) the Phillipines campaign, including Leyte and Samar. Has anyone noticed the lack of inclusion of this unit within the OOB? Was it not included for some reason? Just curious. Thanks in advance for any responses.

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RE: Philippine Army OOB Update - 10/8/2012 5:36:34 AM   
rjopel

 

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Status: offline 		I have the 1st Filipino in the Dec 8 Full campaign. It is not in the DaBigBabes 7 Dec start game I'm playing. So I think it depends on the scenario author.

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RE: Philippine Army OOB Update - 10/8/2012 10:50:10 PM   
Blackhorse


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Status: offline 		In stock AE, unit 5267 is the 1st Filipino Infantry Regiment, arriving in San Francisco on 6-Apr-44.

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RE: Philippine Army OOB Update - 10/9/2012 10:51:21 PM   
pnzrgnral

 

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Status: offline 		rjopel, Blackhorse, thanks for the responses. Just goes to show one should look at the reinforcements before relying on one's game memory. I guess it's like most IT techs when asked why someone's monitor is blank - "Did you turn it on or plug it in?" I'll crawl back under my rock in shame now

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RE: Philippine Army OOB Update - 11/24/2012 11:11:46 AM   
btbw

 

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Status: offline 		Japanese 25cm type 41 CD gun
In Scenario 2 gun have range 13k yards when in really had 27k yards. Why so much decrease?

< Message edited by btbw -- 11/24/2012 11:14:20 AM >

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RE: Philippine Army OOB Update - 11/26/2012 8:37:49 PM   
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Status: offline 		Device 1137 90mm M2 DP Gun have pool of 50, but it begins production at 4305, and is upgrade for 1136 90mm M1A1 AA Gun, which have pool of 0.

Those pools probably should be exchanged.

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RE: Philippine Army OOB Update - 11/26/2012 11:56:22 PM   
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ORIGINAL: inqistor

Device 1137 90mm M2 DP Gun have pool of 50, but it begins production at 4305, and is upgrade for 1136 90mm M1A1 AA Gun, which have pool of 0.

Those pools probably should be exchanged.


Logically, I can see why one would think that, but the in-game pools are correct.

The "pool" for the early-model M1A1 AA is a "convoy" unit that arrives on July 1, 1942, then disbands. The "convoy" includes 100 of the heavy anti-aircraft guns.

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RE: Philippine Army OOB Update - 11/27/2012 1:37:10 PM   
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ORIGINAL: btbw

Japanese 25cm type 41 CD gun
In Scenario 2 gun have range 13k yards when in really had 27k yards. Why so much decrease?


Error/typo

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RE: Philippine Army OOB Update - 11/27/2012 2:42:27 PM   
btbw

 

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ORIGINAL: Kereguelen

Error/typo

Don think so. I bet it special action.
As i see some japan naval guns had lower range then had. It going from wrong reports which based on some old type gun mounts and wrong-crossing guns of same caliber.

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RE: Philippine Army OOB Update - 12/3/2012 5:34:13 PM   
btbw

 

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Status: offline 		Scenario 2
Many Armored Cars have wrong range.
For example
Alvis-Straussler Armoured Car have range 2!!!! Same as SU-85/100/122 or T-34/85. So how MG have same range like 85-100-122mm AT gun????
Vickers power?
Many examples....

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RE: Philippine Army OOB Update - 12/3/2012 10:38:55 PM   
margeorg

 

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Status: offline 		Hmm,

Iดm not familiar with the armoured car mentioned here, but generally spoken heavy MGs could indeed fire at long ranges. F.e. the german MG-42 (when mounted on a tripod as a heavy MG) was able to fire at ranges up to 2200m, thus overshooting own forces. The bullets reached heights of more than 30m in flight. By using MGs like this they could place MG fire f.e. 400m ahead of your own attacking infantry.

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