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RE: Admiral's Edition Air War Thread - 2/13/2009 7:42:51 PM

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RE: Admiral's Edition Air War Thread - 2/14/2009 4:15:09 AM

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Could we get a look at the some of the new plane graphics? I would love to see the different Hurricane types and the observation (O-47, O-49) types.
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RE: Admiral's Edition Air War Thread - 2/14/2009 12:36:12 PM

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Could we get a look at the some of the new plane graphics? I would love to see the different Hurricane types and the observation (O-47, O-49) types.
Thanks

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Seriously, either ways ok, thanks for all the hard work!

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RE: Admiral's Edition Air War Thread - 2/14/2009 4:15:20 PM

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Will the game actually have those observation planes in other than an abstract way?..I mean, with 40 mile hexes, it would be justified and (to me), a good thing.......

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RE: Admiral's Edition Air War Thread - 2/14/2009 7:23:49 PM

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Yep, they're there.

Plus a whole bunch of other second and third line aircraft.
PT Stearman's anyone?

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RE: Admiral's Edition Air War Thread - 2/19/2009 11:12:32 AM

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Are the instructors and their effect on training still broken?

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RE: Admiral's Edition Air War Thread - 2/19/2009 10:31:58 PM

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It is now possible in AE to see WIA pilots (with 0 kills) in their unit pilots list? or SAIEW?

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RE: Admiral's Edition Air War Thread - 2/19/2009 11:22:55 PM

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Yes.

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RE: Admiral's Edition Air War Thread - 2/19/2009 11:55:41 PM

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Are the F-7 recon version of the B-24 in AE? Not a huge factor but there was a squadron assigned to 6th Recon Group in NG/PI(1943-45) and another assigned to India (1944-45). Certainly not an important aircraft in numbers terms but able to give the Allies a little more Recon punch

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RE: Admiral's Edition Air War Thread - 2/20/2009 2:12:23 AM

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The air unit box has a couple of new types listed.

What is BM?

I assume AB is attack bomber. Is the AD Skyraider an AD? How do they attack? (FBs, DBs and TBs drop to a certain altitude to bomb)

May we see a screen shot of the AD Skyraider box?

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RE: Admiral's Edition Air War Thread - 2/22/2009 8:19:11 PM

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Noticed on the AAR , RAF Sqns being called "No. 67 Sqn RAF" Shouldnt this be plain " 67 Sqn RAF"

As in WITP this was used for all Commonwealth Sqns it ends up looking very "clunky" plus if you try to identify the NZ, Canadian, Ditch or Belgian Sqns or show flights you quickly ran out of space (in WITP at least)

Its very nit picky, and not hard to correct.

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RE: Admiral's Edition Air War Thread - 2/22/2009 9:18:27 PM

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Are the F-7 recon version of the B-24 in AE? Not a huge factor but there was a squadron assigned to 6th Recon Group in NG/PI(1943-45) and another assigned to India (1944-45). Certainly not an important aircraft in numbers terms but able to give the Allies a little more Recon punch

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RE: Admiral's Edition Air War Thread - 2/22/2009 11:27:39 PM

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The air unit box has a couple of new types listed.

What is BM?

Bomber, Medium.

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I assume AB is attack bomber.

Correct.

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Is the AD Skyraider an AD? How do they attack? (FBs, DBs and TBs drop to a certain altitude to bomb)

May we see a screen shot of the AD Skyraider box?

Sorry, no Skyraider.

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RE: Admiral's Edition Air War Thread - 2/22/2009 11:34:04 PM

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Noticed on the AAR , RAF Sqns being called "No. 67 Sqn RAF" � Shouldnt this be plain " 67 Sqn RAF"

As in WITP this was used for all Commonwealth Sqns it ends up looking very "clunky" plus if you try to identify the NZ, Canadian, Ditch or Belgian Sqns or show flights you quickly ran out of space (in WITP at least)

Its very nit picky, and not hard to correct.

I my understanding both are legitimate. Funnily enough we were actually thinking about dropping the "No." to save on letters as much as anything. Letters are hard to come by ye see

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RE: Admiral's Edition Air War Thread - 2/23/2009 8:43:04 AM

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Noticed on the AAR , RAF Sqns being called "No. 67 Sqn RAF" � Shouldnt this be plain " 67 Sqn RAF"

Technically no. The official records and designations use Number 1 Squadron etc.

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RE: Admiral's Edition Air War Thread - 2/24/2009 2:39:18 AM

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Thanks for the reply.

Wouldn't MB be Medium Bomber? The screen shot has both BM and MB.

No Skyraider? Bummer. I thought I had seen a list of new aircraft and it was on it. I reckon that's what the editor is for...

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RE: Admiral's Edition Air War Thread - 2/24/2009 3:04:52 PM

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Wouldn't MB be Medium Bomber? The screen shot has both BM and MB.

Oops, right. BM = level bombers, all.

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RE: Admiral's Edition Air War Thread - 2/24/2009 8:20:30 PM

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Any chance of regaining a MIA pilot (escaped prison, washed up on a beach and is foyund by native girls?)

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RE: Admiral's Edition Air War Thread - 2/24/2009 9:24:09 PM

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If he's smart (or named Yossarian) he'll make sure that the native girls never mention him to the authorities...

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RE: Admiral's Edition Air War Thread - 2/24/2009 9:27:50 PM

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So that's a no?

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RE: Admiral's Edition Air War Thread - 2/26/2009 8:56:23 AM

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Did the Kyushu K 11w make the cut?

(Trainer, Transport, ASW, Kamikaze)

http://www.century-of-flight.net/Aviation%20history/photo_albums/timeline/ww2/Kyushi%20K11W%20Shiragiku.htm

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RE: Admiral's Edition Air War Thread - 2/26/2009 4:55:56 PM

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In Yamato Hugger's AAR, I notice he mentioned that the Japanese "Tabby" doesn't come online until 1944. Why is this? Wasn't it available much earlier in the war? I thought it was used in the New Guinea campaign, for example.

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RE: Admiral's Edition Air War Thread - 2/26/2009 5:39:58 PM

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Did the Kyushu K 11w make the cut?

(Trainer, Transport, ASW, Kamikaze)

http://www.century-of-flight.net/Aviation%20history/photo_albums/timeline/ww2/Kyushi%20K11W%20Shiragiku.htm

Yes.

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RE: Admiral's Edition Air War Thread - 2/26/2009 5:59:38 PM

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In Yamato Hugger's AAR, I notice he mentioned that the Japanese "Tabby" doesn't come online until 1944. Why is this? Wasn't it available much earlier in the war? I thought it was used in the New Guinea campaign, for example.

only very very few of them, but I agree if it was available perhaps we should be able to produce it...

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RE: Admiral's Edition Air War Thread - 2/26/2009 6:14:22 PM

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Did the Kyushu K 11w make the cut?

(Trainer, Transport, ASW, Kamikaze)

http://www.century-of-flight.net/Aviation%20history/photo_albums/timeline/ww2/Kyushi%20K11W%20Shiragiku.htm

Yes.

Wow!..Thank you...

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RE: Admiral's Edition Air War Thread - 2/26/2009 6:32:20 PM

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So after aeons, finally the Wildcat was been beaten in the discipline most ugly plane ever been used in a game...

Hail to the new King

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RE: Admiral's Edition Air War Thread - 2/26/2009 6:50:56 PM

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So the TB-3 is sexy ?

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RE: Admiral's Edition Air War Thread - 2/26/2009 6:52:04 PM

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So after aeons, finally the Wildcat was been beaten in the discipline most ugly plane ever been used in a game...

Hail to the new King

I admit it looks pregnant...and seems to have the door off an outhouse...but................

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RE: Admiral's Edition Air War Thread - 2/27/2009 5:31:09 AM

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Sorry to harp on the Tabby, but unless I'm mistaken, it was produced in pretty significant numbers well before 1944. And it certainly was in use by the IJN before then.

The U.S. Strategic Bomber Survey reported that Showa Airplane Co. produced 416 Tabbies, 201 Vals, and one George -- and had overall capacity to produce about 881 aircraft total. Tabby production began in earnest in 1941, with 22 produced that year; it rose to 87 in 1942; dipped to 61 in 1943 (because, the report says, government planning was "poorly organized"); rose to 157 in 1944; and dropped to 87 in 1945 (thanks to strategic bombing). The plant had the capacity to produce 25 in 1941, 177 in 1942, 177 in 1943, 193 in 1944, and 113 in 1945. A photocopy of the USSBS report can be found here -- it's really interesting reading in its own right:

http://ia310837.us.archive.org/0/items/corporationrepor27unit/corporationrepor27unit.pdf

Links to other formats of the report here:

http://www.archive.org/details/corporationrepor27unit

Maybe I'm mistaken, but I don't think AE should wait until 1944 to let the player produce the Tabby. It should be available from game start, and in significant numbers from 1942 on.

In case the above links don't work, here's Appendix F to the report, on page 8:

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RE: Admiral's Edition Air War Thread - 2/27/2009 5:46:47 AM

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Moreover, Mitsui and Nakajima also produced aircraft based on the DC-3, though I'm not entirely clear on whether these were all "Tabbies" as they appear in WITP. Check out http://www.dc3history.org/dc3.htm. (Incidentally, the USSBS report says Mitsui eventually acquired Showa in 1945.)

Some cool photos of the Tabby here, some with Japanese captions: http://www.douglasdc3.com/japl2d/japl2d.htm

Nor were all these Tabbies reserved for civilian service. The USSBS report seems to indicate the government ordered them for the Navy. Certainly some Tabbies were in military service before 1944. This book mentions a B-24 shooting down a Tabby in August 1943 near Celebes. I think the same incident is memorialized by a cool photo at the bottom of this page. Here it is: